Kevin Doyle

[Irish_Praha]

The better for doyle or reading? do you think kevin has shown all he can do and that villa would be the next step up the ladder? both managers are excellent harnessers of talent so no complaints either way club wise, but you seem to be suggesting that doyle is having a michael rickettsesque season and should be cashed in on?? a worrying opinion if so

Kingdom - Pete's opinion is CCFC related. They have a 10% sell on clause so Pete would rather if cork got the 500,000 grand now rather than having to wait until a few more years and get maybe 800,000 or who knows if he lets his contract run out Cork may get nothing or only a fraction of 500,000. A serious injury or loss of form would have the same result.

[kingdom hoop]

ah, i see. apologies for the ignorance of interests, i was thinking his post was a little odd alright, i'll try to look deeper in future. disaster then if he does a matt le tisssier!!

[ger121]

Doyle would not have signed his previous contract extension without the clause. If the clause was 300k or something I don't think would have been so bad. The club has learned from this & played hardball on other top players contracts since. We did at least manage to get 10% sell on clauses into Doyles & Longs contracts.


I was wondering if there was a sell on clause for Doyle. I'm glad they at least got 10% put in to the sale of Doyle. If he does go for 5/6 million that's 500/600 thousand sterling for Cork. Now that has to look like a serious good bit of business in the long run.

[pete]

He was still undersold though and that was shoddy.

As i said already all part of the master investment plan to get value down the line.

Reading won't sell him until they get relegated so looks like will have to wait another 18 months for that cash. :cool:

[NeilMcD]

Did anyone see how serious it was.

[finlma]

replaced by Shane Long. (He sounds Irish).

That's because he is. He's from Tipperary.

Hamstring injury for Doyle apparently

[tricky_colour]

Shanes a Long way from Tipperary :D

[FarBeag]

Hamstring allright.Looks like it could be three to four weeks. Shame.Stokes may get his game after all.

[micls]

Doyle off injured today for Reading at Goodison on 38 mins, replaced by Shane Long. (He sounds Irish).

Yeah Readings amazing scouts spotted him* at one of City's u21 games and were willing to pay 40k for him............

*unfortunately their scout was also our manager

[OwlsFan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/r/reading/6261115.stm

Reading star Doyle faces lay-off

Doyle's goals have helped Reading move into the top half of the table
Reading striker Kevin Doyle will have a scan on a hamstring injury to determine how long he will be out, but boss Steve Coppell is looking on the bright side.

"We have no real history of him being injured so we don't know how his body recovers. We don't think it will be too long, but at this stage we don't know.

"It's in the meat of the muscle so I think it'll be a good couple of weeks," he said after the 1-1 draw at Everton.

Doyle, 23, who has scored 10 goals this season, was injured after 38 minutes.

The Irishman is equal third in the Premiership scoring charts, with Arsenal's Robin van Persie and Yakubu of Middlesbrough, and the trio are behind Didier Drogba and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Chelsea striker Drogba has hit the back of the net 14 times in the league this term, while Ronaldo is on 13 goals.

Goalkeeper Marcus Hahnemann added: "Kevin is a big part of our team so hopefully we can get him back soon."
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Seems like all our top players are going down like flies at the moment. Luckily it's only San Marino who are next up.

[charliesboots]

I think system that facilitated players staying in Ireland until they were 21 would be great. I think then if they had the talent and foreign clubs were prepared to pay the money they good go and at least they would have a Leaving Cert behind them and experience of playing for successful clubs who are playing in Europe season after seaon. They would also be more mature when they go abroad. I think if a system like this could be developed it woudl be good for all concerned.

I agree that a system such as this would be favourable. A huge problem however is our membership of the EU and the free movement of labour between states once citizens satisfy the minimum working age.

Sweden had set up a similar system where players under the age of 18 are not allowed to leave the country to work. That went out the window when they joined the EU in 1995. I think Norway (not EU members) may still operate a similar system though.

[galwayhoop]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/r/reading/6261115.stm

Reading star Doyle faces lay-off

Doyle's goals have helped Reading move into the top half of the table
Reading striker Kevin Doyle will have a scan on a hamstring injury to determine how long he will be out, but boss Steve Coppell is looking on the bright side.

"We have no real history of him being injured so we don't know how his body recovers. We don't think it will be too long, but at this stage we don't know.

"It's in the meat of the muscle so I think it'll be a good couple of weeks," he said after the 1-1 draw at Everton.

Doyle, 23, who has scored 10 goals this season, was injured after 38 minutes.

The Irishman is equal third in the Premiership scoring charts, with Arsenal's Robin van Persie and Yakubu of Middlesbrough, and the trio are behind Didier Drogba and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Chelsea striker Drogba has hit the back of the net 14 times in the league this term, while Ronaldo is on 13 goals.

Goalkeeper Marcus Hahnemann added: "Kevin is a big part of our team so hopefully we can get him back soon."
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Seems like all our top players are going down like flies at the moment. Luckily it's only San Marino who are next up.

i know it's old hat but isn't it great to have an irish lad doing so well in the premier$hip in his first year. 10 goals at this stage is unreal. i remember all the talk about elliot when sunderland went up and he had a nightmare season being injured for most of it and sunderland being useless. hopefully doyle recovers quickly espically for ireland's sake!!

[republicofwhite]

Still think Elliott looked really good when he wasn't injured last year, as in the only Sunderland player capable of doing anything. In Elliott's case 'Nightmare' should only be injury related, at least its not a Jon Stead or Kevin Kyle type nightmare, as in they clearly don't have it. The only good thing thats going to come out of this injury is hopefully Shane Long will get a bit more than just the cameo sub appearances(or being thrown into the Lion's den with a start against Arsenal) If he gets a run of starts and scores a few we're laughing, his talent looks undoubted. His competition is Lita(who I don't rate at all) and Kitson so here's hoping...

[galwayhoop]

i did mean nightmare as in injury/lack of appearences nightmare. and then when he was fit they were so fooked that team morale ...etc was non existant.

hopefully shane long will get a run - altho i think lita and kitson were coppell's first choice at start of last season before doyle made his impact.

you can add jon macken to that list of yours republic!

[kingdom hoop]

not too sure about long just yet. he looks light in stature and doesnt seem to have searing pace or distinguishing technical ability to compensate against the aggresive premiership defences. there is definitely talent but from seeing him a few times he could do with bulking up. interestingly he probably will start a few games now though cos i dont think kitson is quite fit yet...every cloud has a silver lining, but then again..unfortunately for cork city very unlikely doyler will be sold now, sorry pete!

[youngirish]

not too sure about long just yet. he looks light in stature and doesnt seem to have searing pace or distinguishing technical ability to compensate against the aggresive premiership defences. there is definitely talent but from seeing him a few times he could do with bulking up. interestingly he probably will start a few games now though cos i dont think kitson is quite fit yet...every cloud has a silver lining, but then again..unfortunately for cork city very unlikely doyler will be sold now, sorry pete!
You obviously haven't seen too much of him. He's lightning quick for a start and seems to me to be fairly strong. His pace is his greatest asset. Have a look at the reading fans forum (hob nob). They'll agree 100%.

[republicofwhite]

Considering he's just turned 19, he looks pretty beasty enough already... His finishing is quality, he scored two hat tricks in a row in the reserves against Chelsea and Arsenal I think, if your only just 19 and absolutely taking the mickey in reserves, I think thats a very good sign. Both his goals in the first team this year were extremely well taken as well. He just needs some solid game time first to properly get used to life in the Premiership. Coppell said that when he arrived over first, that he was one of the most naturally talented sportsmen he'd ever seen, the hurling will pay testament to that. Cheers Galway, Jon Macken was probably the best example I could have found!

[JimmyP]

Doyle will be out for a maximum of 4 weeks, apparently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/r/reading/6261115.stm

[tetsujin1979]

According to the (English) Independent it could happen: http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premier-league/article3298434.ece
8 million sounds about right for Doyle, and it would be hard for Reading to turn down that kind of money, but would he stay in the team when Drogba returns from the African Cup of Nations? Would he just become the next Scott Parker or Scott Sinclair?

[ramsfan]

morechance of him joining boro, sunderland or maybe everton, wouldnt see him have a lot of chances in the chelsea team end up astiff like sidwell which would be a disaster for ireland

[Bondvillain]

8 million sounds about right for Doyle, Yes it does.
and it would be hard for Reading to turn down that kind of money Yes it would.
but would he stay in the team when Drogba returns from the African Cup of Nations? No he wouldn't.
Would he just become the next Scott Parker or Scott Sinclair? Yes he would, if he were even that fondly remembered.

[superfrank]

Scott Sinclair is only 18???

He's one for the future, hence why he's not playing all the time.

If Doyle's moving he should go up the league, not down. Sunderland and Boro are both struggling this year and if he went he could end up back in the Championship very quickly.

He can do better than Reading, Boro or Sunderland. Don't think he'd get much of a chance at Everton with Yakubu and Johnson. Maybe Newcastle.

[tetsujin1979]

Scott Sinclair is only 18???
Sorry, meant Steve "the new Scott Parker" Sidwell, don't know what made me think of Sinclair

[bellavistaman]

I reckon aston villa or spurs(only if berbatov leaves btw) would be very good moves. Surely doyle has more cop on and is more level headed to move to chelsea

[micls]

Sell him!

[Buller]

Sell him!

I take it Cork have a sell on-clause?!

[micls]

I take it Cork have a sell on-clause?!

10% :cool:

[Lionel Ritchie]

would be pleasantly though cautiously surprised ...especially as, again if you can believe the papers, Avram Grant is also after Nicholas Anelka.

If he IS after Anelka he'll surely get him.

[shakermaker1982]

Doyle should keep clear of Chelski - he needs a club that would nurture his talent and not expect instant returns. If he couldn't deliver he'd be dropped like a stone. Sidwell is rotting away (despite a start today) and we need Doyle to be playing week in week out.

[tricky_colour]

10% :cool:

Which would amount to ten times more than they originally sold
him for, if my figures are correct, £78,000 and £8,000,000.

[tricky_colour]

He might end up warming the bench there, as Keane currently is at Spurs v Villa right now.

[tetsujin1979]

Probably just rested after the christmas games, he hasn't been a sub since early november

[gufcfan]

10% :cool:

Christ so if he went for 8 million quid, cork would get... on today's exchange rate... €1,086,775.

Very nice payday indeed.

[tricky_colour]

Probably just rested after the christmas games, he hasn't been a sub since early november

He's just came on, unsurprisingly as Spurs are 1:0 down.

[joema]

Id say Keane is just dropped tbh. I was at the Spurs v Reading game at the weekend and he had a very poor game, Defoe came on and did very well, simple as that id say.

[irishfan86]

Id say Keane is just dropped tbh. I was at the Spurs v Reading game at the weekend and he had a very poor game, Defoe came on and did very well, simple as that id say.

I don't think he did that badly, set up one of Berbatov's goal, sure he missed a penalty but it was more a good save than anything.

As for Doyle, a bit surprised he's linked with Chelsea....surely can't be worse than Shevchenko though :D

[tricky_colour]

I don't think he did that badly, set up one of Berbatov's goal, sure he missed a penalty but it was more a good save than anything.

As for Doyle, a bit surprised he's linked with Chelsea....surely can't be worse than Shevchenko though :D

Apparently Chelsea are also interested in Berbatov for £25 million+, flattering that Chelsea are interested, but he might only get a game if there is a flu outbreak at Chelsea :D
Having said that he is a different type of player, I can't recall Berbatov ever scoring a goal with his head, Drogba too although no doubt they have, can't recall Chavchenko scoring many goals full stop. :D
Actuall Doyle and Drogba are both on 5 and Chavchenko is on 4 so who knows?
Trouble is Chelsea can afford to have good players languishing in the reserves which is probably not what Doyle nor Ireland want.

[superfrank]

Apparently Chelsea are also interested in Berbatov for £25 million+, flattering that Chelsea are interested, but he might only get a game if there is a flu outbreak at Chelsea :D
I would like to see Doyle at Chelsea. He is a very good striker but he would definitely be frustrated by the lack of first-team opportunities. He'd probably get a look in over the next few weeks with Drogba and Kalou in Ghana but if he didn't impress then, he'll be on the bench soon enough.

Having said that he is a different type of player, I can't recall Berbatov ever scoring a goal with his head, Drogba too although no doubt they have, can't recall Shevchenko scoring many goals full stop. :D
For the record, Drogba and Shevchenko have both scored with their head this season.

Actuall Doyle and Drogba are both on 5 and Shevchenko is on 4 so who knows? Trouble is Chelsea can afford to have good players languishing in the reserves which is probably not what Doyle nor Ireland want.
Kalou also has 5 this year. He is another player that would be ahead of Doyle in my eyes. Chelsea are a top team and they need a striker who'll score goals consistently. Drogba can do it, Kalou can come off the bench and score. If Doyle didn't start scoring immediately, he'd left out of the team. If he's a money player, he can go to Chelsea but if he's in it with the heart he should go somewhere where he'll be one of the top strikers and he'll be let get on with the job.

[fergalr]

It's not a bad prospect, if Doyle has the ambition I think he should go for it
Not sure about whether there is any substance behind this story but Doyle is the type of player who could really thrive at a top club.

We need as many players as possible playing for Champions League teams. Any Irish player with self-confidence and ambition should jump at the chance of moving to Chelsea.

[AustinoAsprilla]

Of course he should move to a better team if the opportunity presents itself but I don't think that Chelsea will be in for him.

Would thrive on the amount of chances they create as he is a great finisher but hasn't got the pace to make it as a top player. Not at one of the big four anyway. He hasn't got enough all round to compensate for his lack of pace.

[Stuttgart88]

I think Doyle would do well at United, less so at Chelsea.

[AustinoAsprilla]

Well, over 6 yards they are all a lot faster than Doyle and a lot of Chelseas chances are created by balls into the box that need this quickness and I don't think he has that.

If a chance falls at his feet he will probably score but if he is being marked or is asked to react quickly then I don't think he has the pace to get into those positions that all of Chelsea's forwards have.

Plus as I said his all round game is nothing compared to those three who compensate their lack of "lightning pace" with superb strength, skill and intelligence.

[passinginterest]

I think Doyle would do well at United, less so at Chelsea.

I believe that when he was home during the summer he said his intention was to play another full season with Reading and then move to Manchester United (obviously no official source for this, just a strong rumour from people close to him).

I'd say he'd be more likely to get a chance at United than Chelsea and on current playing style he'd fit better in the United system. I'd love to see him get a chance at one of the big clubs, but, at this stage of his career it'd be a disaster for him to get stuck in the reserves.

[blackholesun]

10% :cool:

Tell em to make the cheque out to ...

ARKGAGA Hedge Fund Fats Cats,
IFSC,
Dublin.

;)

bhs

[jbyrne]

He might end up warming the bench there, as Keane currently is at Spurs v Villa right now.

nothing more than giving him a rest. was the most prolific premier lge scorer in calendar year 2007. not too bad really and certainly better than defoe

[GavinZac]

Tell em to make the cheque out to ...

ARKGAGA Hedge Fund Fats Cats,
IFSC,
Dublin.

;)

bhs
You don't quite understand investiture do you?

Anyway, if it were being paid directly to Arkaga one would assume they'd save the hassle of currency conversion and have it paid direct to the London office.

[Ordinary Fan]

If the offer is for real he should take it, even if he is stuck in the reserves for two years he will be made for life and can move on to another club.
Doyle is a very clever and brave player and I think he would develop more with good players around him and could make as part of a squad rotation policy.

[cavan_fan]

I know this is sacrilege but I'm never really convinced by Doyle, I want to be and sometimes I see it in flashes but I'm not sure the quality is there. Can someone convince me I'm wrong (as I'd like to be)

[Torn-Ado]

Doyle is not good enough for Chelsea. He'd be permanent fixture on the bench.

I seen Spurs were usggested too. Now that would be awful. Keane and Doyle up front together are a disaster.

[Hibernian]

Just cant see Chelsea buying him although I think it could prove to be great move for him in the long run