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jmurphyc
11/02/2008, 3:14 PM
What about Spurs fans - I dont think they'd have the same opinion?
He wasn't really given enough time at Tottenham. I didn't see too much of him there but from what I hear I thought he was a good prospect there but he wanted to move to get more first team action.
BigmanCas
11/02/2008, 3:25 PM
He is a walking liability IMO!!
gustavo
11/02/2008, 3:27 PM
I would beg Stevie Finnan to reconsider and tell him that he will play right back. Foley at wolves as reserve. I am sorry if I sound subjective. O Dea at left back?
I wouldn't beg someone to come back after they have decided to retire
dr_peepee
11/02/2008, 4:05 PM
Agreed.
You would!!!!;)
I see what you're saying and do agree. We do need someone to take the ball from the back four. I think Keano has signed him with that kind of role in mind too. But I worry about him playing too deep as he has a tendancy to give away free's in dangerous areas, esp as the game goes on. I've seen it a few times for Ireland and Charlton, but never seen the teams punished for it, which I think is why it's not highlighted. Watch out for it and you'll see what I mean. He was playing more advanced in a midfeild 5 for charlton last year in the premiership and played very well.
I'm sure a happy medium can be arranged!!!
Torn-Ado
11/02/2008, 4:11 PM
doyle and keane upfront as long as we are playing 4-4-2
Keane and Doyle up front together is horrible and has been for quite some time now.
tetsujin1979
11/02/2008, 4:14 PM
Keane and Doyle up front together is horrible and has been for quite some time now.
What's the alternative?
Stuttgart88
11/02/2008, 4:14 PM
I posted this y'day on another thread. I liked eirebhoy's XI posted in response.
I'm becoming more and more convinced that 4-3-3 is what'll work best for us right now.
Kelly / J. O'Brien - Dunne - O'Shea - Kilbane
Reid - Reid - Hunt
McGeady - Keane - Duff
I deliberately avoided specifying which Reid as in principle each could do well in the middle or the right of that 3.
Assuming at least one Reid is injured (fairly certain) then options include Liam Lawrence and J. O'Brien for the RHM spot, Carsley or Delap for the CM spot). If either McGeady or Duff is injured or off form, Hunt could play left sided forward, allowing maybe Garvan or Stephen Quinn to play left sided midfield.
The front 3 is a bit like United's front 3 - good, clever attacking players who can improvise.
Jon Walters is even an option for the right sided forward as cover.
Advantages: numbers and bite in midfield, good ball users too. Mobility and direct running upfront. This shape and personnel will allow ius to take more control of a game and it allows us to have more of our good players on the pitch. It also doesn't place much pressure on inexperienced kids coming through, and if they're needed it'd be in a stronger shape where they'd fit in easier. Their time may come during the campaign anyway. The 4th game is over a year away.
Doyle, Morrison, Murphy, Carsley, St. Ledger on the bench, plus one or two others.
jmurphyc
11/02/2008, 4:14 PM
Keane and Doyle up front together is horrible and has been for quite some time now.
I've seen moments where it looks like it can work. Remember, the only time they played together was under Staunton - if Trapattoni gets the job I think he'll be able to evaluate whether it can work or not and if he feels it can he'll work out a way of using them as the front two. Also, as has been mentioned on contless occasions before they didn't have enough supply from the midfield and were often completely isolated up front, which is why Keane was dropping back so much. If we can keep a fit squad in the next campaign then I think they can form a good partnership.
OwlsFan
30/08/2008, 5:11 PM
At last some goals for Doyle (a hat trick no less). Has come just at the right time please God.
irishultra
30/08/2008, 6:10 PM
Just delighted....so so happy....if he stays with Reading he could grab 30 goals this season.......
He's the best striker with James Beattie in the division...
He's class.....
shakermaker1982
30/08/2008, 6:15 PM
should do his confidence the world of good. Hopefully Keane grabs a couple tomorrow (but with Liverpool losing :) ).
Wexford Delboy
30/08/2008, 7:11 PM
Keane and Doyle up front together is horrible and has been for quite some time now.
if keane passed it to doyle then maybe there would be a chance of a partnership
Noelys Guitar
30/08/2008, 7:44 PM
Doyle has been playing well without scoring. I thought he was excellent against Columbia. He had a good game for Reading against Forest. And now he is one of the top scorers in the championship. Timing could not be better for us
I posted this y'day on another thread. I liked eirebhoy's XI posted in response.
I'm becoming more and more convinced that 4-3-3 is what'll work best for us right now.
Kelly / J. O'Brien - Dunne - O'Shea - Kilbane
Reid - Reid - Hunt
McGeady - Keane - Duff
I deliberately avoided specifying which Reid as in principle each could do well in the middle or the right of that 3.
Assuming at least one Reid is injured (fairly certain) then options include Liam Lawrence and J. O'Brien for the RHM spot, Carsley or Delap for the CM spot). If either McGeady or Duff is injured or off form, Hunt could play left sided forward, allowing maybe Garvan or Stephen Quinn to play left sided midfield.
The front 3 is a bit like United's front 3 - good, clever attacking players who can improvise.
Jon Walters is even an option for the right sided forward as cover.
Advantages: numbers and bite in midfield, good ball users too. Mobility and direct running upfront. This shape and personnel will allow ius to take more control of a game and it allows us to have more of our good players on the pitch. It also doesn't place much pressure on inexperienced kids coming through, and if they're needed it'd be in a stronger shape where they'd fit in easier. Their time may come during the campaign anyway. The 4th game is over a year away.
Doyle, Morrison, Murphy, Carsley, St. Ledger on the bench, plus one or two others.
Just saw the suggested 4-3-3 above....and I like it :)
tetsujin1979
15/10/2008, 9:11 AM
Doyle to Villa rumours resurface: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/15/liverpool-milan-gourcuff-rumourmill
The problem with Kevin Doyle is that he looks far too sharp for the Championship and will be on his way to Aston Villa before you can say "£7m in the transfer window", provided you say it very slowly. Villa will raise a bit of money by selling Marlon Harewood to Stoke for £3.5m.
Razors left peg
06/11/2008, 4:33 PM
Kevin Doyle has signed a contract extension with Reading. Very surprised, thought he would be leaving in January
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/1106/doylek.html
centre mid
06/11/2008, 5:53 PM
Probably better off at Reading, they should come straight back up and banging goals is obviously doing his confidence a world of good. He had a very good game against Cyprus last month. He suffered, I thought, last year as Reading struggled.
boovidge
06/11/2008, 7:48 PM
better having a player banging in goals in the championship than losing confidence in the prem.
co. down green
06/11/2008, 8:15 PM
better having a player banging in goals in the championship than losing confidence in the prem.
Agreed, he's been on top form for Reading in the Championship so far this season and the renewed confidence is showing when he pulls on the Green shirt.
As regards contracts and wasting his ability at Reading, if a club is willing to pay big bucks for a player, contracts matter little these days.
Personally i'm happy to see him scoring regularly and enjoying his football at Reading at the moment, as it benefits Ireland.
Doyle's level is unquestionably in the top tier however, he's wasting his ability by not moving.
He's a lower level premiership to top level championship player. Would he really be better off with Middlesbrough or West Brom?
tetsujin1979
06/11/2008, 9:42 PM
He's a lower level premiership to top level championship player. Would he really be better off with Middlesbrough or West Brom?
Are Reading better off battling for promotion in the Championship, or battling Middlesbrough and West Brom for lower level Premiership survival?
John83
06/11/2008, 10:08 PM
This news will kill the mood in a few laundrettes in Cork. ;)
back of the net
06/11/2008, 10:46 PM
Kevin Doyle has signed a contract extension with Reading. Very surprised, thought he would be leaving in January
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/1106/doylek.html
wouldnt read anything into it razor...come january and if he is still banging in the goals and playing well...it wont stop the reported clubs that are interested in him(villa,spurs,etc) makin bids for him
he is a proven international and prem player...he will be a bigger club not b4 long...im sure of it
Colbert Report
07/11/2008, 2:07 AM
Reading look like they'll go straight back up. If they can get Sidwell back they might have a chance next season.
Lenny82
07/11/2008, 7:49 AM
Kevin Doyle is not stupid and I'm sure his agent isn't either. There is bound to be a clause in his new contract allowing him to talk to other clubs if Reading fail to get promoted this season!! Unlike Hunt, I'd imagine Doyle will be loyal to Reading and not go anywhere in January!!
gustavo
07/11/2008, 8:53 AM
Just means that Reading can secure a higher price for him in January
OwlsFan
07/11/2008, 9:19 AM
I see Doyle has signed an extension to his contract with Reading. Doesn't mean he won't be snapped up in the January sales. Just means Reading have secured the rights to money if he does go. No big deal.
OwlsFan
01/12/2008, 2:58 PM
Wait for all the rumours linking him with every team in the Premiership.......
Noelys Guitar
20/12/2008, 1:56 PM
MOM today against Birmingham. Class peformance. Scored Reading's second goal and put in a fantastic cross for Reading's third goal. I expect to see him lining up for Aston Villa in the new year.
irishultra
20/12/2008, 2:11 PM
Doyle is a true quality player and a great testament to himself and the League here.
He is easily a 10 million pound player, his finish for the second goal was just sublime, and his cross for Cisse's goal was excellent.
A proper quality player and we are lucky we have him.
Also S.Hunt's delivery for that goal was brilliant.
MOM today against Birmingham. Class peformance. Scored Reading's second goal and put in a fantastic cross for Reading's third goal. I expect to see him lining up for Aston Villa in the new year.
Everton are very interested, so there will be a bidding war. Not sure which would be best as he'd be guaranteed his place at Everton but not so at Villa.
Razors left peg
21/12/2008, 12:28 AM
Everton are very interested, so there will be a bidding war. Not sure which would be best as he'd be guaranteed his place at Everton but not so at Villa.
Doyler is good enough for most teams in the Premiership, hes better than anyone at Villa and I rate them hightly. I just think he is top class
richieos
21/12/2008, 12:46 AM
doyle is irelands star outfield player in my opinion. he contributes the most to the team other than shay, dunne runs him close though
irishultra
21/12/2008, 2:08 AM
Doyler is good enough for most teams in the Premiership, hes better than anyone at Villa and I rate them hightly. I just think he is top class
He's a better version of Bendtner, a much better version. Imagine doyle with arsenal?:eek: MABY the level would be a step too high but he'd be animal there
The Fly
21/12/2008, 4:25 AM
I am also a big admirer of Doyle and hope he gets a well deserved return to the premiership, but I do think some on here are overstating his ability.
irishultra
21/12/2008, 4:46 AM
nah he does have his limitations, for example he's not the most unpredictable or innovative of players but what he is good at is bringing people into play, running the channels, drawing fouls, scoring goals(something the much lauded heskey cant even do on form) and works hard for the team.
He is our version of Roman Pavlyuchenko.
The Fly
21/12/2008, 5:02 AM
irishultra - I agree with much of what you say. I just think that people saying he should play for Villa, being better than anyone there, or even perhaps at Arsenal is pushing it a bit.
irishultra
21/12/2008, 5:29 AM
oh ye when i say
doyle at arsenal thats coming from an irish perspective, i'm sure arsenal could attract a much higher calibre(no disrespect to doyle) to their club but still I do think if Doyle was playing for arsenal he would be a revelation and bang in many goals. Would Wenger buy him? Definetly not. I could have seen Ferguson taking a punt on him if he was short of strikers, but needless to say they are full in that department.
The Fly
21/12/2008, 5:38 AM
Fair enough.
OwlsFan
21/12/2008, 9:39 AM
As a matter of interest, how many goals did he score in his season in the Premiership? 6 in 36 appearances I think so let's not get carried away.
Razors left peg
21/12/2008, 10:38 AM
As a matter of interest, how many goals did he score in his season in the Premiership? 6 in 36 appearances I think so let's not get carried away.
in fairness last season he was in a team that was playing poorly and he was pushed out to the wing alot. Im judging him on his Ireland performances. He holds the ball up so well and for a lad that isnt particularly tall he is rarely beaten in the air. I just think he needs to move to a club that will make himself push on to be an even better player.
elroy
21/12/2008, 10:58 AM
irishultra - I agree with much of what you say. I just think that people saying he should play for Villa, being better than anyone there, or even perhaps at Arsenal is pushing it a bit.
I think Agbonlahor is probably a better overall player than Doyle.
irishultra
21/12/2008, 12:27 PM
How?
He's not that good but what he does have is one world class attribute; pace. Doyle doesnt have any stand out features but his all round game is better IMO.
Carew is probably better than Doyle at this time but Doyle is younger and could develop at the right club.
The Fly
21/12/2008, 12:38 PM
Agbonlahor is a better goalscorer as well.
Reading won't see Doyle unless he wants to leave. Unless it is a massive bid they won't sell in January as their chances of promotion will evaporate without him. If they get promoted he will stay, if they don't get promoted he will be sold in the summer.
eirebhoy
21/12/2008, 5:46 PM
As a matter of interest, how many goals did he score in his season in the Premiership? 6 in 36 appearances I think so let's not get carried away.
He had 2 seasons in the premiership. 13 goals in his first.
Noelys Guitar
31/12/2008, 2:15 PM
Newcastle are about to bid 10 mil for Doyler according to Radio 5. I would not be surprised to see Newcastle bid for Stephen Hunt as well.
tricky_colour
31/12/2008, 4:15 PM
Newcastle are about to bid 10 mil for Doyler according to Radio 5. I would not be surprised to see Newcastle bid for Stephen Hunt as well.
Well it would be a bit funny if they moved and Reading were promoted and Newcastle were relegated :D
kingdomkerry
31/12/2008, 6:47 PM
Newcastle are about to bid 10 mil for Doyler according to Radio 5. I would not be surprised to see Newcastle bid for Stephen Hunt as well.
Cork City would be sick. That would of got them stg£1,000,000 rather than the €200,000 that they took.
DmanDmythDledge
31/12/2008, 6:53 PM
Cork City would be sick. That would of got them stg£1,000,000 rather than the €200,000 that they took.
They didn't have a choice at the time because they needed the money urgently.
Hope Doyle stays away from Newcastle, although he would probably be a first team regular which won't be the case at the other clubs he has been linked with.
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