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seand
02/09/2015, 8:35 AM
Great crowd for a televised game on a Tuesday night, and a good crowd up with Rovers considering it was a Tuesday, on TV and in Oriel.

trevy
02/09/2015, 9:05 AM
596 at Waterford v Wexford Youths last Friday.

GCdfc
02/09/2015, 10:15 AM
Great crowd for a televised game on a Tuesday night, and a good crowd up with Rovers considering it was a Tuesday, on TV and in Oriel.

Were their supporters believing the hype that they could win the league? Bar a miracle I think that hype should be well dead now.

oriel
02/09/2015, 12:27 PM
3,956 was the season highest so far and was an excellent crowd really, you do have to take into account Tuesday night and live on Setanta, although its possibly the lesser one most have, still it would have been shown in all local pubs. Credit Rovers too for taking a decent crowd up, and after playing Sligo away at the weekend.

Last nights turn out by the locals implies there is no let up in the hunger to win another title, good to see so many school kids there too.

Bizzare really that our lowest crowd of the season will probably be the Cork City match (2,600) played on a Sunday 6pm KO, rained for 24 hours that day too.

nigel-harps1954
02/09/2015, 1:23 PM
Week 23:

Cork v Galway: 2,518
Sligo v Shamrock Rovers: 2,178
Bohs v Dundalk: 1,893
Pats v Derry: 926
Shelbourne v UCD: 732
Waterford v Wexford: 596
Longford v Bray: 446
Drogheda v Limerick: 450 estimate
Cobh v Athlone: 370
Cabinteely v Harps: 250 estimate

Midweek:

Cork v Pats: 2,017
Dundalk v Shamrock Rovers: 3,957

nigel-harps1954
02/09/2015, 1:33 PM
Week 23:

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 1,718 (1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 819 (718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 3,476 (3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 1,185 (1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 800 (1,064; 817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 3,192 (2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 1,312 (975 FD)
Limerick - 928(757; 1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Longford - 807 (567 FD; 379 FD; 365 FD; 315 FD; 230 FD; 260 FD)
Pat's - 1,432 (1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 3,028 (2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 1,763 (1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 336 (653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 657 (No previous)
Cobh - 368 (223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Harps - 805 (449; 479; 429; 433; 644; 480) -
Shels - 625 (713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 219 (397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 470 (470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 432 (331; 227; 302; 216; 343; 494)


PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,700 (1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 487 (495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,251 (1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)


TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: Week 22: 16,333 (including two midweek)

OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 44,309 (55,408)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 263,499 (297,334)

OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: ​307,808 (352,742)

bennocelt
03/09/2015, 10:45 PM
In all fairness to Dundalk and their European performance, they were put out by two deflected goals against a side that just learned their Champions League group stage opponents the other day. Dundalk looked no worse than BATE over two games and only for a bit of luck could well have beaten them. Were they to have sneaked past BATE, there was a great chance of a CL group stage for an Irish club for the first time ever. They were simply unlucky.

I've said it constantly, but people who use European performances and results as the benchmark for the standard in our league need to cop themselves on. One off games don't decide the standard of our league compared to the rest of Europe and often opposition proves a factor, for instance, Cork City had one of their worst performances in the past couple of years in their second leg game in Iceland, but that doesn't mean they're that crap in every game, nor is the rest of the league.
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While I agree with Dundalk, I do think the European games show how good or bad our league is. Fact is we are about 41 out of 52 nations in the UEFA listings. And it shows really tbh
How would you base it on?

Dodge
04/09/2015, 7:09 AM
I think over the course of the rankings (5 years) it shows we were are but some people have a tendency to over react to one year's results. Or even one team's results

The other issue for me is it doesn't really matter how we ranked against leagues from other countries. It shouldn't effect anything that happens domestically

bennocelt
04/09/2015, 7:51 AM
On the other hand some also tend to big up the league. Apart from Dundalk I don't see much quality at all.

I would also argue that Europe should be even more important now with the big pay offs for doing well. With clubs struggling financially, it looks like Europe is the only decent source of revenue, since the FAI don't give a toss about our league. Get into Europe and doing well will set a club up for years in the LOI.

Nesta99
04/09/2015, 12:38 PM
Apart from Dundalk I don't see much quality at all.


I dont think that is entirely fair. Rovers are rebuilding and this is the first full season under Fenlon, they have quality but needs to be tactically adjusted to Fenlons ideas regardless on whether it will be easy on the eye or not. Bohs are a good side with a limited budget that Long has made the most of, again they will continue to improve even more than Rovers imo. Cork are held back by the managers philosophy (couldnt resist) but are a resilient bunch and nobody enjoys playing them. Pats is a strange one as they have declined both with a manager who actually has tactical nuance to change things when needed. They were on a fine run until Dundalk and Cork beat them well so confidence is low but they still have enough quality to cause a few upsets during the remainder of the season and then to build in future.

Dalymountrower
04/09/2015, 4:39 PM
[QUOTE=bennocelt;1836728

I would also argue that Europe should be even more important now with the big pay offs for doing well. With clubs struggling financially, it looks like Europe is the only decent source of revenue, since the FAI don't give a toss about our league. Get into Europe and doing well will set a club up for years in the LOI.[/QUOTE]


Fenlon said as much when he was interviewed after the game in Oriel the other night. Third place is as good as second, its all about qualifying for Europe ( and the Leinster Cup)

bennocelt
04/09/2015, 5:01 PM
I dont think that is entirely fair. Rovers are rebuilding and this is the first full season under Fenlon, they have quality but needs to be tactically adjusted to Fenlons ideas regardless on whether it will be easy on the eye or not. Bohs are a good side with a limited budget that Long has made the most of, again they will continue to improve even more than Rovers imo. Cork are held back by the managers philosophy (couldnt resist) but are a resilient bunch and nobody enjoys playing them. Pats is a strange one as they have declined both with a manager who actually has tactical nuance to change things when needed. They were on a fine run until Dundalk and Cork beat them well so confidence is low but they still have enough quality to cause a few upsets during the remainder of the season and then to build in future.

I do get all that, but I wonder what you are comparing the standard too? Wales, Norn iron, Estonia?

Have seen Bohs twice this season live, wasnt great tbh, even if I do think Long is a decent manager. (i was sure they would get a better cup run).
Fenlon sticks to a very rigid system, that can be tough to watch at times, Cork too.
Pats are very brittle, nice to watch at times, but not solid enough.
Dont get me wrong, I love the LOI, and want it to be great, but I am under no illusion.

Redzer
04/09/2015, 5:46 PM
Week 23
Harps - 805 (449; 479; 429; 433; 644; 480) -
Shels - 625 (713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)


Nidge, you might explain, I don't get these figures.

Harps have crowds around 450ish
Shels have crowds around 900ish
Yet, Harps average is 200 more than Shels

nigel-harps1954
04/09/2015, 8:39 PM
Nidge, you might explain, I don't get these figures.

Harps have crowds around 450ish
Shels have crowds around 900ish
Yet, Harps average is 200 more than Shels

Find me one attendance of Harps this season that's been as low as 450.

I can post every official attendance from Finn Park this season if you want?

Redzer
05/09/2015, 9:10 AM
Find me one attendance of Harps this season that's been as low as 450.

I can post every official attendance from Finn Park this season if you want?

Correct me if I'm wrong but in the 6 games listed 449, 429 & 433 are all BELOW 450.
Harps highest listed is 644, while Shels Lowest is 713 with figures in attendance of 11 & 12 hundred-ish in 2 games.

I don't want you to list Finn Park attendance, or give a flying F**k what it is, I just seen these figures and thought they looked strange.
If you don't wish to explain I won't loose any sleep over it either.

kksaints
05/09/2015, 9:46 AM
Nidge, you might explain, I don't get these figures.

Harps have crowds around 450ish
Shels have crowds around 900ish
Yet, Harps average is 200 more than Shels

The figures listed there are the previous few years average attendance for the season not this seasons match attendance.

nigel-harps1954
05/09/2015, 10:13 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but in the 6 games listed 449, 429 & 433 are all BELOW 450.
Harps highest listed is 644, while Shels Lowest is 713 with figures in attendance of 11 & 12 hundred-ish in 2 games.

I don't want you to list Finn Park attendance, or give a flying F**k what it is, I just seen these figures and thought they looked strange.
If you don't wish to explain I won't loose any sleep over it either.

Try this seasons attendances. Good man.

Redzer
05/09/2015, 12:46 PM
Next time try answering the simple question that was asked and not be such an obnoxious *****

Dunny
05/09/2015, 12:48 PM
For someone not losing any sleep over the issue......



:D

Nesta99
05/09/2015, 12:49 PM
I do get all that, but I wonder what you are comparing the standard too? Wales, Norn iron, Estonia?


First and foremost I gauge the standard of players and team by simply watching games. European results have often been influenced by an inferiority issue and by the time the players realise that they are in the game its often too late. There may be some change after Dundalk's and UCD's more positive tactics rather than damage limitation tactics in the past.

Comparing our own leagues to another is something all fans do but it needs to be in a positive way and without the scoffs from EPL fans about LoI, and vice versa, where domestic fans lay off the 'barstoolers' or the 'real fans' jibes.
LoI fans and Irish EPL fans too should drop the inferiority complex they have with domestic football and enjoy it for what it is and not look for the bells and whistle that large TV companies have used elsewhere to create a TV spectacular...all this in an ideal world of course.

I have mentioned before that in England, fans by and large support both the bigger premiership clubs and have an odd day out in the Emirates or Boleyn Ground etc. But they also attend games of their local team; Most importantly though, they do not compare the matchday experience of a Premier division match and Conference south.

I have seen a lot of football in the south east of England-Conference South to Premier League so Conference South Chelmsford, League clubs Southend, Colchester, Brentford, Barnet and Orient. In between QPR, Fulham and Watford(my english club). Then the biggers clubs - Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, Manchester United. I hope to get to the Olympic Stadium next season. Dundalk in my layman's opinion would be a consistent League 2 looking to being promoted.

Watching most Conference games has you wanting to leave after 5 minutes! Some of our MDL or even Summer League sides could cut it at the regional Conference divisions.. (at this stage ive forgotten the point I wanted to make ha!)

nigel-harps1954
05/09/2015, 2:38 PM
Next time try answering the simple question that was asked and not be such an obnoxious *****

Calm yourself there. You could have explained your question better in the first place and I wouldn't have felt the need to be an obnoxious *****.

I gave you a simple answer to your question and you launched on the attack. No need to be getting personal.

Jofspring
05/09/2015, 7:25 PM
1,652 in the Markets Field. Would have been more but the apes running Limerick soccer put a load of games down for the same time as the Limerick match.

Dunny
05/09/2015, 9:08 PM
2443 Oriel tonght.Saturday nights are terrible,none of the usual 'Friday' buzz around at all tonight.

oriel
05/09/2015, 9:56 PM
This was a fair drop from Tuesday's near 4k crowd, but crowds usually drop when there is another home game so soon, plus it was a lower profile game with respect to Sligo. Our next two are also at home, will be interesting to see how those crowds compare, Sligo in the cup, then Drogs in the Lge.

nigel-harps1954
05/09/2015, 10:44 PM
Harps v waterford 724

Dunny
05/09/2015, 10:58 PM
20,556 at Shels v Cabo :cool:

(knock of the 20,000)

:D

WoodquayBoy
05/09/2015, 11:21 PM
Disappointing 759 at EDP, but given our poor home form and the fact half the county has decamped to Dublin for stick-fighting finals, it's probably understandable

oriel
07/09/2015, 9:29 AM
2443 Oriel tonght.Saturday nights are terrible,none of the usual 'Friday' buzz around at all tonight.

This was Dundalk's lowest of the season, and I read on Twitter that the Dundalk FM lads came out with a belter on their take on the reduced crowd:

'Its a difficult night with everyone having to get washed and having a shower'

nigel-harps1954
07/09/2015, 9:56 PM
Any help on Derry attendance or corrections on estimated figures would be appreciated.

Shamrock Rovers v Bohs: 3,000 estimate
Dundalk v Sligo: 2,443
Limerick v Pats: 1,652
Harps v waterford 724
Shelbourne v Cabinteely: 556
Galway v Longford: 759
Wexford v Cobh: 463
Bray v Cork: 350 estimate
Athlone v UCD: 200 estimate

Derry v Drogheda: ?

nigel-harps1954
16/09/2015, 4:36 PM
Week 24:

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 1,718 (1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 785 (718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 3,476 (3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 1,169 (1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 800 (1,064; 817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 3,138 (2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 1,273 (975 FD)
Limerick - 979 (757; 1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Longford - 807 (567 FD; 379 FD; 365 FD; 315 FD; 230 FD; 260 FD)
Pat's - 1,432 (1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 3,025 (2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 1,763 (1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 325 (653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 657 (No previous)
Cobh - 368 (223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Harps - 798 (449; 479; 429; 433; 644; 480) -
Shels - 619 (713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 219 (397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 470 (470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 448 (331; 227; 302; 216; 343; 494)


PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,694 (1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 488 (495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,243 (1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)


TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 11,722 (including Wexford v UCD)

OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 46,855 (55,408)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 272,675 (297,334)

OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: ​319,530 (352,742)

Ezeikial
16/09/2015, 5:43 PM
Week 24: (Closest estimate I got for Derry v Drogheda was 800)



Closest to what?

nigel-harps1954
16/09/2015, 6:56 PM
Closest to what?

EDIT: Just been corrected to 972.

nigel-harps1954
18/09/2015, 9:05 PM
Dundalk v Drogheda: 3,207
Bohs v Longford: 1,296
Waterford v Cabinteely: 348

White Horse
18/09/2015, 9:16 PM
Dundalk v Drogheda: 3,207


Not bad considering there was only about 30 from Drogheda. It's a long way to travel.

Dunny
18/09/2015, 10:15 PM
Not bad considering there was only about 30 from Drogheda. It's a long way to travel.

46

Louth derbies beneficial to both sides attendance wise i hear and "i hope they stay up"..........:rolleyes:

Nesta99
19/09/2015, 1:21 PM
All Drogs are very very quiet on all fronts of recent. Daviddrog last seen cackling Dundalk werent good enough to retain the title - getting close DD!

Dunny
19/09/2015, 6:34 PM
3662 attendance in EDP

oriel
19/09/2015, 10:47 PM
46

Louth derbies beneficial to both sides attendance wise i hear and "i hope they stay up"..........:rolleyes:

To be fair guys, drogs had around 100 up, considering their plight and high chances of a heavy defeat, that was more than I expected.

This (3,207) was a decent crowd for a match live on TV.

Nesta99
19/09/2015, 11:12 PM
Younger fans that thought Drogheda were our main rivals during their successful period and us at our lowest ebb, have had a change of opinion and now see the Likes of Rovers, Pats, and currently Cork as main rivals. So Drogheda just dont have the draw that they had for a while for games in Oriel. So it was a good attendance all things considered.

Dunny
19/09/2015, 11:27 PM
To be fair guys, drogs had around 100 up, considering their plight and high chances of a heavy defeat, that was more than I expected.

This (3,207) was a decent crowd for a match live on TV.
Don't want to drag this out and if you thought 100 Drogs fans then work away.My Uncle counted them:36 on the away terrace.10 in the stand.22 miles up the road -no excuse!

oriel
20/09/2015, 12:15 AM
I was in the middle of the stand, was hard to estimate the away area from there. If it was less than 50, that is very poor.

White Horse
20/09/2015, 8:42 AM
Don't want to drag this out and if you thought 100 Drogs fans then work away.My Uncle counted them:36 on the away terrace.10 in the stand.22 miles up the road -no excuse!


My young lad counted 35 on the away terrace. So we're pretty close on that.

It's always hard to tell on the stand. I though I was sitting next to two Drogs fans as they were silent when the goals went in. Turned out they were two Slovakian lads from the local PayPal office.

oriel
20/09/2015, 12:58 PM
3662 attendance in EDP

The crowd for last years EA sports final between Dundalk and Rovers was 3,500. For some reason an exact figure wasn't realised, but it compares favourably with this seasons.

mcgonigle
20/09/2015, 8:12 PM
My young lad counted 35 on the away terrace. So we're pretty close on that.


There was 35 up until ko but more came in then so it was about 80 - 100

nigel-harps1954
20/09/2015, 8:26 PM
So, weekend attendances. Only three official figures through so far from eight league games. Pretty poor. Hopefully some on here can correct that as I'm finding it extra difficult lately to obtain any official figures.

Dundalk v Drogheda: 3,207
Bohs v Longford: 1,296
Derry v Shamrock Rovers: 1,200 estimate
Bray v Limerick: 500 estimate
Cobh v Harps: 350 estimate
Waterford v Cabinteely: 348
UCD v Wexford: 250 estimate
Athlone v Shelbourne: 250 estimate

seand
22/09/2015, 8:27 AM
In defence of Drogs there were over 100 of them there in the end, though only about 30 at kickoff time. It was on TV, they're poor and they were on a hiding to nothing so you can see the appeal of giving it a miss and watching on TV. From behind the couch presumably. And even if they aren't very good they're still one of the top attractions at Oriel

dundalkfc10
22/09/2015, 2:14 PM
In defence of Drogs there were over 100 of them there in the end, though only about 30 at kickoff time. It was on TV, they're poor and they were on a hiding to nothing so you can see the appeal of giving it a miss and watching on TV. From behind the couch presumably. And even if they aren't very good they're still one of the top attractions at Oriel

Rovers, Bohs, Pats are bigger attractions, so now are Cork!

seand
22/09/2015, 2:26 PM
Rovers, Bohs, Pats are bigger attractions, so now are Cork!

I'd put Drogs approx level with Cork and Pats now, behind Rovers but ahead of Bohs. Do you really think more Dundalk people will roll up to see midtable Bohs than relegation threatened Drogs?

dundalkfc10
22/09/2015, 5:20 PM
I'd put Drogs approx level with Cork and Pats now, behind Rovers but ahead of Bohs. Do you really think more Dundalk people will roll up to see midtable Bohs than relegation threatened Drogs?

This season attendances
Dundalk V Drogheda Attendance: 3,457 + 3,100 other night
Dundalk V Bohs Attendance: 3,225

Last season
Dundalk V Bohs Attendance: 2,114 + 2,614
Dundalk V Drogheda Attendance: 2,383

Looks like roughly the same amount of people will turn up for both

seand
22/09/2015, 6:08 PM
This season attendances
Dundalk V Drogheda Attendance: 3,457 + 3,100 other night
Dundalk V Bohs Attendance: 3,225

Last season
Dundalk V Bohs Attendance: 2,114 + 2,614
Dundalk V Drogheda Attendance: 2,383

Looks like roughly the same amount of people will turn up for both

Damn you and your 'facts'. dfc10, damn you!