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EalingGreen
23/02/2021, 11:37 AM
Anyone know what the gk situation is at Derry City?
I know they've lost last year's regular gk, Cherrie, but given a contract to 20 y.o. Jack Lemoignan from nearby Newbuildings Utd (Intermediate), who has been training with them for a while.
JL suggests he'll be challenging Nathan Gartside (22) for the first team, but are DCFC really going to rely on two such inexperienced players, or will they sign s.o. else?
https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/jack-lemoignan-ready-for-friendship-battle-at-derry-city-3143109
https://www.facebook.com/onebigfamilynbe/
Anyone know what the gk situation is at Derry City?
I know they've lost last year's regular gk, Cherrie, but given a contract to 20 y.o. Jack Lemoignan from nearby Newbuildings Utd (Intermediate), who has been training with them for a while.
JL suggests he'll be challenging Nathan Gartside (22) for the first team, but are DCFC really going to rely on two such inexperienced players, or will they sign s.o. else?
https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/jack-lemoignan-ready-for-friendship-battle-at-derry-city-3143109
https://www.facebook.com/onebigfamilynbe/
We are going with the two young keepers is the consensus. Gartside is being given #1 jersey.
EalingGreen
23/02/2021, 12:01 PM
We are going with the two young keepers is the consensus. Gartside is being given #1 jersey.
Would that be financial, or is Gartside rated?
Would that be financial, or is Gartside rated?
Probably not financial as we have strengthened pretty significantly in other areas of the pitch and had Gartside and Lemoignan at the club alongsode Cherrie last season.
Gartside has done little or nothing wrong in the games he has played and has been with the club a while now so I assume he is highly enough thought of to be given his chance.
It must be stressed I am only taking a best guess at the thinking of management from what we have heard and seen in local media etc.
We really can’t do much worse than Cherrie did in the second half of last season.
Burnsie
23/02/2021, 2:05 PM
Paddy Barrett (ex Dundalk & Waterford) has signed for Pats.
Was playing in Cambodia most recently, and in the States prior to that
D24Saint
23/02/2021, 2:07 PM
Paddy Barrett confirmed aswell , Im happy with our days transfer business. I reckon another keeper in as backup and we are in good shape.
sbgawa
23/02/2021, 2:29 PM
Very different starting 11 in the first match against Rovers for Pats then at the end of last season
patsdad
23/02/2021, 3:23 PM
Very different starting 11 in the first match against Rovers for Pats then at the end of last season
Five who were regular starters are gone - Clarke, Feely, McNally, Gibson and Kelly.
The other six are still available - Desmond, Forrester, Benson, Griffin, Lennon, King. Probably 6 of the best 7/8 from that squad.
It seems to me we have strengthened signifcantly, which was needed.
Nesta99
23/02/2021, 4:20 PM
Barrett deputised well when at Dundalk. Will offer a threat too at attacking corners/frees. Pats looking like they will be less brittle in general this season.
Jack B
23/02/2021, 4:42 PM
Took us a while longer to win pre-season as we tend to every year but glad we've gotten there in the end.
Who was those two lads father? Name rings a bell think he made his debut aged 15 across the water.. He was a child prodigy but injury ended his career early. Think he was at Blackpool?
That’s Eamon you’re thinking of. Made his debut for Blackpool at 14 as I recall.
sulywaterfordfc
24/02/2021, 2:16 AM
Pats fans have any opinion on what to expect from Cian Kavanagh?
Bunny Kelly
24/02/2021, 8:41 AM
Cian Kavanagh or Cian Coleman? Cian Coleman was at Pats before going back to Cork, Cian Kavanagh was at Wexford last year & didn't exactly stand out
ForzaForth
24/02/2021, 8:54 AM
There are two Cian Kavanaghs - one who played for Pats and then went to Hearts and the second who was with Wexford for part of last year and also played for UCD, Shels & Shamrock Rovers.
2 Year Contract
24/02/2021, 9:18 AM
That’s Eamon you’re thinking of. Made his debut for Blackpool at 14 as I recall.
Correct, Eamonn came through Blackpool's academy before playing for other clubs. Coincidentally I saw this article on the family today, good read.
https://www.the42.ie/nathan-collins-profile-5358076-Feb2021/
2 Year Contract
24/02/2021, 9:22 AM
Pats fans have any opinion on what to expect from Cian Kavanagh?
Doubt there'd be many who have seen much of him as he was only a kid at pats. He came through the youth setup and was called up to the first team on a pro contract in 2019 at age 16 and played in a friendly against Cobh which he looked decent in, tall lad for his age and looked a decent dribbler. That was his only game as he signed for Hearts a few weeks later. Looking at pictures of him playing in Scotland he looks to have filled out a lot more and looks physically ready for the men’s game despite being only 18 still. I see Waterford announced him as an attacking midfielder, he was a striker with Pats and Hearts so either he must’ve started playing as an attacking midfielder at Cowdenbeath or else they’re mixing his position up with the other Cian Kavanagh that was at Wexford last year
Kiki Balboa
24/02/2021, 6:37 PM
Ronan Murray to Drogheda, that seems like a great signing.
2 Year Contract
24/02/2021, 6:40 PM
Ronan Murray to Drogheda, that seems like a great signing.
He didn’t really work out as a signing for Dundalk and was average at best with Sligo IMO. Was on trial with Pats and scored a penalty at the weekend, mustn’t have been offered a deal by O'Donnell. If he can get back to his form at Galway he'll be a brilliant signing for Drogheda, although easier said than done considering thats 4 years ago now
boynemunich
24/02/2021, 7:12 PM
Ronan Murray to Drogheda, that seems like a great signing.
Provides good depth especially if we ever want to play 2 up top. Dinny, Murray and Lyons are our strikers, doubt they'll set the league alight but should all chip in with a few each, hopefully enough to keep us up.
It was expected, but finally confirmed earlier today, Junior Ogedi-Uzokwe to Dundalk. That's striker no 4 now on the books.
https://www.dundalkfc.com/junior-signs-for-the-town/
Should be even better craic for the boys on DLK FM, 'Now its passed out from the back by Jurkovskis, but its been intercepted, now its headed clear by Nattestad who plays a nice ball back to Jurkovskis and he sends it wide and its picked up by Ogedi-Uzokwe who feeds the sub Midstkogen, and he holds it up for......................
sulywaterfordfc
24/02/2021, 8:11 PM
Waterford announced four loans this week.
Cameron Evans (Swansea- Season loan recall option in the summer)
Adam O’Reilly (Preston loan till the summer)
James Waite (Cardiff loan till the summer)
Jamie Macoll (Bolton loan till the summer)
There’s also a rumour Barry Ferguson’s son Kyle will sign for the club.
Martinho II
24/02/2021, 8:13 PM
Waterford announced four loans this week.
Cameron Evans (Swansea- Season loan recall option in the summer)
Adam O’Reilly (Preston loan till the summer)
James Waite (Cardiff loan till the summer)
Jamie Macoll (Bolton loan till the summer)
There’s also a rumour Barry Ferguson’s son Kyle will sign for the club.
Is he a younger brother of Evan whos gone to the UK?Barry was superb when he played with ourselves.
sbgawa
24/02/2021, 8:18 PM
It was expected, but finally confirmed earlier today, Junior Ogedi-Uzokwe to Dundalk. That's striker no 4 now on the books.
https://www.dundalkfc.com/junior-signs-for-the-town/
Should be even better craic for the boys on DLK FM, 'Now its passed out from the back by Jurkovskis, but its been intercepted, now its headed clear by Nattestad who plays a nice ball back to Jurkovskis and he sends it wide and its picked up by Ogedi-Uzokwe who feeds the sub Midstkogen, and he holds it up for......................
ever :)
Longfordian
24/02/2021, 8:22 PM
Is he a younger brother of Evan whos gone to the UK?Barry was superb when he played with ourselves.
I don't think he has a younger brother. If he does then he's only 15 or so at most. I assume it's Evan that the rumour is about.
2 Year Contract
24/02/2021, 8:43 PM
I don't think he has a younger brother. If he does then he's only 15 or so at most. I assume it's Evan that the rumour is about.
Its about the Scottish Barry Ferguson that played for rangers and Birmingham. His son Kyle last played in lower leagues in Sweden after being at Rangers I think it was as a kid
Longfordian
24/02/2021, 8:46 PM
Ah that makes a lot more sense.
nigel-harps1954
24/02/2021, 9:31 PM
If he's half as good as the lad we had from the Swedish fourth tier last season, Waterford will be delighted.
I think he made two sub appearances and was the worst player I think I've ever seen at this level. He was great in Sweden though...
Charlie Darwin
24/02/2021, 9:58 PM
It was expected, but finally confirmed earlier today, Junior Ogedi-Uzokwe to Dundalk. That's striker no 4 now on the books.
https://www.dundalkfc.com/junior-signs-for-the-town/
Should be even better craic for the boys on DLK FM, 'Now its passed out from the back by Jurkovskis, but its been intercepted, now its headed clear by Nattestad who plays a nice ball back to Jurkovskis and he sends it wide and its picked up by Ogedi-Uzokwe who feeds the sub Midstkogen, and he holds it up for......................
Derry got around this problem by only ever calling him Junior.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
25/02/2021, 6:34 AM
He didn’t really work out as a signing for Dundalk and was average at best with Sligo IMO. Was on trial with Pats and scored a penalty at the weekend, mustn’t have been offered a deal by O'Donnell. If he can get back to his form at Galway he'll be a brilliant signing for Drogheda, although easier said than done considering thats 4 years ago now
He was awful with us
Derry got around this problem by only ever calling him Junior.
And that's exactly how he will be referred to I reckon, also I'd say Nattestad will be Sonni, although not quite 'as hard' to pronounce.
Seems the feedback is Ogedi-Uzokwe was rated by Derry fans, where he finished LOI top scored in 2019, but not by Sligo last year.
nigel-harps1954
25/02/2021, 10:47 AM
Worth nothing that Junior only finished top scorer as a result of a hat-trick on the last day of the season against Harps reserves..
I know he was rated highly by Derry fans, but just never seen it myself. Surprised to see Dundalk signing him.
Presume the deal for the Korean lad hit work-permit issues and won't be happening?
Sonny
25/02/2021, 11:36 AM
Worth nothing that Junior only finished top scorer as a result of a hat-trick on the last day of the season against Harps reserves..
I know he was rated highly by Derry fans, but just never seen it myself. Surprised to see Dundalk signing him.
Bit of a bizarre signing really - a journeyman with one decent and one poor season in the LOI. Seeing as they have released Colovic and Oduwa and Junior is the only wide player they have signed you would think they will be playing with 3 at the back more often. Then again they only have 4 centre halves at the club, one of whom is Gartland who has visibly declined, and another who is a complete unknown quantity. I'm like a broken record at this stage but if I were a Dundalk fan I would be seriously unimpressed with the recruitment again. More than willing to eat my words if most of these wild punts turn out to be masterstrokes.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
25/02/2021, 12:24 PM
And that's exactly how he will be referred to I reckon, also I'd say Nattestad will be Sonni, although not quite 'as hard' to pronounce.
Seems the feedback is Ogedi-Uzokwe was rated by Derry fans, where he finished LOI top scored in 2019, but not by Sligo last year.
He certainly wasn’t worth the money we were supposedly paying him last year but still think he’s a good player. I could see him doing well at Dundalk.
Longfordian
25/02/2021, 1:36 PM
Is it me or are there more players coming in on loan from England than in previous windows? I see Pats just announced another one.
2 Year Contract
25/02/2021, 2:19 PM
Is it me or are there more players coming in on loan from England than in previous windows? I see Pats just announced another one.
Definitely looks that way alright, Waterford, Derry and Pats have a lot between them anyways.
Pats' latest is Nahum Melvin-Lambert, a striker on loan from Reading
nigel-harps1954
25/02/2021, 2:22 PM
There were plenty on loan from England and Scotland last year too, in fairness. I think we're just paying closer attention to it this year because of Brexit.
Longfordian
25/02/2021, 3:08 PM
Maybe I'm just paying more attention to the premier division teams this year.
Lim till i die
25/02/2021, 3:28 PM
National Leagues North and South being cancelled probably means more players available as well.
joey B
25/02/2021, 3:37 PM
Richie Towell signing for Rovers in the summer,could be a huge addition that.....
D24Saint
25/02/2021, 3:57 PM
Nahum melvin-lambert in from reading on loan. He is an 18 year old striker and signed a new pro contract before the loan move. He made is first team debut this season. He looks an exciting young player.
sbgawa
25/02/2021, 4:00 PM
Richie Towell signing for Rovers in the summer,could be a huge addition that.....
Wow that would be a coup if true.
Daniel McDonnell normally is pretty reliable
Nesta99
25/02/2021, 4:29 PM
Rovers starting to look like a Dundalk alumni club. Well I suppose if you want to dominate an era ye could sign up players from a team that already has dominated an era!
Havent seen Towell with Salford so no idea about his form/fitness but if he is anywhere near the player he was when at Dundalk it could be a potential game changer. Maybe he has signed a precontract but if not he could trigger a bit of a bidding war on his wages and it would be foolish for Dundalk not to at least suss him out though he wouldnt have to bother with any real commute if going to Rovers. All the more reason why Dundalk need to be quick out of the traps - not easy when there is turn over of players in the squad and the main rivals being pretty settled. Word on the vine is that the players are very impressed with this new striker and think he will be a hit. If that turns out to be the case then we have 3 good goal threats to pick from. Id hope that players will have shaken off some of the niggle injuries though preseason doesnt fill me with hope on that so far. Then its down really to whether there is real quality in signings at the back starting with the keeper.
ontheotherhand
25/02/2021, 4:44 PM
Rovers starting to look like a Dundalk alumni club. Well I suppose if you want to dominate an era ye could sign up players from a team that already has dominated an era!
Havent seen Towell with Salford so no idea about his form/fitness but if he is anywhere near the player he was when at Dundalk it could be a potential game changer. Maybe he has signed a precontract but if not he could trigger a bit of a bidding war on his wages and it would be foolish for Dundalk not to at least suss him out though he wouldnt have to bother with any real commute if going to Rovers. All the more reason why Dundalk need to be quick out of the traps - not easy when there is turn over of players in the squad and the main rivals being pretty settled. Word on the vine is that the players are very impressed with this new striker and think he will be a hit. If that turns out to be the case then we have 3 good goal threats to pick from. Id hope that players will have shaken off some of the niggle injuries though preseason doesnt fill me with hope on that so far. Then its down really to whether there is real quality in signings at the back starting with the keeper.
From the reporting it sounds like Dundalk did try to suss him out and even made an offer but he chose Rovers. Will be interesting to see more on it. If Dundalk lost out due to offering one of their new short term deals it's a big mistake in my eyes because if Towell signs for Rovers I'd put us back as favourites for the league. We lost goals with Jack and Aaron and he will hopefully provide those from midfield, as well as depriving Dundalk of the boost.
Shaping up to be competitive anyway, especially if even half of Dundalk's Foreign Legion work out to be at the level required. Bohs will go further again I think so it will be a lot closer at the top. Sligo quietly going about their business too although still not ready for a top 3 push I don't think.
Yeah it sounds very much like he has turned down Dundalk. I think it is fair to say Dundalk as
of today are far from the Dundalk he left, and if the finances are relatively similar Rovers look the sensible choice.
I imagine it was sold to him as we really need you, you know we have lost Byrne etc come in and be our main man in there.
Nesta99
25/02/2021, 5:26 PM
But he isnt a former Irish international so doesnt fit the profile for Rovers! Seriously though it very well could be that he is eyeing up the gap left by Byrne and maybe even put himself back in with shout of a call up, however slim that chance might be. The way things are at Dundalk with contracts its very hard to know if it was a competitive offer. Current phases in relative squads aside, CL football etc, if similar or even more was being offered, who would want a spin every day when there is a club over the road - it would have to be a substantially better offer to turn the head. Seems we have run out of kitchen sinks!
placid casual
25/02/2021, 7:03 PM
Could be a great signing for Rovers if it comes to pass. Could it be he saw Rovers and dundalk on different arcs of their future, with one on an upward curve and the other in a downward direction?
He also could have seen Gannon & Hoare coming here and thought tallaght was the preferred choice.
Can't think it was about money as Dundalk are flush from their euro exploits so could outbid Rovers easily you'd imagine.
The only downside would/could be him not arriving till the summer so effectively guys playing the first few months knowing their place is under threat if/when he arrives.
I haven't followed his career when he left LOI, but he was the star man in the league when he played here.
Let's see what happens I guess.
Yossarian
25/02/2021, 7:39 PM
Hard to know what to make of Towell joining Rovers. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t care that he hasn’t come back to us. I don’t think he’ll be the same player he was with us 6 years ago but he has definite quality. He’s done ok in England but has had a couple of serious injuries this season. If he’s on his game he’ll definitely help fill a gap in Rovers midfield.
ontheotherhand
25/02/2021, 7:45 PM
But he isnt a former Irish international so doesnt fit the profile for Rovers! Seriously though it very well could be that he is eyeing up the gap left by Byrne and maybe even put himself back in with shout of a call up, however slim that chance might be. The way things are at Dundalk with contracts its very hard to know if it was a competitive offer. Current phases in relative squads aside, CL football etc, if similar or even more was being offered, who would want a spin every day when there is a club over the road - it would have to be a substantially better offer to turn the head. Seems we have run out of kitchen sinks!
We deal in current and future internationals more regularly these days ;)
Nesta99
25/02/2021, 8:46 PM
We deal in current and future internationals more regularly these days ;)
Touché! lol. I agree with PC above, looking at the 2 sides Rovers look to be on an upward trend and Dundalk the opposite. It's great to be able to say that a season on from being champions (and good seasons back to 2013), being current cup holders, and just off a European group stage campaign. We are an unknown this new season in many ways, a manager that needs to prove himself domestically at least (did I mention winning the cup) and a number of signings we know damn all about - they could tear up the league and kickstart getting off the LoI transfer roundabout. Im not going to even think of the alternative as at least there are plenty of proven top LoI players still at the club. The squad is looking quite balanced imo, more than in some previous seasons where we seemed to have a bunch of lads that were too similar. The loss of Finn and McGrath after has needed sorting but some luck with injuries, players showing consistent form, with changes in formations I think it can be covered.
If Byrne and McEneff hadnt left Tallaght I dont think anyone would bet against Rovers. If Gannon had been kept at Oriel Dundalk fans would be less nervous that new signings are bargain basement replacements. As has often been said, the keeper situation is key but if Cherrie is to step in as No1, if we are generally sound defensively he is good enough. There are a lot more unknowns this season than there has been for a while. Bohs and Sligo will be in the mix too, I think Sligo could be the surprise challengers this season. Pats will be a tighter side too I think. We have the Louth Derby also this season which can be battle not to drop points. It's certainly going to be a curious first round of the league. When restrictions on fans are lifted we could see some bumper crowds too if there isnt a runaway leader by then.
As has often been said, the keeper situation is key but if Cherrie is to step in as No1, if we are generally sound defensively he is good enough.
What makes you think he is good enough ? I know he has played at Dundalk previously but I am surprised to hear Dundalk fans being positive, as in my opinion you have signed the worst keeper in the division last year.
I wish him all the best but he was the player a lot of our fans felt had to be first out the door.
When you consider how bad we were last year that speaks volumes.
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