Kevin Doyle

[Keen2win]

Think it could be a possible good move for Chelsea.

[irishfan86]

I know this is sacrilege but I'm never really convinced by Doyle, I want to be and sometimes I see it in flashes but I'm not sure the quality is there. Can someone convince me I'm wrong (as I'd like to be)

I used to be the same way with him, but just when you start to think he's **** he'll score a goal like he did against Slovakia.

Remember, that was at the peak of a cold streak, and he had the ambition to take that kind of shot after not scoring in ages.

I said to myself then this guy's the real deal.

He's got talent and unmatched desire....if he's given a fair chance at Chelsea he'll make it.

[eirebhoy]

The last time I saw him play was against Liverpool last month and he was terrific.

[elroy]

Doyle has been used on the wing a number of times for Reading this season, for a variety of reasons and he has performed quite well there. This is partly the reason why he hasnt got as many goals this season. I think Doyle may be the more skillful player but Keane is def the better finisher imo.

[lionelhutz]

Scott Sinclair is only 18???

He's one for the future, hence why he's not playing all the time.

If Doyle's moving he should go up the league, not down. Sunderland and Boro are both struggling this year and if he went he could end up back in the Championship very quickly.

He can do better than Reading, Boro or Sunderland. Don't think he'd get much of a chance at Everton with Yakubu and Johnson. Maybe Newcastle.

Don't think he'd have much of a chance with Newcastle either with Owen, Martins and Viduka

[lionelhutz]

Doyle has been used on the wing a number of times for Reading this season, for a variety of reasons and he has performed quite well there. This is partly the reason why he hasnt got as many goals this season. I think Doyle may be the more skillful player but Keane is def the better finisher imo.

I'd have to say the complete opposite. In terms of vision, touch and all round skill, I'd have to say Keane is streets ahead of Doyle but if you asked who I'd want one on one with the keeper it would have to be Doyle

[Dr. Ogba]

I'd have to say the complete opposite. In terms of vision, touch and all round skill, I'd have to say Keane is streets ahead of Doyle but if you asked who I'd want one on one with the keeper it would have to be Doyle

what he said

[livehead1]

Doyle has been used on the wing a number of times for Reading this season, for a variety of reasons and he has performed quite well there. This is partly the reason why he hasnt got as many goals this season. I think Doyle may be the more skillful player but Keane is def the better finisher imo.

Doyle the more skilfull and Keane the better finisher?
Let me just point to Doyle v Slovakia, bangs one in from 25 yards in terrible condidions and then secondly to Keane V Germany, one on one with Lehmann and pops it into the air.

Keanes clearly more skilfull but Doyle is a far far better finished than Keane

[NeilMcD]

I would rather look at their goals per game ratio on the Premiership, Keane is a better finisher and a more skilfull but Doyle is a great player too.

[Dr. Ogba]

I would rather look at their goals per game ratio on the Premiership, Keane is a better finisher and a more skilfull but Doyle is a great player too.

The thing is that Keane gets into the right positions all the time but I've never ever been convinced by his finishing in one-on-one situations.....see Germany at home where he tried to lob Lehmann as an ideal example.

If Doyle had Keane's positional sense I think he'd be lethal...

[livehead1]

Neil, the style of Spurs play and the attacking flair players they have ensure that many more chances are presented to Keane than to Doyle. I wonder what there respective percentage rates are with regards to shots/goals.

According to opta Robbie Keane's Conversion rate (22%) is behind only Nicholas Anelka (25%) Not sure what Doyle's is

[jbyrne]

doyle and keane are both top quality and it will be up to our next manager to get them working together as a unit. would rather have a big quinn type player up front with one or other of them but we dont so we will have to get these two firing together.

havent seen a huge amt of doyle this season but what i have seen has impressed me. chelsea would be a bad move to me and he should stay at reading

[NeilMcD]

I must say that Keane and Doyle were very good together in Cardiff, they worked as a pair. This was due in my opinion to Don Givens working with them in training. Just goes to show that Staunton did not do anything in the training sessions.

[passinginterest]

I must say that Keane and Doyle were very good together in Cardiff, they worked as a pair. This was due in my opinion to Don Givens working with them in training. Just goes to show that Staunton did not do anything in the training sessions.

How dare you! I'm almost certain he put the cones out...

[ramsfan]

im the gaffer , im the boss and my cone layout techniques are nothing to be laughed at, took me years at walsall to figure it out:D

[Deckydee]

Scott Sinclair is only 18???

He's one for the future, hence why he's not playing all the time.

If Doyle's moving he should go up the league, not down. Sunderland and Boro are both struggling this year and if he went he could end up back in the Championship very quickly.

He can do better than Reading, Boro or Sunderland. Don't think he'd get much of a chance at Everton with Yakubu and Johnson. Maybe Newcastle.

Scott Sinclair was on loan at a club i support recently. he is a lazy bugger

[ramsfan]

doyle to villa, could it happen sky sports have reported it, maybe wouldnt be such a bad move, martin oneill would help him and villa are a team on the up, look solid, just need a goalscorer.

[paul_oshea]

colin doyle? michael doyle? billy doyle*?

*I doubt the local shop owner at home is on his way to villa, but you never know.

[citizenerased]

Paul your a horrid cynic, no need to be a sarky git the whole time.

[Stuttgart88]

Saw that rumour from The Telegraph. Guardian says Villa is looking at Defoe.

I think Doyle plays very similarly to Larsson and would do well under O'Neill. He's building a decent side at Villa, but would he be an automatic starter with Carew and Agbonlahor there?

[citizenerased]

id say a manager like O'Neill would get the best out of Doyle..Id like to see him there..for me carew is a spent force, both yooung and agbonlathor arent goalscorers, doyle would be a perfect centre forward in a three pronged attack of Young, Doyle, Agbonlathor

[as_i_say]

Would rather a move to villa than chelsea.. hasnt been a quality irishman there since the heady townsend houghton stan mcgrath and erm cascarino days

[Sligo Hornet]

If it happens I think it would be an ideal move for both Doyle and Villa.As stated by others, O'Neil is a good manager and is slowly getting a good team together.Kevin would flourish, particularly with his great heading ability at the end of good crosses from Ashley Young.......and We would obviously benefit from Doyle's progression:)

[irishfan86]

I wouldn't mind this, he's definitely good enough to play for Villa, and it would hopefully mean a chance for Long to establish himself as a Reading starter.

That said, I'd be happy enough if he stayed with Reading.

[eirebhoy]

It'd certainly be a good move for him. Lita and Kitson are probably better than what Villa have up front, never mind Doyle.

I see Man City are linked with Podolski for a reported price of €15m. imo Doyle's just as good and I'd love to see him play for a team like City. He'd be playing as a lone striker in a very creative team and it would at least give us a bit of variety away from the 4-4-2.

[Juanace]

I think Doyle plays very similarly to Larsson and would do well under O'Neill. He's building a decent side at Villa, but would he be an automatic starter with Carew and Agbonlahor there?


As a Villa supporter it would be great to have an Irishman in the team again. I reckon he would start. I like Carew but he seems injury prone and never lasts to full 90 minutes. Agbonlahor is a wide player for Villa. Himself and Young play either side of Carew - 4-3-3 / 4-5-1. Its a formation that works but i'd like another striker added to the mix, maybe leave out a central midfield player, i.e. Petrov whose been very poor for Villa.

[geysir]

Yes Carew sucks.
He certainly sucked Richard Dunne silly 3 or 4 weeks ago and generally regarded to have won that battle.
Carew is a first choice, a fans favourite and a quintessential line leader.

At best Doyle would be used to replace the oft injured Carew.

[DotTV]

The thing is that Keane gets into the right positions all the time but I've never ever been convinced by his finishing in one-on-one situations.....see Germany at home where he tried to lob Lehmann as an ideal example.

If Doyle had Keane's positional sense I think he'd be lethal...

June 5th 2002 Ibaraki

[Dr. Ogba]

June 5th 2002 Ibaraki

...yes?

[Stuttgart88]

Ibaraki was a chance he took in an instant - purely instinctive. He had more time to think against Lehmann, and that's where Robbie is less than convincing. Fine player mind you and a very impressive goalscorer. One on one's and headers aren't his best skills though his finish in Cardiff was superb.

Just on that point: has anyone noticed Eduardo's goals for Arsenal recently? Now that's composure in a one on one situation.

[Sligo Hornet]

Ibaraki was a chance he took in an instant - purely instinctive. He had more time to think against Lehmann, and that's where Robbie is less than convincing. Fine player mind you and a very impressive goalscorer. One on one's and headers aren't his best skills though his finish in Cardiff was superb.

Just on that point: has anyone noticed Eduardo's goals for Arsenal recently? Now that's composure in a one on one situation.

Totally agree Stutts....sadly, I don't think he has any Irish grandparents:(

[Drumcondra 69er]

Just on that point: has anyone noticed Eduardo's goals for Arsenal recently? Now that's composure in a one on one situation.

Yeah, very very impresssive. Ice in his veins as the cliche goes, composed beyond belief.

[NeilMcD]

Ibaraki was a chance he took in an instant - purely instinctive. He had more time to think against Lehmann, and that's where Robbie is less than convincing. Fine player mind you and a very impressive goalscorer. One on one's and headers aren't his best skills though his finish in Cardiff was superb.

Just on that point: has anyone noticed Eduardo's goals for Arsenal recently? Now that's composure in a one on one situation.

Totally agree Stutts....sadly, I don't think he has any Irish grandparents:(

Did not have any croatian ones either. Another good reason to have a strong league here in Ireland.

[elroy]

[QUOTE=Sligo Hornet;849437]

Did not have any croatian ones either. Another good reason to have a strong league here in Ireland.

What?? Am i missing something here. how did he qualified for them - just through citzenship??

[Drumcondra 69er]

[QUOTE=NeilMcD;849541]

What?? Am i missing something here. how did he qualified for them - just through citzenship??

Yep, played football there for 2 years so qualified under FIFA's residency clause. He's borna and bred Brazilian.

[DotTV]

...yes?

That's something similar to what I said at the time. You can replace the question mark with a bunch of exclamations

[Dr. Ogba]

That's something similar to what I said at the time. You can replace the question mark with a bunch of exclamations

:D

same here....mine was along the lines of "yessss!! what a great one-on one finish by Keano which is very surprising as I've never rated Robbie as a great finisher at all....bloody fantastic!!!"

[Theskinloyal]

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3039762,00.html

Takers?

Personally I think he'd suit Man Yoo more than anyone. I'd love to know if Chelsea were sniffing around him, it would have been stupid of him to go there.

I think more Irish players should look to playing in continental europe, we'd benefit more from it with the contrast in styles. Having every player based in England and Scotland means most end up playing the same way and teams coming to play us approach us as if we were a British team.

Having said all that there still should be more LOI players involved in the Irish set up....

[Philly]

Doyle hasn't been great this season and I would say if he was to move, it would be Aston Villa or Everton type clubs he would be wanted by, not Chelsea or Manchester United.

[tetsujin1979]

From today's daily mirror (yeah, I know): http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/01/12/moore-is-villa-bait-for-doyle-89520-20282571/

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill could use striker Luke Moore as bait to lure Kevin Doyle from Reading.
More in the link

[superfrank]

He won't be going to Chelsea after Anelka joining.

I doubt he'd get much time at Man U, if he joined. Tevez and Rooney are the two first choice strikers, there's no way he'll oust either of them. Even getting ahead of Louis Saha would be difficult.

At his age, he needs to be playing week in, week out. I'd go with Villa. They only have one real out and out striker in Carew. Luke Moore isn't up to the Premiership from what I've seen of him.

Everton have Yakubu, Johnson and two promising young lads in Anichebe and Vaughan and they tend to go 4-5-1 anyway.

[Pablo]

the 10% sell on clause will do us nicely thanks very much

[Torn-Ado]

Another guy who would be better off staying where he is.

[livehead1]

Having said all that there still should be more LOI players involved in the Irish set up....

Why? Some of the better players in the EL have moved to England/Scotland recently. Flynn, Bennett, O'Callaghan, Murphy to name a few and have failed to succeed. If there not good enough for club football in a good/average league what use are they going to be at international level?

[viagogo]

Another guy who would be better off staying where he is.

Doyle should move to become a better player.

Too many Irish players are going for the safe option ie John O'Shea - happy to **** away his career on Man U bench, Shay Given and Damien Duff happy to play with a crap club.

Reading are never going to be better than they are now, if Doyle wants to better himself he should move.

[Torn-Ado]

Doyle should move to become a better player.

Too many Irish players are going for the safe option ie John O'Shea - happy to **** away his career on Man U bench, Shay Given and Damien Duff happy to play with a crap club.

Reading are never going to be better than they are now, if Doyle wants to better himself he should move.

He gets to play with Reading. Thats the main thing. And look at Hunt and the way he is playing now. Playing with a tin pot club isn't doing him any harm at the moment.

Doyle is a good player but he's not great and some people in here tend to over rate him. He is not top four quality, not by a long shot. He probably wouldn't make the Everton or Villa first teams either at this stage. He should contine on playing and scoring for Reading and then next season when/if he has fully established himself as a premiership striker, he should move.

I don't care what clubs these players play for as long as they play regularly. Duff played his best football not at the big club Chelsea but at Blackburn.

However I fully agree with you regarding O Shea.

[Soper]

Why? Some of the better players in the EL have moved to England/Scotland recently. Flynn, Bennett, O'Callaghan, Murphy to name a few and have failed to succeed. If there not good enough for club football in a good/average league what use are they going to be at international level?

Jerome Flynn?

[Billsthoughts]

Why? Some of the better players in the EL have moved to England/Scotland recently. Flynn, Bennett, O'Callaghan, Murphy to name a few and have failed to succeed. If there not good enough for club football in a good/average league what use are they going to be at international level?

:rolleyes:
maybe they didnt take to a foreign culture where they are looked down on for being irish? where the only way of fitting in is to become more like the english and look down on anything irish?
sound familiar?

[livehead1]

:rolleyes:
maybe they didnt take to a foreign culture where they are looked down on for being irish? where the only way of fitting in is to become more like the english and look down on anything irish?
sound familiar?

No, doesn't sound particularly familiar, what do you mean?

Sounds more of a poor excuse to me. Maybe they just weren't good enough at the job they were bought to do?

[SkStu]

have to agree with LiveHead on this one to be honest. Much as i love our league, the players that were being bemoaned as a mass exodus of talent at the time have, all-in-all, failed spectacularly.

That said, i think that the acceptance and strengthening of the domestic league is the only hope for the future, long-term success of the national team. But few people can see that on this messageboard.


to become more like the english and look down on anything irish?
sound familiar?

hell yeah - have a scoot around this forum! :)