2011 attendances

[Lim till i die]

You mentioned Wexford Youths in your post, they don't seem to be doing too badly.

Wexford Youths are dying.

His post, arguing the relevance of the 1920s when talking about football in 2011, is of course, still utterly bizarre.

[Lim till i die]

I counted 60 people in Drom tonight at Salthill v Harps with about 30 of them Harps. First time there, strange experience.

That's a fairly good turnout from Salthill. :ball:

[geezer]

[QUOTE=shellyriver;1502194]Any club in a location that doesn't have a tradition in soccer, pre-1920s will simply will not get off the ground.

Fact of matter is that soccer is historically a game most popular in Northern half of Ireland, with pockets of popularity on east Coast from Dublin to Dundalk, 'garrison towns' and towns with Protestant secondary level schools.

****e you speak, its 2011, Garrison town ****e did you here that rubbish from the head of the fai or something. Soccer is the beautiful game, its played in every village in the land practically at this stage

[nigel-harps1954]

That's a fairly good turnout from Salthill. :ball:

And most of them watched from inside the clubhouse.

[nigel-harps1954]

[QUOTE=shellyriver;1502194]Any club in a location that doesn't have a tradition in soccer, pre-1920s will simply will not get off the ground.

Fact of matter is that soccer is historically a game most popular in Northern half of Ireland, with pockets of popularity on east Coast from Dublin to Dundalk, 'garrison towns' and towns with Protestant secondary level schools.

****e you speak, its 2011, Garrison town ****e did you here that rubbish from the head of the fai or something. Soccer is the beautiful game, its played in every village in the land practically at this stage

I'd agree with this..tis awfully puzzling where he came up with this rubbish. The pre-1920's thing, we all know is rubbish, doesn't need explaining. But the 2nd part....wut? Garrison towns? Football is probably the highest supported sport in the whole country. LOI may not be the highest supported but football itself is for me more widely supported than GAA with every 2nd person claiming to be a United fan or a Liverpool fan or some of the like.
In the LOI your point doesn't back up either, look at well supported teams like Cork and relatively well supported teams like Waterford, Galway and even Cobh had their fair share of a crowd when they were going well, then tell me they're near the east cost or northern half of ireland garrison towns or whatever rubbish you're on about.

[shellyriver]

Eloquent stuff there Mr Tribesman!

[shellyriver]

Aw, just read any books about the history of soccer in Ireland - there was a good would recently brought out about Co Donegal!

[bluemovie]

1824 at Turners Cross tonight

Very poor for a derby but the weather can't have helped.
Bout 30/40 Blaahs

Strange. There were 50 of us on the bus!! Including those who drove, there were at least 100 of us which is still a good bit down on what normally travels to Turner's Cross. (I could name most of them if that helps:D)

[razor]

Strange. There were 50 of us on the bus!! Including those who drove, there were at least 100 of us which is still a good bit down on what normally travels to Turner's Cross. (I could name most of them if that helps:D)Did they all go to the match? or was there a stop off in Mahon Point for some late night shopping :D
No need for the names. :D
I was just going by what I thought was in the away end but was never much good at guesstimating crowds.

[bluemovie]

Haha. There were about 30 standing for the second half, but a lot more sitting down behind. 1800 must be your lowest of the season? Thought that was strange considering you'd have expected to beat your neighbours.

[El-Pietro]

if garrison towns were the only places that should have LOI clubs then sign Fermoy F.C. up.

though that club was only formed in 1927 so no good I suppose

[redarmyfaction]

Practically large Irish Town had a garrison in the peiod from 1900 to independence, I remember an ordanance survey map of Tralee showing a massive barracks, funnily the Barracks in Sligo was closed in 1906 and was small by comparison. In fairness to Shelly River he puts "Garrison Town " not Garrison Town the former use, is often a pejorative used by GAA types about certain towns, it means that the scum of the dregs of the British army left their filthy seed there and this is proven by the popularity of "Soccer" in those places. An example of a rural rather than an urban myth I suppose.

[Dodge]

Luckily its only been 90 odd years since the foundation of the state. In another 30 or 40 we can maybe stop trying to blame the LOI's failings in the British army...

[redarmyfaction]

The traditional big Irish port towns and cities of Dundalk, Drogheda, Dublin, Wexford, Waterford, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Sligo, and Derry provide 9 out 10 teams in the PD and 15 out of 21 overall. Off the top of my head the non port teams have only 5 FAI cups and 2 league titles between them. Athlone aside none of the other larger Irish towns without a port, Kilkenny, Tralee, Clonmel, Carlow for example have featured much in Irish Football, Kilkenny now has larger urban area than Sligo but no football team, the others mentioned have never been involved at all, so population size is not the deciding factor. It is possible the Port towns were a little more cosmopolitan and open to outside ideas. The ports in some Irish towns were quite large, Sligo for example had a mile of working quays for a population of maybe 15K and once had a substantial trade with the River Plate.

I am not saying that this is true but it is a good a theory as any other. There is also a theory that the percentage of LOI supporters versus the general population in any town is inversely proportional to ratio of horses to people on the local authority housing estates. This theory is supported by ISPCA statistics, but is for another day.

[Eminence Grise]

Sligo for example had a mile of working quays for a population of maybe 15K and once had a substantial trade with the River Plate.


Maybe you could re-start the trade by signing a few of their now relegated players?

BTW, Fenit is considered the port for Tralee. It's on the same bay, only 5 or 6 miles from the town.

Interesting line of thought...

[Rasputin]

Practically large Irish Town had a garrison in the peiod from 1900 to independence, I remember an ordanance survey map of Tralee showing a massive barracks, funnily the Barracks in Sligo was closed in 1906 and was small by comparison. In fairness to Shelly River he puts "Garrison Town " not Garrison Town the former use, is often a pejorative used by GAA types about certain towns, it means that the scum of the dregs of the British army left their filthy seed there and this is proven by the popularity of "Soccer" in those places. An example of a rural rather than an urban myth I suppose.
Spot on.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Off topic I know but 593 in Tolka last night

[TiocfaidhArmani]

Off topic I know but 593 in Tolka last night

Shels attendances have been poor this season. I know the weather was poor Friday but I couldn't believe we couldn't even get 600 against Athlone when we're flying in the league.

[pineapple stu]

535 I think was called out at Galway v UCD last night.

Must do an update in the next couple of days as well actually.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Shels attendances have been poor this season. I know the weather was poor Friday but I couldn't believe we couldn't even get 600 against Athlone when we're flying in the league.

That was the attendance for the league cup quarter final

EDIT - actually don't know why I replied as he won't be able to reply back!

[trevy]

615 at Waterford United v Longford as per extratime.ie.

[Dunny]

1300 given for Dundalk v Bohs

[OneForTheFuture]

What was the attendance in Monaghan last night minus the cows
(and no not those lovely ladies in the Pink jerseys :blowkiss:)

[Mr Maroon]

535 I think was called out at Galway v UCD last night.

Must do an update in the next couple of days as well actually.

548

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[El-Pietro]

535 I think was called out at Galway v UCD last night.


inlcuding 5 Cork City fans and 1 Finn Harp(s) fan

[Bray Head]

Bray's three recent home games against Bohs, Dundalk and Sligo had similar crowds of between 1,100 to 1,200 at each with good away support for all three.

[White Horse]

Practically large Irish Town had a garrison in the peiod from 1900 to independence, I remember an ordanance survey map of Tralee showing a massive barracks, funnily the Barracks in Sligo was closed in 1906 and was small by comparison. In fairness to Shelly River he puts "Garrison Town " not Garrison Town the former use, is often a pejorative used by GAA types about certain towns, it means that the scum of the dregs of the British army left their filthy seed there and this is proven by the popularity of "Soccer" in those places. An example of a rural rather than an urban myth I suppose.

In Dundalk's case it was the railway that was the source of interest in football, not the army barracks.

Ireland had a huge railway network at the beginning of the 20th century. The building of that network was a huge task and involved bringing in thousands of skilled workers from England and Scotland. Those people are the founders of many of our clubs.

[passinginterest]

4,014 seems to be the official attendance from Rovers - Pat's. Seemed like more.

[Dodge]

yeah, a good bit more. The away end was extended by about 10 rows as Pats fans with home tickets were initally told to stand "near your own fans". Most estimates had our crowd at about 1,000 (the 700 allocation was sold out by Thursday)

Both sides of the opposit stand had a fair bit of space in them but I had presumed most were crowded in the middle.

[nigel-harps1954]

About 500 at Harps v Cork.

[Lim till i die]

453 at Limerick v Mervue

[Magicme]

What was the attendance in Monaghan last night minus the cows
(and no not those lovely ladies in the Pink jerseys :blowkiss:)

charmer!! Stand holds 620 and it was almost full and about another 200 standing so would guess about 700 mark. Felt like I served 3 million people in bar though! Our pink jersey is gorgeous isn't it oh and I still am a right cow!

[dfx-]

Easily well over 5,000 in Tallaght. Not much room where I was down in the lower section of the Square end of the West Stand which is usually the emptiest part of the ground.

[Lim till i die]

I am rather sceptical as to the authenticity of some of the attendances in this thread. :ball:

[bluemovie]

615 at Waterford United v Longford as per extratime.ie.

Yeah I would have said about 600 attended. Over 1000 paid in :D

Tickets for the upcoming friendly against Liverpool were on sale inside the ground so loads of barstoolers paid in, bought tickets and left an hour before kick-off. Definitely the first time there was ever a large queue outside the RSC an hour before the gates opened!

[Sam_Heggy]

359 - Harps v Cork

[Hitman]

1707 at City v Salthill.

[gufc2000]

Extratime has Mervue-Athlone at 220

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

1970 in the showgrounds per extratime

[MMVIII]

Definitely a lot more than that there. The main stand was 95% full and there was a large crowd behind both goals. I would of said around 2300 or so.

[pineapple stu]

Update after...eh...the last five weeks...

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,522 (2010 - 1,835; 2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 1,165 (952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550) (missing Dundalk)
Derry - 2,321 (1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 807 (859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682) (missing Derry)
Dundalk - 1,564 (1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Galway - 943 (869; 1,076; 1,393; 2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD)
Pat's - 1,365 (1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,802 (3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Sligo - 2,077 (1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 498 (610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 193 (354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316) (missing Longford and Wexford)
Cork - 1,908 (1,693; 2,681 PD; 3,142 PD; 2,897 PD; 2,941 PD; 3,644 PD)
Harps - 466 (644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Limerick - 552 (598; 429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 398 (230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD) (missing Limerick)
Mervue - 327 (123; 166)
Monaghan - 352 (410; 183; 177; 292; 204; 183) (missing Cork, Salthill, Shels and Wexford)
Salthill Devon - 122 (122)
Shels - 764 (737; 972; 986; 888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD)
Waterford - 535 (619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 253 (343; 494; 767; 810) (missing Monaghan)

Premier Division average - 1,618 (1,512; 2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
First Division average - 562 (682; 417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

Overall average - 1,147 (1,095; 1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)

Recent games missing -
Bray v Dundalk
Drogheda v Derry
Athlone v Longford
Athlone v Wexford
Longford v Limerick
Monaghan v Cork
Monaghan v Shels
Wexford v Monaghan

[Rasputin]

1970 in the showgrounds per extratime
Yup easily around 2300-2400.

[Dodge]

1970 in the showgrounds per extratime

Seems kinda specific to be a guess. particularly one 300-400 short of Sligo fans guesses. Do they say where they got it from?

[TiocfaidhArmani]

Why can all clubs not just release accurate attendances figures on the night? Can't be that hard.

[Dodge]

Why can all clubs not just release accurate attendances figures on the night? Can't be that hard.

They all report them to the FAI. Most clubs announce them at the games.

[Bray Head]

Bray - 1,165 (952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550) (missing Dundalk)

Bray v. Dundalk was about 1,100

[MMVIII]

1900 in the Showgrounds my hole. Easily 2500 at it.

[Candystripe]

Derry City V Shamrock rovers 2,092

I seriously think that is away too low but it's the official figure.

[SPXcyan]

Seems spot on to me ;) I had guessed 2100 :D

[BonnieShels]

1970 in the showgrounds

2011 in Tolka