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Charlie Darwin
23/03/2014, 3:03 AM
Even allowing for that Charlie, think we'd both agree RTE games on Sat/Sun are killing attendance figures.
Yeah, definitely, especially with Liverpool being on telly at 3. Still, I think if RTE committed to having a 3pm Saturday game every week people would adjust. It's the uncertainty that screws with attendances the most. If the FAI and RTE knocked their heads together and scheduled two months in advance, we wouldn't have these problems.

Charlie Darwin
23/03/2014, 3:04 AM
Was that the BH Monday early KO that finished 0-0? Was diabolical.
Yeah, Derek Foran got sent off for 15 late tackles in the first 15 minutes.

Longfordian
23/03/2014, 11:17 AM
Shed Invincibles are boycotting Richmond as far as I know. The only fans you could hear singing at the game were the 100 or so Limerick fans.
Why's that out of curiosity?

nigel-harps1954
23/03/2014, 11:33 AM
Why's that out of curiosity?

Seats removed from their section or something.

PartySaint
23/03/2014, 5:11 PM
They aren't boycotting Richmond they're just not going into their usual section until it's all fully open again.

Crap crowd there yesterday but it's what I expected.

Our next 3 home games are Dundalk and Rovers in the league and Sligo in the Setanta so that should see good crowds in Richmond.

sadloserkid
23/03/2014, 5:26 PM
Crap crowd there yesterday but it's what I expected.

Any figure given? Nothing on extratime and I found it hard to make a proper estimate at the time.

PartySaint
23/03/2014, 5:33 PM
Any figure given? Nothing on extratime and I found it hard to make a proper estimate at the time.

None given for the second week in a row now.

nigel-harps1954
23/03/2014, 8:21 PM
Couldn't have been much more than 800-900 from looking at the tv.

nigel-harps1954
23/03/2014, 8:26 PM
Premier Division:

Cork v Bray - 2,750
Drogs v Derry - 1,023
UCD v Athlone - 203
Sligo v Dundalk - 1,763

Bohs v Rovers - 4,000?
St. Pat's v Limerick - 900?

First Division:

Galway v Shamrock Rovers B - 1,027
Shels v Waterford - 762

Harps v Cobh - 400?
Wexford v Longford - 180?

redobit
24/03/2014, 11:13 AM
1,763 at Sligo v Dlk.

I was a bit surprised when that figure was given out. The main stand was 90% full and holds 1800. And there was at least another 500 around the ground, including a couple of hundred from Dundalk. I would have thought over 2000, not that that's anything great either.

White Horse
24/03/2014, 11:23 AM
I was a bit surprised when that figure was given out. The main stand was 90% full and holds 1800. And there was at least another 500 around the ground, including a couple of hundred from Dundalk. I would have thought over 2000, not that that's anything great either.

The main stand looked pretty full to me too.

Yossarian
24/03/2014, 11:49 AM
I was a bit surprised when that figure was given out. The main stand was 90% full and holds 1800. And there was at least another 500 around the ground, including a couple of hundred from Dundalk. I would have thought over 2000, not that that's anything great either.

Maybe the Sligo fans had the same attitude as Peers and Djilali on commentary and thought it was just a matter of the team walking onto the pitch to get a handy 3 points.

avvenalaf
24/03/2014, 12:49 PM
The main stand looked pretty full to me too.

Defo something wrong here. No way was there 1000 less than at the Athlone match. I'd have said 2200.

CuanaD
24/03/2014, 5:22 PM
I think if RTE committed to having a 3pm Saturday game every week people would adjust. It's the uncertainty that screws with attendances the most. If the FAI and RTE knocked their heads together and scheduled two months in advance, we wouldn't have these problems.
Totally agree with you Charlie - a reasonable amount of forward planning & trying to stick to a regular slot for the live games would make a huge difference.

It's still not long since we were lucky to get two live games in a season (including the Cup final) & I'm certain that any TV is better than none (from a point of view of promoting to non-LOI fans), but if we could have a regular weekly live game in a regular time-slot that will add to the increase in interest in the league over time.

nigel-harps1954
25/03/2014, 10:17 PM
Premier Division:

Cork v Bray - 2,750
Drogs v Derry - 1,023
UCD v Athlone - 203
Sligo v Dundalk - 1,763
Bohs v Rovers - 3,403

St. Pat's v Limerick - 900-1000?

First Division:

Galway v Shamrock Rovers B - 1,027
Shels v Waterford - 762
Harps v Cobh - 451

Wexford v Longford - 180?

nigel-harps1954
25/03/2014, 10:34 PM
Week 3:

PREMIER DIVISION

Athlone - 1,793 (754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Bohs - 2,530 (1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 600 (891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 4,036 (1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 1,100 (1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 1,515 (817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 1,654 (1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Limerick - 1,307 (1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Pat's - 1,250 (1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 3,510 (2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 2,182 (2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
UCD - 544 (487; 506; 558; 610; 272 FD)

FIRST DIVISION


Cobh - 400 (439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Harps - 637 (479; 429; 433; 644; 480) -
Galway - 1,723 (No previous)
Longford - 600 (379; 365; 315; 230; 260)
Rovers B - 260 (No previous)
Shels - 765 (1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
Waterford - 610 (478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 196 (227; 302; 216; 343; 494)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,893 (1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 709 (391; 372; 578; 682; 417)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,420 (1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)

OVERALL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 12,562

OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 8,509
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 34,077

OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 42,586

Charlie Darwin
25/03/2014, 10:46 PM
Even allowing for the fact they've had UCD and Limerick, neither of whom would bring lots of fans, that is a seriously poor stat for Pats.

edit: I know it's a different club, but would it not be worth putting in GUFC's attendance in the history for Galway?

ger121
25/03/2014, 10:50 PM
Premier Division:

Cork v Bray - 2,750
Drogs v Derry - 1,023
UCD v Athlone - 203
Sligo v Dundalk - 1,763
Bohs v Rovers - 3,403


Where did the Bohs figure come from Nigel? Looks official but a little on the low side. The official capacity this season is over 4000 so hard to believe there were 600-700 empty seats in the ground. I wonder if the kids go free scheme was counted towards total attendance.

Charlie Darwin
25/03/2014, 10:55 PM
Where did the Bohs figure come from Nigel? Looks official but a little on the low side. The official capacity this season is over 4000 so hard to believe there were 600-700 empty seats in the ground. I wonder if the kids go free scheme was counted towards total attendance.
It's the attendance on Extra Time but I don't know where they got it. There was no attendance announced at the match that I heard. The Rovers section was cut off to a point, so I'd take 300 off the capacity attendance for that, but I'd say the Jodi was oversold too so it's still going to be at least 3.700.

nigel-harps1954
25/03/2014, 11:38 PM
4,227 is the capacity of Dalymount currently according to Google. I'd assume the official attendance given is minus season ticket holders, and as Charlie said above, and was clear in a few pictures, there was quite a number of seats blocked off in the Des kelly stand.

Also, I would add in GUFC stats if I felt them necessary, but since it's a completely new club, I don't think it would make much sense. There'd be as much use putting in Mervue or Salthill attendance stats as GUFC.

Charlie Darwin
26/03/2014, 12:02 AM
4,227 is the capacity of Dalymount currently according to Google. I'd assume the official attendance given is minus season ticket holders, and as Charlie said above, and was clear in a few pictures, there was quite a number of seats blocked off in the Des kelly stand.

Also, I would add in GUFC stats if I felt them necessary, but since it's a completely new club, I don't think it would make much sense. There'd be as much use putting in Mervue or Salthill attendance stats as GUFC.
It's only marginally more a new club than Cork or Derry were. 90%+ of the people at Galway FC never took in a Mervue or Salthill game in their lives, but a big majority were Galway United fans. It's basically a merger of Galway United with two local clubs and I think it would be appropriate to recognise that, although I think you're entitled to make the final decision of course.

nigel-harps1954
26/03/2014, 1:11 AM
Point taken, but I don't feel in this instance, that it would be fair. If there is enough people who think it's worth it, I'll add them in, but I personally don't think it should be included.

Dalymountrower
26/03/2014, 8:28 AM
4,227 is the capacity of Dalymount currently according to Google. I'd assume the official attendance given is minus season ticket holders, and as Charlie said above, and was clear in a few pictures, there was quite a number of seats blocked off in the Des kelly stand.

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4,000 was the figure given for the crowd at the equivalent fixture last year ( which I thought was 3-400 too high). The crowd last Friday was significantly bigger. Take 400 empty seats off the Des Kelly and add in the approx 200 extra in the oversold Jodi . ( I walked through the main gate of the stand with a lot of other members without being recorded when that gate was opened to relieve the congestion in Dalymount lane)

PartySaint
26/03/2014, 10:22 AM
Even allowing for the fact they've had UCD and Limerick, neither of whom would bring lots of fans, that is a seriously poor stat for Pats.



Yeah very poor start, the Limerick game being on TV on Saturday at quarter past 3 didn't help but still a shocking crowd.

Our next 2 home league games are Dundalk and Rovers so we should see a significant rise in our figures.

We've now played 5 competitive home games already this season, in 3 different competitions.

Dodge
26/03/2014, 10:32 AM
We've now played 5 competitive home games already this season, in 3 different competitions.

5 games on 5 different days too

nigel-harps1954
26/03/2014, 11:38 AM
4,000 was the figure given for the crowd at the equivalent fixture last year ( which I thought was 3-400 too high). The crowd last Friday was significantly bigger. Take 400 empty seats off the Des Kelly and add in the approx 200 extra in the oversold Jodi . ( I walked through the main gate of the stand with a lot of other members without being recorded when that gate was opened to relieve the congestion in Dalymount lane)


Well, my friend, you just answered your own question.
I can only go with an official attendance given.

sadloserkid
26/03/2014, 12:28 PM
Point taken, but I don't feel in this instance, that it would be fair. If there is enough people who think it's worth it, I'll add them in, but I personally don't think it should be included.

I'd agree with Nigel for what it's worth. Think the two year hiatus makes it a little different to Cork/Derry/Limerick/whoever else.

dundalkfc10
26/03/2014, 4:11 PM
Yeah very poor start, the Limerick game being on TV on Saturday at quarter past 3 didn't help but still a shocking crowd.

Our next 2 home league games are Dundalk and Rovers so we should see a significant rise in our figures.

We've now played 5 competitive home games already this season, in 3 different competitions.

Our games at 7.05, why cant RTE just put the f***ing live game at 7.45 and not bring it forward on a Friday evening? Doubt we will bring too many 300 tops id say

ForzaForth
26/03/2014, 6:03 PM
Attendance at Wexford Youths v Longford was 182.

oriel
27/03/2014, 12:16 PM
Our games at 7.05, why cant RTE just put the f***ing live game at 7.45 and not bring it forward on a Friday evening? Doubt we will bring too many 300 tops id say

While it wont be the 1,000 + we took last season Id say we will take a little more than 300, there are a lot of Dlk fans working in Dub, and its just cross city for them, but its certainly not a great time for the majority travelling down the M1. Even 7.35 would have made a difference.

vinnie
27/03/2014, 1:04 PM
Our games at 7.05, why cant RTE just put the f***ing live game at 7.45 and not bring it forward on a Friday evening? Doubt we will bring too many 300 tops id say

It's a load of Bollíx, our game with Sligo is the same this week, how the fuk do they expect the Sligo lads to get down for that

PartySaint
27/03/2014, 1:09 PM
While it wont be the 1,000 + we took last season Id say we will take a little more than 300, there are a lot of Dlk fans working in Dub, and its just cross city for them, but its certainly not a great time for the majority travelling down the M1. Even 7.35 would have made a difference.

Yeah it's a bit of a nightmare for travelling fans but anyone that finishes work/college/school at 5 should be able to make the game, any time after that and you would struggle tho.

I still expect a decent Dundalk crowd.

Dodge
27/03/2014, 1:14 PM
Yeah it's a bit of a nightmare for travelling fans but anyone that finishes work/college/school at 5 should be able to make the game, any time after that and you would struggle tho.


Even for home fans. If you finish work at 5.30 it probably takes more than 90 minutes to get home, get something to eat, and then back out to the game. It won't affect hardcore fans but it's tough for casual fans so crowds are alays lower with that 40 minute difference

nigel-harps1954
28/03/2014, 1:23 PM
Extratime reported an attendance of 845 at Richmond last weekend.

Dodge
28/03/2014, 1:34 PM
Extratime reported an attendance of 845 at Richmond last weekend.
I read 1,200 elsewhere. I'd have guessed 1,100 myself

Bray Head
28/03/2014, 1:49 PM
I'm always amazed at Extratime estimates for attendances as most press boxes are in the Main Stand and it's impossible to guess an attendance unless you can see all of the crowd. Their estimates are usually well off the actual attendances either too high or too low.

nigel-harps1954
28/03/2014, 2:01 PM
Apparently 845 was the official attendance.

wonder88
28/03/2014, 8:31 PM
2114 at Oriel for visit of Bohs, you would expect maybe 300-400 more?

NeverFeltBetter
28/03/2014, 8:46 PM
855 at Thomond.

SkStu
28/03/2014, 8:48 PM
855 at Thomond.

and not a sparks between them...

White Horse
28/03/2014, 9:37 PM
2114 at Oriel for visit of Bohs, you would expect maybe 300-400 more?

I thought there was 300-400 more there.

wonder88
28/03/2014, 9:45 PM
How is Horgan doing for ye White Horse?

pineapple stu
28/03/2014, 9:48 PM
About 500 at Bray v UCD

White Horse
28/03/2014, 9:53 PM
How is Horgan doing for ye White Horse?

He is very eager to get involved and comes too deep looking for the ball. He's playing in areas where he cannot damage the opposition. Needs to calm down and be more patient.

Grey Boy
29/03/2014, 6:56 AM
About 500 at Bray v UCD
Thought it might have been a bit closer to 600. The stand was certainly more than half full. Would probably settle on 550 though.

Grey Boy
29/03/2014, 6:59 AM
I'm always amazed at Extratime estimates for attendances as most press boxes are in the Main Stand and it's impossible to guess an attendance unless you can see all of the crowd. Their estimates are usually well off the actual attendances either too high or too low.

Really can't understand why the club can't/don't give attendances to put this to bed once and for all. The figure given for the Sligo game there and on here has already screwed up the real average attendance figure.

Ezeikial
29/03/2014, 10:05 AM
The figure given for the Sligo game there and on here has already screwed up the real average attendance figure.

Spoken like a true statistician.

I can feel your pain

oriel
29/03/2014, 12:01 PM
2114 at Oriel for visit of Bohs, you would expect maybe 300-400 more?

I don't know, thought it was a decent crowd, and was actually 300 or so up from the last Bohs game at home in July, wasn't the best of nights, think Bohs had 150 or so up, pleasing to see it over 2k.

trevy
29/03/2014, 12:14 PM
743 at Waterford United v Wexford Youths. Good crowd by our standards.

Town Legend
29/03/2014, 12:33 PM
690 at Athlone v Cork according to Extratime.