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Kearney
26/10/2011, 11:14 PM
paceman it was cronin ,in goal ,o callaghan killumney ,kearney do,peelo blarney st,healy wilton,s daly,blake, shane o neill wilton jeffers kinsale,holden, im missing one,.loyd dorgan came on and did well as did a lad from park . it was shocking to watch. they will have to beat the tippeary dL by a huge margin now and that i cant see happening away from home.the aul had alarge share of poession and did hit the woodwork twice one by the park united sub,but failing to score tells it all really.,when most predicted a 4 or 5 hammering .a lot of credit should go to the msl manager for the way he set his team up.
Missing Keane right wing. I agree with most of what you said Shetland to be fair. Maybe a tad harsh but being honest the performance wasn't good enough & that's the main thing. Too many big players didn't perfrom, AUL didn't look like a team where as the MSL did. The AUL definitely have better players & did play better football but there was no end product. Delea never showed up & I thought team selection could have been better. Would agree with most of team considering the players that were available on the night, but keane shouldn't have been right wing, it should have been Robbie Walsh or Lloyd Dorgan. Jeffers was the wrong option up top also. AUL should have had a stonewall pen in the 1st, hit both the post & the crossbar but I thought the MSL defended well. The turning point was at 1-0 when Shane O' Neill headed towards goal after a flick on from a corner & from where I was sitting it was a DEFINITE goal. I think everyone thought it was a goal & considering it was on the side of the linesman I don't know how he didn't give it. I even heard after that most players from both sides said it was a 100% a goal.
They now have to beat Tipp away 3-0 to qualify, it seems like a mountain to climb being honest but I hope after tonight that they can only play better.
shetland
26/10/2011, 11:20 PM
a good report radiostar, but both centre forwards were poor in my oppinion,pace and running around with a lot of effort isnt good enough at this level. both of these players are playing on the wing with their clubs,where was dereck deleay tonight.if thats the best the aul have to offer the league is going downhill fast. the buck stops with the manager and those who put him in charge for the last three years.maybe now they will realise they got it wrong again.lads its only a few years ago that the cork aul were oscar traynor champions,. whats gone wrong.tonight the manager was tactically out managed and had no answers,
shetland
26/10/2011, 11:26 PM
Missing Keane right wing. I agree with most of what you said Shetland to be fair. Maybe a tad harsh but being honest the performance wasn't good enough & that's the main thing. Too many big players didn't perfrom, AUL didn't look like a team where as the MSL did. The AUL definitely have better players & did play better football but there was no end product. Delea never showed up & I thought team selection could have been better. Would agree with most of team considering the players that were available on the night, but keane shouldn't have been right wing, it should have been Robbie Walsh or Lloyd Dorgan. Jeffers was the wrong option up top also. AUL should have had a stonewall pen in the 1st, hit both the post & the crossbar but I thought the MSL defended well. The turning point was at 1-0 when Shane O' Neill headed towards goal after a flick on from a corner & from where I was sitting it was a DEFINITE goal. I think everyone thought it was a goal & considering it was on the side of the linesman I don't know how he didn't give it. I even heard after that most players from both sides said it was a 100% a goal.
They now have to beat Tipp away 3-0 to qualify, it seems like a mountain to climb being honest but I hope after tonight that they can only play better.how could i have forgotten keane,but i agree dorgan looked lively when introduced.the whole set up of the oscar traynor needs to be changed drastically.
Kearney
26/10/2011, 11:34 PM
how could i have forgotten keane,but i agree dorgan looked lively when introduced.the whole set up of the oscar traynor needs to be changed drastically.
I agree, things need to change but I for one never thought the AUL could win the oscar traynor this year. When they won it, everyone who was involved or watched games said they were lucky to win it. Now you need luck but getting out of the group this year would have been a start after last year. U never know but would be surprised if they qualified. Niall is gone at the end of the season, the gaffer needs to be a big AUL man & probably shouldn't be attached to any club. I just hope that enough people apply for the job to spark a change.
shetland
27/10/2011, 8:40 AM
donie totally agree with you and its straight away that they should start looking..the winning manager of a few years ago might be available and the work his backroom staff did was unreal. littleman i think was involved then and had . a major part in that victory.as i have said previously that its not right that you train and manage a team from another league ,and be able to give 100 per cent to aul job.i think its vital that you ,be able to watch players in action with your clubs.how can that be done when bandon have games on saturday ,when most aul games are plaYED.
Shilts
27/10/2011, 9:43 AM
Best of luck to the Cork AUL team tonight.
I think they'll win easily (maybe by 5)
Can't see it being blown up early though :D
Most incorrect prediction of the week goes to...ME!
Bad result - can't remember the MSL team ever beating the AUL previously.
shetland
27/10/2011, 10:03 AM
how can team be a team when i heard thrugh the grapevine that players were told the squad would be posted on aul website on monday ,and yet when some were to train with their clubs they still didnt know the final squad .add this to the farce of the first training session and you know what i mean. with now o reagan gone ,a few who wont play under him could be enticed back for next season.
super_mario
27/10/2011, 11:56 AM
Shetland your always going on about what the league has to offer and players who aren't on it such as Hurley who is ineligible Derek Mac who DOESN'T wanna play then
Throw in the fact then that delea Didn't turn up and gettings has no interest what's anyone supposed to do?? Go to these fellas and drag them out??? Shetland really now do me a favour and name your first 11 that you'd have going with last night out of what was available???
freddieflinston
27/10/2011, 12:14 PM
made it to the game last night for the second half . was behind the goal in the shed end on the linesmans side! it was a goal pure and simple . dont know how or why he didnt give it??? My opinions are based on what i saw and only on what i saw as i didnt see the first half . Looks to me like alot of players didnt play to their capabilities . 3 out of the 11 i would say! was talking to a guy from an MSL club and he said the MSL team was significantly changed to last year. shetland you made a comment about Jeffers from Kinsale . As far as i know he played most of his football as a striker until he went to Kinsale (shilts you might correct me on that one) and he was one of the AULs best performers in the second halfi thought the substition came too late . the guy who came in on the right wing did well and if his crossing had been a bit better might have changed things.I'm going to make a comment now and i dont care how it is taken . Any player that is called up to the AUL panel should see it as an honour regardless of who the manager is and in my eyes any guy who is elligible and doesnt want to turn up should perhaps be banned from club football.As a former player i'd have given my left arm to be called up to the panel.
shetland
27/10/2011, 12:30 PM
to mario and freddie, what was on show last night six or seven would be on everybodys team but tactically they were found wanting in my oppinion.,re unavailable players i can tell you that the top striker wont play under o reagan ,reason ,he went on a stag that was booked months in advance a few seasons ago it clashed with aul rep game . the manager choose to have it out with him and player wont get involved since.hopefully that will change soon.freddie to represent yor league is indeed an honour and i did,but not knowing where you stand on the night before the game is a joke and to be ringing around managers to send players to trials the night before isnt on either.facebook notification is not good enough,.to many eggs in one basket is what comes to mind.
freddieflinston
27/10/2011, 12:37 PM
Shetland , Mario asked you a DIRECT question which you have again failed to answer and i've also asked you in the past!! with the benefit of hindsight name your squad from whats AVAILABLE in the AUL - include derek Mccarthy if you want . Did the current manager steal your sweets or something?
qwertyui
27/10/2011, 12:56 PM
I suppose 1-11 i'd have the Kinsale team in to represent the AUL. :eek:
Poor result last night. Sounds as if it could have gone differently if decisions went another way but still not good enough. Are our expectations too high? Compare that team to the winning team of 3 years ago. No comparison really.
shetland
27/10/2011, 1:15 PM
freddie no sweet stealing involved ,he is just not good enough and has too much on.i would say the same about any one else in similar position.ok my team would be cronin who played well last night. i would have dereck mc carthy and dereck delea up front ,would have skillington as a back up as he offers something different. lyod dorgan and o neill are the best wingers from what ive seen,graham keane is better suited to the middle as his distribution is top class ,blake would compliment him well. im not saying that my team would differ much from last nights but after three years you would surely have put on a better performance.lads it all comes from the top surely we can agree here.the aul did not look like a team the msl did.we go on about munster senior league and what players would be good enough..jeez in all fairness our best couldnt beat their juniors.does anybody else offer a different approach,ive voice my oppinion on this set up from the start and got slated ,get behind the team and manager,a joke.people from the legue went to the cross last night in hope,dont think they would go again.were the tactics wrong,radiostar was right moving peelo was a panic move .it was 442 v 433 that wasnt addressed early enough.
super_mario
27/10/2011, 1:22 PM
Avoided my post again Shetland what about everyone else?? Throw yer 11 together and see how did opinions are, ever think the players although might be the best in the AUL maybe there just not good enough????
My team
1. Crow ( Blarney St)
2. O callaghan Killumney
3. Babsy (Blarney St )
4. Kearney (Killumney)
5. Keegan ( Wilton)
6. Shane o Neil (Wilton)
7. Daly (Wilton)
8. Blakey ( Wilton)
9. Robbie Walsh (Knockavilla)
10. Holden (Wilton)
11. Delea (leeside)
shetland
27/10/2011, 1:41 PM
mario i would make 4 changes from yours keane for daly ,sully for holden .and dorgan for keegan and o neill for walsh,but you seem to be missing the point, if anyone one else was manageing the team last night the result would have been different ,eg proper preparation, hAS got to come into it. you asked me to name my team ,even if it was the same as the team that started last night it should be beating the msl.if a team is not performing ,do you get rid of the manager or the team.mario are you in management yourself were you at the game,could you see where the problems were.
greengrass
27/10/2011, 2:45 PM
made it to the game last night for the second half . was behind the goal in the shed end on the linesmans side! it was a goal pure and simple . dont know how or why he didnt give it??? My opinions are based on what i saw and only on what i saw as i didnt see the first half . Looks to me like alot of players didnt play to their capabilities . 3 out of the 11 i would say! was talking to a guy from an MSL club and he said the MSL team was significantly changed to last year. shetland you made a comment about Jeffers from Kinsale . As far as i know he played most of his football as a striker until he went to Kinsale (shilts you might correct me on that one) and he was one of the AULs best performers in the second halfi thought the substition came too late . the guy who came in on the right wing did well and if his crossing had been a bit better might have changed things.I'm going to make a comment now and i dont care how it is taken . Any player that is called up to the AUL panel should see it as an honour regardless of who the manager is and in my eyes any guy who is elligible and doesnt want to turn up should perhaps be banned from club football.As a former player i'd have given my left arm to be called up to the panel.
it was my understanding of the situation with the MSL team that if they didnt turn up they would be suspended for a few games.
Is this not the same with the AUL team?
shetland
27/10/2011, 3:06 PM
ld say i would be hard to implament,fellas with work commitments shift etc may not be able to give the time for a league team.
villaman10
27/10/2011, 3:58 PM
[/B][/U]it was my understanding of the situation with the MSL team that if they didnt turn up they would be suspended for a few games.
Is this not the same with the AUL team?
that only happened to the hall players last year who said they would be their, then when the bus was leaving their was no sign of them!! so they got 3/4 game bans! if a fella tells you from the beginning that he can't commit thats fair enough i think!
thebooboys
27/10/2011, 5:16 PM
To set the record straight Derek Delea was working, he didnt not show up as someone suggested
thebooboys
27/10/2011, 5:17 PM
Ricky Gettings was on the standby list. He wasnt a no show as suggested
super_mario
27/10/2011, 5:57 PM
Is it true he didn show up to any training sessions or the friendly match either?? Can hardly expect to be picked really
thebooboys
27/10/2011, 6:08 PM
He has been on bench in recent weeks with us due to persistent injury. He's only started 2 in 5 for us. Was on bench against Park at weekend too.
Just a quick note on squad selection. There has been posts since the team was picked about Niall not getting out to watch teams from lower leagues. Remember Southsider saying Casement should have a few on it. Trevor Dunlea was captain for the MSL last night, and played a stormer from what I heard. He started playing with us in pre season. Had he stayed with us or Casement for that matter he wouldnt of been on the AUL team last night.
the ghost
27/10/2011, 9:36 PM
Lads some of ye are basing your own eleven from Niall o Regans starting eleven so i think ye really dont know much more about the AUL league than the Niall himself to be criticising him.
I aint his biggest fan and think the selections on the squad are just wasting some guys time.
theres players all over Cork that would get on the Aul panel out there but ye seem to sticking to the names printed on the echo Wed night.
if your trying to tell me youd play keane in the middle instead of daly and blake would compliment him?? are you serious??
Blake is a top three centre midfielder in the league?? no
The right back got roasted and ye are still putting him in yer team??
Skillington as back-up??
Kearney is everyones first on the team??
Just a Quote on the Echo from the manager: " With Tipperary sitting on three points and A PLUS THREE GOAL MARGIN, the game plan for us is simple to go out and play to our strenghts and get THE REQUIRED RESULT" - really what he was saying was chalk up the goals instead of the three points first and giving the opposition absolutely no respect which clearly along with fellas on here giving 3/4 nil wins rubbed off on the players hence a below par performance!
sharpshooter
27/10/2011, 10:31 PM
"Shetland you go on about fellas not wanting to play for niall - is that a bit like fellas not wanting to play for you? which is why ballyvolane are gone now!!"
fellas dont seem to have a problem with Mellerick so it must have been just you. why dont u take the job and see who plays for you not many id say cause all you always do is slate the team and manager....
shetland
27/10/2011, 11:09 PM
sharpshooter i was waiting for you to surface alright with another bull**** comment.firstly get your facts right about ballyvolane . club folded as it couldnt survive as it was with just one or two trying to run it,and thats a fact. admit one thing i have said for three years o reagan was wrong man for job with two many outside commitments.,have i been proved right.your biased as he keeps picking you and starting you as well/i have slated manager not the players on theese posts.and all i will say to ya is that im not or never will be interested in the job but if i was we wouldnt be looseing to the msl and thats a fact,.how come ive heard through the grapevine that players on this panel didnt know where they stood as reguards wheather they were on panel or not tuesday. they were told it would be on aul web site.nials facebook more like.it was a diaster waiting to happen sharpshooter and it happened on wednesday night.,get over it.
sharpshooter
28/10/2011, 10:32 AM
shetland your first post this season was that you wouldnt beposting this season as you were'nt involved with any club,now can you do everyone a favour and stand by your comment or maybe put some of your time into football(possibly witha second team doing the water i wouldnt insult the good people working with underage)rather than standing behind the ditch talking ******,and when u replied to mario's post you said you'd replace o neil for walsh when o neil was already in the team at least niall o regan knows to start 11 player's rather than 10!!!!
shetland
28/10/2011, 11:18 AM
or i could go glory hunting like you and a leave my local cub.ha ,back niall all you like,you might move to bandon next year with him.,it just shows what your about ,when you cant keep to the topic of the terrible performance of the aul team last wednesday night under niall o reagan. i changed my mind about posting and i will continue to do so when i feel i have something to say.oh i must say it was nice to see my old comrade but one over you in the aoh cup as well.mario i got that one wrong with o neill my apologises.,what ever people say the representive team is a shambles .
the 12 th man
28/10/2011, 11:47 AM
sharpshooter,shetland,I suggest you take this to PM or put each other on your "ignore list" as personal grudges shouldn't be acted out on the forum.
shetland
28/10/2011, 11:56 AM
no bother 12th man will do just that.
sharpshooter
28/10/2011, 11:56 AM
or i could go glory hunting like you and a leave my local cub.ha ,back niall all you like,you might move to bandon next year with him.,it just shows what your about ,when you cant keep to the topic of the terrible performance of the aul team last wednesday night under niall o reagan. i changed my mind about posting and i will continue to do so when i feel i have something to say.oh i must say it was nice to see my old comrade but one over you in the aoh cup as well.mario i got that one wrong with o neill my apologises.,what ever people say the representive team is a shambles .
leave my local club im not from macroom so get your facts right their:pig:.you still have sour grapes over us beating ye to the premier a league title get over it will ya that was two years ago ye just were'nt good enough:p
Shilts
28/10/2011, 12:00 PM
Who'd be the AUL manager???
Very hard to keep all the people happy it seems.
In general Cork AUL rarely compete for the OT Cup.
Why?
Because our players are not good enough!!!
(The ones picked AND the ones not picked)
A few years back we were VERY lucky to win it out.
The players available that year were much better than what is available now. FACT!
I'm thinking of Buckley (Wilton) and Varian and McCarthy (Kinsale) in particular (among others!).
Players of this ability are not available to every manager.
This is why we don't do so well in this tournament - regularly.
I'm sure the manager did his best.
He has been successful with Knockavilla and Bandon and his coaching education is second to none in the AUL.
If anyone thinks that they can do a better job please apply to the AUL with your no doubt excellent CV.
The AUL has a lot of players of a similar standard.
Most standout players John Paul O'Sullivan, Derek Varian etc will be poached by MSL Senior teams.
In most counties there is no senior league so they retain these quality players for their careers.
I didn't see the game on wednesday (my team were training) but sh1t happens sometimes.
A few off the post, one behind the line - it could have been a different sceal.
It was a bad result, but that happens in football.
Maybe we should be beating the MSL but if we did, and then came a cropper against Tipp, the same knives would be out.
Some people have unreasonable expectations.
How far should the Cork AUL get in the OT Cup every year??
shetland
28/10/2011, 12:18 PM
[QUOTE=sharpshooter;1547159]leave my local club im not from macroom so get your facts right their:pig:.you still have sour grapes over us beating ye to the premier a league title get over it will ya that was two years ago ye just were'nt good enough:p[/QUOTEt ]no sour grapes at all there kid none whatsoever.we still got promoted so it really didnt matter.you are gone off topic again.,aul teams performance last wednesday and the whole set up is what this post is all about. i do accecpt your point shilts but a so called experienced and quality coach was found wanting wednesday.look i dont expect the league to win the oscar traynor every year but no disrespect to the msl junior league but they should be beating them.point 1 as i said 442 v 433 wasnt addressed early enough,2 panic move to take peelo out of defence and into midfield after going a goal down.it left defence very exposed and msl could have got a few more.does any one else out there that was at the game feel the same.
shetland
28/10/2011, 12:35 PM
it could happen red and white but i dont think so. st michaels tippeary have most of the team rep tdl .,and i cant see them looseing 3 nill at home. i also dont think its an exaggerated expection for the aul to beat the msl juniors ,they hammered them in blarney last year with a lot of the same faces.the msl looked better organised wednesday night and i hear a lot of the aul panel were unhappy with management and set up and the way it was handled.why not get the clubs submit a person they think would be interested in the job before next agm..and at first meeting of next season pick the manager.why did aul pick oreagan again .was anybody else interested.,maybe the have learned a valueable lesson now.thats it from me as this topic has now run its course i think.
villaman10
28/10/2011, 1:02 PM
in fairness a reality check was badly needed. people go on about here teams in aul being of msl premier standard..i think wed night proved that argument is not even worth discussing..whether it was the best 11 in the aul or not nobody can knock the fact they were 11 decent players week in week out in their own respective league...people on here support the aul and thats great but facts are facts and its more realistic to compare the aul sides with mjl sides as at end of day both playing junior football..wed night proved that once and for all...volume wise and strenght in debth wise the aul is stronger without doubt but top players against top players not much in it....im not for one secong saying oh because the mjl won they are better because football is football and if they played again tomorrow the aul could easily reverse this score...im just saying blaming the manager or slating players is not the answer..they are the ones putting the time and effort in to be as good as they can be so if they fall short of peoples over exaggerated expectations then thats hardly their fault......dont be suprised now to see the aul go and put in a decent performance against tipp and hopefully quieten a few of ye
great post red and white! just because aul were expected to win doesn't mean they can just turn up and go through the motions! people on here seem to totally negate the fact that the msl team had a game plan and stuck to it and won, obviously a bit of luck with the aul hitting the post and missing a few other chances, but you need that to be successful! in my opinion kinsale over the years were the side head and shoulders above every other junior team in cork, maybe leeside as well the year they won the mjc, but other than that the like's of rockmount, douglas hall, everton, mayfield and midleton a few seasons back held no fear of going playing any other of those sides in aul's top tier! would disagree with the strenght in debth point of your'e argument though, aul certainly have more quantity, but the quality apart from the top 4/5 sides is poor in comparision! apart from all that i really do hope that they thrash the tipp side by the goals they need as at the end of the day we all want cork soccer doing well!
shetland
28/10/2011, 1:36 PM
lads ,take a look at the echo tonight ,and it shows you where niall o reagans priorities lie.With bandon of the munster senior league,he speaks of organisation and the way the club is run. pity this wasnt the case with the cork aul side.THE BANDON side have a lot of former kinsale players in their line up and no doubt a few more will be there next season from the cork aul.
freddieflinston
28/10/2011, 1:50 PM
Shetland you strike me as someone who would complain about who the next president of ireland is but didnt vote!As i have said before. You WERE a delegate for Ballyvolane . You had a problem with who is in charge of the AUL league and also who is in charge of the AUL teamDid you avail of your opportunity to do something about it??? NO . you conveniently missed the meeting when the money was missingI agree with Villaman . The MSL juniors had a game plan and stuck to it, They were VASTLY improved since last year and fairplay to them . They had a point to prove and did it.The BANDON side do have a lot of former Kinsale players but werent most of those players from Bandon anyway before they joined Kinsale??The ghost you mention that there are players all over the aul that would get on the panel. Can you name them please????
Kearney
28/10/2011, 4:36 PM
Lads some of ye are basing your own eleven from Niall o Regans starting eleven so i think ye really dont know much more about the AUL league than the Niall himself to be criticising him.
I aint his biggest fan and think the selections on the squad are just wasting some guys time.
theres players all over Cork that would get on the Aul panel out there but ye seem to sticking to the names printed on the echo Wed night.
if your trying to tell me youd play keane in the middle instead of daly and blake would compliment him?? are you serious??
Blake is a top three centre midfielder in the league?? no
The right back got roasted and ye are still putting him in yer team??
Skillington as back-up??
Kearney is everyones first on the team??
Just a Quote on the Echo from the manager: " With Tipperary sitting on three points and A PLUS THREE GOAL MARGIN, the game plan for us is simple to go out and play to our strenghts and get THE REQUIRED RESULT" - really what he was saying was chalk up the goals instead of the three points first and giving the opposition absolutely no respect which clearly along with fellas on here giving 3/4 nil wins rubbed off on the players hence a below par performance!
Were you at the game wednesday Ghost out of interest. Your always very quick to point out what's wrong but have very little to offer in terms of improving things. What would your starting 11 be since your AUL knowledge seems to cover all the leagues.
Southsider
28/10/2011, 6:49 PM
Been off for awhile because i couldnt stick people attacking a mans opinion so il probably have to go in to hiding now again after this....I said a few weeks back that id count on two fingers who would be good enough to play top Senior football from the AUL il take that back and say there is 1 and that guy wont even play with the AUL side these days. Some posters on here would wanna wake up and realise there is no comparision between the AUL and Senior League. I went to watch the MSL V Tipp match and there was a good crew of AUL team players and the manager mad laughing and joking at the game barely even looking at the match itself. I met 1 player from the panel afterwards and he said Tipp would be a tough game but we'll give MSL a good roasting so hopefully it might come down to goal difference if we get a draw in Tipp...Thats the attitude that was brought onto the pitch Wednesday night and it showed.....
Southsider
28/10/2011, 6:56 PM
Your right K.C. he was probably Man of the Match. He won every ball. I agree with you he probably wouldnt get on the team because he's not a so called house hold name in AUL circles and he wouldnt have been playing with 1 of the Big Guns even tho he was on the Oscar panel the year they won it but left over Christmas to play Senior with Avondale. Was Alan Greaney asked out to it can you tell me He's the best striker in the AUL after Derek Mac if you ask me ?
skippy7
28/10/2011, 6:57 PM
i heard i heard do you have any facts shetland?did u play for the aul team before?i was at the game wednesday night and the aul team shoud have been ahead before the msl scored,Jeffers hit the post and the keeper made a good save from holden before the msl scored on the break,if think if the aul had got the first goal they would have won the game comfortably
super_mario
28/10/2011, 9:20 PM
1 good enough to play senior?? Give me a break Derek mac is one, delea an gettings another 2 keegan played senior last year till his team folded, Brian Sull played senior and did perfectly fine up there Stephen daly was with cork city for a while ffs, Alan Greaney another babsy outta blarney St would have no prob with the step up and neither would Crow have a problem playing on goal for any senior team.. NO WAY!! is there one player good enough to go up.
Simple really the expectations are to high, people posting 4 or 5 nil was laughable really, hearing all sorts about preparation and whatever the fact of the matter is 4 or 5 that started weren't up to standard simple really
shetland
28/10/2011, 10:25 PM
skippy i played with the cork aul youths side and the munster youths sides.got called up for senior side once but broke my wrist and wasnt able to play.what i said came from players on the current panel.
shetland
28/10/2011, 10:28 PM
well said mario.i agree that thoose you mentioned would be good enough for senior,
shetland
28/10/2011, 10:36 PM
Shetland you strike me as someone who would complain about who the next president of ireland is but didnt vote!As i have said before. You WERE a delegate for Ballyvolane . You had a problem with who is in charge of the AUL league and also who is in charge of the AUL teamDid you avail of your opportunity to do something about it??? NO . you conveniently missed the meeting when the money was missingI agree with Villaman . The MSL juniors had a game plan and stuck to it, They were VASTLY improved since last year and fairplay to them . They had a point to prove and did it.The BANDON side do have a lot of former Kinsale players but werent most of those players from Bandon anyway before they joined Kinsale??The ghost you mention that there are players all over the aul that would get on the panel. Can you name them please????freddie i was working the night that meeting was held would have been there otherwise.and as villa man said msl had a plan ,the cork aul had one to start but no plan b.it was like eh were in a game here .,this isnt the way the script was written,.cocky .,overconfident comes to mind.
the owl
29/10/2011, 12:57 AM
Easy there Sharp. Your gripe is with Shetland not Ballyvolane.
sharpshooter
29/10/2011, 1:01 AM
well said mario.i agree that thoose you mentioned would be good enough for senior,
you love contradicting yourself don't ya?earlier you wouldnt ave daly in your aul team now ud ave him playing senior wake up ffs.daly would make any team aul or senior....
shetland
29/10/2011, 2:39 AM
daly in his prime would make any team,as was said he played with cork city.why was he over looked last year though.
Southsider
29/10/2011, 9:49 AM
1 good enough to play senior?? Give me a break Derek mac is one, delea an gettings another 2 keegan played senior last year till his team folded, Brian Sull played senior and did perfectly fine up there Stephen daly was with cork city for a while ffs, Alan Greaney another babsy outta blarney St would have no prob with the step up and neither would Crow have a problem playing on goal for any senior team.. NO WAY!! is there one player good enough to go up.
Simple really the expectations are to high, people posting 4 or 5 nil was laughable really, hearing all sorts about preparation and whatever the fact of the matter is 4 or 5 that started weren't up to standard simple reallyMario i said top Senior as in Premier and i dont mean Leeds or Midleton i mean top 5 or 6 teams. Daly WAS a class act hes just stuffed now who thinks the best pass is the long ball all the time i mean Aiden Murray ran the midfield Wednesday night hes playing Junior 1st Division. Daly playing the grade hes suited to now. Babsy,Keegan,Brian Sull,Gettings wouldnt play Senior Premier either. Neither would Crow i mean his kicking is brutal. Greaney and Delea tried and failed Senior Premier dont get me wrong there top AUL strikers but thats it.
Your right in saying 4 or 5 were not up to standard Wednesday hopefully Regan has the balls to change a few of them....
shetland
29/10/2011, 12:04 PM
southsider think you have hit the nail on the head.steve daly is now in the twilight of his career and if given space he will kill you but ive seen him twice this year v killumney and with aul wednesday night,and he gave the ball away to much and he doesnt have the pace to get away from tight markers anymore.we can go over the pros and cons of the aul team all week long but the bottom line is they are not performing under o reagans management set up and havent done since he took over simple as that.you can have all the coaching badges in the world but if you cant get basic tactics right your in dire trouble.
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