Tipp South & District League 2011/12

[republican]

great win for saints yesterday and a nice reward with a home draw in next round. also well done to bansha celtic on their win. 4 tsdl teams in last 32 is fair going and all 4 will have great chance of progressing further which would be great for the league. the cashel win against clonmel town is not that much of a surprise cashel pushed saints all the way in a league game over there a few months back with saints winnin 3 2. that result yesterday gives saints an oppurtunity to put 1 hand on the trophy if they beat town at home on the 30th dec.

[West Hammer]

Heard there was plenty of BANTER in tipp town between Saints and Bansha Lads. Tough win for Bansha, down to 10 men from the 65th min!

[balls]

Great win for Cashel over town. Also superb win for Peake they really are coming into form. Did Barnes or any other new signings play for them on Sunday?

[MerchantsView]

Derek Breen, Graham Loughman, David McGrath, Michael Rafter, Noel Kent, StephenCarroll. Michael Fitzgerald, James Walsh, Paul Breen (Capt), Chris Higgins, Colin Bargary, Thomas Fahy, Richie Ryan, Pa Quinn, Conor Conneally, Declan Peters, Sean O’Hara, Alan Leahy, Donal Duggan, Jimmy Hynes, Kevin Waters, Jimmy Carr

A lot of new names down there. Best of luck to them.

[qwertyabu]

good morning guys (newbie here) just wandering does anyknow when the draw for the next round of the tipperary cup is on

[qwertyabu]

ok maybe this is a stupid question but does the tsdl team have to be made up from only premier players, some good players down the divisions that could do a job for the tsdl team

[balls]

serious squad assembled, will they all show though, going my past announced squads and the team that played i doubt it. Peake well represented, really fancy them for a good fai run. my 11 from that squad would be :
1 breen
2 bargary
3 higgins
4 breen
5 walsh
6 carr
7 duggan
8 waters
9 kent
10 rafter
11 Hynes

[the wombat]

ya good team there alright, i hope everyone shows. just one point, i have seen the peake goalkeeper on a few occasions this season and i think he is the best in the league and deserves the jersey

[MerchantsView]

Intersting to see stephen carroll from peake there. Only 18 along with conor connelly. Is the league trying to go with more youth than usual?

[rightboy]

Yes good squad there let's hope we do have late withdrawals with mystery illness / injuries and hopefully clubs will make sure their players attend and I hope we dont have the farce like last time where we had 10 saints players starting certainly not fair on saints Im hopeful though other clubs will step up to the plate

[SgtBilko]

Conneallly goes to school in Cashel, as far as i am aware he wudnt not be on the first 11 for Town even at these times, i wonder how he is on the panel

[philipnoonanful]

Conneally is in college in Cork now. I'd say his bean is wrecked when he gets called up to le Oscar Traynor. Where is the Boca Glasheen? Some man for 20 goals a season

[MerchantsView]

Is boca from tipp town fc?...if so, decent player in fairness to him.

maybe tipp town fc have 1 or 2 capable of being on oscar traynors?

[West Hammer]

Has the Oscar Traynor Cup in South Tipp hit rock bottom this season. Most clubs have no intrest in it, most players (as the squad Tsdl manager has to put together shows) have no interest in it and the supporters don't turn up to watch the games, you would see more people at any Div 3 or 4 game on most Sundays. The only reason so many St Michael's players are on the Squad is because of 2 pepole Tommy Lewis and James Walshe, and the fact 90% of premier players won't touch it with a barge pole. League need to have a serious re-think after this season's fiasco!!

[rightboy]

Westhammer I agree with your main argument on the whole Oscar Traynor situation
Where I slightly disagree is firstly this lack of support has been going on for numerous seasons not just this year and your view that saints players only get on it because of influence from 2 people while I agree that 10/11 players should not be happening do you not agree that the likes of Higgi breeno chalkie jimmy carr Ritchie ryan are there on merit
I will ask a question to the general forum are we at the point of withdrawing the team or do we change the format
where we pick a team from lower leagues with players who will appreciate been selected ?

[West Hammer]

The point about St Michael's was that just because the Saints players could be easily contacted on the day the Clonmel and Thurles lads did not turn-up, they should have then contacted other teams to put players forward for the next game not just stay with all 10 or 11 saints lads.
Maybe there should be trials a month before the first game and at least you would know that the players that come to a trial have the interest to play for the TSDL team and outsiders can at least feel they have a chance of getting a fair go at a place!! It might not produce the best the TSDL could put together but it will be a stable squad made up of lads who will feel a bit of pride in wearing the shirt.

[oldlegs]

The best 11 players are not always the best team . Have seen it before managers get oscar traynor job and have a shopping list of players ( not talking about tsdl just talking about oscar teams in general) their eyes light up they take the best players in league guys with rep's and hype . Then when comes to putting team out team doesn't gel etc etc sometimes u better off getting a nice even balanced team with guys who work hard etc and have desire . Before ye take me up wrong i'm not singling out anyone etc or any team this is just my view . I beleive that must leagues could put together 2 or 3 differant oscar teams and still be strong as must prem players are roughly up and around the same level ie the left back from clonmel should be on a par with left back from micheals give me a good keeper a good centre half centre mid and a scoring forward and any manager should be able to fill in the spaces around them in such a way as to bring best out of team

[philipnoonanful]

I reckon Town will beat Michael's tomorrow #boldprediction
Feed The Hurricane McGratgh and he will score.

As Bob Dylan once said, "This is the story of Paddy Kane. The man Johnny Cremins came to blame.

[republican]

hilarious post especially your prediction :)

[West Hammer]

I think philipnooanful has had to many cans of Bud over the Christmas!!!

[SgtBilko]

any result from cooke?

[nononsense]

any result from cooke?
Wasn't at the game but just heard St.Michaels won 2-0, second half goals from Cooper Fahey and Chalkie Walsh.

[West Hammer]

Very poor 1st half with Town playing the better football, Saints playing alot of kick and rush stuff. 2nd half a bit better with the difference being Jimmy Carr, the Town no2 will be having nightmares about him. Even at 2 down Town had 2 or 3 good chances. Pitch was heavy and I was surprised to see so many players going down with cramp, at least 4 or 5!!. Saints will have to improve big time going forward if they are to win FAI or Munster honours this season.

[Pearoso27]

Very poor 1st half with Town playing the better football, Saints playing alot of kick and rush stuff. 2nd half a bit better with the difference being Jimmy Carr, the Town no2 will be having nightmares about him. Even at 2 down Town had 2 or 3 good chances. Pitch was heavy and I was surprised to see so many players going down with cramp, at least 4 or 5!!. Saints will have to improve big time going forward if they are to win FAI or Munster honours this season.

I would agree with you on the improvement side of thing but were still wining and not playing great. When Rafter gets fully fit and Pa Quinn back in the side Saints will be a differant animal. We played our best football too soon last year and ran out of steam in the end but still managed to win the Munster Jnr. A good year all things considered so heres hoping for more silver ware in 2012. HAPPY NEW YEAR all!

[rightboy]

Pearso I agree not the best from saints but still won 2/0 playing poorly as we all remember last year playing very well against town and losing 1/0 which cost us the league , saying all this I think 2/0 was about right town had a couple of chances in the 2 nd half but so had saints to extend the lead , I think we will put it down to Xmas festivities but saints can re focus with a tough game at villa on Sunday which will stand to them the following week in fai
As for town they have something to work with the young guys ( if they hold onto them) it can turn around very fast all you have to do us look at saints we were in the same boat 3/4 seasons ago

[republican]

pearosa i would agree with you saints peaked too soon last year which probably cost them an fai at the end of the day however i wouldnt automatically assume that saints are going to rediscover the form thay had at this time last year as i believe alot more teams now have their homework done on saints and the town performance the other night summed that up aswel as the game in dublin and also pike's performance last year in fai final.

[balls]

have thurles players left town ? Will they be in Peake squad next week versus saints? can anyone shed abit of light on the situation

[MerchantsView]

I know for a fact Ted O'Connor has left and join Peake. Other than that, nothing on the other lads. Peake V Michaels is going to be a very good game. I reckon Peake are now as strong as anybody bar Michaels, who seem to be a step ahead of everyone at the minute.

[balls]

Ya peake should give them a game, hopefully they have a bit done over the xmas break otherwise be very difficult to keep up with saints for 90 minutes.

[qwertyabu]

congrats to TippTown Fc for winning the 3rd division shield yesterday against killrusty. 6-0 final score
great performance all round.

[Chops]

Derek Loughnane gone back aswel. I heard Murt Tynan has left Town aswel and the new goalie they signed from Kilkenny

[Honestman]

As I have alluded to in previous post... it's all well and good signing players from outside your own area but you must remember you are not going to get too much loyalty when you get a poor run of form. Rats and sinking ships come to mind.
Question for Town supporters, is it possible that some of the local players left because of the influx of the many outsiders joining? Also by signing to many non locals are you losing a clubs true identity for the sake of success?

[balls]

I have seen sides with all local players really struggle too when results go against them so its not just as easy say everyone left cause they were not local. when a team is struggling week in week out some fellas dont want to know.Unfortunatly Its just the make up of attitude of a % of modern day junior players. In most clubs there are the players who will just dissappear when going gets tough and the ones that stay through thick and thin have to be admired. Admittingly it must be very hard to travel long distances to play out a season for no silverware but at the end of the day these players would have no problem doing the same journey if they were still in fai or top of the league.
The local lads who left Clonmel in the past few seasons have been a major loss. But most of these left of there own accord and the club done its best to replace them.Unfortunatly the replacements are now almost all gone and all thats left is loyal servants like raymie condon, shanahan and scully and bunch of young lads. They have no choice now but to give youth a chance with the first team and im sure with a year or two of rebuilding they can get back to the top again and compete

[cufc champions]

You have to keep your identity, as a local club. The older generation of Town have that. We have had imports with some sucess (McSharry) and some failures. It was a source of major pride to the club in 2004 that everyone of the panel was from Carrick and still is today with just one player from Waterford City. Teams in the Waterford City have no identity as players hop from one club to the other regularly even Tramore are now diluted which they never where just in search of silverware. Hopefully Town can get back on track next season.

[Honestman]

Balls your point is well made and in the most part I agree with you.... I believe Town just had to many outsiders at the one time, every team can integrate 2/3 without losing the local identity and those players chosen correctly can have a hugh influence within the club. I believe in the longterm town with the old core (all class players IMO) integrated with the new young talent will profit in the long run. How will the returning players to old clubs be viewed, the Villa boys had just won a league before they left, will the loyal servant who had to suffer a poor season 2010/11 be happy.... now that they return when the club is returning to strength and should challenge for league next season if they retain what they have built to date?

[Honestman]

Yes very true and to be admired the success Carrick had with local talent and most of it achieved when Rock was still in existence and nearly always had a decent team..

[balls]

The returning villa players left previously to join Kilkenny in similar circumstances and again peake were left in the lurch but a great sign of the club that they have rebuilt twice in say 5 or 6 years. Clonmel town should take inspiration from villa they way they came back from mass amounts of players leaving and the villa done this without the resources of top youth players that town have in the ranks. Its not nice to talk about players being welcomed back or not, but as said earlier the ones that stay really should be admired. Hate mentioning names but alan leahy for peake is great servant in good and bad times and im sure when the good times do come around, lads like him appreciate and value there medals alot more and rightly so. On a final note as its junior football dont think its fair to be slagging and naming players for leaving there clubs so i will be refraining from commenting on this topic in future. only a game at the end of the day and if these players were not some of the best in tsdl other clubs would not be looking for there services. So realistically as most of us when playing were probably never in demand :) its easy for us to comment about loyalty

[the wombat]

So you think that a junior player who is offered payment to play and test themselves at a higher level should be looked on as some sort of turncoat. These players wanted to try league of ireland with kilkenny and junior clubs should be happy that they have produced players with the ability to do so. Your opinion sounds very bitter and smallminded to me. Nobody should begrudge a player the chance to play at a higher level . To do so is quite sad. On players moving between junior clubs the buck stops with the managers, and it always does. It is not the players faults in clonmel whats going on at the moment, everybody and the dogs on the street know what the problem is

[balls]

i never said i had a problem with the players leaving to play league of ireland, every top junior player should aim to play if at all possible logistically. i only brought in the fact about kilkenny exodus from peake when a previous poster mentioned would they be welcomed back and i was just stating that some of the players were welcomed back in similar circumstances in the past. I am far from small minded and am probably more a league of ireland football fan than a tsdl one so go easy with calling people sad "the wombat". Happy new year to you 2 fella :)

[stelling]

The loyalty thing in junior football is always something that interests me,there has to be something to be loyal to,for example if you play with Saint Michaels you are playing with one of the countries finest teams and the same goes for Town so its a lot easier be loyal to that than for example if you play with Borris or Villa and the club goes from year to year in different states,sometimes a shambles and sometimes strong,players have short careers and its important to play in Fai finals or Munster finals,thats my twopence worth

[qwertyabu]

congrats to tipp town fc on winning the 3rd division shield in their 2nd year going

[philipnoonanful]

I heard that Ronan Stanley has moved to Peake Villa as well. There hasn't been an exodus like this since Moses led the Israelites from Egypt the night of the Passover. Some scenes.

"You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Stan, P.S. We should be together too." Last words

[ponyobrien]

Two Mile Borris 0-4 Clonmel Celtic

Kevin Waters, Dwaine Burns (2) and Paul Shanahan were the scorers

[rightboy]

Villa 1 saints 4
Ritchie ryan put saints 2 up but Alan Leahy pulled one back Just on halftime but saints came out 2nd half with goals from chalkie and Michael McGuire to give saints a good win

[philipnoonanful]

Town played well in a 1-0 win against Cahir Park today. Dave McGrath was hungry, he was fed, and he scored. All thoughts of going to Fairview are surely behind him.

On a more serious note, the Cahir goalkeeper Slattery, prone to the odd howler, sliced the ball to McGrath at one stage. With an open goal, Dave went to hit it on his left but fell over. The capacity crowd erupted with laughter. Ray Condon said it was the funniest thing he's seen in all his days in the TSDL.

There's whispers that Tony Davis could make a Paul Scholes-esque return to football. Scholes is a pure helmet

[footballfanatic]

Good game, i dont think the scoreline really did peake any justice, they were close for an equaliser a few times in the second half but just couldnt put the ball in the net... michaels had that bit of class late on to win the penalty to make it 3-1 and clincher to make it 4-1.
Villa are strong but michaels just top class.

[SgtBilko]

anyone hear what happened with the two St Michaels B lads today?

[footballfanatic]

What did you hear bilko? i see now that ya say it they were 7nil, had they a few sent off or what.

[SgtBilko]

two michaels lads went at it on the pitch and one got sent off

[Roberto]

two michaels lads went at it on the pitch and one got sent off

'Went at it'!!:confused::confused:, I have no problem with gay people but there is a time and a place :p