LoI in Europe 2018

[Ezeikial]

Most people , he would be an example of what I went on to say.

To be fair, you can apply the 'most people' qualification to almost any age statement

most people who aren't good enough at 15/19/21/23 will never be good enough

[legendz]

Europa League 18/19;
17 - Directly qualified.
6 - NCQ3 (4) and NCQ4 (2), (Champions League League Route)
4 - CHQ4, (Champions League Champions Route)
8 - LCQ4, (Europa League Champions Route)
13 - Q4, (Europa League Cup Winners and League Route)

48 to 32 is a massive reduction. Some media reports have suggested leagues outside the top 25 will be excluded from the Europa League. It'll take more than that for the reduction required.

[sbgawa]

Can't be for 18/19 teams already competing for places.
19/20 maybe.

[Poor Student]

We could end up with a situation similar to rugby. The top competition is a perpetually closed shop. The secondary competition is almost a closed shop save for token qualification through the third tier competition, which is the only place a team can directly qualify from a smaller league.

[legendz]

We could end up with a situation similar to rugby. The top competition is a perpetually closed shop. The secondary competition is almost a closed shop save for token qualification through the third tier competition, which is the only place a team can directly qualify from a smaller league.
The Champions Cup isn't a closed shop. They have seen the need for a second tier and even a third as well.

I didn't agree with the power grab of the top 4 leagues for 16 automatic berths in the Champions League. A benefit of the restructure however was Cork for example being guaranteed a Europa League safety net.

If the next inevitable restructure is done in any small way properly, it should put an end to 3rd placed Champions League teams dropping into the Europa League knockout stage.

A proper 3rd tier European club competition should be exclusively for the best clubs outside of the top 25 leagues.

If UEFA are essentially talking about a Europa League II or whatever they'll call it, how are they likely to funnel league champions into these competitions?

If Celtic are in the top 25 leagues and are shocked by Dundalk. Will UEFA treat Celtic different for being from a higher league than Dundalk.

If league champions from outside the top 25 have to start off a round earlier, the best teams of that lot not making the Champions League or Europa League might question why are they being excluded from a competition in place of teams below them in their respective national leagues. Over to UEFA to sort out that conundrum.

[Poor Student]

The Champions Cup isn't a closed shop. They have seen the need for a second tier and even a third as well.



I thought qualification was restricted to the English Premiership, French Top 14 and Irish, Welsh, Scottish and Italian participants in the Pro 16?

[legendz]

I thought qualification was restricted to the English Premiership, French Top 14 and Irish, Welsh, Scottish and Italian participants in the Pro 16?It built up around these leagues. Who's being excluded? Georgia, Romania, Germany and Russia could be proactive in forming their own Eastern Pro League and knock on the European door.

The likes of Scotland and the Netherlands are starting to feel excluded from the Champions League with the many more hurdles they have to jump over to get there.

You've a broader sense of closed shop which is fair enough. I'd see a Super League restricted to certain clubs as a closed shop.

[pineapple stu]

Decent result for Bohs today in the Youth League; lost 2-1 in Denmark. Nothing to fear in the return leg in three weeks you'd imagine. Midtylland were 2-0 up after 75, but Bohs got one back shortly after Midtylland's second. Don't know did many head out?

Molde - who beat UCD on penalties last year - lost 10-1 to Chelsea.

In the Europa League, AEK Larnaka gave Bayer Leverkusen a heck of a game in Germany; took an early lead and were 2-1 down with two minutes to go, but eventually lost 4-2. But they - along with Cork's conquerors Rosenborg and, indirectly, Dudelange - are all on no points after two games.

[patrickccfc]

FC Krasnodar, didn't pats knock them out a few years back? They beat Sevilla 2-1 tonight.

[DCWA]

Wasn't that Krylya Sovetov? Currently 2nd from bottom in the Russian top flight. Krasnodar 2nd top.

[pineapple stu]

No, that was Krylya Sovetov Samara, who were in the middle of big financial issues at the time. Still a great result for Pats though, especially coming back from 3-0 down in Russia

[patrickccfc]

Wow, I've got that totally wrong. The name sounded familiar.

[pineapple stu]

Yeah, Krasnodar were actually hardly even formed when Pat's beat Samara (was it 2008?) UCD were drawn against Krasnodar three years ago, but then lost the second leg against Slovan Bratislava and never got there. I think that's the closest a LoI team has come to playing Krasnodar.

[marinobohs]

Decent result for Bohs today in the Youth League; lost 2-1 in Denmark. Nothing to fear in the return leg in three weeks you'd imagine. Midtylland were 2-0 up after 75, but Bohs got one back shortly after Midtylland's second. Don't know did many head out?

Molde - who beat UCD on penalties last year - lost 10-1 to Chelsea.

In the Europa League, AEK Larnaka gave Bayer Leverkusen a heck of a game in Germany; took an early lead and were 2-1 down with two minutes to go, but eventually lost 4-2. But they - along with Cork's conquerors Rosenborg and, indirectly, Dudelange - are all on no points after two games.

Excellent result for Bohs, that late goal gives us a good chance of getting through. not sure if many went over (apart from club officials), most focus is on the trip to Cork on Monday. Would be nice if the U19s could get through a round (or two).

[Philosophizer]

Bohs beaten 2-1 again by Midtylland tonight so the Danes go through 4-2 on aggregate.

This game bore a striking resemblance to many LOI European games. Bohs matched the Danes is most areas of the pitch but Midtylland were just ever so slightly more polished in the final 3rd. Mainly they just had one kid (didn't get his name but he wore no 13) and he was v classy and was the difference between the teams.

[Dalymountrower]

Bohs beaten 2-1 again by Midtylland tonight so the Danes go through 4-2 on aggregate.

This game bore a striking resemblance to many LOI European games. Bohs matched the Danes is most areas of the pitch but Midtylland were just ever so slightly more polished in the final 3rd. Mainly they just had one kid (didn't get his name but he wore no 13) and he was v classy and was the difference between the teams.
Agreed .Bohs well on top first half but tired badly.No 23 was good Their number 10 celebration of the of og was Sheperd like.
Good football and crowd of 1500 or thereabouts.

[Dalymountrower]

Number 13 for them I meant.
Shout out for the Bohs left full probably the eighth best left back in the league after all those Rovers left backs.

[sbgawa]

At best 10th. :)
Hard luck tonight

[Philosophizer]

Number 13 for them I meant.
Shout out for the Bohs left full probably the eighth best left back in the league after all those Rovers left backs.

I looked up the Midtylland website this morning - that kid who was wearing no. 13 last night was Gustav Isaksen. He's only 17! Was streets ahead of everyone on the pitch last night I thought. Be interesting to see how he does in the next few years...

[Hitman]

Midtjylland through to the quarter-finals now after beating Manchester United 3-1.