Tipp South & District League 2011/12

[cufc champions]

Alot of Leagues inculding Waterford went to u17 and u19 leagues this year to cope with the date change. Why didn't the TSDL??

[bishbash]

The re alinement of the ages at under age level all players skipping year (ie last season's U15's now U17) has meant all U17's from last year can not play youths this year as they are now U19. It is not just Celtic who are in danger of not getting a youth team together this season. This could take 2 season's to sort out. As well young lads are just not there and when they get to 17 soccer comes low down on the list of things to do at the weekend!!
That is exactly the problem. Celtic went from what would have been a pretty strong u19 team to not having enough players to field a team. The club is more a victim of circumstance than actually makin a decision of getting rid of a youth team themselves.

[West Hammer]

All the clubs sat in a room with TSDL an only 3 wanted U19 and no one spoke up for U17,s as they would have to use some U16's to make up teams and U17's would have been playing every Sat so would not work. By the end of the meeting all but 1 wanted to try to get U18 Teams together. The U19 thing is only a one of and all Leagues must go back to U18 next season so it was felt TSDL teams might as sort it out now.

[nononsense]

Well said West Hammer - that is exactly what happened at that meeting. No doubt this year of transition on the age has proved unfortunate for some clubs (it is happening in other jurisdictions also). We are talking about a difficult age group but surely in a town with the population of Clonmel there is more than sixteen youths playing the game. With Clonmel Celtic gone from the first division this means there is only four teams competing. I also heard Donohill and Bansha couldn't muster enough youth players so they have amalgamated. This means the second division has just five teams.

[Unitedno20]

Saints v peake on Friday night at 7 it's a tough ask for both clubs to play friday, Sunday and saints are playin Celtic midweek


Talking to a villa player tonight and he said that as far as he knows there not playing saints on fri, they got a text today about training fri night.

[ponyobrien]

Talking to a villa player tonight and he said that as far as he knows there not playing saints on fri, they got a text today about training fri night.

According to fixture page on TSDL site the game is on this Friday.
http://www.tsdl.ie/fixtures/?FixID=1136

Friday 19/08/2011

Clonmel Credit Union Premier League at 7

St. Michael's v Peake Villa

[rightboy]

Just heard peake refusing to play and won't fufill fixture so not sure what happening as fixture is fixed it will be interesting to see how the tsdl deal with it

[SgtBilko]

Town assistant manager John McLean and Mike Comerford on there way back to Town, breaking news........

[saintsfan]

Just heard peake refusing to play and won't fufill fixture so not sure what happening as fixture is fixed it will be interesting to see how the tsdl deal with it

Game is off as far as I know. The fairest thing would be to give Saints the 3 points. That is Peake's 2nd time trying to cancel the fixture. Saints are ready, willing and able to play this fixture tonight. Fixture on their website, Peake aren't supposed to be able to field a team. It's not a St. Michael's Problem to sort, it's the TSDL problem. bit early in the season for teams to be acting up.

[Preds]

Good to see that things were sorted out in Town and the two lads are coming back.

Saintsfan the game was called off the first time round due to circumstances outside of anybody’s control so I don’t think you can blame peake for that. They are dead right not to play the game tonight. What they are being asked to do is nothing short of a disgrace. It’s similar to what went on with the Joe Delaney cup final and Town refusing to play it common sense needs to prevail in situations like this.

[saintsfan]

Good to see that things were sorted out in Town and the two lads are coming back.

Saintsfan the game was called off the first time round due to circumstances outside of anybody’s control so I don’t think you can blame peake for that. They are dead right not to play the game tonight. What they are being asked to do is nothing short of a disgrace. It’s similar to what went on with the Joe Delaney cup final and Town refusing to play it common sense needs to prevail in situations like this.

I'm not saying anything about why it was called off the 1st time. I want to make that clear - No one disputes a game being called off because of a Bereavement in a Club. All I am saying is that the TSDL re-fixed this fixture for tonight, Saints are willing to play even though they have another game on Sunday. As someone else mentioned above, it won't do anybody any harm - game tonight and then another one on Sunday. Like I said, it's a TSDL problem to fix - not either team involved.

[theboywonder8]

Riduclous to aks teams to play on Friday night and again Sunday and I presume midweek of next week as well,whether teams are willing to play or not,if tsdl insist on fixture and peake refuse to play then there will only be one outcome and that will go only one way.and it won't be peakes.

[Preds]

In my opinion there was no need to fix this game for tonight, it’s not as if we are near the end of the season and there is a back log of fixtures that it needed to be re-fixed for 40 hrs before another massive game. As I said yesterday players need time to get off work and 3 days notice is not enough for any game at any level of football. It’s an 8 team league and as we seen last year some teams were finished in February surely you would have taught the fixture secretary would have learned something from this.

[nononsense]

Rumoured Clonmel Celtic have no youths team this season. They won three trophies last season. Thought they had a good underage setup. Pity to see such a big town with just one youth team.

Is there any youths playing soccer anymore? Hot on the heals of Clonmel Celtic pulling out of youth football, now rumoured Cashel Town have no youths team. This means just 4 teams in each division. Is soccer losing out to GAA, rugby, modern technology gadgets, girls, booze - what is it?

[rightboy]

No nonsense I don't think it's a case of soccer losing out to other codes I'm involved with a gaa club and we had to join up with another club at minor / 16 and it's just not us other clubs in the county are joining up also rugby changed their age groups last year and the knock on effect was staggering wher you had 115/16 playing u19 crazy stuff. I do think though the real reasons are more to do with their social lives and our greater society in general

[Chops]

From a neutral point of view I would have to agree with Roberto, Sgtbilko’s comments about Celtic over the past number of weeks some of them have been disrespectful to the club. He might need to look at things in his own club before he goes throwing around nasty little comments about others. I have said it before about stuff like this being posted on this site it’s not on. We are all on here because of our love of football so let’s try and cut out all this bitching and sniping at clubs and players and concentrate on real football matters.

I sincerely hope Celtic will have a youth’s team this season as it would be a big step backwards for the club in my opinion.

This Saints v Villa game on Friday has to be the biggest joke of a fixture I have ever seen, both teams are then expected to take to the field within 40 hrs of this game finishing and play in two massive games. It’s not as if we are at the end of the season and games need to be played. This is junior football and giving players 2 days notice for a game is not enough time especially when players have to get off work which is not fair to ask any player who has a job in this current economic climate.To be fair Bilkos remarks are nothing compared to the remarks the Celtic players and supporters used on Facebook about Town after the game the other night it was nothing short of disgraceful what some of them were saying and this was after beating Town,at least Clonmel Town would never stoop so low as some of them did the other night anybody that wants to check it out just visit Paddy O Donnells page on Facebook and he wasnt the only one at it.

[Chops]

Your spot on Preds theres plenty of time to re arrange that fixture

[bishbash]

To be fair Bilkos remarks are nothing compared to the remarks the Celtic players and supporters used on Facebook about Town after the game the other night it was nothing short of disgraceful what some of them were saying and this was after beating Town,at least Clonmel Town would never stoop so low as some of them did the other night anybody that wants to check it out just visit Paddy O Donnells page on Facebook and he wasnt the only one at it.


If it was said on facebook then it is not a matter for this forum, but if you want to get into this tit for tat rubbish then maybe you should quote some of the abuse thrown by Clonmel Town supporters during the game Tuesday night. Also there was quite a few ignorant comments on Facebook last season from people involved with Clonmel Town about Clonmel Celtic. There are no angels on either side don't try and pretend that there is. Lets stick to the football side of things. If you dont rate a player or players thats fine thats football related, leave all the other rubbish out of it.

[the 12 th man]

This is a football site,keep the facebook stuff where it belongs.

[Preds]

Chops I’m not on face book and don’t intend ever going on it so I will take you at your word. As I said there is no place for any of that rubbish talk on this site. I believe we are all mature enough to look beyond that type of stuff and talk about more important football matters. If people used the energy they waste from bitching into more important things like trying to keeping youth football going it would have allot more benefit.

[SgtBilko]

didnt paddy o'donnell once play for Town, i do remember him years ago playing a few games, short memories these guys have. saintsfan you cant be serious about handing 3 points to st michaels, do you not think its a it much to be asked to play 2 in 3 days, especially when they will face the two best teams over the past few years in the TSDL, St Michaels and clonmel Town?

[footballfanatic]

Cant find any paddy o donnell on facebook, oh ya would be low :)

[Chops]

Cant find any paddy o donnell on facebook, oh ya would be low :)Try Paddy Wack and you will find it....Whether it be on this or another thing im entitled to make my point about the behaviour of them...I do agree tho people should put more effort into trying to make sure youth teams dont go under.

[Chops]

Chops I’m not on face book and don’t intend ever going on it so I will take you at your word. As I said there is no place for any of that rubbish talk on this site. I believe we are all mature enough to look beyond that type of stuff and talk about more important football matters. If people used the energy they waste from bitching into more important things like trying to keeping youth football going it would have allot more benefit.I just mentioned what they were up to if ya dont like it dont reply back to my post.

[theboywonder8]

Did St micks and peake villa match go ahead?

[Mega Tots]

Did St micks and peake villa match go ahead?

No it didn't,Villa are playing Clonmel Town Sunday morning so there was no way they could have been expected to play

[GetItOut]

No it didn't,Villa are playing Clonmel Town Sunday morning so there was no way they could have been expected to play

so true.rediculous trying to make them replay it tonight.so stupid.

[rightboy]

I agree it was silly to have fixture tonight but it shud be noted that wednesday / Thursday were also dates for fixture but both clubs agreed to Friday night yes both clubs do before anyone thinks this was imposed on both clubs shud think again it was agreed

[nononsense]

I just mentioned what they were up to if ya dont like it dont reply back to my post.

Chops, I think you have misunderstood preds - I thought he was actually complimenting you but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, regarding the Town/Celtic game, I thought, generally speaking, it was a good sporting game. The penalty decision was harsh in my opinion but decisions like this happen at the highest level. Two things disappointed me. Firstly, the comment on the Clonmel Celtic website regarding the Complex (reference to the grass and lawnmower) was unnecessary and untrue. I thought the Complex looked very well and I'm sure some people made a lot of effort to have it that way. Secondly, I was disappointed to hear the referee had to show a red card to a Clonmel Town player in the dressingroom after the game. What a pity these things should happen.

[Mega Tots]

Rightboy You might want to check your source on that information. Peake were in contact with the league on numerous occasions on wednesday saying that they were not willing to play the game on Friday as it was too close to the town game. The league will even confirm this. Peake were never given the option of playing on Wednesday or Thursday, this would not have been possible either because of funeral arrangements.

[rightboy]

Megatots I can only go on what I have been told as you are but I believe is both clubs agreed to Friday night as for funeral arrangement s I believe the deceased was buried on Tuesday morning now I'm not getting into rights and wrongs but as I said both clubs agreed . Did peake have a full training session tonight

[Mega Tots]

The removal was Wednesday with Burial on Thursday. As I said it 100% wasnt agreed to play the game tonight and the league are aware of this.

[nononsense]

Megatots I can only go on what I have been told as you are but I believe is both clubs agreed to Friday night as for funeral arrangement s I believe the deceased was buried on Tuesday morning now I'm not getting into rights and wrongs but as I said both clubs agreed . Did peake have a full training session tonight

You are totally wrong in everything you are saying and the best advice for you now is to stop making comments like above. I gather you may be a St.Michaels supporter. I don't think the club would be very proud of you, in fact, I would say they would be disgusted with you. The game wasn't played, the matter is now for the TSDL to decide. They have the facts and they are certainly not what you say.

[rightboy]

No nonsense
Where did I say I was representing saints ? Yes I am saints fan and proud but also a football supporter who is not blinded by club loyalty or / tsdl loyalty
Megatots I call as I see it I got info from 2 villa players at Cashel match who thought it was a great laugh to get one over tsdl

[stelling]

[QUOTE=nononsense;1521448]You are totally wrong in everything you are saying and the best advice for you now is to stop making comments like above. I gather you may be a St.Michaels supporter. I don't think the club would be very proud of you, in fact, I would say they would be disgusted with you. The game wasn't played, the matter is now for the TSDL to decide. They have the facts and they are certainly not what you say.[/QUOTE

Well said Nononsense,i have no idea the ins and the outs of the Villa/Saints game but every time this guy posts it's the same carry on,he even has the disrespect to question funeral arrangements,Saints are a great club and this guy drags them through the mud every time

[Mega Tots]

Rightboy I dont know who the two players were in question and I dont really care. I dont think this debate should go on any more. I will send you a link on pm which might just clear it all up for you.

[rightboy]

Megatots I would appreciate that

[rightboy]

Stelling it's rich for you to be on the high moral ground I gv my opionion mine only you agree or don't as before you never read people post as for bringing funeral arrangements into it , why don't you ask your friends on this forum and ask them what they have heard , I'm just being honest and asking for debate on this ?

[West Hammer]

Clubs and Players thinking they can get one over Tommy Lewis -- That is the Rock a whole lot of Clubs have perished on!!

[balls]

i have held back on commenting am neutral here but think peake should have played the game giving a walkover should be last resort for any team there are many smaller clubs than peake who pride themselves on always getting a team out and handing your biggest rivals 3 of the easiest points they will get all season on opening game of league campaign is madness. just a quick example bansha were in exact same position the other night players mother died had hassle of tsdl over getting game off and ended up playing the game minus 5 or 6 players but still got team out. cant understand why peake did not just go into tipp and fufill fixture whats the point in taking on the tsdl over a fixture. After years of dealing with tsdl you realise you just have to go along with the madness. if peake were available to train tonight they should have just went to cooke pk and played the game. just think the whole farce devalues tsdl premier league and should not have happened.

[SgtBilko]

agree with you nononsense about the comment about the lawnmower, thats just typical from that club, who writes these reports? they are only make a show of themselves and the club, very sad, i didnt see the pitch but that venue is always in impeccable condition in august

[theboywonder8]

The fixture shouldn't have been made in the first place,when both clubs were playing again on Sunday,it's the TSDL's problem not the clubs involved,it's not that they have a backlog or anything,let common sense prevail and play the fixture at another date,I'm sure St michaels wouldn't like a free 3 points now would they??

[fourfourtwo]

well lads totally agree with preds ,,fixtures are a joke its an 8 team league should be 9 but is it true st nicholas asked not to go up from the first ,if so how come the third team not gone up then ?? im new to this but been involved in tsdl teams or 17 years ,i like yer views on things and ye are spot on on most of the info ye get about the tsdl...

[bishbash]

Your extremely bitter towards Clonmel Celtic, I've said it before and i'll say it again there are no angels in volved with either side. Don't pain Clonmel Town whiter than white cause they are far from it, as is the case with Clonmel Celtic. You know people involved with your club over the years have said terrible things also so let the rubbish talk that comes from both clubs lie.

[fourfourtwo]

hi lads im new to this but have been involved with tsdl teams for about 17 years..not involved anymore due to kids and work i heard about this site and you lads are great with info about tsdl teams .I was at the town v celtic game and have to say the standard of football was top class both teams trying to play the game the right way...ive heard all the comments about the pitch etc which is crap but these are fans comments which you will get that ,celtic should be pleased that for 90 mins they matched town for fitness and out played them at times which they have not done in the past

[fourfourtwo]

what was the story with st nichlos not going up??? was it true they asked not to?

[Preds]

I just mentioned what they were up to if ya dont like it dont reply back to my post.


Chops as nononsense said I was actually complimenting you.

[Chops]

Chops as nononsense said I was actually complimenting you.I hope you accept my apology Preds

[Preds]

No problem at all chops it was only a little misunderstanding. Welcome to the site four four two. Yes its true they requested not to go up if you go back a few pages you will see a lot of debate about it on this forum.
Lads Can we all put the little issues over the last few days to bed and move on from them and let's get this forum back on track.

[footballfanatic]

Go on so, predictions for the weekend.


Cahir Park 2-2 Cashel Town – W. Burke
Clonmel Celtic 1-1 Two Mile Borris – P. Keane
Peake Villa 3-1 Clonmel Town – J. Maguire, J. O’Dwyer, Jim Walsh