FAI Cup 2018

[Nesta99]

Actually on the team of the year can someone explain why Soccer Republic included Darragh Leahy?

The excuse they gave for not including Kieran Sadlier was that he was "in and out of the team". He played in 35 of our 36 league games, starting 27. He also started every cup game and scored in all but one (the Semi Final Replay). Four players in the team played fewer games than him. Burke (22), Hoare (27), Gartland (22) and Leahy (24 - one sub appearance) so clearly he played enough games to justify selection, and his peers felt he was good enough. He scored 26 goals across all competitions and was the second highest goal scorer in the league.

I don't agree with all their selections but I think you can make an argument for each of the above except for Leahy. I'd have McLoughlin in ahead of Gartland and Hoare but I wouldn't be overly upset with their selection. I think Burke was pretty good before he left, and he earned an Irish call up so I'll give them a pass there even if he wouldn't make my team but I can't understand the logic behind the selection of Leahy.

He didn't play all that many games, he started 6 games in which Bohs kept clean sheets and they actually conceded marginally fewer goals per game when he wasn't playing (1.26 vs 1.23). The only argument I can think of is Bohs had that good run to end the season, and they were struggling for a left back and included him as a sort of token but as far as I can tell he didn't play a league game after August 31st so he wasn't exactly key to that run. He did play in the two cup semi finals so there's that at least. Surely they could have picked one of the best left backs in the league at Rovers?

To me the Team of the Year needs no thinking about, it is the league winners. These pundit choices of the 'best IX' tend to be full of sharing the wealth, bias for their clubs or favoured players etc. The only type of team like this that has any merit is the one voted for by fellow players.

[marinobohs]

If you knew where the stadium announcer was you'd realise why he wouldn't be able to see the back of players' shirts. Although I do concede he probably wouldn't have bothered reading out their names anyway, but it's nice that it's important to you.
Nice AND important that everyone see the scumbags masquerading as SRFC nua 😁 for what they are.

[Charlie Darwin]

Nice AND important that everyone see the scumbags masquerading as SRFC nua  for what they are.
Ah, look, I enjoy the rivalry with Bohs and enjoy laughing at them as much as anyone, but I've never been so vexed as to regard any of them as 'scumbags,' not least over something as trivial as a volunteer not memorising the faces of some teenage boys he's never seen before. I'm no fan of Bohs but I'm sure the people involved in the club are genuine people doing their best to improve their club and promote football in their community, as I'm sure is the case as at every Irish club. So I'll just leave it at that.

[oriel]

Actually on the team of the year can someone explain why Soccer Republic included Darragh Leahy?

The excuse they gave for not including Kieran Sadlier was that he was "in and out of the team". He played in 35 of our 36 league games, starting 27. He also started every cup game and scored in all but one (the Semi Final Replay). Four players pin the team played fewer games than him. Burke (22), Hoare (27), Gartland (22) and Leahy (24 - one sub appearance) so clearly he played enough games to justify selection, and his peers felt he was good enough. He scored 26 goals across all competitions and was the second highest goal scorer in the league.

I don't agree with all their selections but I think you can make an argument for each of the above except for Leahy. I'd have McLoughlin in ahead of Gartland and Hoare but I wouldn't be overly upset with their selection. I think Burke was pretty good before he left, and he earned an Irish call up so I'll give them a pass there even if he wouldn't make my team but I can't understand the logic behind the selection of Leahy.

He didn't play all that many games, he started 6 games in which Bohs kept clean sheets and they actually conceded marginally fewer goals per game when he wasn't playing (1.26 vs 1.23). The only argument I can think of is Bohs had that good run to end the season, and they were struggling for a left back and included him as a sort of token but as far as I can tell he didn't play a league game after August 31st so he wasn't exactly key to that run. He did play in the two cup semi finals so there's that at least. Surely they could have picked one of the best left backs in the league at Rovers?

As good a talent as young McLoughlin is, there is no way he was getting into the selection picked by SR over either Hoare or Gartland. He had a good season but he didnt excel over the experience of Gartland or the emergence / improvement of Hoare, both had dominating seasons and were equally effective in the opposition box.

I have to say i do like Sean McLaughlin though, he's a fine player.

To be fair I would have had Sadlier in the team, ridiculous a player of his talent left out by the SR pundits.

[Charlie Darwin]

As good a talent as young McLoughlin is, there is no way he was getting into the selection picked by SR over either Hoare or Gartland. He had a good season but he didnt excel over the experience of Gartland or the emergence / improvement of Hoare, both had dominating seasons and were equally effective in the opposition box.

I have to say i do like Sean McLaughlin though, he's a fine player.

To be fair I would have had Sadlier in the team, ridiculous a player of his talent left out by the SR pundits.
I think there's an interesting point to be made between Sadlier and Gartland. Both have spent time on the bench this year because they presumably weren't performing the way their manager wanted, but I think there's a different perception.

Sadlier scored a lot of goals but he's been in and out of the team as you get the feeling Caulfield never fully trusted him. Gartland had his tough period at the start of the season and wasn't preferred, but he came back and has been outstanding this season.

You'd think if Gartland had been out of the team in August as opposed to March, there'd be a very different perception of his season even if he'd have missed as many games in either scenario.

[dundalkfc10]

Gartland was out of the team at start of the season for ages cause he was sick not dropped! When the Dundalk players all got flu, he got it worse. Was bed riden and unable eat for 2 weeks and lost a load weight.
As soon as he was fit, he was back in

[Charlie Darwin]

Gartland was out of the team at start of the season for ages cause he was sick not dropped! When the Dundalk players all got flu, he got it worse. Was bed riden and unable eat for 2 weeks and lost a load weight.
As soon as he was fit, he was back in
Ah, fair enough. I didn't know that so withdraw my point. But I suppose it still shows that showing the number of games played doesn't tell the whole story, as he played less but still had a huge effect.

[dundalkfc10]

Ah, fair enough. I didn't know that so withdraw my point. But I suppose it still shows that showing the number of games played doesn't tell the whole story, as he played less but still had a huge effect.

You will find alot of fans were surprised when he got back in, many expected him to be 4th choice even behind Folan (hasnt worked out for him so some reason after a alrightish start)

[Martinho II]

you might think its bad enough after discussing the soccer republic team of season what about the first divisions? scandalous there wasnt any harps players in it at all. we had two I though one was enough considering we missed out on the playoffs!

[White Horse]

Actually on the team of the year can someone explain why Soccer Republic included Darragh Leahy?

The excuse they gave for not including Kieran Sadlier was that he was "in and out of the team". He played in 35 of our 36 league games, starting 27. He also started every cup game and scored in all but one (the Semi Final Replay). Four players in the team played fewer games than him. Burke (22), Hoare (27), Gartland (22) and Leahy (24 - one sub appearance) so clearly he played enough games to justify selection, and his peers felt he was good enough. He scored 26 goals across all competitions and was the second highest goal scorer in the league.

I don't agree with all their selections but I think you can make an argument for each of the above except for Leahy. I'd have McLoughlin in ahead of Gartland and Hoare but I wouldn't be overly upset with their selection. I think Burke was pretty good before he left, and he earned an Irish call up so I'll give them a pass there even if he wouldn't make my team but I can't understand the logic behind the selection of Leahy.

He didn't play all that many games, he started 6 games in which Bohs kept clean sheets and they actually conceded marginally fewer goals per game when he wasn't playing (1.26 vs 1.23). The only argument I can think of is Bohs had that good run to end the season, and they were struggling for a left back and included him as a sort of token but as far as I can tell he didn't play a league game after August 31st so he wasn't exactly key to that run. He did play in the two cup semi finals so there's that at least. Surely they could have picked one of the best left backs in the league at Rovers?

I would have had Sheppard in ahead of Burke. Sadlier played a lot games but mostly seemed to be on the margins of games. Sheppard is Cork's stand out player. McLaughlin had a good season, but was never going to get the nod over Gartland and Hoare.

Ridiculous that the second best team in the division is unrepresented in the team of the year.

[Pablo Escobar]

Sheppard is Cork's stand out player. McLaughlin had a good season, but was never going to get the nod over Gartland and Hoare.

Ridiculous that the second best team in the division is unrepresented in the team of the year.

Tbf I know most LOI fans don't see us very often, but McLoughlin was our standout player this season. He's absolutely quality and the PFAI seemed to deem him good enough. I know it's only tokenism in general to get a nomination, but IMO, albeit a biased one, he should be there.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Gartland was out of the team at start of the season for ages cause he was sick not dropped! When the Dundalk players all got flu, he got it worse. Was bed riden and unable eat for 2 weeks and lost a load weight.
As soon as he was fit, he was back in

At least it was only temporary

[marinobohs]

They should have turned out the lights , now that would have been funny :)
Its a conspiracy i'm telling you its a conspiracy.

From the clown that “hoped losing finalists would show some class” 😁
The type that justify terms like “scumbag” 😁

[mcgonigle]

Fantastic day on Sunday, great buildup, great crowd and a much better game than I expected. Kudos to Cork for playing their part in that, gracious in defeat to be fair.

Was starting to come down from that incredible high and starting to feel that off season disappointment, but then I log on here and am delighted to see a Rovers meltdown. Poor RH, it's incredible to see how Ez has broken him over the season. The off season can't come at a better time for him

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Fantastic day on Sunday, great buildup, great crowd and a much better game than I expected. Kudos to Cork for playing their part in that, gracious in defeat to be fair.

Was starting to come down from that incredible high and starting to feel that off season disappointment, but then I log on here and am delighted to see a Rovers meltdown. Poor RH, it's incredible to see how Ez has broken him over the season. The off season can't come at a better time for him

Broken? Nah just amazed someone can consider their club to be big while constantly thinking and talking about another club. Especially considering if yous weren't challenging for the league (as yous so consistently say we aren't) we would't be able to care less about you.

[LOI101]

Read over on Boards that the final got 124,000 viewers. Up 20k on last years final

[WeAreRovers]

Read over on Boards that the final got 124,000 viewers. Up 20k on last years final

Not quite, the Final averaged 143,200 (a share of 16% of those watching TV at the time) up from 126,000 (share 13%) in 2017.

[LOI101]

Thanks for that. Just gave the figures I saw on boards. What sort of share would a run of the mill league game get on a Friday night? Would depend on whether its covered by RTE or Eir I guess?

[WeAreRovers]

Just picked a random Friday RTÉ2 game (Bohs v Cork, Sep 14) which had an average of 52,000 and a 4.4% share. Some will be higher, some lower but that gives you a general idea.

[EatYerGreens]

Just picked a random Friday RTÉ2 game (Bohs v Cork, Sep 14) which had an average of 52,000 and a 4.4% share. Some will be higher, some lower but that gives you a general idea.

Is there a link to a ratings site where the games can be looked up ?

[mcgonigle]

Broken? Nah just amazed someone can consider their club to be big while constantly thinking and talking about another club. Especially considering if yous weren't challenging for the league (as yous so consistently say we aren't) we would't be able to care less about you.

People only mention Rovers these days to laugh at you, you still think you're the biggest club because of your history, nice rental stadium and fan base. But the most important thing in football is who wins the trophies in the here and now which means you lot are also-rans. So yeah you could be considered rivals as in it'll be tough to get 3 points against Rovers when we play them but in no way are Rovers considered our title rivals. The sooner you lot recongnise this and gain some humility people might lay off you a bit, won't hold my breath though

[WeAreRovers]

Is there a link to a ratings site where the games can be looked up ?

You have to be a customer of TAM Ireland/Nielsens so broadcasters, ad agencies, media buying agencies etc have access.

[Nesta99]

They're decent viewing figures for the final. Again it raises the question on what could be achieved with proper marketing and a push from the FAI. Ticket prices and tickets to schoolboy clubs were good initiatives and RTE put together a full coverage package also. but I cant help but feel that a lot more could be done for the seasons showpiece game. Even with advertisment hoarding they werent even 50% in use, why not offer that space to charities if there isnt the interest from business. Im sure that there would be business interest if they were pursued mind!

There is far too much reliance on organic interest from LoI fans and clubs, people flicking over the tv channel etc. Whether the game has any quailty or whether there is a big game like atmosphere might generate additional interest for the following year if for the weeks in advance there was a big advertisment push....like 'cough' utilising bus stops. We were in the Gasworks pre match for example and they seemed to have no idea that the game was on and staff had that 'oh fcuk' look as busses were pulling up and swarms of fans were arriving in. Im sure they check for games at the Aviva in advance but this didnt register obviously so why?

For anyone at the game I think there is a general consensus that it was a good atmosphere and probably the best Ive experienced including Ireland games of recent. Maybe the first 15 minutes of the play-off v Denmark is all that would top it. After the 3 previous finals that were closer to 20k attendances its obvious now that those figures can be increased and the addition 10k or so (in a 55k ground) made a big difference to the general occaison.

[Martinho II]

They're decent viewing figures for the final. Again it raises the question on what could be achieved with proper marketing and a push from the FAI. Ticket prices and tickets to schoolboy clubs were good initiatives and RTE put together a full coverage package also. but I cant help but feel that a lot more could be done for the seasons showpiece game. Even with advertisment hoarding they werent even 50% in use, why not offer that space to charities if there isnt the interest from business. Im sure that there would be business interest if they were pursued mind!

There is far too much reliance on organic interest from LoI fans and clubs, people flicking over the tv channel etc. Whether the game has any quailty or whether there is a big game like atmosphere might generate additional interest for the following year if for the weeks in advance there was a big advertisment push....like 'cough' utilising bus stops. We were in the Gasworks pre match for example and they seemed to have no idea that the game was on and staff had that 'oh fcuk' look as busses were pulling up and swarms of fans were arriving in. Im sure they check for games at the Aviva in advance but this didnt register obviously so why?

For anyone at the game I think there is a general consensus that it was a good atmosphere and probably the best Ive experienced including Ireland games of recent. Maybe the first 15 minutes of the play-off v Denmark is all that would top it. After the 3 previous finals that were closer to 20k attendances its obvious now that those figures can be increased and the addition 10k or so (in a 55k ground) made a big difference to the general occaison.

maybe reason why fai wont make more of a push for cup final tickets is that they know that the atmosphere in the aviva is not as good as when it was in lansdowne road. heard this discussed on off the ball am this morning I think!

[sbgawa]

People only mention Rovers these days to laugh at you, you still think you're the biggest club because of your history, nice rental stadium and fan base. But the most important thing in football is who wins the trophies in the here and now which means you lot are also-rans. So yeah you could be considered rivals as in it'll be tough to get 3 points against Rovers when we play them but in no way are Rovers considered our title rivals. The sooner you lot recongnise this and gain some humility people might lay off you a bit, won't hold my breath though

If you prove one thing in this post it surely is that Rovers fans don't have the monopoly on arrogance, delusions and a lack of humility.... 5 good years and your the biggest club in Ireland :)
If Cork had won the league again this year for two in a row would this make them the biggest club.
Try and relax

[El-Pietro]

If you prove one thing in this post it surely is that Rovers fans don't have the monopoly on arrogance, delusions and a lack of humility.... 5 good years and your the biggest club in Ireland :)
If Cork had won the league again this year for two in a row would this make them the biggest club.
Try and relax
We would argue we are the biggest club!

I'm sure we're actually the fourth biggest, and so are Rovers and Dundalk and...

[nigel-harps1954]

Viewing figures likely much higher for this than the average LOI game as the target audience weren't off at another game themselves.

Televising a LOI match at 5pm on a Saturday evening during the summer would probably draw 100k-ish viewers on average, as most LOI fans would end up tuning in alongside the casual football fan spending Saturday evening in a pub.

[mcgonigle]

If you prove one thing in this post it surely is that Rovers fans don't have the monopoly on arrogance, delusions and a lack of humility.... 5 good years and your the biggest club in Ireland :)
If Cork had won the league again this year for two in a row would this make them the biggest club.
Try and relax

Ha, I'm very relaxed, why wouldn't I be? Have you seen the roll of honours recently? If you've proven one thing with your reply it is that you didn't really read my post, because if you did you would realise I never claimed we were the biggest club in Ireland. What is the criteria to be the biggest club anyway? Most trophies in all history or recent history? Best stadium? Biggest average attendance? Most money in the bank? Best European results? Biggest budget?

What I did say is that what matters is who is currently winning the trophies and as much as it pains Rovers fans, it aint you. Be humble, keep working on the project, keep Bradley and it will all work out...

[Nesta99]

We would argue we are the biggest club!

I'm sure we're actually the fourth biggest, and so are Rovers and Dundalk and...

We all love being 4th!!

This sort of chat always makes me laugh, biggest club blah blah. How and why will differ with each club and fan. Dundalk are currently the top club in the league and the 2nd most successful and without any phoenix club history (with some luck and hard work), on paper the wealthiest currently but have a sh1t ground. Cork currently have the highest attendances and are 2ndt best club currently. Rovers are the top club historically, have the best ground (which was more good luck than good guidance) Athlone are the oldest and Youths the youngest. By what do you gauge being the biggest club never mind a big club as a Real Madrid fan eg would be laughing at us all on this!

As for the monopoly on arrogance, delusions and a lack of humility - we are making hay when the sun shines ;p Some Rovers fans do seem to talk as if they've a birthright to be 'biggest club' but i'd probably be no different if it were Dundalk that had 17 league titles. When Dundalk top the roll of honour in due course I will of course remind people at every opportunity. I will also take up the mantle telling everyone how everything should be done as THE model club!! ;):D

Seriously though these p!ssing matches are pointless. Each club has its merits, its (huge) fails and nearly every fan will differ!!

[Nesta99]

maybe reason why fai wont make more of a push for cup final tickets is that they know that the atmosphere in the aviva is not as good as when it was in lansdowne road. heard this discussed on off the ball am this morning I think!

Im not sure if I get your point. The FAI wont push tickets because they think the atmosphere in the current stadium isnt as good as the old ground? I dont see why that would stop them and surely the effort should be to improve the atmosphere in a stadium that should be noisier that the old open stadium. Ive been in the old Lansdowne Road with the atmosphere like a morgue, same as Croke Park which I think is overated for atmosphere in general. The atmosphere at Irish internationals hasnt always been great even when the team were doing well, especially not for afternoon kick offs probably due to less pre match pints lol. I hate the lack of imagination with COYBIG, FoA, and Stand up for the BiG, over and over and over. Club fans usually have a batch of chants that if embraced better could be transferred to the international games. I think this was tried with a LoI singing section in the Aviva?

[Real ale Madrid]

Lets face it Dundalk v Cork City has turned the Cup Final into a proper occasion - average crowd the last 4 years is 26,531. Average for the last 20 years prior to that was 14,320.

The FAI should be looking to build on this momentum and target a 30k average in the years to come, maybe get to the point where it might drive a bit of income for the league. Get attendance of 40,000 average ticket price €10 - 400k plus a % of the food / drink + a proper TV Fee - put that money into prize-money for the league etc, a vision for the fut......who am I kidding.....

TOP 10 FAI Cup Final attendances in last 50 years:

2735

[Nesta99]

We just need to get Dundalk and Cork to keep contesting the final...

The 2010 final had a lot of novelty value attached as the Aviva was just opened and there were tickets available. That was the point at which the FAI should have been looking to build the attendance with a lot of non LoI people there. We dont know what sort of money that the Cup Final generates in total and whether there is a surplus, but surely it would have been in the FAI's interests to make the effort to promote the game, fill the stadium and cover costs and even make some money. Its seems that involves some serious effort compared to putting Celtic/Liverpool IX on a ticket and no more marketing is needed.

[Real ale Madrid]

We just need to get Dundalk and Cork to keep contesting the final...

Like the ashes.....

[Nesta99]

Like the ashes.....

Until this year it was about as dull!

[sbgawa]

We all love being 4th!!

This sort of chat always makes me laugh, biggest club blah blah. How and why will differ with each club and fan. Dundalk are currently the top club in the league and the 2nd most successful and without any phoenix club history (with some luck and hard work), on paper the wealthiest currently but have a sh1t ground. Cork currently have the highest attendances and are 2ndt best club currently. Rovers are the top club historically, have the best ground (which was more good luck than good guidance) Athlone are the oldest and Youths the youngest. By what do you gauge being the biggest club never mind a big club as a Real Madrid fan eg would be laughing at us all on this!

As for the monopoly on arrogance, delusions and a lack of humility - we are making hay when the sun shines ;p Some Rovers fans do seem to talk as if they've a birthright to be 'biggest club' but i'd probably be no different if it were Dundalk that had 17 league titles. When Dundalk top the roll of honour in due course I will of course remind people at every opportunity. I will also take up the mantle telling everyone how everything should be done as THE model club!! ;):D

Seriously though these p!ssing matches are pointless. Each club has its merits, its (huge) fails and nearly every fan will differ!!

The voice of reason...
Don't forget the 24 cups by the way :)

[Nesta99]

The voice of reason...
Don't forget the 24 cups by the way :)

Pfft...Tin Cup (until we have 25)! :D

[ArFella]

What is the criteria to be the biggest club anyway? Most trophies in all history or recent history? Best stadium? Biggest average attendance? Most money in the bank? Best European results? Biggest budget?

Lads, I think I know how to figure out which team is Ireland's Biggest Club™ we need to rank the teams based on all the criteria suggested by mcgonigle, we could set up some sort of Assessment Group that is Independent to do the ranking, that way nothing could possibly go wrong. :p

[marinobohs]

Lads, I think I know how to figure out which team is Ireland's Biggest Club™ we need to rank the teams based on all the criteria suggested by mcgonigle, we could set up some sort of Assessment Group that is Independent to do the ranking, that way nothing could possibly go wrong. :p

Or we could continue to have fun deluding ourselves that 'our' club is the biggest fish is the tiny puddle of the world football game that is LOI :cool:

[nigel-harps1954]

What is the criteria to be the biggest club anyway? Most trophies in all history or recent history? Best stadium? Biggest average attendance? Most money in the bank? Best European results? Biggest budget?


This wouldn't end too well for Finn Harps..

[sbgawa]

This wouldn't end too well for Finn Harps..


Best craic Manager ..........Harps are the biggest club

[Pablo Escobar]

There is far too much reliance on organic interest from LoI fans and clubs, people flicking over the tv channel etc. Whether the game has any quailty or whether there is a big game like atmosphere might generate additional interest for the following year if for the weeks in advance there was a big advertisment push....like 'cough' utilising bus stops. We were in the Gasworks pre match for example and they seemed to have no idea that the game was on and staff had that 'oh fcuk' look as busses were pulling up and swarms of fans were arriving in. Im sure they check for games at the Aviva in advance but this didnt register obviously so why?


At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd have to be to not open it.

[ToberonaTornado]

At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd to be to not open it.

Coleslaw on a Sunday?!!

https://media.giphy.com/media/TK9V4XysiEZry/giphy.gif

[marinobohs]

At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd to be to not open it.

That deli does a roaring trade on Ireland match nights so they might be missing a trick.Probably doesn't open on a 'normal' Sunday as most of the office workers around are off.

[EatYerGreens]

Best craic Manager ..........Harps are the biggest club

Only since Kenny Shiels got the boot though.

[EatYerGreens]

At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd to be to not open it.

Not a prawn sandwich in sight there either :mad:

[mcgonigle]

Lads, I think I know how to figure out which team is Ireland's Biggest Club™ we need to rank the teams based on all the criteria suggested by mcgonigle, we could set up some sort of Assessment Group that is Independent to do the ranking, that way nothing could possibly go wrong. :p

That was just a sample, lots of criteria missing there. Best crisp selection, most visits by Tom.... it can go on and on

[Martinho II]

Im not sure if I get your point. The FAI wont push tickets because they think the atmosphere in the current stadium isnt as good as the old ground? I dont see why that would stop them and surely the effort should be to improve the atmosphere in a stadium that should be noisier that the old open stadium. Ive been in the old Lansdowne Road with the atmosphere like a morgue, same as Croke Park which I think is overated for atmosphere in general. The atmosphere at Irish internationals hasnt always been great even when the team were doing well, especially not for afternoon kick offs probably due to less pre match pints lol. I hate the lack of imagination with COYBIG, FoA, and Stand up for the BiG, over and over and over. Club fans usually have a batch of chants that if embraced better could be transferred to the international games. I think this was tried with a LoI singing section in the Aviva?

yeah correct. on off the ball they were talking about the lack of atmosphere at Ireland games now and it was way better in the old days. Maybe I am wrong in what I have said but do the FAI regret upgrading the Aviva Stadium?

[RathfarnhamHoop]

yeah correct. on off the ball they were talking about the lack of atmosphere at Ireland games now and it was way better in the old days. Maybe I am wrong in what I have said but do the FAI regret upgrading the Aviva Stadium?

They didn't really get a say in the matter, it was happening no matter what, only decision was how involved they'd be. The atmosphere problems are either down to the team or easily enough fixed but won't be

[mcgonigle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12TB5EApfKQ

Not a happy man. Granted it's just after the game and emotions are probably high, what's the consensus Cork fans? I think he's a bit harsh on some players

[White Horse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12TB5EApfKQ

Not a happy man. Granted it's just after the game and emotions are probably high, what's the consensus Cork fans? I think he's a bit harsh on some players

It is the aftermath of a defeat, so I expect some of his opinions to be expressed more strongly than in the cold light of day.

However, that is as good of a forensic analysis of a team by a supporter that I have ever heard.

It is a little unfair of the YouTube channel to call it a rant. He was calm and very eloquent.