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I don't agree with Dundalk being poor. We outplayed Rovers for much of the first half. Rovers took over after Byrne became injured (why do Rovers fans errupt in celebration at the sight of an injured opponent? Poor). We eventaully re-organised but were one down at that stage.
If Jason Byrne had the wrong cereal in the morning, Rovers fans would cheer.
bullit
15/05/2011, 12:08 AM
Only half watched the last 20 minutes or so, but it looked to be fairly exciting. Great result anyway!
You are clearly just a bitter little man who knows that your club is on a steep decline to nowereland.
Barely 400 in chunky bunky park on Friday and half of them were Sligo fans,get a life and a new club.
mypost
15/05/2011, 1:49 AM
Even game until Byrne got injured. I suspected it would be the turning point and it was. With him being the only scorer for them against us this year in 4 games, Dundalk's threat went out the window when he went off. Within 5 minutes we had won the game. Twigg came on, and O'Neill scored. We held on relatively comfortably afterwards, and sealed it in injury time, after our 4th effort hit the post.
Dundalk won the home dressing room, the kit choice, the dug-out choice, and the toss, but we won the cup. Just like in 1987. :)
HomerJay
15/05/2011, 2:00 AM
A lot of empty seats on the Duns side. Did they not sell their 2,000?
Sold 2,500,there was a deadline,so rest(300) went back to rovers.
fionnsci
15/05/2011, 8:55 AM
Then how weree there so many empty seats?
holidaysong
15/05/2011, 10:18 AM
Then how weree there so many empty seats?
Dundalk fans were packed into the northern half of the West stand. It was about 2 fans for every seat standing in those blocks. Most fans had to make do with standing along the walk ways as there was nowhere else to go.
Having 'unreserved seating' for a game that was always likely to be (or close to) a sellout is just stupid.
Louth4sam
15/05/2011, 10:28 AM
Then how weree there so many empty seats?
Everybody was bunched up in the first couple of sections. There was five of us standing together between three seats where I was and can only imagine it was the exact same everywhere. The better team won yesterday and would agree with the others that the turning point was Jason Byrne going off. It's hard to feel too disheartened though as we are going in the right direction and made a nice few quid from the competition.
The policing out side the ground was an absolute joke though. Half a dozen rovers fans were allowed walk right up to the Dundalk turnstyles and start throwing digs at lads with kids.
eelmonster
15/05/2011, 10:31 AM
The empty seats in the centre were all marked 'reserved', there were one or two Rovers fans and suits (officials, players relatives, Setanta guests?) there. From where I was sitting I couldn't see any other empty seats, I'm guessing there was an empty block reserved for the 300 or so unsold tickets at the Dublin Mountain end of the ground.
Rovers deserved the win, though with the amount of times they hit the woodwork I thought luck was on our side and we might sneak a goal. The foul on Madden looked to be inside the box, it'll be interesting to see that again.
hoopy
15/05/2011, 10:51 AM
People seem to be missing the fact that Dundalk had a gael force breeze behind them and did very little with it. That was the reason the game was fairly even first half, nothing to do with Jason Byrne imop. Comfortable win I thought.
Deserved Shams win it must be said. They have a lot of quality and depth in that squad. Twigg and McCabe are two excellent subs to be bringing on. Tough on Dundalk to lose Byrne and they offered little after that.
I watched the game on TV and Matthews pro - Shams bias was all too evident yet again. A co-commentator is supposed to at least give the impression that he is neutral.
I hope we can beat Shels in the EA cup and give him a good sickening. At least he might survive the chop this time. No disrespect to Shels but the man is a total gimp.
White Horse
15/05/2011, 12:45 PM
Dundalk fans were packed into the northern half of the West stand. It was about 2 fans for every seat standing in those blocks. Most fans had to make do with standing along the walk ways as there was nowhere else to go.
Having 'unreserved seating' for a game that was always likely to be (or close to) a sellout is just stupid.
The organisation was shambolic.
People standing on stairwells and walkways. It was dangerous.
A lot of the empty seats were reserved for the FAI or Setanta. It gave a very misleading impression of how many people were there.
White Horse
15/05/2011, 12:48 PM
People seem to be missing the fact that Dundalk had a gael force breeze behind them and did very little with it.
We don't do hoof-ball.
We played on the deck and outpassed and out-played Rovers during that period. Alas the injury to Bryne disrupted our rhythm and Rovers got a foot-hold in the game.
Rovers have the bigger squad and it told yesterday. That is football.
born2bwild
15/05/2011, 1:20 PM
Deserved Shams win it must be said. They have a lot of quality and depth in that squad. Twigg and McCabe are two excellent subs to be bringing on. Tough on Dundalk to lose Byrne and they offered little after that.
I watched the game on TV and Matthews pro - Shams bias was all too evident yet again. A co-commentator is supposed to at least give the impression that he is neutral.
I hope we can beat Shels in the EA cup and give him a good sickening. At least he might survive the chop this time. No disrespect to Shels but the man is a total gimp.
Why do you think he is a gimp?
Dave_SRFC
15/05/2011, 1:26 PM
We don't do hoof-ball.
We played on the deck and outpassed and out-played Rovers during that period. Alas the injury to Bryne disrupted our rhythm and Rovers got a foot-hold in the game.
Absolute rubbish, you were second best everywhere yesterday..
Why do you think he is a gimp?
For the reasons stated.
He's supposed to be objective in his analysis of games, but he carries petty grudges from the past with him and makes it a bit too obvious.
Don't really rate him as a manager either.
Alan Matthews would be down the list of pro-Rovers people. Down there with pauliek and Damien Hancock, for that matter
Rasputin
15/05/2011, 2:25 PM
Doesnt come across that way at all when hes commentating, you can almost hear him salavating at the mouth when anything Shams is mentioned.
Terrible pundit but understandable since Setanta do employ Felix Healy, also an absolute joke of a manager.
HulaHoop
15/05/2011, 2:49 PM
Thought we fully deserved our win. First 30 minutes Dundalk went at it hell for leather and we struggled to get out of our half for long periods of the opening half hour and had to dig deep to keep them at bay. When Dundalk inevitably couldn't keep that pace going and dropped off a bit towards the end of the first half we played our football and dominated the rest of the game creating numerous chances, hit the woodwork three times and ultimately scored two well deserved goals. O'Neill's 4-2-3-1 worked very well against Dundalk's midfield which is where the game was won. By the time we sacrificed a midfielder for a striker to go 4-4-2 Dundalk's midfielders were too tired to take advantage of there being one less Rovers midfielder to deal with. Tactically excellent from the much criticised O'Neill.
Thought Dundalk totally outpassed Rovers in the first half, and our defence coped very easy with anything Rovers offered. 2nd half different story, our wingers never got involved, kept losing the ball, this created huge gaps in the middle, Rovers exposed, tightened their grip on m/f and starting to take over. Byrne off, replaced by a 19 local lad v Twigg and MCCabe coming on obviously had another twist. In then end Rovers totally deserved their win.
Overally pleased with the progress we are making, even getting to a Cup Final is a huge achievement considering we were in the FD 3 years ago. Agree with organisation, there were 5 people standing in front of me using a space of 2 seats.
Zero stewarding, more a case of 'on you go lads'
Ps How were Rovers allowed or wanted to wear black shorts ? Surely white would have been the choice.
Anyway I have enjoyed the whole setanta experience, 30k and good few win bonus's was a great pay out.
What was the official crowd, 4,800 ? I think we had sold 2,300 by sat am, dont know how many corporate tickets or how many Rovers sold.
HulaHoop
15/05/2011, 3:10 PM
Posted on our forum that attendance was 4798. We sold our 2800 allocation for the east stand and a handful of west stand returns from Dundalk, then if you add in the guests (press, sponsors, FAI heads, Setanta heads, Club officials etc) your looking at a Dundalk attendance of about 1800.
harleyleeds
15/05/2011, 4:22 PM
Not wum. Was this not a much smaller crowd than anticipated? Alot stated that all but Tallaght too small (not wum) but 4800 would fit into any ground.
Charlie Darwin
15/05/2011, 4:27 PM
Rovers' allocation sold out on Friday. Dundalk had a few returns from what I've read, but I think part of that is they had to return anything they hadn't sold last week. The empty seats appear to be those belonging to sponsors.
White Horse
15/05/2011, 4:31 PM
Thought we fully deserved our win. First 30 minutes Dundalk went at it hell for leather and we struggled to get out of our half for long periods of the opening half hour and had to dig deep to keep them at bay. When Dundalk inevitably couldn't keep that pace going and dropped off a bit towards the end of the first half we played our football and dominated the rest of the game creating numerous chances, hit the woodwork three times and ultimately scored two well deserved goals. O'Neill's 4-2-3-1 worked very well against Dundalk's midfield which is where the game was won. By the time we sacrificed a midfielder for a striker to go 4-4-2 Dundalk's midfielders were too tired to take advantage of there being one less Rovers midfielder to deal with. Tactically excellent from the much criticised O'Neill.
Agree with most of that. The game was decided in midfield.
passinginterest
15/05/2011, 5:37 PM
Rovers' allocation sold out on Friday. Dundalk had a few returns from what I've read, but I think part of that is they had to return anything they hadn't sold last week. The empty seats appear to be those belonging to sponsors.
Not quite, I picked up an East stand ticket from the ticket booth about 4 o'clock on Saturday, there was at least 50 or 60 more tickets in the bundle as well as the 300 or so West stand tickets. I think the scare stories about it being a sell out probably had a negative effect as people didn't bother trying on the day.
Excellent game I though, especially with the wind blowing so hard. Very controlled performance from Rovers against the wind and had the better chances throughout. Dundalk play some nice football too and their fans contributed to a very good atmosphere.
mypost
15/05/2011, 5:54 PM
The organisation was shambolic.
People standing on stairwells and walkways. It was dangerous.
A lot of the empty seats were reserved for the FAI or Setanta. It gave a very misleading impression of how many people were there.
Nothing to do with organisation. They weren't all Setanta reserved seats. I have my reserved seat in that stand, and whilst it was taken yesterday, there were loads of others around there that were not, there was even one Dundalk fan sitting alone further down, with no-one anywhere near him.
Simply too many people wanted to be in the same section of the ground, which while understandable to an extent, is dangerous and normal in this league.
Nothing to do with organisation.
Simply too many people wanted to be in the same section of the ground.
So it was due to poor organisation..
If it was organised properly then it wouldn't matter where people wanted to sit, they'd be told where thay had to go.
Same thing happened in the Showgrounds against Waterford two seasons ago and that was also because of poor organisation.
born2bwild
15/05/2011, 8:35 PM
Don't really rate him as a manager either.
That's what I was getting at...why not?
mypost
15/05/2011, 8:44 PM
So it was due to poor organisation..
If it was organised properly then it wouldn't matter where people wanted to sit, they'd be told where thay had to go.
Unreserved seating means you can sit where you like. They did. If people won't move, nothing you can do about it.
These figures dont add up, appears our final sales were around 2,000. If you take 200 sponsors, this leaves 2,600 rovers max. Their side was almost full, but not completely. I have to say I was very surprised as an effectively home game for Rovers, this game did not sell out.
On the football side of things, it is hard to see how anyone can come close to Rovers at the moment, I think we will challenge them, but this wont be for around 2 years, the after 'party' at the youth development centre in oriel park may have a signal for the future, most of the indoor pitches now installed, another 2 bars open, hopefully these sources can generate some talent in the years to come.
Boots9
15/05/2011, 10:22 PM
These figures dont add up, appears our final sales were around 2,000. If you take 200 sponsors, this leaves 2,600 rovers max. Their side was almost full, but not completely. I have to say I was very surprised as an effectively home game for Rovers, this game did not sell out.
The east stand was sold out and just a handful of the west stand tickets that were given to us then were sold.
bullit
16/05/2011, 3:07 AM
Posted on our forum that attendance was 4798. We sold our 2800 allocation for the east stand and a handful of west stand returns from Dundalk, then if you add in the guests (press, sponsors, FAI heads, Setanta heads, Club officials etc) your looking at a Dundalk attendance of about 1800.
Dundalk had 2000 sold tickets on Thursday so re-boot you calculator and start again.Rovers won,yet it seems that yee want to add somthing else to your win !! Cop on will you !! :rolleyes:
HulaHoop
16/05/2011, 8:50 AM
Dundalk had 2000 sold tickets on Thursday so re-boot you calculator and start again.Rovers won,yet it seems that yee want to add somthing else to your win !! Cop on will you !! :rolleyes:
Not at all, somebody asked what the attendance was above so I simply posted the figure that was posted on our forum which I believe was taken from the number of tickets that were scanned at the turnstiles. If Rovers had 2750+ in the east stand and another 50 or so in the west, sponsors/press/officials another 150-200 it leaves 1800 or so Dundalk fans unless large numbers didn't get their ticket scanned for some reason??
WindmillWarrior
16/05/2011, 8:53 AM
You are clearly just a bitter little man who knows that your club is on a steep decline to nowereland.
Barely 400 in chunky bunky park on Friday and half of them were Sligo fans,get a life and a new club.
Get a new club?? You clearly don't know much about football!
Oh, and chill out a bit will ya, its only a game :-)
Unreserved seating means you can sit where you like. They did. If people won't move, nothing you can do about it.
Yes, so it was organised as unreserved seating, was it not???
Get a new club?? You clearly don't know much about football!
Oh, and chill out a bit will ya, its only a game :-)
Enjoy your DVD in Mother Hughes..http://www.irishleaguesupporters.com/forums/images/smilies/msn_emo_blunos.gif
WindmillWarrior
17/05/2011, 1:31 PM
Enjoy your DVD in Mother Hughes..http://www.irishleaguesupporters.com/forums/images/smilies/msn_emo_blunos.gif
Eh, thanks, I will!!
avvenalaf
17/05/2011, 2:38 PM
And may we now close the Satanic Cup thread. Done and Dusted.
Eh, thanks, I will!!
Good, highlight of your season.
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