League of Ireland in Europe 2014

[ger121]

And a team that I would be fairly confident would beat most, if not all, the LOI teams at the mom (perhaps Dundalk would give them a game)

Steady on there. No doubt they've improved over the years and have some ok results when it comes to the EL qualifying rounds but they've been knocked out in the 1st and 2nd qualifying rounds the last 2 years. I'd hardly say that means they'd "beat most if not all" LOI teams.

[Longfordian]

They're sound lads out there, the people at FC Vaduz I'll say that much. Or those that were there in 2004 were anyway. Shame we made a balls of it on the field mind you. Moving swiftly along..

[bennocelt]

Steady on there. No doubt they've improved over the years and have some ok results when it comes to the EL qualifying rounds but they've been knocked out in the 1st and 2nd qualifying rounds the last 2 years. I'd hardly say that means they'd "beat most if not all" LOI teams.

We are in the 40s for a reason

[ger121]

We are in the 40s for a reason

We are 40 they are 38. Nothing in it. Decent side sure but expected to beat most if not all LOI sides? Bit of an exaggeration there.

[bennocelt]

We are 40 they are 38. Nothing in it. Decent side sure but expected to beat most if not all LOI sides? Bit of an exaggeration there.

No way, they play in the Swiss league, and have improved a lot because of it.

[Dodge]

What do you mean unproved because of playing in the Swiss League? They've always played there

I'll say again though, they're of no relevance to the standard of LOI teams

[bennocelt]

Sorry meant top division. Swiss football is in top ten at moment, or there abouts
Have you not followed the thread, thats where we are at the moment!

[pineapple stu]

This is only their second ever season in the top flight. They got relegated the only other time - six years ago - and are second last now. They can't have improved that much.

The Swiss league ranking is largely due to FC Basel, who are way ahead of the rest of that league.

The Liechtenstein coefficient would be a lot lower if - like us - they had their lower teams counting for points.

There are lots of reasons why it makes no sense to compare or worry about the two coefficients.

[bennocelt]

This is only their second ever season in the top flight. They got relegated the only other time - six years ago - and are second last now. They can't have improved that much.

The Swiss league ranking is largely due to FC Basel, who are way ahead of the rest of that league.

The Liechtenstein coefficient would be a lot lower if - like us - they had their lower teams counting for points.

There are lots of reasons why it makes no sense to compare or worry about the two coefficients.

I'm not worried, just to to reply to some that think Vaduz would be an easy pushover when I dont think they would, and if you want to go back to some recent evidence look at Longford.

FC Zurich and Young Boys are doing relatively decent in Europe this season tbf. Last season Basel just about won the league.

The point is that LOI teams shouldn't be pointing their noses down at any teams in Europe, the LOI isnt a great league. And I am a LOI fan!

[pineapple stu]

Vaduz wouldn't be a pushover alright. I don't doubt that. If nothing else, they're not really a reflection of Liechtenstein football as they can sign anyone anyway.

FCB have won five leagues in a row now and are the ones mainly racking up coefficient points (like this season for example). I know there's some other solid teams, but I don't think it really reflects on vaduz that the league they play in is 11th in Europe.

[bennocelt]

Vaduz wouldn't be a pushover alright. I don't doubt that. If nothing else, they're not really a reflection of Liechtenstein football as they can sign anyone anyway.

FCB have won five leagues in a row now and are the ones mainly racking up coefficient points (like this season for example). I know there's some other solid teams, but I don't think it really reflects on vaduz that the league they play in is 11th in Europe.

Actually Young Boys got more co efficient points so far this season:), but i get ur point

[pineapple stu]

Nope, Basel have more points - they got bonus points for getting byes effectively
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/tcoef2015.html

[bennocelt]

no, i dont think so............
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/ccoef2015.html

[pineapple stu]

Wait - that's the same website. How's it disagreeing?

Edit - Ah, team coefficients don't include anything for qualifying rounds of course.

[Dodge]

Edit - Ah, team coefficients don't include anything for qualifying rounds of course.

They do if they don't reach the group stages.

[Nesta99]

Most appropriate place for this considering the discussin on standards.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish/2014/1209/665675-kenny-hails-current-crop-of-league-players/

[Charlie Darwin]

And a team that I would be fairly confident would beat most, if not all, the LOI teams at the mom (perhaps Dundalk would give them a game)
Ah come on. A side that have never won consecutive ties in the Europa League despite entering in the first round (most LOI teams don't).

[Dodge]

entering in the first round (most LOI teams don't).

They do now.

[bennocelt]

Ah come on. A side that have never won consecutive ties in the Europa League despite entering in the first round (most LOI teams don't).

And still unbeaten against LOI teams:)

[Dodge]

And still unbeaten against LOI teams:)

Pats are unbeaten against Russian sides so I fully back your line of argument here

[pineapple stu]

It looks like that Shamrock Rovers title of the 'Worst Europa League Group Stage Team in a single season' is perhaps coming to an end. Rovers achieved 0-0-6, GD 4-19 (-15). At the moment, Slovan Bratislava have a record 0-0-5, GD 1-17 (-16). Slovan only have to travel to Italy to face Napoli, who have to win to top their group, so maybe some hope for Rovers fans. :D
Slovan 2-0 down inside 20 minutes

[ger121]

Slovan 2-0 down inside 20 minutes

Still are,with less than 20 to go.

[ger121]

3 nil now. That's one title Rovers will be happy to pass on.

[Professor K]

Metalist also lost all 6 of their group games so they're the only three teams to do it.