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Dunny
02/03/2011, 2:18 PM
Simply asking you to provide proof WW, whats wrong with that?

marinobohs
02/03/2011, 2:26 PM
Simply asking you to provide proof WW, whats wrong with that?

Christs sake, I'd be amazed if there were not some sectarian chants (by a minority) on both sides given the teams and history around this fixture. So what ? Not justifying it in any way but harping on about it only encourages the morons responsible.

As regards the "somebody burned something" argument, :rolleyes:

sligoman
02/03/2011, 5:10 PM
If Bohs knock Portadown out, we're playing Cliftonville.

Ezeikial
02/03/2011, 11:16 PM
Setanta Cup Quarter Finals:

Glentoran v Dundalk
Lisburn Distillery v Shamrock Rovers
Sligo Rovers v Portadown* or Cliftonville
Bohemians* or Cliftonville v Crusaders


* If Portadown beat Bohemians its Sligo against Portadown, if Bohemians win its Sligo against Cliftonville.


Last 4 predictions
Dundalk
Shamrock Rovers
Sligo
Crusaders

baddebt
03/03/2011, 7:44 AM
Would monkey noises directed at a team of black players also be a "bit of banter"?

Should black players and fans just "get a life" too.

Your analysis of sectarianism in football is facile.

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..........................I was refer to the banter among rival groups of fans , not players
why would 1 set of fans make monkey noises towards another set of fans ,

marinobohs
03/03/2011, 9:00 AM
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..........................I was refer to the banter among rival groups of fans , not players
why would 1 set of fans make monkey noises towards another set of fans ,

Acting the monkey ? APEING the english Danny Dyer wannabees ? :) or maybe they just went banannas over some decision ?.

Red Army
03/03/2011, 6:00 PM
I was looking at at site Irishultrasmovement.blogspot.com seems to be a fair bit of flares used so far by supporters I take the fines have been reduced?

bullit
03/03/2011, 6:14 PM
I was looking at at site Irishultrasmovement.blogspot.com seems to be a fair bit of flares used so far by supporters I take the fines have been reduced?
Im not sure what the fines are in relation to the Setanta Cup but i know that Dundalk were warned about there future use after the Linfield V Dundalk match at Windsor Park.
Warning issued,but do Dundalk fans take heed ??

Moday night in Oriel after Dundalk score :https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_3jojG_Sq6f8/TWw3In7FsNI/AAAAAAAANZ8/Th-EIkd9FeA/s640/IMG_0271.JPG

Red Army
03/03/2011, 6:39 PM
I'm sure that's just the usual scaretactic trying to put lads off using them most likely. I reckon there will be a big increase in use of them this season in general.
Anyways what sort of teams are the Nordies putting out this year or are they taking it serious?

Red Army
03/03/2011, 6:43 PM
Great photo btw Built. Full of passion

bullit
03/03/2011, 6:49 PM
Great photo btw Built. Full of passion
Photos courtesy of DFC photographer David/Nigel Caldwell and more available on https://picasaweb.google.com/nigelcaldwell/DundalkVLinfieldSetantaCupFeb282011#

PartySaint
03/03/2011, 7:26 PM
Im not sure what the fines are in relation to the Setanta Cup but i know that Dundalk were warned about there future use after the Linfield V Dundalk match at Windsor Park.
Warning issued,but do Dundalk fans take heed ??

Moday night in Oriel after Dundalk score :https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_3jojG_Sq6f8/TWw3In7FsNI/AAAAAAAANZ8/Th-EIkd9FeA/s640/IMG_0271.JPG

There seems to be a random Shamrock Rovers fan in the middle of the shed

bullit
03/03/2011, 7:46 PM
There seems to be a random Shamrock Rovers fan in the middle of the shed

We are a very welcoming club PartySaint :cool:
Has that message NOT gone out yet :D

Red Army
03/03/2011, 8:17 PM
Yeah I heard Dundalk supporters had a banner at the start of the game welcoming Linfield to oriel park too

Mr_Parker
03/03/2011, 8:40 PM
I'm sure that's just the usual scaretactic trying to put lads off using them most likely. I reckon there will be a big increase in use of them this season in general.


More than a scare tactic with a couple of clubs already on the first rung of the fines ladder.


RULE 22. SPECTATOR CONDUCT
1. The home club/team is liable for any improper conduct among all spectators, regardless of the question of culpable conduct or culpable oversight and depending on the situation, may be fined. Further sanctions may be imposed in the case of serious disturbances.

2. The visiting club/team is liable for improper conduct among its own group of spectators, regardless of the question of culpable conduct or culpable oversight and depending on the situation, may be fined. Further sanctions may be imposed in the case of serious disturbances. Supporters occupying the away sector of a stadium are regarded as the visiting supporters, unless proven to the contrary.

3. Improper conduct includes but is not limited to violence towards persons or objects, letting
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off incendiary devices, throwing missiles, use of smoke bombs, flares or fireworks, displaying insulting slogans in any form, uttering insulting sounds, racist behaviour or invading or encroaching onto the pitch.

4. The liability described in par. 1 and 2 also includes matches played on neutral grounds, especially during finals of competitions.

SANCTIONS

RULE 23. CULPABILITY
Unless otherwise specified, infringements are punishable regardless of whether they have been committed intentionally or negligently.

RULE 24. INVOLVEMENT
1. Anyone who intentionally takes part in committing an infringement, either as instigator or accomplice, is subject to disciplinary proceedings.
2. The disciplinary body shall take account of the degree of guilt of the party involved and may reduce a sanction accordingly. It shall not go below the minimum sanction applicable.

RULE 25. SANCTIONS APPLICABLE
1. The following sanctions are applicable only to natural persons:
a) caution;
b) expulsion;
c) match suspension;
d) ban from dressing rooms and/or substitutes’ bench;
e) ban from entering a stadium;
2. The following sanctions are applicable only to legal persons:
a) playing a match without spectators;
b) playing a match on neutral territory;
c) ban on playing in a particular stadium;
d) annulment of the result of a match;
e) exclusion;
f) forfeit;

3. In addition to the sanctions listed above the following
sanctions are applicable to both natural and legal persons;
a) a warning;
b) a reprimand;
c) a fine;
d) the return of awards.

Red Army
03/03/2011, 9:56 PM
Any list of rules which states uttering insulting sounds can't be taken serious.

marinobohs
04/03/2011, 11:10 AM
Yeah I heard Dundalk supporters had a banner at the start of the game welcoming Linfield to oriel park too

Yea, i heard from a work colleague that his cousins friends neighbours wifes, brother was at the match (first half anyway) and that the banner may or may not have been burned ;)

Ezeikial
06/03/2011, 2:35 PM
Respective Club Website previews of Glentoran V Dundalk on Monday night:

http://www.glentoran.com/read_more.php

http://www.dundalkfc.com/glentoran-v-dundalk-match-preview

legendz
07/03/2011, 8:26 AM
Are Setanta planning to show any of the games?

Martinho II
07/03/2011, 12:13 PM
Are Setanta planning to show any of the games?

only at the quarter final stage but its strange from them as they are not showing this game tonight as it is the quarter finals now!

Dunny
07/03/2011, 12:56 PM
Seem there will be updates on extratime, waiting to hear if it's on DundakFM

White Horse
07/03/2011, 3:59 PM
Dundalk FM will be covering it. I hope the audio is better than the Linfield game.

bullit
07/03/2011, 6:29 PM
DUNDALK team v Glentoran: Cherrie; Madden, Hector, Guthrie, Murphy; Kearns, Bennett, Maher, Ward; Quigley, Byrne.

Dunny
07/03/2011, 6:45 PM
Commentary: http://delicast.com/radio/Ireland/Dundalk_FM

sligoman
07/03/2011, 6:53 PM
Portadown 1 up.

eL Bettor
07/03/2011, 6:55 PM
Extratime.ie match tracker no updates yet

1-0 Portadown

bullit
07/03/2011, 7:31 PM
0-0 @ H/T Glentoran V Dundalk

sligoman
07/03/2011, 7:48 PM
2-0 Portadown, looks like we'll be playing them so.

bullit
07/03/2011, 8:23 PM
Dundalk take the lead

White Horse
07/03/2011, 8:24 PM
Quigley wonder-goal.

bullit
07/03/2011, 8:34 PM
F/T @ the Oval and its advantage Dundalk 0-1 :D:party::cool: GET IN !!!

oriel
07/03/2011, 9:07 PM
I didnt really know what to expect tonight, so thats obviously an excellent score to take to the home leg, but this is far from over.

Dillonman
07/03/2011, 9:37 PM
Great result for the town. Heard it was backs to the wall for most of the match but a win is a win.

Ezeikial
08/03/2011, 12:28 AM
A wonder strike from Mark Quigley about 10 minutes from time. It was a goal worthy of winning any game.

Truth is that Dundalk were forunate to go in level at the break, with Glentoran hitting the woodwork and Cherrie pulling off a trademark one on one save. The second half was a different story with Dundalk dominating. On another night Jayo could have had a hatrick. Quigley's winner was a gem of a volley from the edge of the area after a corner was partially cleared.

About 200 noisey Dundalk supporters travelled tonight. No sign of any Drogs intruders trying to set flags or jerseys on fire tonight. Although I did see one really badly behaved supporter light up a ciggie in a no smoking area

legendz
08/03/2011, 10:51 PM
Good stuff Dundalk! Taking to this competition well.

bullit
14/03/2011, 7:26 PM
Shams 2 up - Karl Sheppard and Ciaran Kilduff

bullit
14/03/2011, 8:12 PM
Shams romping it @ Ballyskeagh, 3 nil now (Dean Kelly)

sligoman
14/03/2011, 8:51 PM
Results:
Lisburn 0-3 Shams
Cliftonville 4-2 Crusaders.

HulaHoop
15/03/2011, 9:47 AM
9 changes for Rovers from the side that started in Sligo on Saturday. Amazed at the strength of our squad.

EivissaPaul
15/03/2011, 3:38 PM
Good to see Dundalk and Rovers doing well in this competition. Shocked at how badly it is covered despite Setanta sponsoring it.

holidaysong
15/03/2011, 4:17 PM
Slightly off topic, but I can't get up to Dundalk for our game on Monday night against Glentoran. Anyone know any decent League of Ireland friendly pub with Setanta in Dublin I could watch it in? Does McDowell's out in Inchicore have Setanta and open on a Monday night? I work in Bluebell so that'd be pretty handy for me if it did.

Dunny
15/03/2011, 4:19 PM
Pity ye cant make it HS. I will keep an eye out for a link for you if thats any use.

holidaysong
15/03/2011, 4:22 PM
Cheers Dunny, but my internet is useless. Trying to even listen to Dundalk FM online for the away games in the Setanta was hopeless. Pub and pints is the only solution! :D

Dunny
15/03/2011, 4:23 PM
Pub and pints is the only solution! :D

Best solution there is.! :D Hopefully ye get sorted.

PartySaint
15/03/2011, 6:23 PM
Slightly off topic, but I can't get up to Dundalk for our game on Monday night against Glentoran. Anyone know any decent League of Ireland friendly pub with Setanta in Dublin I could watch it in? Does McDowell's out in Inchicore have Setanta and open on a Monday night? I work in Bluebell so that'd be pretty handy for me if it did.

Have you considered flying from Sligo??

McDowells has Setanta and is open on Mondays

sheao
15/03/2011, 10:26 PM
Good to see Dundalk and Rovers doing well in this competition. Shocked at how badly it is covered despite Setanta sponsoring it.

Yeah they have missed some cracking games and goals so far.

Ezeikial
19/03/2011, 3:16 PM
Setanta Cup schedule :
http://www.airtricityleague.ie/index.php/matchzone/other-competitions/3386/3386


QUARTER FINALS FIXTURES
1ST LEG MATCHES

Monday, 28th March 2011
Sligo Rovers v Portadown.

2ND LEG MATCHES

Monday, 21st March 2011
Dundalk v Glentoran; Crusaders v Cliftonville.

Tuesday, 22nd March 2011
Shamrock Rovers v Lisburn Distillery.

Monday, 4th April 2011
Portadown v Sligo Rovers.

(All matches will kick off at 7.45 pm unless they are broadcasted live on Setanta Sports which may require a slight adjustment for TV schedules)

SEMI-FINALS FIXTURES

SEMI-FINAL 1
1ST Leg: Monday, 4th April 2011 (not involving Sligo Rovers/Portadown)
2nd Leg: Monday, 18th April 2011

SEMI-FINAL 2
1st Leg: Monday, 11th April 2011
2nd Leg: Tuesday, 19th April 2011

FINAL: Saturday, 14th May 2011
It's a strange situation where the first semi-final is due to take place at the same time as the last quarter-final tie on April 4th.

This appears to indicate that they have abandoned their previously stated intention to maximise the north v south clashes (as the winner of Sligo / Portadown Q-F will automatically play in the second semi).

No word yet on when the semi-final draw will take place, although the winners on this weeks 2nd leg matches should not be kept in the dark with the first semi scheduled for only a fortnight later.

I hope that all of this uncertainty is still relevant for Dundalk at 9.35pm on Monday night!

orielabu
20/03/2011, 6:46 PM
From Ezeikial “ It's a strange situation where the first semi-final is due to take place at the same time as the last quarter-final tie on April 4th.

This appears to indicate that they have abandoned their previously stated intention to maximise the north v south clashes (as the winner of Sligo / Portadown Q-F will automatically play in the second semi).”

Comment: By March 22nd the three semi-finalists, other than the winners of the Sligo/Portadown tie, will be known. The 3 will consist of one of the following possible combinations (i) 3 IL clubs (ii); 2 IL and 1 LOI; (iii) 1 IL and 2 LOI.

From this combination it is possible to arrange a first semi-final for April 4th that excludes the Sligo/Portadown winner AND still retains the option to maximise the North/South ties.

Ezeikial
20/03/2011, 8:14 PM
By March 22nd the three semi-finalists, other than the winners of the Sligo/Portadown tie, will be known. The 3 will consist of one of the following possible combinations (i) 3 IL clubs (ii); 2 IL and 1 LOI; (iii) 1 IL and 2 LOI.

From this combination it is possible to arrange a first semi-final for April 4th that excludes the Sligo/Portadown winner AND still retains the option to maximise the North/South ties.

Fair comment and good observation. For this to happen the draw could not be finalised until after the 3rd Quarter Final match on Tues 22 March

That scenario would mean

Semi 1 - 4 April & 18 April
Crusaders or Cliftonville V Unknown

Semi 2 - 11 April & 19 April
Sligo Rovers or Portadown V Unknown

The two unknowns to be filled by the winners of Dundalk/Glentoran and Shamrock Rovers / Lisburn Distillery.

Dunny
20/03/2011, 8:25 PM
Keith Wallace has compiled a brilliant preview/press kit ahead of the game against Glentoran:

http://www.dundalkfc.com/dundalk-v-glentoran-match-press-kit