Tipp South & District League 2011/12

[republican]

stelling just on dundrums pitch you will find alot worse pitches in div 1 of the tsdl let alone the whole league it is a better field than at least 3 or four in div 1.

[Pearoso27]

Saints won 7 nil today Richie Ryan 2 Chalky 2 Jimmy Carr 2 and Breeno 1. That result from Clonmel is true Town were beatin 3 2 by Dundrum mad stuff. Game was switched to Clonmel as Dundrum pitch was unplayable!

[footballfanatic]

Holy god, that is some shock and in clonmel and all, holy holy god.

[balls]

poor result for town but they are a team in transition as said earlier. i too remember the sarsfield rovers result against saints and todays town result very similar to that. best thing town can do now is forget about it with huge derby match next sunday and concentrate on that. Its going to be a strange tipp cup with town,cashel and celtic all out already and either saints or peake going to be gone in the 2nd round as they play next. Great chance for one of the lower division sides to get a run going and maybe make final

[hooper74]

I always get a great kick out of this "in transition" thing whenever a big team loses,when do Manchester United for example go through a transition,there is no such thing,the players that left Town that had won all the medals Barnes,Smurf,Clery,Comerford,Stephen Ryan were all only 27,28 which is very young in junior football,Town and Saints should be competing at the business end of all the cups and anytime there not its FAILURE not transition,transition is an excuse branded about by people who do not understand or simply never played at a top club,you wont hear Tony Scully or Paul Scully tell you "ah were in transition" after a defeat

[balls]

Town had only 3 or 4 regulars in there team today. if saints lost 7 or 8 of there squad they would be in transition too.
town are a great club and im sure this is only a minor blip and they will be back. failure is not a word i would assocciate with a great club like Clonmel Town.
One could say failure would be Saint Michaels over past 7 or 8 years with no league or fai if you are going to be so black and white on what is success and failure . big teams do have off days look at pike today nearly knocked out of fai so hooper74 i think your bit harsh with your comment at end of day any team can slip up thats beauty of cup football

[hooper74]

Your not getting what im saying,im not calling either team failures,i am making the point that both clubs set such high standards that they would not hide behind excuses like being in transition,you can be sure Jamie is not looking for excuses,today was obviously just not good enough

[nononsense]

I always get a great kick out of this "in transition" thing whenever a big team loses,when do Manchester United for example go through a transition,there is no such thing,the players that left Town that had won all the medals Barnes,Smurf,Clery,Comerford,Stephen Ryan were all only 27,28 which is very young in junior football,Town and Saints should be competing at the business end of all the cups and anytime there not its FAILURE not transition,transition is an excuse branded about by people who do not understand or simply never played at a top club,you wont hear Tony Scully or Paul Scully tell you "ah were in transition" after a defeat
Harsh and stupid. Results like this happen. I hate when comparisons with Manchester United are made on junior soccer forums. For Gods sake keep it real. Clonmel Town will be hurting but will get over it. Fair dues to Dundrum but its a freak result.

[Chops]

I must say i wasnt at all surprised that Town lost yesterday and i know people will say easy to say that now but the amount of injuries they had plus the tipperary youth team playing and the county minor gaelic trials both on yesterday left Jamie with 24 players he couldnt pick from which would dismantle any team if ye look at there results the B team also took a hiding from Bansha as apparently they were struggling to get a team together for the game aswel. Its a silly situation to have the youth game played on the same day as junior games but that was the waterfords league choice.

[Mission Bell]

If games are not played when there is an available slot you end up with a fixture pile up which renders the whole exercise meaningless.
It's not often I agree with WDJL but on this occasion it would seem that they were left with few options.

[rightboy]

I must say i wasnt at all surprised that Town lost yesterday and i know people will say easy to say that now but the amount of injuries they had plus the tipperary youth team playing and the county minor gaelic trials both on yesterday left Jamie with 24 players he couldnt pick from which would dismantle any team if ye look at there results the B team also took a hiding from Bansha as apparently they were struggling to get a team together for the game aswel. Its a silly situation to have the youth game played on the same day as junior games but that was the waterfords league choice.

No disrespect but town could field 2 teams yesterday 22 players and shud have been too good for dundrum no matter who was on the team ( does anyone have towns team) I do appreciated the injury situation it seems to be bad but saints had it just as bad at the start of the season
Which resulted in our b team getting a few hammering as lads were moved up to cover 1st team
Despite others on this forum saying otherwise town are in transition that's a fact just look at the players that have left / retired last 2 seasons and these players have not been replaced and I think the players that have come in are no where as good as the players they lost which results in a weaker squad and when you get a spate of injuries which all clubs get during a season that's the root of the problem at town , where is the munster youths winning team ? They should be backboning the team

[balls]

munster youth squad havent stepped up is fair to say. Lot of those lads tied up with gaa and with tipp going well at underage level aswell as clubs locally in clonmel having success playing with town doesnt seem top of their priorities. Great result for Peake yesterday you could sense they had a big performance in them have a good solid team put together and should win sunday in the fai. As for celtic, there title ambitions have taken a serious hit going to have to win every game from here on if they are to stand a chance

[republican]

good post there rightboy but the only thing i will say is alot of the town b team squad may have been cup tied with the b team which would enable them to play for 1st's yesterday as it was a cup game. injuries happen to all clubs at all levels and town should still have been too strong for dundrum but thats the romance of the cup. i hope town can get a few back in time for the fai game sunday they have a great tradition in this competition and their season is more or less riding on sundays game. good win for saints again yesterday against a very game wildies surely saints to lose after celtic losing in thurles yesterday.

[SgtBilko]

I was told by a very reliable Town supporter that the Town A team had 2 Youths playing and one on the bench who do not even start for their Youth side, i think that tells it all, they must have been seriously short. Does anyone think Town were entitled to get the game off as a Youth Oscar Traynor match was on and Town have 2/3 Youths in their panel anyway. If Michaels B were entitled to surely Town should have been...

[rightboy]

I was told by a very reliable Town supporter that the Town A team had 2 Youths playing and one on the bench who do not even start for their Youth side, i think that tells it all, they must have been seriously short. Does anyone think Town were entitled to get the game off as a Youth Oscar Traynor match was on and Town have 2/3 Youths in their panel anyway. If Michaels B were entitled to surely Town should have been...

I can understand you been upset about the town result but to bring saints into your point of view is both silly and factually incorrect on the following grounds
A) saints rarely use youths on b team as they are a bit young and yesterday saints had a panel of 16 going to moyglass
B) I think you will find moyglass called game off due to their pitch unplayable , hopefully moyglass lads will confirm this for you
I think your reliable source was taking the pee but it's no harm to nip this in the bud as we don't want to feed the anti saints brigade on this
A) saints rarely use youth

[balls]

when he mentioned michaels b he was on about them getting oldbridge game called off cause of oscar traynor earlier in season. and also having seen saints b teams first 3 games off the season the team was made up off 60% or more youth players cause of lads playing gaa with arravale, oola,bansha etc. so your point is invalid about them not having youths playing junior. and the point made earlier was just that town should have asked tsdl for game off due to town players playing tsdl youths is as valid as saint michaels b getting there game against oldbridge pulled over 1 or 2 players who havent played b team since.
its not an anti saints brigade on this either, as much as ye would like to believe just a few genuine tsdl football fans who are standing up for town when alot of saint fans come out of the woodwork on the monday town suffer one of there worst ever defeats

[rightboy]

Balls if you read my post properly you would have seen I said rarely did saints use youth players on b team I didn't say they never used them and what u said is quiet correct at the start of season saints had a horrendous injury crisis and players were moved up and unfortunately our b team got a hiding or 2 . As for coming out of woodwork if you check back to my first post I made it quiet clear I was a saints supporter and ur last point about about moyglass/ old brigade I apologise not a mind reader I presumed he was talking about yesterday , but I take the points u made but whether u agree or not I'm not on today to bash town

[balls]

no prob rightboy im a neutral not alligned to either town or saints so just keeping ye in line :) :ball: ;). great to see the forum back up and running after a quiet few weeks. Some huge games next weekend so hopefully the banter will continue

[nononsense]

Isn't the Town/Celtic game now taking on more importance. It is unthinkable Town could be out of all cup competition. And Celtic cannot be too happy with their form of late, lucky to beat Tipperary Town and beaten yesterday. Would like to see the betting on this one. As for Nenagh/St.Michaels, I think Saints have their biggest test since last years final. Nenagh are having a tremendous season and are very confident of victory. I think Peake Villa and Bansha will make it through okay.

[balls]

bansha are coming good. have some good young attacking players out there. clodiagh rangers were lucky to beat cashel and galbally in previous rounds. they have a very good keeper clodiagh but if bansha play to potential they may get the win. peake should win aswell, the win last sunday should give them confidence. i fancy town to beat celtic. the loss to dundrum should galvanise town and i expect huge performance out of them.
I agree nenagh are flying but saints should have too much. Jimmy carr, richie ryan and pa quinn have serious pace and will get at least a goal between them and we all know how good saints defence is, so i can see them getting the result maybe after extra time. This will definatly be saints biggest test of season, nenagh if in tsdl this season would prob be leading it with saints in my opinion they have a better team this season than the current clonmel town, celtic, peake villa teams

[republican]

lads there is a big difference in both situations as if im correct the saints b v old bridge was pulled on the sat because of players getting called to oscar traynor on the next day, town must have had an idea early in the week that they were going to be struggling on sunday which would have given them time to request a day off because of their youths playin oscar traynor. they also could have said complex was unplayable when dundrum contacted them about the switch if they were struggling that bad. agree saints have a severe test on sunday nenagh are flying high and are fancying their chances of winning this tie saints will have to be on the top of their game to pass this test.

[celticlads]

nenagh are going well but i dont think they have been tested yet. i actually think saints will win this quiet comfortably maybe 3 or 4-1. with the attacking force saints have i feel they will be just too strong. have clonmel town any hope this sunday. last few weeks seem to be poor just wondering can they turn it around.

[balls]

on a side note to the big fai games this weekend, great to see so many new refs this season in the tsdl and there performing well in the lower divisions. good for the league hopefully they stick at it, gain the experience and progress up to do bigger games.

[SgtBilko]

hey rightboy im a cashelman just for the record..

[Roberto]

hey rightboy im a cashelman just for the record..


If you're a Cashelman why do you spend so much time on here talking about Clonmel Town. Why not focus on your home town team and give them a bit of support??

[Pearoso27]

SgtBilko is from Cashel talkin up Town and Rightboy is from Thurles talkin up Saints. Its a divided land we live in!

[Chops]

W
No disrespect but town could field 2 teams yesterday 22 players and shud have been too good for dundrum no matter who was on the team ( does anyone have towns team) I do appreciated the injury situation it seems to be bad but saints had it just as bad at the start of the season
Which resulted in our b team getting a few hammering as lads were moved up to cover 1st team
Despite others on this forum saying otherwise town are in transition that's a fact just look at the players that have left / retired last 2 seasons and these players have not been replaced and I think the players that have come in are no where as good as the players they lost which results in a weaker squad and when you get a spate of injuries which all clubs get during a season that's the root of the problem at town , where is the munster youths winning team ? They should be backboning the teamWhile i respect your comments i dont think you should be saying that Town should of beat Dundrum with whatever team they had out first of all you know nothing about the players that had to play with some been as young as 16 which faced against any adult would find it difficult....one point i do agree with you on is the munster youths team should be the backbone of the team now but unfortunately for reasons only the players can answer not many of them are playing football anymore for one reason or another.Gaa has a big say in Clonmel and with many of the young lads been successful they seem to be turning to Gaa.Come the European Championships in the summer you could see a big turn around again with more coming back to soccer if the Irish team can have any bit of success however as long as the lads are been successful in gaa its only going to get tougher for Clonmel Town.

[Chops]

I would also like to say well done to Dundrum last sunday they capitalised on Towns misfortunes and have not got the credit they deserve.Its easy to knock Town for losing but as a Town fan this is what cup football is all about and everyone at the club would wish Dundrum the best of luck in the next round and lets hope for a few more upsets along the way.

[rightboy]

Chops if you had read my earlier post I did ask ( what was the town team) ? I still stand by my point that town just like saints Celtic villa etc shud be beating lower division teams but as you say that's cup football also others in this forum were calling for heads to roll which I was totally against as for your point about 16 year old s playing I agree 100% it shud nt happen but it was just one if those days for town we all have had them and I would but my house on there being a massive reaction from town against celtic next weekend , what a game to have when you come of a defeat like last week

[cufc champions]

WWhile i respect your comments i dont think you should be saying that Town should of beat Dundrum with whatever team they had out first of all you know nothing about the players that had to play with some been as young as 16 which faced against any adult would find it difficult....one point i do agree with you on is the munster youths team should be the backbone of the team now but unfortunately for reasons only the players can answer not many of them are playing football anymore for one reason or another.Gaa has a big say in Clonmel and with many of the young lads been successful they seem to be turning to Gaa.Come the European Championships in the summer you could see a big turn around again with more coming back to soccer if the Irish team can have any bit of success however as long as the lads are been successful in gaa its only going to get tougher for Clonmel Town.

I don't think the European Championships will sway 18 or 19 year olds away from Football. It may have an effect on kids but not bonafide adults.

[SgtBilko]

Roberto i have great admiration for the club and one of my good mates played for them for years, i continue to work for my own club, ye just sort out your own club with your dicipline issues and ye will be fine

[Roberto]

Roberto i have great admiration for the club and one of my good mates played for them for years, i continue to work for my own club, ye just sort out your own club with your dicipline issues and ye will be fine

I assume you mean discipline and what issues are you referring to?

[SgtBilko]

managers encroaching playing pitches and assaults in schoolboy matches etc etc

[Roberto]

managers encroaching playing pitches and assaults in schoolboy matches etc etc

I note you use the plural of the word assaults, what other ones are you referring to apart from that unsavourary incident at a recent schoolboy game when one of our players assaulted a Bansha player? To be honest I am reluctant to discuss schoolboy matters as you're talking about children but you don't seem to have an issue with that. Suffice to say Clonmel Celtic have up to 100 kids registered with the club and for you to say the club has a discipline problem because of the actions of one child, who hugely regretted what he did and has been punished for same, is fairly pathetic on your part.

As for managers enroaching playing pitches. Perhaps you might ask your buddy who played for Clonmel Town about an incident a few years back where a Clonmel Town official ran onto the pitch and struck a St Martins player. I think before you start tapping away on the keyboard you should give the subject matter some thought. Clonmel Celtic's discipline is no better or worse than any other club in the league. If it was a problem the TSDL would have brought it to the club's attention a long time ago. If you want to make some snide remarks about a club come up with some proper evidence.

[nononsense]

TSDL youths beat West Waterford/East Cork youths 11-0 at Cappoquin to-day.

[balls]

11-0, should be blown up in fairness for it got to that stage. WWEC must be poor, ud imagine they could pull a competitive 11 together when you have the pick of a couple of clubs in a league. Football can be a cruel game though so maybe just a bad day at the office.

How do you see the big games going tomoro nononsense??

[celticlads]

saints and celtic double

[footballfanatic]

Reckon celtic will beat clonmel town, michaels will beat nenagh easy, peake villa win and the bansha game to go to penos with clodiagh winning.

[balls]

il go town, michaels,peake and bansha.
oldbridge vs moyglass in paddy purtill should be cracking cup tie aswell fancy the bridge to win that 1

[nononsense]

Tipperary Cup result to-night- St.Michaels 'B' 3, St.Nicholas 3 after extra time. Went to sudden death penalties, a lot of penalties missed and saved, St.Nicholas won the shoot-out 3-2.

[footballfanatic]

Sounds like a cracker, that will be nice braggin rights in tipp town tonight.

anyone tell me have michaels a full squad for tomorrow, is rafter fit after recent injury? im thinkin of lumpin on. PM if ye like so not to give away team!

[rightboy]

Not really much bragging between saints and St nicks not that kind of rivalry good game though in windy conditions .Any predictions for today
Villa 4/5 nil
Bansha 2/1
Town 2/1
Saints aet 2/1 maybe peno s

Il probably way out but just a bit of fun to get day going it's a pity saints game clashing because I think we will have one of the best games in a long time at the complex would be worth seeing

[Redman028]

Clonmel Town 1 Clonmel celtic 5 F.T

[complexman]

Was at the game- well done to Clonmel Celtic, no complaints- they deserved their victory. Clonmel Town are in a mess.

[nononsense]

Was at the game- well done to Clonmel Celtic, no complaints- they deserved their victory. Clonmel Town are in a mess.
Clonmel Town out of every cup in November. Where did it all go wrong?

[SgtBilko]

surely management must be under serious pressure in there to resign, seems the team are in some turmoil

[footballfanatic]

Maybe clonmel towns defeat to dundrum the other week wasnt as much of a shock after all......

[celticlads]

will there be any eixts from the complex in the transfer window lads

[Redman028]

Was at the game- well done to Clonmel Celtic, no complaints- they deserved their victory. Clonmel Town are in a mess.

Couldnt agree more

[nononsense]

will there be any eixts from the complex in the transfer window lads
Do you anticipate Jimmy Hynes returning to ye? Will he continue to travel from Nenagh with just league games to play in?