Westport United FC

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It should be a cracker! Well done yesterday! See you in a few weeks!

Read the CT re objections over your proposed move to the country side.Seems the locals not to happy due to flood plains etc.Seems serious. Whats the up date.

[Thunderblaster]

Read the CT re objections over your proposed move to the country side.Seems the locals not to happy due to flood plains etc.Seems serious. Whats the up date.

We did expect a certain individual to object and we are not one bit surprised by his actions. Besides, nearly all the residents in that particular area welcomes our development, so this guy is actually in a minority situation. We know his politics, but we are not going to aggravate the situation here as it may compromise the club's situation with An Bord Pleanala.

[Thunderblaster]

On the day of the AGM, the club is likely to have two underage teams playing: the U.12s away to Ballinasloe Town and the U.16s at home to Mervue United. Certainly would curtail the attendance of the representatives from those age groups.

[Thunderblaster]

It should be a cracker! Well done yesterday! See you in a few weeks!


Looking forward to the game. Will be hi-jacked by the Spirit of '87 brigade, getting nostalgic and sentimental. Should be a home win.

[west awake]

Looking forward to the game. Will be hi-jacked by the Spirit of '87 brigade, getting nostalgic and sentimental. Should be a home win.i wouldn't be so confident tb,mervue and corrib rangers both beat ye in the connacht cup in the last few years and west would be a good bit stronger than those 2,there's no doubt that ye will be favourites,but this west team is improving alot and would still be in the fai junior,if arguably 3 of there best 5 players were not out injured against douglas hall who beat them on peno's,jonny o brien and brendan o connor both started for ye this year in the league,neither would get a sniff of the west starting 11 if everyone was fit,so i think it has the makings of a cracker,imo the winners of this game or athenry will win the connacht!

[Leveller]

i wouldn't be so confident tb,mervue and corrib rangers both beat ye in the connacht cup in the last few years and west would be a good bit stronger than those 2,there's no doubt that ye will be favourites,but this west team is improving alot and would still be in the fai junior,if arguably 3 of there best 5 players were not out injured against douglas hall who beat them on peno's,jonny o brien and brendan o connor both started for ye this year in the league,neither would get a sniff of the west starting 11 if everyone was fit,so i think it has the makings of a cracker,imo the winners of this game or athenry will win the connacht!

The only reason that BOC started is because he picked himself, he was not good enough for the squad, never mind the team. JOB in mine and others opinion not great, he has a great engine, but he gives the ball away continually, he is good for the odd goal.

The squad are now a 100% fitter outfit, with the dynamic duo back at the helm, they were playing all summer at 70% fitness with BOC.

They are ready.

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The only reason that BOC started is because he picked himself, he was not good enough for the squad, never mind the team. JOB in mine and others opinion not great, he has a great engine, but he gives the ball away continually, he is good for the odd goal.

The squad are now a 100% fitter outfit, with the dynamic duo back at the helm, they were playing all summer at 70% fitness with BOC.

They are ready.
The reason they were at 70% fitness was because thats all they needed to win the Mayo SL, same will do again this year. Best team in Mayo at the moment but Celtic are bitting at their heels, but a couple of years behind in development of their squad (still too young). If you say that they are back to their best West Utd are in for a tough afternoon.

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i wouldn't be so confident tb,mervue and corrib rangers both beat ye in the connacht cup in the last few years and west would be a good bit stronger than those 2,there's no doubt that ye will be favourites,but this west team is improving alot and would still be in the fai junior,if arguably 3 of there best 5 players were not out injured against douglas hall who beat them on peno's,jonny o brien and brendan o connor both started for ye this year in the league,neither would get a sniff of the west starting 11 if everyone was fit,so i think it has the makings of a cracker,imo the winners of this game or athenry will win the connacht!
Time will tell if you are as good as Mervue in their prime. I agree that the winner looks like coming from your half of the draw. The othe side will be either Ballinasloe, Castlebar Celtic, Corrib Rangers or Abbey. With regard injuries its all about having a decent squad to fill the gaps like Utd can.

[Leveller]

The reason they were at 70% fitness was because thats all they needed to win the Mayo SL, same will do again this year. Best team in Mayo at the moment but Celtic are bitting at their heels, but a couple of years behind in development of their squad (still too young). If you say that they are back to their best West Utd are in for a tough afternoon.

I think it had alot to do with the manager not training them adequately. Also the players were getting away with a more active social life, a social life, which they will be allowed to have under the duo, but more moderately and when the time is right.

The Celtic squad should mature nicely over the next couple of years, this will concern Westport as there is not much talent coming through in the immediate future, at the younger age groups there is though.

[Thunderblaster]

there is not much talent coming through in the immediate future, at the younger age groups there is though.


Let's hope your prophecy is correct.

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Let's hope your prophecy is correct.
What I have seen there is one or two nice players coming up but not enough to compete with what Celtic are producing at the same time (better U-14 team). But Youths are doing the right things and I hope they will get a another group of quality players that their efforts deserve. But dont see it at the moment. Have a decent U-12 team at the moment but well behind Celtic at present.

[Leveller]

What I have seen there is one or two nice players coming up but not enough to compete with what Celtic are producing at the same time (better U-14 team). But Youths are doing the right things and I hope they will get a another group of quality players that their efforts deserve. But dont see it at the moment. Have a decent U-12 team at the moment but well behind Celtic at present.

From what I am being told by people, in light of the new development, there are genuine moves to improve the club in all areas. These normally cynical people tell me they have genuine belief in what is happening at the moment.

[quay heart]

From what I am being told by people, in light of the new development, there are genuine moves to improve the club in all areas. These normally cynical people tell me they have genuine belief in what is happening at the moment.

very true on the development of grounds its very exciting.however unless the youth set up changes we will never have players going up to junior team.im sorry for harping on all the time but not one under age team is being coached properly.three or four coaches have qualifications thats it, too many daddys coaching their kids.if you want your son too swim you dont send him to a golf coach.

[Fireball]

The otherside of that coin is that not every coach with Kickstarts etc can coach at underage either. It takes more than a folder gained over a weekend to be able to do it successfully.

While not knowing about the Westport situation, I fully agree that coaches only interested in coaching their kids' teams should be strongly discouraged. It helps no one from my experience.

[Thunderblaster]

While not knowing about the Westport situation, I fully agree that coaches only interested in coaching their kids' teams should be strongly discouraged. It helps no one from my experience.

Mossy Lally has raised that issue on the Mayo News.

[taztkblue]

what does mossey lally know? you probabley never kicked a ball in your life either. if your going to quote someone use someone that knows what their talking about!

[Thunderblaster]

what does mossey lally know?

If you think that Mossy Lally is a buffoon, that is your opinion, if others think that Mossy Lally has a broad knowledge of the game, that is the opinions of others. It doesn't matter what he knows or what he doesn't know; at least he loves the game and is passionate about the game.


you probabley never kicked a ball in your life either.

Attack the post, not the poster. Whether someone played football or not is not relavent to Mossy's article.


if your going to quote someone use someone that knows what their talking about!

What Mossy wrote on the Mayo News was noted, not quoted. The only reason that this piece was lifted was because of a discussion about parents managing their kids. The author is not the key relavence here, it is the fact that he covered a topic that has been discussed not only on foot.ie, but on the streets of Westport.

[the 12 th man]

what does mossey lally know? you probabley never kicked a ball in your life either. if your going to quote someone use someone that knows what their talking about!


Make your points properly taztkblue, not just trolling sweeping statements or you won't be kicking anybody else around here.

[taztkblue]

i stand over my post, my points were made properly and i have no intention of ('kicking'?)anybody else around here. By the way TB from reading other forums ye're no angel yourself when it comes to trolling sweeping insults which the 12th man has been very slow to issue you with a caution.

[Leveller]

very true on the development of grounds its very exciting.however unless the youth set up changes we will never have players going up to junior team.im sorry for harping on all the time but not one under age team is being coached properly.three or four coaches have qualifications thats it, too many daddys coaching their kids.if you want your son too swim you dont send him to a golf coach.

It is a trend for parents to specifically get involved with teams that have their children playing. This is a common situation in many clubs.

I suppose the problem is one of recruitment, and getting others to get involved who have something to offer and dont have kids or at least ones which are involved with the specific team they are looking after. Parents of players, I believe, in most cases are the only ones willing to do the job.

I thinks there are plenty of people out there which can help but need to be approached, in what is a vital area.

[Leveller]

what does mossey lally know? you probabley never kicked a ball in your life either. if your going to quote someone use someone that knows what their talking about!

You dont have to play competitively to know the game, sometimes its an advantage. Many great managers had limited involvement with the game on a playing level, Mourihno, Wenger, Eriksson, to name a few.

ML has a great knowledge of the game and has a love for it, anyone who reads his articles can see this, and through his work at his club, he has been successful.

He has, and is, doing a great service to Mayo soccer.

[taztkblue]

wenger, mourihno and eriksson all played pro football!

[Thunderblaster]

wenger, mourihno and eriksson all played pro football!

Check out their playing careers.



Mourinho's short playing career consisted of a few generally unsuccessful spells at small and medium sized Portuguese clubs during the years he was studying. He joined the youth team of Belenenses, and then played for Rio Ave F.C.. He later returned to Lisbon's Belenenses. Without success as a player, he ended his career playing for small amateur teams such as Sesimbra and Comércio e Indústria.


Wenger's playing career was relatively inauspicious. He began as a defender for various amateur clubs while studying at the Institut Européen d'Etudes Commerciales Supérieures de Strasbourg of Robert Schuman University, where he completed a masters degree in 1971.

Wenger turned professional in 1978, making his debut for RC Strasbourg against Monaco [6]. He only made twelve appearances for the team, including two as they won the Ligue 1 title in 1978-79, and played once in the UEFA Cup in the same season, his only taste of European football.[citation needed] In 1981, he obtained a manager's diploma and was appointed the coach of the club's youth team.


Born in Torsby, in Värmland, Eriksson had an unremarkable playing career playing as a right-back[3] in the lower divisions of Swedish football. The highest level he played at was Division 2 with KB Karlskoga, where he met Tord Grip, before being forced to retire prematurely due to a knee injury in 1975,[4] aged only 27.

Neither made a serious impact playing.

[taztkblue]

can you not read?-all three played pro football. you and mossy played zero football. (can't believe i'm even discussing this.)bye.

[Leveller]

can you not read?-all three played pro football. you and mossy played zero football. (can't believe i'm even discussing this.)bye.

I can read, they played very limited football, there are plenty of great players who did not have success at management( ie Phil Neal, Lothar Mattaeus, Bobby Charlton).

The fact remains Mossy has been successful at his club with a low population base, and is a great servant to the game, and alot more of us think the world of him, than are critical.

Bye, good riddance...

[the grape vine]

I can read, they played very limited football, there are plenty of great players who did not have success at management( ie Phil Neal, Lothar Mattaeus, Bobby Charlton).

The fact remains Mossy has been successful at his club with a low population base, and is a great servant to the game, and alot more of us think the world of him, than are critical.

Bye, good riddance...

very well said !!

[Macc74]

can you not read?-all three played pro football. you and mossy played zero football. (can't believe i'm even discussing this.)bye.

John Barnes, Bryan Robson, Steve Staunton are some more PROS who were amateurs when it came to management!

How many more Pros were there, that couldn't hack it in management.

[taztkblue]

John Barnes, Bryan Robson, Steve Staunton are some more PROS who were amateurs when it came to management!

How many more Pros were there, that couldn't hack it in management.

name me one manager that never kicked a football?

[taztkblue]

I can read, they played very limited football, there are plenty of great players who did not have success at management( ie Phil Neal, Lothar Mattaeus, Bobby Charlton).

The fact remains Mossy has been successful at his club with a low population base, and is a great servant to the game, and alot more of us think the world of him, than are critical.

Bye, good riddance...

the facts are manulla have probably the largest population base to pick from with players from manulla,belcarra,balla,castlebar,ballyglass,mayo abbey,ballyvary,bohola,knock,achill,claremorris,br eaffy and ballyheane playing for them under his management. he underachieved with those players and most of them will tell you that he was not a good manager. nice lad yes- good manager no!

[Thunderblaster]

Not forgetting Roy Hodgson, who played non league football and went onto guide Switzerland to their first World Cup finals in 28 years, managed Inter Milan and nearly got Finland into Euro 2008. As for managers involved in football that never kicked a ball in their lives? There are lots of them. Clubs are crying out for volunteers and there are coaching courses on a regular basis. The Kick Start One course encourages parents and teachers that never played football, but give a hand, to do these courses and get more proactively involved in the game.

[Thunderblaster]

U.16 Connacht Cup QF against Mervue in the Sports Park on Saturday at 2:00.

Hard luck to the U.12s in Ballinasloe on Sunday.

[gunner1]

I can read, they played very limited football, there are plenty of great players who did not have success at management( ie Phil Neal, Lothar Mattaeus, Bobby Charlton).

The fact remains Mossy has been successful at his club with a low population base, and is a great servant to the game, and alot more of us think the world of him, than are critical.

Bye, good riddance...

can some one tell me what success ml has had ???(at any level) apart from writing s***e in the mayo post....................

[gunner1]

the facts are manulla have probably the largest population base to pick from with players from manulla,belcarra,balla,castlebar,ballyglass,mayo abbey,ballyvary,bohola,knock,achill,claremorris,br eaffy and ballyheane playing for them under his management. he underachieved with those players and most of them will tell you that he was not a good manager. nice lad yes- good manager no!

well said !

[irishyop]

can some one tell me what success ml has had ???(at any level) apart from writing s***e in the mayo post....................

Is it not the Mayo News there gunner1 ? ;)

[Macc74]

name me one manager that never kicked a football?

you have now gone from being a pro to be a manager to just kicking a ball!

Mossy, if your out there, have you EVER kicked a football, even when you were five or six , because if you have then it is ok, you are now qualified to be a manager!

[gunner1]

Is it not the Mayo News there gunner1 ? ;)

sorry,your right.

[irishyop]

sorry,your right.

An you dont like his non biased opinions in the Mayo News? ;)

[Leveller]

Not forgetting Roy Hodgson, who played non league football and went onto guide Switzerland to their first World Cup finals in 28 years, managed Inter Milan and nearly got Finland into Euro 2008. As for managers involved in football that never kicked a ball in their lives? There are lots of them. Clubs are crying out for volunteers and there are coaching courses on a regular basis. The Kick Start One course encourages parents and teachers that never played football, but give a hand, to do these courses and get more proactively involved in the game.

Well said, thanks for the help earlier.

[Leveller]

you have now gone from being a pro to be a manager to just kicking a ball!

Mossy, if your out there, have you EVER kicked a football, even when you were five or six , because if you have then it is ok, you are now qualified to be a manager!

Well done cove!

[Leveller]

can some one tell me what success ml has had ???(at any level) apart from writing s***e in the mayo post....................

He has been involved with a team which has survived in the Mayo League where similar sized clubs struggle.

He has been involved with a club which won FAI Club of the year, (ie they saw off every junior club in the country to win this award), that is success and great community effort.

I like what he has to say in the paper. Thats my opinion, we all know what yours is.

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Not forgetting Roy Hodgson, who played non league football and went onto guide Switzerland to their first World Cup finals in 28 years, managed Inter Milan and nearly got Finland into Euro 2008. As for managers involved in football that never kicked a ball in their lives? There are lots of them. Clubs are crying out for volunteers and there are coaching courses on a regular basis. The Kick Start One course encourages parents and teachers that never played football, but give a hand, to do these courses and get more proactively involved in the game.

A few managers as far I know did not play Pro football - Brian Kerr (won Interm. Cup with Bluebell), Craig Brown PE Teacher, Gerard Houllier, English Teacher.

[taztkblue]

[QUOTE=Leveller;876494]He has been involved with a team which has survived in the Mayo League where similar sized clubs struggle.

He has been involved with a club which won FAI Club of the year, (ie they saw off every junior club in the country to win this award), that is success and great community effort.

I like what he has to say in the paper. Thats my opinion, we all know what yours is.[/QUO

at last we're getting places. yes he did survive (underachieved) in the mayo league, yes he is a good clubman, yes he does write for your local rag and no he's not a good manager

[taztkblue]

you have now gone from being a pro to be a manager to just kicking a ball!

Mossy, if your out there, have you EVER kicked a football, even when you were five or six , because if you have then it is ok, you are now qualified to be a manager!

how's school going today?

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He has been involved with a team which has survived in the Mayo League where similar sized clubs struggle.

He has been involved with a club which won FAI Club of the year, (ie they saw off every junior club in the country to win this award), that is success and great community effort.

I like what he has to say in the paper. Thats my opinion, we all know what yours is.

ML has won as manager 2 possible 3 Super L and was in fact the first and only manager to win all three Mayo titles available (SL, Mayo Cup & League Cup) in the same season.
2 Quigley Cups (beating the National U-18 Champions Erris Utd in one). He also won the Premier League Cup this season. Not bad for a guy who is supposed to be clueless. I love is articles, written by a football man. His Uncle was also an excellent manager at Youth level with Celtic, so he has it in his blood.

[Leveller]

ML has won as manager 2 possible 3 Super L and was in fact the first and only manager to win all three Mayo titles available (SL, Mayo Cup & League Cup) in the same season.
2 Quigley Cups (beating the National U-18 Champions Erris Utd in one). He also won the Premier League Cup this season. Not bad for a guy who is supposed to be clueless. I love is articles, written by a football man. His Uncle was also an excellent manager at Youth level with Celtic, so he has it in his blood.

Thanks for that Closing.

Does this clarify matters Taxtblue?

[Leveller]

ML has won as manager 2 possible 3 Super L and was in fact the first and only manager to win all three Mayo titles available (SL, Mayo Cup & League Cup) in the same season.
2 Quigley Cups (beating the National U-18 Champions Erris Utd in one). He also won the Premier League Cup this season. Not bad for a guy who is supposed to be clueless. I love is articles, written by a football man. His Uncle was also an excellent manager at Youth level with Celtic, so he has it in his blood.

Thanks for that Closing.

Does this clarify matters Taxtblue? Can we leave poor Mossy alone?

[Leveller]

how's school going today?

Teaching a child like you?:eek:

Its never good!:D

[Thunderblaster]

can some one tell me what success ml has had ???(at any level) apart from writing s***e in the mayo post....................

JUNIOR

1987-88: Premier Division Champions
1991-92: Division 1 Champions
1994: Premier Division Champions
1995: Premier Division Champions; Touhy Cup Champions; Kilkelly Cup Champions (First club in Mayo to achieve Treble)
1997: Touhy Cup Winners
1999: TSB Super League Champions Westaro Cup Champions
2002: AIB Cup Champions
2007: Touhy Cup Winners (Manulla B)


YOUTHS

1989-90: Mayo U-15 B League Winners
1990-91: Mayo League Champions U-15
1992-93: Mayo League Champions U-16; Liberty Cup U-16 Winners
1994: Mayo League U-18 Winners; Quigley Cup Winners
1996: Division 2 Winners U-14
1997: Division 1 Winners U-12
1999: Division 1 Winners U-14
2003 Quigley Cup Winners U-18
2005 Division 1 Winners U-14

I think we have finally closed the book on this matter.

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JUNIOR

1987-88: Premier Division Champions
1991-92: Division 1 Champions
1994: Premier Division Champions
1995: Premier Division Champions; Touhy Cup Champions; Kilkelly Cup Champions (First club in Mayo to achieve Treble)
1997: Touhy Cup Winners
1999: TSB Super League Champions Westaro Cup Champions
2002: AIB Cup Champions
2007: Touhy Cup Winners (Manulla B)


YOUTHS

1989-90: Mayo U-15 B League Winners
1990-91: Mayo League Champions U-15
1992-93: Mayo League Champions U-16; Liberty Cup U-16 Winners
1994: Mayo League U-18 Winners; Quigley Cup Winners
1996: Division 2 Winners U-14
1997: Division 1 Winners U-12
1999: Division 1 Winners U-14
2003 Quigley Cup Winners U-18
2005 Division 1 Winners U-14

I think we have finally closed the book on this matter.
I think so well done TB

[taztkblue]

so mossy has been in charge of every manulla team for the last 21 years. TB i suggest you go back and reserch your information.