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ArFella
23/07/2018, 12:16 PM
Not the worst draw we could get, I reckon we should fancy ourselves to get past Graz assuming they lose to Ajax, they have not gotten beyond round 3 since 2011 and their league season kicks off this weekend. Now to focus on Larnaca, Mon the town!

Duggie
23/07/2018, 12:18 PM
Jeez there two really tough draws. I dont think dundalk would have any chance against Ajax if it came to it. Maybe strum graz. Think celtic will get past rosenborg who again will be tough.

paul_oshea
23/07/2018, 12:19 PM
Obviously going through the tie overall makes sense, but maybe a bit of building and forward planning, one win in a tie where a team like cork loses 3 or 4 - 1 overall would make sense if they were consistently getting into Europe.

Ezeikial
23/07/2018, 12:21 PM
Jeez there two really tough draws. I dont think dundalk would have any chance against Ajax if it came to it.

You might be right, but I don't think Stephen Kenny would agree.

It would be an amazing occasion and an opportunity to get some payback for the 1987 defeat

https://www.dundalkfc.com/history/dundalk-fc-in-europe/1987-european-cup-winners-cup-ajax-amsterdam/

White Horse
23/07/2018, 12:25 PM
Assuming Ajax beat Sturm Graz to go forward in the Champions League, I think the Austrians are not a bad tie for Dundalk.

They are just starting their season and did lose 10 league games last season.

Not easy of course, and Dundalk do have to get past Larnaca first. But not a disastrous draw.

Both Dundalk and Cork will have to be at their best to stand a chance.

osarusan
23/07/2018, 12:25 PM
Not a hope for either Irish team no matter who loses and ends up playing them, in my opinion (if Dundalk get through).

pineapple stu
23/07/2018, 12:26 PM
If you're going to get knocked out in Europe, it may as well be by a team like Ajax I guess.

paul_oshea
23/07/2018, 12:34 PM
Assuming Ajax beat Sturm Graz to go forward in the Champions League, I think the Austrians are not a bad tie for Dundalk.

They are just starting their season and did lose 10 league games last season.

Not easy of course, and Dundalk do have to get past Larnaca first. But not a disastrous draw.

Both Dundalk and Cork will have to be at their best to stand a chance.

Like England in the world cup, you need RK to reel ye in. Worry about Larnaca before you start even thinking about anyone else.

Duggie
23/07/2018, 12:36 PM
Ajax have brought back daley blind and dusan tadic. They are looking really strong again with a lot of younsters coming through again. Lets hope they beat Graz and we may not have to worry about them. That is if larnaca can be overcome

Ezeikial
23/07/2018, 12:37 PM
Like England in the world cup, you need RK to reel ye in. Worry about Larnaca before you start even thinking about anyone else.

Fans don't have to worry about anything. We can dream away to our hearts content

Ezeikial
23/07/2018, 12:48 PM
Stephen Kenny is a dreamer too!


James Rogers‏ @jamesdundalk (https://twitter.com/jamesdundalk) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/jamesdundalk/status/1021375284724092928)More



Spoke to Stephen Kenny about the Europa League draw. While not looking beyond Larnaca, he wants his players to dream of a run out in the Amsterdam Arena


https://twitter.com/jamesdundalk/status/1021375284724092928
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiynZjxWkAAOLQ3.jpg

Pablo Escobar
23/07/2018, 1:23 PM
Given the group we had been given, Rosenborg probably were the easiest draw (assuming it is them)! I'm not buying that Suduva would have been easier, their recent record suggests they'll likely beat Red Star anyway.

Very tough draw for Dundalk too, but don't look past Larnaca. They're as good as any Sturm Graz!

dundalkfc10
23/07/2018, 2:05 PM
Ajax have brought back daley blind and dusan tadic. They are looking really strong again with a lot of younsters coming through again. Lets hope they beat Graz and we may not have to worry about them. That is if larnaca can be overcome

They also sold their best play Kuilvert.

Rosenborg beat Ajax last season in playoff round of EL.

Get past Larnaca first!

oriel
23/07/2018, 2:27 PM
Never mind Ajax or Sturm, need to get past AEK on Thursday at home first, they are slight favs to win this in oriel park (DLK 17/10 v AEK 7/5)

Real ale Madrid
23/07/2018, 2:38 PM
Can't accuse Dundalk fans not being confident in themselves anyway. This here without a hint of irony!

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dundalkfc10
23/07/2018, 2:51 PM
Can't accuse Dundalk fans not being confident in themselves anyway. This here without a hint of irony!

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Beats conceeding being bet before the tie starts (Cork V Leiga for example)

osarusan
23/07/2018, 3:02 PM
Dundalk v Ajax could be about as Total as Total Football gets.

hahahahahahahah wtf

Real ale Madrid
23/07/2018, 3:04 PM
Beats conceeding being bet before the tie starts (Cork V Leiga for example)

Hey we were proven right!

And people had the temerity to mock us over 'signing a Premiership player'

swinfordfc
23/07/2018, 3:07 PM
Dundalk have a HUGE tie this Thursday first against AEK ... this is the big game!!!!!

Ezeikial
23/07/2018, 3:09 PM
Can't accuse Dundalk fans not being confident in themselves anyway. This here without a hint of irony!

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That's pure nonsense.

Ajax haven't played totaalvoetbal since the 1970's

ToberonaTornado
23/07/2018, 3:10 PM
We gonna be picking the bones outta LOI tweets here now?:rolleyes: The thrash talk round this place really is getting un-original.
Keep the crap like that over on the forum it originated on please and tia.

Real ale Madrid
23/07/2018, 3:13 PM
We gonna be picking the bones outta LOI tweets here now?:rolleyes: The thrash talk round this place really is getting un-original.
Keep the crap like that over on the forum it originated on please and tia.

Trash talk - get a grip - it was a funny tweet. Twitter is a public forum. Good luck on Thursday!

Duggie
23/07/2018, 3:21 PM
Larnaca out of season though. Dundalk should have a decent chance of going through. There should be no fear for them going into this tie. its looks fairly 50-50.

jinxy lilywhite
23/07/2018, 3:22 PM
Trash talk - get a grip - it was a funny tweet. Twitter is a public forum. Good luck on Thursday!

while you hide behind a pseudonym

swinfordfc
23/07/2018, 3:38 PM
Ok - I don't support Dundalk nor Cork City but I make this statement - over the last 5 years - (bert kassies 5 years club ranking) - at present Dundalk are ranked 141st best club side in Europe with 7pts (1.5pts got this year so far) out of 490th teams I think which is a fair achievement! Cork City are 230th placed with 3.75pts (Zero this year) which is still ok and are above Rangers and Hibs from Scotland! But there is a sizable gap between both clubs so far in Europe. And in fairest, it is up to these 2 clubs to drive on the league now in Europe which is tough but I think Dundalk can get over AEK and then Graz and Cork can get by Rosenburg!

Real ale Madrid
23/07/2018, 4:10 PM
while you hide behind a pseudonym

Thanks for that Mr. J. Lilywhite.

I replied to the chap on twitter as well so no hiding! #SpotTheCorkFan

paul_oshea
23/07/2018, 4:18 PM
Ok - I don't support Dundalk nor Cork City but I make this statement - over the last 5 years - (bert kassies 5 years club ranking) - at present Dundalk are ranked 141st best club side in Europe with 7pts (1.5pts got this year so far) out of 490th teams I think which is a fair achievement! Cork City are 230th placed with 3.75pts (Zero this year) which is still ok and are above Rangers and Hibs from Scotland! But there is a sizable gap between both clubs so far in Europe. And in fairest, it is up to these 2 clubs to drive on the league now in Europe which is tough but I think Dundalk can get over AEK and then Graz and Cork can get by Rosenburg!

...Oh and Mayo for Sam. Mayo people and reality.

ger121
23/07/2018, 5:51 PM
I think at this stage of the qualifying rounds,all you can hope for is a tie that you have a chance in. With Dundalk, Larnaca and Strum (if they lose to Ajax and Dundalk get through) present that and likewise with Cork if as expected it is Rosenborg. Derry and Rovers showed this to an extent based on their 2nd leg performances. Good Luck to both sides.

TonyD
23/07/2018, 6:21 PM
Just saw the goals from Cork/Legia there. Shocking stuff really. All three were pretty awful errors. Cherry has been getting all the blame for the first, and he was poor, but Christ, how much time did they give the guy on the balll in the middle of the pitch to put in the cross ? Then a terrible pass in midfield to put the guy through for the second, and Damien Delaney made an awful effort at tracking and trying to tackle his man for the third, particularly bad flora someone who was playing in the Premier league in England until recently.

samhaydenjr
23/07/2018, 6:22 PM
Assuming Cork City's home tie is played at Turner's Cross and is a sell-out regardless of who they face, is there actually any significant financial benefit to playing Celtic over Rosenborg? I know it would be hyped a lot as the "glamour tie", but would there be any option to actually earn, say, extra TV money? I guess you could argue that it could lead to increased long-term interest in the club, but then meeting Juventus and Spurs in two seasons hasn't led to Rovers selling out Tallaght regularly in the long-term

sbgawa
23/07/2018, 6:49 PM
Bigger tv money plus opportunity to get some corporates in for a dinner and ticket combo to make extra money.....extra pitchside advertising plus good incentive to get your existing sponsors to think that money spent on loi isn't completely for charity and a waste of time.

Duggie
23/07/2018, 7:43 PM
Just saw the goals from Cork/Legia there. Shocking stuff really. All three were pretty awful errors. Cherry has been getting all the blame for the first, and he was poor, but Christ, how much time did they give the guy on the balll in the middle of the pitch to put in the cross ? Then a terrible pass in midfield to put the guy through for the second, and Damien Delaney made an awful effort at tracking and trying to tackle his man for the third, particularly bad flora someone who was playing in the Premier league in England until recently.
Totally agree. Jeez that 2nd and 3rd goal were pityfull to watch. Poor effort in the second leg.

El-Pietro
23/07/2018, 9:04 PM
Here's the thing though. Two huge errors nfor the first two aside we were on that tie. The third came because we were chasing it.

ToberonaTornado
24/07/2018, 1:11 AM
Trash talk - get a grip - it was a funny tweet. Twitter is a public forum. Good luck on Thursday!

Yeah - tell me when to get THE........... JOKE!

Thanks for the thursday good lucks.

swinfordfc
24/07/2018, 7:32 AM
...Oh and Mayo for Sam. Mayo people and reality.

I hate the GAA .... foolish people (especially in Mayo)

paul_oshea
24/07/2018, 10:03 AM
Just saw the goals from Cork/Legia there. Shocking stuff really. All three were pretty awful errors. Cherry has been getting all the blame for the first, and he was poor, but Christ, how much time did they give the guy on the balll in the middle of the pitch to put in the cross ? Then a terrible pass in midfield to put the guy through for the second, and Damien Delaney made an awful effort at tracking and trying to tackle his man for the third, particularly bad flora someone who was playing in the Premier league in England until recently.

Delaney clearly wasn't fit, after about 75 mins he was seriously puffing. Cork were good but lost the rag in the last 15-20 mins. I think the scoreline didn't reflect the reality of the game, but that said I thought LOI teams had breached that gap in the last quarter, especially to a side who had just come out of pre-season(first league game played before the 2nd home leg).

There's definitely been enough on show from the sides this year to see that they can hold ball well and play decent football against better opposition.

Real ale Madrid
24/07/2018, 10:13 AM
Some good news for Dundalk.

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Ezeikial
24/07/2018, 10:30 AM
Florian Taulemesse is probably the key absentee being the Cyprus league top scorer last season.

We'll try to feed them some more dodgy bottles of Macardles tonight

Ezeikial
24/07/2018, 10:39 AM
Caulfield wants Turner's Cross to host possible Celtic tie

Cork City manager John Caulfield would prefer his side's home European ties to remain in Turner's Cross even if they wound up in a possible glamour tie against Celtic in the next round of the Europa League .
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0724/980687-caulfield-wants-turners-cross-for-possible-celtic-tie/

He is absolutely right. Maintain the maximum advantage possible

It would be a sight hard to stomach to have thousands of Paddys shouting for the foreign team (and not being even the slightest bit embarrassed about it)

El-Pietro
24/07/2018, 10:42 AM
We apparently sold close to 3k tickets for the third round last night during our game against Derry. There were non stop queues right through the game. I missed Delaneys goal as I saw the queues had died down so ran down quickly to grab some for my group.

dundalkfc10
24/07/2018, 10:53 AM
We apparently sold close to 3k tickets for the third round last night during our game against Derry. There were non stop queues right through the game. I missed Delaneys goal as I saw the queues had died down so ran down quickly to grab some for my group.

Dead right!!

What would Celtic be allocated 5% or is it 10%?

El-Pietro
24/07/2018, 10:58 AM
Dead right!!

What would Celtic be allocated 5% or is it 10%?
I thinks its 5% but we'd give them the same corner we give everyone from a segregation point of view. More worrying would be the Celtic fans cheering against their local side .I think its going to be Rosenborg though so hopefully no issue there.

Philosophizer
24/07/2018, 11:22 AM
Given that Rosenborg just scraped past Valur of Iceland with a 94th minute penalty I'd be amazed if they even come close to beating Celtic.

Rosenborg are a good team, but Cork should have absolutely no fear of them if they end up playing them. Last year they needed their goalkeeper to make a brilliant save to deny McMillan and a another save to tip a Kilduff strike on to the bar in extra-time to prevent them from being dumped out.

Rosenborg are currently 2nd in the Norwegian table, and the 3rd place team (Molde) lost to bloody Glenavon a few weeks ago. They gave them a bit of a thumping in the 2ng leg out in Norway, but still, Glenavon!

And Rovers proved last week that Irish sides can mix it with the top Scandanavian teams no problem. All it takes is belief, and cut out the brain-fart mistakes that seem to dog us in Europe so often.

dundalkfc10
24/07/2018, 12:05 PM
I thinks its 5% but we'd give them the same corner we give everyone from a segregation point of view. More worrying would be the Celtic fans cheering against their local side .I think its going to be Rosenborg though so hopefully no issue there.

How many seats are in the away end btw?

Have seen 500 mentioned but its not that much is it condiering they cover the seats at the front for some strange reason (when we play there anyway)

El-Pietro
24/07/2018, 12:13 PM
How many seats are in the away end btw?

Have seen 500 mentioned but its not that much is it condiering they cover the seats at the front for some strange reason (when we play there anyway)
5-600 I think. I used to know the exact number. The front rows are closed off because of fans from Dublin clubs climbing over the barrier onto the pitch.

pineapple stu
24/07/2018, 12:25 PM
the 3rd place team (Molde) lost to bloody Glenavon a few weeks ago. They gave them a bit of a thumping in the 2ng leg out in Norway, but still, Glenavon!
I don't think they did give them a thumping. It was 3-1 going into injury time - Glenavon must have been pressing for a second goal which would have sent them through, and got caught on the break (twice, admittedly). It's easy done, and changes a one-goal game going into injury time into what seems like a 5-1 hammering.

dundalkfc10
24/07/2018, 12:47 PM
5-600 I think. I used to know the exact number. The front rows are closed off because of fans from Dublin clubs climbing over the barrier onto the pitch.

Last time Rovers tried that on the "Shedboys" from Oriel, they all entered the ground at the same time and climbed over the netting until it was down!

Just a thought for our trip in a number of weeks.

Hope its Rosenborg you play, as I could see you giving them a game (cant even remember if they took any fans to oriel last year bar a few in the stand)

sbgawa
24/07/2018, 5:45 PM
I can't see Rosenberg coming within a couple of goals of Celtic and will be punting accordingly. The Scottish premier below Celtic might not be much but Celtics are a decent team. ....who I don't support btw.....paddy power have Celtic 4 to 1 on to qualify. And Rosenberg 8 to 1 to win tommorow

ger121
24/07/2018, 7:29 PM
Legia one down at home. Interesting

patrickccfc
24/07/2018, 7:41 PM
They are there to be got at. The most frustrating thing is we didn't really do it. Although we had chances in the first leg, we just didn't take them.