Cork AUL 2011/12

[thebooboys]

He was asked to come down. He seemed interested. Said his brother/friend was taking over Bohs so he'd stick with them. That's all we know.

[Horse24]

Are the likes of this forum responsible for the growth in player and manager's egos? Was it always like this?

[Horse24]

Or it is just society?

[freddieflinston]

Congratulations overthehill on your new appointment . Perhaps it would have been better for football in the northside if you had stayed at Ballyvolane and tried to rebuild the club?? I appreciate you gave many years service to that club but there are many that say there would still be a club there if people werent driven away from the club

[overthehill]

There is always one flinty! Ballyvolanes achievements over the last 15yrs speak for themselves and would be the envy of many clubs with better facilities and large committees in the AUL. The amount of well wishes received over the past week has been overwhelming with the most common comment from people who know what they are talking about is an amazement at how the few people involved stuck it out for so long. To those who were " driven" away i hope they were wearing their seatbelts because most of them would be liable to "crash" when under any bit of pressure.
Perhaps it may work out for the better in the northside as locally Glenthorn and Leeds juniors could both do with having one less team in the area!! Anyway fred i dont look back so thanks for your good wishes - from now on it will be all systems go at Killumney Utd.

[the owl]

Been away for a while and have to say im thrilled for our club that we accepted to go Prem A. I for one like the format of the Mossie Cup. Great local derbies and a chance to renew our rivalry with our friends from Cobh. A huge test, and a chance to pit ourselves against our neighbour Leeside. Blarney and Leeds too will be a great test for our guys first year in the Prem. Best of luck to all.

[K.C.]

Heard last night that the A.U.L wanted to toss a coin between Carrig and Douglas Hall but the hall refused saying they wanted to deserve to be in Premier A and not go up because of a team pulling out. Carrig had no problem with it though so they went up.

[scaffa7]

Me thinks i can see the 12th man hovering over this page again!!

[the owl]

K.C, Carrigtohill were asked to go up and we accepted. Simple as that. Isnt every team below the Prem divisions striving to be at the top ??? AUL, toss a coin ?.....i find that very hard to believe. Its to play Prem football, not for a packet of sweets !!!
It is a shame to see football clubs with great history either folding or deciding to drop a division as one of them is my former club, so for you to suggest that we were somehow happy about it so that we could have a chance up in Prem A is a bit insulting.

[Radiostar]

Heard last night that the A.U.L wanted to toss a coin between Carrig and Douglas Hall but the hall refused saying they wanted to deserve to be in Premier A and not go up because of a team pulling out. Carrig had no problem with it though so they went up.
KC, I dont think anyone involved with or has an interest in aul football, did not know the circumstances of why Carrig were asked to go Premier A next season, the fact is that a club folded, as has happened plenty of times in the past too, we were asked as runners up in div 1 which was the obvious thing to do, whether or not Douglas Hall felt they wanted to go up as champs is irrelevant to Carrig, personally I think we will hold our own in that division next year and will look forward to meeting ye.

[The 'View]

Jesus lads, calm down. No disrespect Over, put now having figured out who you are I'm surprised. Don't take this as an insult just thought you'd have stayed local. But I don't know the full story and I'm sure things were fairly poor. So good luck in your new venture, we'd have taken you with a heart and a half.

[the 12 th man]

The next off topic or rubbish post in this thread will incur a suspension,don't say you weren't warned.

[overthehill]

Appreciate that view, that was a minor part of the problems, been living far side of Ballincollig for many years now so have just moved to a "local" club. Never sought the job, was going to take a break totally but was approached and coaxed back in.

[K.C.]

Of course it's irrelavent to carrig. Ye were asked to go up and said yes like 99 % of teams would do. Someone asked why not Douglas and I said what I'd heard. We had a great battle with ye start of last season and we too will look forward to doing it again.

[Dixie's Cousin]

Jesus lads, it really heated up on here over the weekend! Did Freddie Flintstone take down his comments or did 12th man do it?

[the 12 th man]

Jesus lads, it really heated up on here over the weekend! Did Freddie Flintstone take down his comments or did 12th man do it?

I binned a lot of rubbish that was here,I'd appreciate some on topic non personal posts.

[JRyno]

Any teams looking for a friendly between now and start of season give me an email decourceyalbion@gmail.com cheers

[shetland]

one man doesnt fold a club lads...give the guy a break...it should be appreciated the fact that ballyvolane were such a big part of the aul over the past number of years...

i think the bigger issue is the amount of clubs that are trying to field teams within a short radius of one another.eventually u end up with the situation that glenthorn/ballyvolnae find themselves in...the bigger clubs leeds/marys will always survive (well 99% of the time) so its very hard to keep a one team club surviving..these small teams uaually come through with a good crop of players and might even have a second go at it but longterm there comes a stage when the well dries up and with no back up of underage structure, strong commitee (numbers wise), history etc etc that team will have no option but to fold....same happened ballyvolane same is ahppening village, same happened togher rovers etc etc..

not saying i have the answer as all these teams at one stage or another were really successful so merely making a point
excellent post red and white,your not far wrong there.

[Parkboy]

Just looking at the sections on the cork aul website and can't understand why Park B have been put into 3rd division section?? Is it an error? Can someone from Park clarify coz they were 1st division last year if memory serves me right.......

Just to clarify this lads.Club requested to be re-graded to either second or third division.Reason being a few lads from the first team have hung up the boots,another lad was advised to take a break for a few years due to a bad injury,another lad has joined another team and two others have imigrated.
Basically there will be 4/5 lads taken from the second team and the club (well most of the club) decided it would be best to start off in a lower division as they felt they wouldnt cope in the first division.
A lot of mixed feelings about this but as far as i know its a done deal.

[Innishvilla]

Just to clarify this lads.Club requested to be re-graded to either second or third division.Reason being a few lads from the first team have hung up the boots,another lad was advised to take a break for a few years due to a bad injury,another lad has joined another team and two others have imigrated.
Basically there will be 4/5 lads taken from the second team and the club (well most of the club) decided it would be best to start off in a lower division as they felt they wouldnt cope in the first division.
A lot of mixed feelings about this but as far as i know its a done deal.

I know I'd prefer to see a team stay together in the third division rather than fall apart while being hammered in the 2nd or 1st division, fair enough, my one problem would be that if Park do go on and win something in the 3rd division I feel that's a bit unfair...

[fruice]

i play with a team in the third division and i feel on paper that teams being regraded is all wrong. drop a division fair enough but a team drooping two divisions is rubbish. park and the like will be starting from a clear advantage having played at the higher level for a couple of years will really stand to them.there are rules in place for a reason. I'm sure plenty of clubs over the years would have loved to have been regraded when things went a bit pear shapedbut they took it on the chin and took what came there way and went with Grattan is prime example of this . regradeing is only the easy and unfair option.

[Radiostar]

i play with a team in the third division and i feel on paper that teams being regraded is all wrong. drop a division fair enough but a team drooping two divisions is rubbish. park and the like will be starting from a clear advantage having played at the higher level for a couple of years will really stand to them.there are rules in place for a reason. I'm sure plenty of clubs over the years would have loved to have been regraded when things went a bit pear shapedbut they took it on the chin and took what came there way and went with Grattan is prime example of this . regradeing is only the easy and unfair option.
I completely agree with ya Fruice, makes a mockery of the the whole thing, and to be fair to Parkboy I don't think he sounds happy about it either, it just should not be allowed by the AUL. I think at the start of most seasons teams lose a number of players from the previous season, but you just try and recruit a couple of players and get on with it. I'm suprised a club the size of Park Utd would struggle to get players as they have a good underage set up down there too.

[Parkboy]

I completely agree with ya Fruice, makes a mockery of the the whole thing, and to be fair to Parkboy I don't think he sounds happy about it either, it just should not be allowed by the AUL. I think at the start of most seasons teams lose a number of players from the previous season, but you just try and recruit a couple of players and get on with it. I'm suprised a club the size of Park Utd would struggle to get players as they have a good underage set up down there too.
You are dead right Radiostar,i am not happy with this.*Innishvilla / Fruice - I personally dont agree either.We have got to the Cross two years in a row and have always put up a good fight in the last few seasons.As those that went to the corinthians cup final in the cross,we played some great football.We also held our own against Springfield and Carrig although we were beaten by both.Now both these teams are gone up i thought we would have a good chance in division 1.
Although Park is a big club we dont have any youths team.Basically lads are playing up until U16/U17 and thats it.Fermoy are putting in an U23 team this year so a lot of lads see this as a better grade to play.There is also a Noth Cork league in process for years and most guys just find it easier to get up on a Sunday morning,travel 5/6 miles and have a game of football instead of travelling 30/40 miles and getting off work on Saturdays.

[Horse24]

It really is a no win situation for the league, but 2 divisions is a bit much. One division if needed, like Passage.

I remember UCC a few years ago went to the league and said that they thought they might be too good for one division and should be moved up another one. there was uproar but they moved up.........................and they were relegated!!!

In Premier A this season, most of the teams in the league from last year are rumoured to be struggling in one way or another (lies in most cases!!). No clear pre-season favourite ala Kilumney, and I probably thought Village & Glenthorn would struggle last season. I cant be sure who will shine or struggle this season

[fruice]

parkboy not trying too have a go but say ye get promoted and i feel ye have a very strong chance for obvious reasons.using the line of thinking that dropping two divisions is the right way to go and yer situation remains the same, would ye be better refusing promotion as yer players will be a year older and ye will probably lose one or two more come this time next as the second division wouldn't suit ye? was it a club or an aul decision to drop ye two divisions?

[Horse24]

Great point fruice. Would Park (or anyone else in the same position) turn down promotion?

[Rumourboss]

Heard Coughlan is going to Marys senior.

[backpass]

I heard leeside have brought in a few good players and coachford have signed a few also. could be one of these teams to challange kinsale or wilton this year.I dont think there will be any other chellangers outside these two to try and challange the top 2.

[fruice]

hi lads just wondering do any of ye know any website where i can pick up a few drills for the new season anything from fitness,set pieces shooting etc.

[Innishvilla]

hi lads just wondering do any of ye know any website where i can pick up a few drills for the new season anything from fitness,set pieces shooting etc.

Quite tricky - I did a bit of searching a while ago and most of the sites were american ones for training 9 year olds...

[bluey]

There is a website soccer expert.com that has alot, u need to do bit of searching to get adult drills but alot of the kids drills they have instructions to convert into adult drills...

[Horse24]

Fruice, Try Finesoccer.com

Yes, unfortunately, there are 3 or 4 teams I could name who I believe are not 100% in yet. I hope they all survive.

[Radiostar]

Fruice, Try Finesoccer.com

Yes, unfortunately, there are 3 or 4 teams I could name who I believe are not 100% in yet. I hope they all survive.
Who have ya heard about Horse? Any high profile teams

[Nedge]

Hoping to put together a tournament for August Bank Holiday weekend in assocation with a Sport Festival in Ballincollig. It would be run all on one day with teams guarenteed to play 2 half an hour aside games at least. Were aiming to have a mixture of Aul Premier and MSl division 1 and 2. On the same day, Ballincollig will play host to Legends 11 ( including John Aldridge, Jason McAteer and ex Man u, Celtic and Liverpool players) . There will also be live Music after from Bipolar Empire and Jerry Fish and the Mudbug Club on the same night. Any teams interested , please phone Daniel on 0857222692.

[freddieflinston]

Lads are there any preseason tournaments on this year? I would like to watch a few games before the season starts

[Rumourboss]

heard Coughlan is heading to Marys senior.

[Rumourboss]

Crescent Athletic have a great squad. Ran by Lenord Forde. After signing a few young stars too. Saw their Keeper playing in the Blarney Sevens lads, a former Rockmount player i was told. Looks a great bit of stuff. Quality. Theyre a team on the up, watch out Division 1. So Build and indeed they will come.

[Rumourboss]

Crescent Athletic have a great squad. Ran by Lenord Forde. After signing a few young stars too. Saw their Keeper playing in the Blarney Sevens lads, a former Rockmount player i was told. Looks a great bit of stuff. Quality. Theyre a team on the up, watch out Division 1. So Build and indeed they will come.

[backpass]

heard Coughlan is heading to Marys senior.

Garys not a bad player and he could do well for marys as the msl is not THE BIG STEP UP that people say. The few years in the aul will stand to him big time and if he is gone to marys I think blarney street will struggle next season unless the have got in good replacements for the players who have gone but so far the transfer mill is very quiet

[casilles]

Crescent Athletic have a great squad. Ran by Lenord Forde. After signing a few young stars too. Saw their Keeper playing in the Blarney Sevens lads, a former Rockmount player i was told. Looks a great bit of stuff. Quality. Theyre a team on the up, watch out Division 1. So Build and indeed they will come.

Good squad alright there and well ran but @rumourboss , we share alot out in Monard 1 but quotes we dont so please find some of your own !!!! :peace:

Oh ya rumourboss shall we take it your a crescent member

[Rumourboss]

Unfortunately my playing days are long over Cas. Not a member and managing my own east cork team.usually on their forums. Played for Cobh once upon a time. Would like to manage back up in the Northside of the City.
The road to success is always under construction.

[Radiostar]

Well any word on teams that did not register for this season?

[Radiostar]

Premier A just got harder to survive in but it's good to see the runners up in 1st div get a chance to get promoted(as per cork aul website)

[casilles]

Garys not a bad player and he could do well for marys as the msl is not THE BIG STEP UP that people say. The few years in the aul will stand to him big time and if he is gone to marys I think blarney street will struggle next season unless the have got in good replacements for the players who have gone but so far the transfer mill is very quiet


and who else is gone backpass?

[casilles]

Premier A just got harder to survive in but it's good to see the runners up in 1st div get a chance to get promoted(as per cork aul website)
from the Cork Aul website

Promotion and relegation procedure for 2011/12 will be as follows:

Premier: 2 Relegated.

Premier A: Two automatically promoted. Two automatically relegated.
Third from bottom will play the winners of a playoff game between the two second place teams in the League 1 and League 1A.
If the play-off team wins the game against the third bottom team from Premier A then they will be promoted and third from bottom in Premier A will be relegated to first division.
If the third bottom team wins then they will stay in Premier A.

First Division: One automatically promoted. Two relegated from each section.
Two second placed teams will play off for the right to play the third bottom team in Premier A in a play off for an extra promotion/relegation position.

Second Division: Two automatically promoted/Two automatically relegated from each section.

Third Division: One from each section automatically promoted.
Three second placed teams in each section will take part in a round robin league to decide on the fourth team to be promoted to second division.

the above was was brought up at the agm about teams coming second getting nothing in return so at least they have responded to the matter. think it all a good idea and gives teams an incentive to keep going even if 1 team is running away with the league

[six-yard-box]

Garys not a bad player and he could do well for marys as the msl is not THE BIG STEP UP that people say. The few years in the aul will stand to him big time and if he is gone to marys I think blarney street will struggle next season unless the have got in good replacements for the players who have gone but so far the transfer mill is very quiet

Kinger till he goes away paddy mc n mousey.. Alan conroy is gone back.. And Darren heaphy from rockmount juniors. I'm sure cas has more up his sleeve but IMO theyve strengthened well.

[backpass]

Kinger till he goes away paddy mc n mousey.. Alan conroy is gone back.. And Darren heaphy from rockmount juniors. I'm sure cas has more up his sleeve but IMO theyve strengthened well.

Kinger good signing till he goes, Alan great club man and good servant to blarney street down the years. Not to sure about the rest tho but at least they will contribute to a big squad and that will be vital in any league with competition for places. I

[Innishvilla]

from the Cork Aul website

Promotion and relegation procedure for 2011/12 will be as follows:

Premier: 2 Relegated.

Premier A: Two automatically promoted. Two automatically relegated.
Third from bottom will play the winners of a playoff game between the two second place teams in the League 1 and League 1A.
If the play-off team wins the game against the third bottom team from Premier A then they will be promoted and third from bottom in Premier A will be relegated to first division.
If the third bottom team wins then they will stay in Premier A.

First Division: One automatically promoted. Two relegated from each section.
Two second placed teams will play off for the right to play the third bottom team in Premier A in a play off for an extra promotion/relegation position.

Second Division: Two automatically promoted/Two automatically relegated from each section.

Third Division: One from each section automatically promoted.
Three second placed teams in each section will take part in a round robin league to decide on the fourth team to be promoted to second division.

the above was was brought up at the agm about teams coming second getting nothing in return so at least they have responded to the matter. think it all a good idea and gives teams an incentive to keep going even if 1 team is running away with the league

I agree it is a great call - Yes Prem A gets a bit tougher but at least the team that finishes third from bottom has the chance to preserve their status...
I have always said if a division doesn't offer something for 2nd place that by half way through the season any team who had a poor run but is safe from relegation can have nothing to play for now - 3rd divisions look tough to get out of now!!!

[thebooboys]

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[dodgy_knee]

I agree it is a great call - Yes Prem A gets a bit tougher but at least the team that finishes third from bottom has the chance to preserve their status...
I have always said if a division doesn't offer something for 2nd place that by half way through the season any team who had a poor run but is safe from relegation can have nothing to play for now - 3rd divisions look tough to get out of now!!!


That's true, unless you are a mid-table first division team who drops 2 divisions without being relegated.