Setanta Cup 2011

[pauliek]

The state of SDCC F.C. and the F.A.I.

[HulaHoop]

those other grounds you mentioned were decided upon as venues prior to the commencement of the tournaments.

You see that is where you are talking shíte. Are you seriously of the belief that the 2008 final was already decided on being played in Turners Cross before Cork City got to the final?

[bullit]

You see that is where you are talking shíte. Are you seriously of the belief that the 2008 final was already decided on being played in Turners Cross before Cork City got to the final?

Never be afraid to throw your own opinon in there Hula-Hoop and the reasons why and why-not ??

[White Horse]

You see that is where you are talking shíte. Are you seriously of the belief that the 2008 final was already decided on being played in Turners Cross before Cork City got to the final?

It was decided before the semi-final, if I recall.

But, ignore the facts if you wish.

It's my own fault for bringing up fair play with a Rovers fan. Moral relativism is the ethical standard applied in Talllaght.

[Charlie Darwin]

Does this really have to turn into a ****ing contest? The moment you bring up moral relativism you've probably elevated this conversation to an intellectual level it doesn't deserve.

[Dunny]

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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

[bullit]

Does this really have to turn into a ****ing contest? The moment you bring up moral relativism you've probably elevated this conversation to an intellectual level it doesn't deserve.
Brill,Kill them with words the poor fools !!
Your more full of it than the people you attack ??

[micls]

It was decided before the semi-final, if I recall.

But, ignore the facts if you wish.

It's my own fault for bringing up fair play with a Rovers fan. Moral relativism is the ethical standard applied in Talllaght.

What facts?

TC was not named the official venue til after the semi final. It was talked about before the semi that if we won it would be in TC but it wasn't announced. Even if it had been I'm not sure how this would be any fairer? Given it was dependent on us being in the final. It's absolutely no different from this situation with Tallaght.

If you have any actual facts about the finals before that links would be welcome. Given the rubbish being posted I'm skeptical about the claims of them all being fixed before the competition started as claimed above.

[passerrby]

althought it has to be tallagh it is unfair as it is ther hoops home ground and nothing will change that

[Ezeikial]

What facts?

TC was not named the official venue til after the semi final. It was talked about before the semi that if we won it would be in TC but it wasn't announced. Even if it had been I'm not sure how this would be any fairer? Given it was dependent on us being in the final. It's absolutely no different from this situation with Tallaght.


Putting any weight on "precedents" of decisions involving that august body of football decision makers in this country is not particularly wise.

In any case it is probable that the finalists agreed to the arrangements previously. Dundalk are objecting to this unfair advantage and rightly so.

Common sense tells you that the home side has a advantage and a better chance of scooping the additional €20k prizemoney. The fans of the away team also have to stump up extra cash to travel.

If there is no willingness to apply sporting fair play the least that can be done is to provide some financial consideration to Dundalk

[avvenalaf]

Arrah, fcuk it, play it in Santry and give the Sporting Fingal fans a chance to see it.

[El-Pietro]

does no one remember how annoyed Glentoran were in 2008? Setanta will play the final where suits them, and no one else.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/cross-words-from-glentoran-over-setanta-sports-cup-venue-14003784.html

[Ezeikial]

does no one remember how annoyed Glentoran were in 2008? Setanta will play the final where suits them, and no one else.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/cross-words-from-glentoran-over-setanta-sports-cup-venue-14003784.html

Interesting article - it appears that Glentoran had every reason to be livid - maybe if they boycotted that final things would have been different then and now.

Previous unfair or outrageous decisions do not justify further unfair ones.

[micls]

Putting any weight on "precedents" of decisions involving that august body of football decision makers in this country is not particularly wise.

In any case it is probable that the finalists agreed to the arrangements previously. Dundalk are objecting to this unfair advantage and rightly so.

Common sense tells you that the home side has a advantage and a better chance of scooping the additional €20k prizemoney. The fans of the away team also have to stump up extra cash to travel.

If there is no willingness to apply sporting fair play the least that can be done is to provide some financial consideration to Dundalk

You're the one that claimed precedence was in ye're favour a such.As pointed out above the teams did not agree. I'm simply pointing out it isn't and that the SSC have never been bother about being fair. why would they suddenly start now because it's Dundalk complaining? Glentoran had to travel the length of the country and no one cared, they won't care about ye're complaints either.

It may not be right but basically it's their competition and they can do what they want. It's not the first time it' happened, and no one backed Glentoran when they were complaining. As usual people only complain when it affects their team.

[Dodge]

Interesting article - it appears that Glentoran had every reason to be livid - maybe if they boycotted that final things would have been different then and now.


if they boycotted the final then, the tournament was finished. It was touch and go whether it'd come back for 2009 as it was

[micls]

if they boycotted the final then, the tournament was finished. It was touch and go whether it'd come back for 2009 as it was


Agreed. But they were never gonna boycott that game. The money was better then and they weren't going to turn it down.

[HulaHoop]

does no one remember how annoyed Glentoran were in 2008? Setanta will play the final where suits them, and no one else.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/cross-words-from-glentoran-over-setanta-sports-cup-venue-14003784.html


So the Dundalk fans on this thread who claimed the venues of previous finals were either decided before the finalists became known or by a toss of a coin were talking bóllocks then. Glad we cleared that up.

Bottom line is, Oriel, Dalymount, Tolka, Richmond are old run down grounds that shouldn't be hosting a cup final. With the Aviva and RDS unavailable that weekend it leaves a choice of Tallaght or Turners Cross. Quite an obvious decision really.

[Dunny]

Tallaght it is..


The Setanta Sports Cup organising committee have announced that the 2011 Setanta Sports Cup Final between Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers will take place at Tallaght Stadium on Saturday, 14th May with a kick-off time of 6.15 pm.

“It would have been difficult to pick these teams out from start but it should be a great final,” said organizing committee Chairman Milo Corcoran.

“Shamrock Rovers have been the team to beat recently having won the title last year while Dundalk have had a tremendous run to the final. Both sides will be going into the game with genuine expectations of lifting the trophy.

“In the interest of facilitating as many spectators as we could, Tallaght Stadium made the most sense as the venue for the final. It has all the facilities necessary and suitable to televise a final of this stature.”

Due to Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers meeting in the Setanta Sports Cup final, a number of changes have been made to the Airtricity League fixture list.

The Airtricity League Premier Division fixture between Shamrock Rovers and Derry City scheduled for Friday, 13th May has been rescheduled for Monday, 13th June at Tallaght Stadium with a kick-off time of 8.00 pm.

The Airtricity League Premier Division fixture between Dundalk and St Patrick’s Athletic scheduled for Friday, 13th May has been rescheduled for Monday, 13th June at Oriel Park with a kick-off time of 7.45 pm.

Meanwhiule, the Airtricity League Premier Division fixture between Derry City and Drogheda United scheduled for Monday, 9th May will now take place on Tuesday, 10th May at Brandywell Stadium with a kick-off time of 7.45 pm.

[Ezeikial]

Now Confirmed as Tallaght by FAI press statement

[mypost]

“In the interest of facilitating as many spectators as we could, Tallaght Stadium made the most sense as the venue for the final. It has all the facilities necessary and suitable to televise a final of this stature.”

Bingo.

Dundalk will have their home game against us next weekend and will have to make do with that.

[Financial Stew]

[QUOTE=HulaHoop;1479109]Bottom line is, Oriel, Dalymount, Tolka, Richmond are old run down grounds that shouldn't be hosting a cup final. QUOTE]

Listen Hula your'e talking through your Hoop, groundwise Rover's are all furcoat & no knickers

[White Horse]

Bingo.

Dundalk will have their home game against us next weekend and will have to make do with that.

Do you lecture in condescention?

And I thought Sligo fans were exaggerating.

It is nothing new for Dundalk to have to take on the competition organisers and their opponents.

We're coming to your rented council pitch and that trophy is coming back with us.

[Charlie Darwin]

Can somebody explain to me what's so bad about renting a pitch? It's a fairly normal arrangement in most countries.

[Ezeikial]

Can somebody explain to me what's so bad about renting a pitch? It's a fairly normal arrangement in most countries.

Charlie - nothing wrong with renting at all.

IMO the reactions are totally due to the arrogance of many Rovers fans

[mypost]

Can somebody explain to me what's so bad about renting a pitch? It's a fairly normal arrangement in most countries.

Unlike those countries, we paddies are pre-programmed to need his own blade of grass, you see.

Mightn't have facilities, or cash, or even a good team, but at least he can put his stake in the ground, and declare "That's my patch". So he's happy.

Not something restricted to football, mind.

[BonnieShels]

does no one remember how annoyed Glentoran were in 2008? Setanta will play the final where suits them, and no one else.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/cross-words-from-glentoran-over-setanta-sports-cup-venue-14003784.html

I'd be more annoyed if my article was sharing a page with Lingerie Football...

[The Lep]

Arrah, fcuk it, play it in Santry and give the Sporting Fingal fans a chance to see it.

Thanks, but you do know that we have cars and are allowed on public transport and dont all live in Santry dont you ? :)

[Charlie Darwin]

Charlie - nothing wrong with renting at all.

IMO the reactions are totally due to the arrogance of many Rovers fans
It's no reason to respond in kind though, is it? From my experience, neither Rovers nor Dundalk fans are anything like as snappy as they are on these yonder forums.


Unlike those countries, we paddies are pre-programmed to need his own blade of grass, you see.

Mightn't have facilities, or cash, or even a good team, but at least he can put his stake in the ground, and declare "That's my patch". So he's happy.

Not something restricted to football, mind.
God, don't get me started. Irony is that the land the council took over to build the stadium is worth significantly less than it is now.

[avvenalaf]

Thanks, but you do know that we have cars and are allowed on public transport and dont all live in Santry dont you ? :)

Where do the other two live?

[The Lep]

You are not too good at that Wumming lark are you :)

[harleyleeds]

You are not too good at that Wumming lark are you :)

Out of curiosity do you follow Shams (or someone else) now or just maybe go to whatever games . This is not a wum Im just asking , like do you think SPF will ever return or have you another team now or had one before. I see you keep your avatar.

[The Lep]

I'll answer that in a PM and not on this thread with the question being off topic and all that :)

[Dunny]

Out of curiosity do you follow Shams (or someone else) now or just maybe go to whatever games . This is not a wum Im just asking , like do you think SPF will ever return or have you another team now or had one before. I see you keep your avatar.

He's Tom the Goms apprentice.

[HomerJay]

I'll answer that in a PM and not on this thread with the question being off topic and all that :)
Byt, it's something we all want to know. :D

[harleyleeds]

Still waiting, promise I wouldnt reveal. It could be like a whodunnit kind of mystery. My bucks on Shams. this is all just fun now ok.

[The Lep]

I still cant see what it has to do with the Setanta cup 2011.

[BonnieShels]

I still cant see what it has to do with the Setanta cup 2011.


God how we've missed ya man! How's tricks?

:O

[harleyleeds]

I still cant see what it has to do with the Setanta cup 2011.
Nothing was just curious what someone whos team dissapeared would do. I dont see why you wouldnt say but ill certainly drop it.

[GCdfc]

Hey,

I'm in Boston for the match. Does anyone know any pubs with Setanta?

[londonhoop]

Setanta no longer operate in North America.
http://www.premiumsportsinc.com/index.html
would be your best bet.

[GCdfc]

Setanta no longer operate in North America.
http://www.premiumsportsinc.com/index.html
would be your best bet.

Thanks londonhoop. Unfortunately they are not showing it.

[Cuyahoga]

Tickets for the setanta cup final will be going on sale to shamrock rovers fans tomorrow.Members and season ticket holders will be sold tickets first. Approx 3,000 tkts are available and is expected to sell out. Rovers have the east stand and Dundalk have the west stand (main stand). West stand holds slightly more than East stand.

[White Horse]

Nice 12 page pullout on the Setanta Cup Final in this weeks Democrat.

Includes:
- Question and answers interview with Ian Foster about the cup final and his future.
- Physio Paul Cheshire gives the latest on the injury front.
- General Manager Paul Johnston talks about Dundalk's progress over the last three years.
- Simon Madden on why Saturday will feel like a home game.
- Nathan Murphy, Johnny Breen and Stephen McDonnell talk about emulating the 2002 FAI Cup win.
- Keith Ward on why he really must win the cup.
- Colin Hawkins talks about wiping out his memories of 2002.
- Tolka Park 2002 in pictures.
- From Windsor Park to Tallaght
- Mark Quigley and Jason Byrne give their thoughts
- Dundalk v Rovers: A look back at previous cup finals
- Will Dundalk win the cup? The fans give their opinions!

[Ezeikial]

Jason Byrne says that Dundalk “deserve” their day in the sun after “being through the mill in the last few years”, as he set his aim to silence Shamrock Rovers. The Tallaght native was looking ahead to Saturday’s Setanta Sports Cup final, the Lilywhites’ first cup final in nine years
http://www.dundalkfc.com/byrne-aims-to-silence-rovers-on-deserved-day-for-dundalk


Keith Ward says that Dundalk’s young squad have “no fear” of Shamrock Rovers or Tallaght Stadium as they prepare for Saturday’s Setanta Sports Cup final. Ward is one of 12 players in Ian Foster’s 19-man squad that are 23 or under, and he admits that he is “buzzing” for his first ever cup final, stating that “that’s why I wanted to come here”.
http://www.dundalkfc.com/ward-has-no-fear-as-young-guns-target-trophy

Dundalk FC duo Peter Cherrie and Shane Guthrie will enter Saturday’s final with contrasting cup fortunes on their mind. Cherrie was part of the Clyde team that beat all the odds to dump Celtic out of the Scottish Cup in 2006, while Guthrie suffered Setanta Sports Cup heartache last season with Saint Patrick’s Athletic. The pair were part of a defence that secured the club back-to-back clean-sheets for the first time in a year last weekend, and now they are out to continue their fine recent form when they tackle Shamrock Rovers at Tallaght Stadium.
http://www.dundalkfc.com/cup-experience-counts-for-cherrie-guthrie

[Quayman]

Cannot wait for this match. I know alot of people rank it down their list but our last final was back in 2002 and that was one ehck of a match. C'mon the town!

[Ezeikial]

More super previews from dundalkfc.com:

Hawkins Wants Fans To Be “Unbelievable” 12th Man Again

Colin Hawkins has called on Dundalk fans to repeat the “unbelievable” support which roared them to victory in the 2002 FAI Cup final, when he was in the colours of Bohemians. Garry Haylock was the Lilywhites’ hero that day as he netted either side of the break to deny Hawkins the Cup which, nine years on, he has still yet to win. Having lost the decider with Shelbourne in 2005, the Setanta Sports Cup is also a trophy that eludes the Galway man’s grasp, but he is hoping that he can now get his hands on it with the help of a 12th man.
http://www.dundalkfc.com/hawkins-wants-fans-to-be-unbelievable-12th-man-again

Hector Out to Bury Tallaght “Demons”
On Saturday, it will be 71 days since Michael Hector made a nightmare debut for Dundalk, against Shamrock Rovers at Tallaght Stadium. Ten weeks on and the 18-year-old is riding high after a number of impressive performances, with the young defender being rewarded with the club’s April Player of the Month award, while he added his first two goals for the Lilywhites in last week’s win in Galway. But there is some unfinished business for Hector, who is looking to “bury the demons” of Tallaght in the most spectacular fashion, by claiming his first senior medal.
http://www.dundalkfc.com/hector-out-to-bury-tallaght-demons

“This is What You Play Football For” – Bolger
Greg Bolger would not rather be anywhere else on Saturday evening, with the young midfielder stating “this is what you play football for”, before he declared that the Lilywhites are only “in second gear”. The 22-year-old has had a troublesome start to the year, with the demise of Sporting Fingal just three weeks before the start of the Premier Division season. Ian Foster acquired his services within 24 hours, but after a bright start he suffered a grade two strain to his thigh muscle in late March which ruled him out for almost six weeks, during which time the Lilywhites played ten games.
http://www.dundalkfc.com/this-is-what-you-play-football-for-bolger

[hoopy]

Not sure what your plans are for the pub beforehand, but the cops can be particular in some games (Bohs, Pats etc) and insist in only Rovers fans in the Maldron. Now none of you might want to go there anyway to make that situation immaterial, but if you're making the day of it it might be better to go somewhere not as close to the ground to enable youse to relax proper with a few bevvies.

[White Horse]

Not sure what your plans are for the pub beforehand, but the cops can be particular in some games (Bohs, Pats etc) and insist in only Rovers fans in the Maldron. Now none of you might want to go there anyway to make that situation immaterial, but if you're making the day of it it might be better to go somewhere not as close to the ground to enable youse to relax proper with a few bevvies.

There has been quite a bit of discussion on our forum about pre-match refreshment and the Maldron and a couple of others were ruled out as being Rovers places.

Some Rovers fans suggested Grumpy's?

We're looking at bringing around 2,500 fans, based on latest figures.

Great atmosphere in the town, black and white flags everywhere. Here's to a good match!

[PartySaint]

Not sure what your plans are for the pub beforehand, but the cops can be particular in some games (Bohs, Pats etc) and insist in only Rovers fans in the Maldron. Now none of you might want to go there anyway to make that situation immaterial, but if you're making the day of it it might be better to go somewhere not as close to the ground to enable youse to relax proper with a few bevvies.

Just on this, Pats fans never have any problems getting in the Maldron before games in Tallaght, I usually have a few pints in there before the games (even tho they are **** poor)

[Conroy]

Theres 4-5 buses i know of heading Aherns pub for the FA cup. Leaving town at 1.