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They're not popular with all their support though. There's a Pats fan who's a regular at Solitude. According to him most Cliftonville fan either dn't care about Rovers, or don't like them
As ever, fans from Belfast will be made welcome by us amd I'd be confident Pats fans would be made welcome in Belfast
SolitudeRed
13/12/2010, 9:06 PM
They're not popular with all their support though. There's a Pats fan who's a regular at Solitude. According to him most Cliftonville fan either dn't care about Rovers, or don't like them
As ever, fans from Belfast will be made welcome by us amd I'd be confident Pats fans would be made welcome in Belfast
Pats fans will I'm sure be made welcome I know the Cork boys that were up enjoyed themselves anyway.
Theres been a connection dating back to the 70s I think but yeah a lot don't really care and some want nothing to do with Rovers, Theres a thread about this at the moment on the Cliftonville ILS forum wasn't at the match on friday night against Linfield but apparently there was some Rovers men up and a couple who were off their heads were acting up. I'm sure they are not representative of all Rovers fans though and I'm not having a go like every team has undesireable elements in its support!
I believe Cliftonville played Pats in a friendly a few years ago was there much of a crowd down for that then?
TenaciousDee
13/12/2010, 9:07 PM
I don't understand the seeding system for this year's competition. I read on Derry City Chat that the League of Ireland teams to be seeded were Shamrock Rovers and Sligo Rovers yet Bohemians, last year's Setanta Cup winners are not. I recognize that the League and Cup winners from both sides of the border have been afforded the seed rankings but surely it would make more sense to give the Bohs the seeding.
PartySaint
13/12/2010, 9:23 PM
Pats fans will I'm sure be made welcome I know the Cork boys that were up enjoyed themselves anyway.
Theres been a connection dating back to the 70s I think but yeah a lot don't really care and some want nothing to do with Rovers, Theres a thread about this at the moment on the Cliftonville ILS forum wasn't at the match on friday night against Linfield but apparently there was some Rovers men up and a couple who were off their heads were acting up. I'm sure they are not representative of all Rovers fans though and I'm not having a go like every team has undesireable elements in its support!
I believe Cliftonville played Pats in a friendly a few years ago was there much of a crowd down for that then?
Did yous not have an connection with Bohs back then due to both of yous being an amateur club, Payed a friendly every season??
Delighted with that draw! Dundalk/Linfield had to happen! Cant wait for it
Dodge
13/12/2010, 10:24 PM
I don't understand the seeding system for this year's competition. I read on Derry City Chat that the League of Ireland teams to be seeded were Shamrock Rovers and Sligo Rovers yet Bohemians, last year's Setanta Cup winners are not. I recognize that the League and Cup winners from both sides of the border have been afforded the seed rankings but surely it would make more sense to give the Bohs the seeding.
I don't understand why its an issue.
League and cup winners north and sourth every year means there's no confusion (going forward)
Oldred
13/12/2010, 10:41 PM
I don't understand the seeding system for this year's competition. I read on Derry City Chat that the League of Ireland teams to be seeded were Shamrock Rovers and Sligo Rovers yet Bohemians, last year's Setanta Cup winners are not. I recognize that the League and Cup winners from both sides of the border have been afforded the seed rankings but surely it would make more sense to give the Bohs the seeding.
If Bohs are seeded then one of the League and Cup winning sides on some side of the border is not. Which one? I agree with Dodge. Keep it simple.
Boots9
13/12/2010, 11:06 PM
They're not popular with all their support though. There's a Pats fan who's a regular at Solitude. According to him most Cliftonville fan either dn't care about Rovers, or don't like them
The feelings mutual.
TenaciousDee
13/12/2010, 11:35 PM
I don't understand why its an issue.
League and cup winners north and south every year means there's no confusion (going forward)
Well in other cup contests such as The World Cup/ Euro Championship/ CL etc the winners have been giving a seeding, in this case it would be best to take away the cup holders of the country the team.... in fact I am going to stop there. Why am I defending Bohs?
PartySaint
13/12/2010, 11:38 PM
The feelings mutual.
I don't think it is...
Boots9
14/12/2010, 12:02 AM
I don't think it is...
Without trying to sound smart, I think I'd know better as a Rovers fan.
PartySaint
14/12/2010, 12:08 AM
Without trying to sound smart, I think I'd know better as a Rovers fan.
You probably do, I was just going by the Cliftonville thread on your last forum and the few Rovers fans I no seem to have a hard on for them for (it seems) no reason
Boots9
14/12/2010, 12:18 AM
You probably do, I was just going by the Cliftonville thread on your last forum and the few Rovers fans I no seem to have a hard on for them for (it seems) no reason
Yea your right there is a couple of dozen that have a hard on for Cliftonville, and in fairness they do go to their matches regularly, and vice-versa.
99% of Rovers fans don't give a **** about Cliftonville though, to them Cliftonville are just another team in another obscure league.
Personally, I don't like the Cliftonville fans that I've seen come down. Not that I've spoke with them, just judging on the way they go on at matches, and I'm sure the Cliftonville fans that don't like the Rovers fans that go up, would dislike them for the same reasons.
legendz
14/12/2010, 7:55 AM
Going forward, I think the final for the Setanta Cup should be played in the Aviva or Windsor. The last LoI vs IL final was played in Cork. The next final of LoI vs IL should be played in Windsor Park, then the Aviva for the next LoI vs IL final in the future after that. If two clubs from the same league make the final, play the final in their national stadium.
Mr_Parker
14/12/2010, 8:52 AM
Going forward, I think the final for the Setanta Cup should be played in the Aviva or Windsor. The last LoI vs IL final was played in Cork. The next final of LoI vs IL should be played in Windsor Park, then the Aviva for the next LoI vs IL final in the future after that. If two clubs from the same league make the final, play the final in their national stadium.
The Final is scheduled for Windsor as long as there is a nothern team in it.
legendz
14/12/2010, 9:39 AM
The Final is scheduled for Windsor as long as there is a nothern team in it.
That's good. If it's two League of Ireland clubs, where will the final be played?
passinginterest
14/12/2010, 9:58 AM
That's good. If it's two League of Ireland clubs, where will the final be played?
Wembley.
legendz
14/12/2010, 10:16 AM
Wembley.
In exchange for the FA Cup final in the Aviva I guess!
Schumi
14/12/2010, 10:24 AM
Well in other cup contests such as The World Cup/ Euro Championship/ CL etc the winners have been giving a seeding
World cup holders don't even automatically qualify any more.
Mr_Parker
14/12/2010, 5:41 PM
That's good. If it's two League of Ireland clubs, where will the final be played?
Don't know. It wasn't stated.
That's good. If it's two League of Ireland clubs, where will the final be played?
Termonbarry
legendz
14/12/2010, 10:20 PM
Don't know. It wasn't stated.
I hope a move is made to play the finals in a national stadium every season. It'll be a good move for the competition.
I hope a move is made to play the finals in a national stadium every season. It'll be a good move for the competition.
Presumably you've never been to Windsor so.
Tallaght and Turners Cross may be smaller, but far better grounds
thischarmingman
15/12/2010, 10:31 AM
World cup holders don't even automatically qualify any more.
What? No Spain in the Setanta next year?! What a joke...
PartySaint
15/12/2010, 11:00 PM
What? No Spain in the Setanta next year?! What a joke...
Nah they just come into it the final, If they win 4-0 they play Linfield in the quarter final of the next setanta cup but if they only win 3-0 they play Sligo in the semi
marinobohs
16/12/2010, 11:22 AM
Nah they just come into it the final, If they win 4-0 they play Linfield in the quarter final of the next setanta cup but if they only win 3-0 they play Sligo in the semi
.... only after a three way playoff with France as 1998 world cup winners, of course, and Qatar
paudie
28/12/2010, 1:39 AM
Presumably you've never been to Windsor so.
Tallaght and Turners Cross may be smaller, but far better grounds
On the basis that NI play all their home games at Windsor you'd have to call it their national stadium. whether it is a decent ground is another matter, of course.
On the basis that NI play all their home games at Windsor you'd have to call it their national stadium. whether it is a decent ground is another matter, of course.
Which is my argument. Playing it in Windsor isn't necessarily a good move for the final
marinobohs
30/12/2010, 12:16 PM
Which is my argument. Playing it in Windsor isn't necessarily a good move for the final
+ 1. One decent stand does not a stadium make (as I know from Dayler). Was at Windsor last year when Bohs played there and the "away" stand was appalling. Fortunately the crowd was so miniscule that the "facilities" were not over tested but nowhere near as good as Turners cross or SDCC Stadium in my opinion.
EalingGreen
30/12/2010, 2:20 PM
+ 1. One decent stand does not a stadium make (as I know from Dayler). Was at Windsor last year when Bohs played there and the "away" stand was appalling. Fortunately the crowd was so miniscule that the "facilities" were not over tested but nowhere near as good as Turners cross or SDCC Stadium in my opinion.Which was the "away" stand? The Kop End, or the North Stand (i.e. Kop to your right)?
And what was it caused you to describe it as "appalling"?
(Genuine questions, btw)
marinobohs
04/01/2011, 2:19 PM
Which was the "away" stand? The Kop End, or the North Stand (i.e. Kop to your right)?
And what was it caused you to describe it as "appalling"?
(Genuine questions, btw)
Stand to left of Kop - so North Stand. Think it is where your fans go for matches V Linfield ? small enough Bohs crowd but no catering facilities at all apart from one man burger operation that ran out. Similarly no programmes avalablein that stand. Not difficult to deal with these issues (perhaps they deal better with bigger crowds ?) but was dissapointed by the place. Must say though the Kop stand did look impressive.
TenaciousDee
04/01/2011, 8:58 PM
World cup holders don't even automatically qualify any more.
However they are still seeded once they qualify.
bullit
07/01/2011, 7:35 PM
The dates for Dundalk’s two-legged Setanta Sports Cup tie with Linfield have been confirmed. The Lilywhites will travel to Windsor Park for the opening leg on Saint Valentine’s Day, Monday 14 February, with the return set for a fortnight later on Monday 28 February at Oriel Park. Both matches kick-off at 7.45pm. Note, a kick-off time may change in the event of a fixture being televised live
http://www.dundalkfc.com/home.asp
Ezeikial
30/01/2011, 2:48 AM
Report on Goodwill Trip to Windsor Park by Dundalk supporters:
DESSIE GORMAN CUP LAUNCHED
Dundalk FC and the DFC Trust would like to thank Linfield FC for their hospitality on Saturday during our goodwill visit prior to the Setanta Cup matches in February.. We will have a report and photos from the trip online soon. As part of proceedings the Dessie Gorman Cup was launched. This will see an annual friendship programme for youth players between the two clubs. MORE> (http://dundalkfc.com/news/110129_DessieGormanCup.asp)
.....Speaking at the launch, Gorman said: "It is a real honour to have a cup named after you, but particularly so for this annual event, which promotes friendship and understanding between different communities. My relationship with supporters at Dundalk and Linfield was exceptional; it is inspiring to see the supporters of both clubs mixing so well together here today. The Dunfield Youth Project was a groundbreaking initiative and it is very special to have that project celebrated through these new youth challenge matches that will promote greater cross-community appreciation and acceptance through sport.
http://dundalkfc.com/news/110129_DessieGormanCup.asp
Mr_Parker
30/01/2011, 9:38 AM
Report on Goodwill Trip to Windsor Park by Dundalk supporters:
http://dundalkfc.com/news/110129_DessieGormanCup.asp
Nice window dressing, but what a pity that for the actual game that supporters will be treated like cattle which could hardly be described as promoting "greater cross-community appreciation and acceptance through sport."
Ezeikial
31/01/2011, 3:16 PM
Nice window dressing, but what a pity that for the actual game that supporters will be treated like cattle which could hardly be described as promoting "greater cross-community appreciation and acceptance through sport."
The Goodwill trip was far from "window dressing" and simply is another step in the on-going close cooperation and ties between the two clubs. The Dessie Gorman Cup, which was announced as a celebration of the former Dunfield Youth Project, is about an annual friendship challenge between Dundalk and Linfield under-age teams.
The Dunfield Project was a shining example of what can be achieved on cross-border cross-community initiatives, despite the cycnicism that was shown form many others, especially amog non-Linfield people in Belfast.
There was a host a marvellous stories that were re-told on the day, including the infamous Jeff McNamara signing from Linfield to Dundalk on amateur forms, only for the 1997 promotion/relegation play-off with Waterford. As Waterford fans may painfully recall he scored twice for Dundalk, being man-of-the matches over the two games. Two games and two goals only for Dundalk and Jeff McNamara became a part of Dundalk folklore.
Last Saturdays trip also allowed some important new ground to be broken with the Mid Shankill Linfield Supporters Group hosting Dundalk fans in their club in the heart of the Shankill
but what a pity that for the actual game that supporters will be treated like cattle
The arrangements for the two Setanta Sports Cup games do have some restrictions in relation to the travel arrangements, but suggesting supporters will be treated like cattle is cycnical nonesense.
We could not have been treated with greater warmth, firiendship and genuine hospitality by the club and their supporters in Windsor Park last Saturday.
Mr_Parker
31/01/2011, 11:33 PM
Bohs may not field Setanta side
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0201/1224288693596.html
Mr_Parker
31/01/2011, 11:36 PM
The Goodwill trip was far from "window dressing" and simply is another step in the on-going close cooperation and ties between the two clubs. The Dessie Gorman Cup, which was announced as a celebration of the former Dunfield Youth Project, is about an annual friendship challenge between Dundalk and Linfield under-age teams.
The Dunfield Project was a shining example of what can be achieved on cross-border cross-community initiatives, despite the cycnicism that was shown form many others, especially amog non-Linfield people in Belfast.
Why has this alll suddenly been resurected...?
The arrangements for the two Setanta Sports Cup games do have some restrictions in relation to the travel arrangements, but suggesting supporters will be treated like cattle is cycnical nonesense.
Ask the Bluemen....
Schumi
01/02/2011, 12:00 AM
Bohs may not field Setanta side
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0201/1224288693596.html
UCD COULD be parachuted into the Setanta Sports CupOh ****, yeah.
Ezeikial
01/02/2011, 1:25 AM
Why has this alll suddenly been resurected...?
The Dunfield Youth Project has not been resurected.....it ran its course well. The Dessie Gorman Cup is a new annual friendship challenge for under-age. With the first competitive meeting between the two clubs in over 30 years looming, its very appropriate timing. Do you think it a bad thing?
Ask the Bluemen....
I did last Saturday in Windsor Park!! Many would prefer to be able to make independent travel arrangements, but EVERYONE I spoke to accepted the importance of having official travel arrangements.
Mr_Parker
01/02/2011, 6:09 PM
The Dunfield Youth Project has not been resurected.....it ran its course well. The Dessie Gorman Cup is a new annual friendship challenge for under-age. With the first competitive meeting between the two clubs in over 30 years looming, its very appropriate timing. Do you think it a bad thing?
I did last Saturday in Windsor Park!! Many would prefer to be able to make independent travel arrangements, but EVERYONE I spoke to accepted the importance of having official travel arrangements.
I suggest you have a read at a few of their forums!
Are Bohs missing from this photoshoot? Must be seriously considering pulling out
http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/watermarked-b/Library/SF673/485448.jpg
pineapple stu
02/02/2011, 11:32 AM
We're only here on a technicality. :)
EalingGreen
03/02/2011, 2:52 PM
Bohs may not field Setanta side
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0201/1224288693596.html
So Bohs may be replaced by UCD.
Should, as per another thread elsewhere, Sporting Fingal have gone out of existance* by the time of their game with Lisburn Distillery on Feb.14th, anyone got any idea who is likely to replace them?
* - Or at least be unable to field a team
ifk101
03/02/2011, 2:59 PM
Galway perhaps. If they don't go out of business, maybe Bray.
pineapple stu
03/02/2011, 3:01 PM
Other option is that Bohs do cobble a team together and we end up playing Distillery.
EalingGreen
03/02/2011, 3:48 PM
Other option is that Bohs do cobble a team together and we end up playing Distillery.Jeez, this is all getting a bit farcical.
I mean, IL fans have no right to point the finger at any other League when it comes to matters of administrative competence etc, but even with our much lesser means etc, our clubs generally manage to make it from one season to the next.
Patrick Dunne
03/02/2011, 4:08 PM
Galway United are looking forward to our maiden entry to the Setanta Cup.
Mr Maroon
03/02/2011, 5:18 PM
And we'll win the thing too!
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