Jack Grealish

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Keep reaching.

[paul_oshea]

To put the withdrawal in context, on the same day as he withdraws we hear about Gareth Southgate flirting publicly with Jack about an U21 call up to England.

[the doc]

Keep reaching.

I hear you fella! 👍

[paul_oshea]

There's yer quote gets

He made it clear that the player and his father and agent, Kevin, should know where they stand after their meeting before last month's gathering - when the Grealish team turned down the chance to train with the seniors ahead of the trip to Georgia - See more at: http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/euro-diary-oneill-i-wont-put-pressure-on-grealish-30647291.html#sthash.ine9smmj.dpuf


line up line up....

[DannyInvincible]

'Quinn dismisses row and wants Grealish to choose Ireland': http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/quinn-dismisses-row-and-wants-grealish-to-choose-ireland-290762.html


Stephen Quinn insists there will be no issue between him and Jack Grealish, who he labelled a "fake Paddy" earlier this season, should the Aston Villa midfielder declare to play for the Republic of Ireland senior team.

Grealish, who is English-born but has played for Ireland underage thanks to Irish grandparents, had to contend with some verbal and physical attention from Quinn in late August when Hull City met Villa in the Premier League.

The Villa youngster played down the confrontation soon after and Quinn was equally dismissive of the incident when asked about it after Ireland’s training session at their Malahide base yesterday morning.

“There was a bit of banter,” said the 28-year old Dubliner. “[Aston Villa’s] Fabien Delph was involved as well. He started it as if it was banter. The story unfortunately grew arms and legs and ran away with itself.

“I think it was on the front page of the newspapers at one point. There are a lot worse things happening in the world than me having a bit of banter with a fellow Irish, or potentially Irish, player so...”

Quinn further diluted the incident by pointing out that his own son is “half-English anyway” and expressed the hope that Grealish would ignore the overt advances being made toward him by England, and choose to play senior football for Ireland.

[tetsujin1979]

slipped under the radar, Grealish posted this on instagram last week: https://instagram.com/p/t-qi81QcLr/
Learnt this recently, even through the bad times, faith and happiness is the most important thing! "Stay positive when life gives you every reason to be negative!" The exact reason that got me where I am today! Will hopefully be announcing some v important news next week �� faith and happiness ����
Probably his new contract

Also, in this interview with Roy Keane from the Independent yesterday, Keane still considers him Irish: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/roy-keane-vows-to-quit-villa-if-it-affects-ireland-job-30656786.html

I'm on the training pitch at Villa with Irish lads like Clarky or Grealish

[tetsujin1979]

Grealish declares admiration for Wales: https://twitter.com/JackGrealish1/statuses/521761288410890241

Hats off to Wales.. Been brilliant tonight and really grinded this result out but as for Bale... Woowww what a player
reading between the lines, I expect him to declare for Coleman's side before the week is out

[tricky_colour]

Grealish declares admiration for Wales: https://twitter.com/JackGrealish1/statuses/521761288410890241

reading between the lines, I expect him to declare for Coleman's side before the week is out

I was gonna say it was only Cyprus, but then I remembered.....

[DeLorean]

From the BBC gossip section:

"Winger Jack Grealish, 19, is poised to sign a new £20,000-a-week contract at Aston Villa after joining Stellar Group, the football agency which represents Gareth Bale and Ashley Cole. (Daily Telegraph) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11159973/Jack-Grealish-poised-to-kill-off-Chelsea-and-Manchester-City-interest-by-signing-new-Aston-Villa-contract.html)"

[BonnieShels]

Has he removed the references to Ireland on his Twitter page?

[tetsujin1979]

confirmed, signed a four year deal: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4217421,00.html

[DannyInvincible]

Has he removed the references to Ireland on his Twitter page?

I don't see any major changes, if any. His profile and background photos have been him in Villa gear for a while. His bio has also read "Always have faith ! My family mean everything to me ❤️" for at least a few months now. Where were the previous references to Ireland? I'm sure tweets referring to Ireland are still there.

[BonnieShels]

I haven't looked at the page in a while, but he used to have U21 Ireland player on it. Maybe it's on the mobile site. Hold on...

EDIT: Where it says that "Always have faith ! My family mean everything to me ❤️", used to refer to Ireland. admittedly I haven't looked in a while.

[tetsujin1979]

he had a photo of himself in an Ireland game as his profile photo, or header, I can't remember.
Either way, so what if he changed it? People change their photos all the time.

[SwanVsDalton]

Seemed to enjoy (https://twitter.com/JackGrealish1/status/522124287101394944) tonight's result.

[BonnieShels]

he had a photo of himself in an Ireland game as his profile photo, or header, I can't remember.
Either way, so what if he changed it? People change their photos all the time.

Ah, I'm not doing a TOWK. Just noticed the difference.

[tetsujin1979]

Ah, I'm not doing a TOWK. Just noticed the difference.
oh, I wasn't accusing you of anything

[tetsujin1979]

I was going to post this earlier, but it seems a little redundant now

Would any of the posters who are convinced that Grealish will now declare for England risk a year's name change on it?

[BonnieShels]

I vote TOWK changing his name to Robbie Keane and the doc changing his name...

[tetsujin1979]

I vote TOWK changing his name to Robbie Keane and the doc changing his name...
I was thinking more along the lines of "I was wrong about Grealish", but that's not bad.

[Charlie Darwin]

Seemed to enjoy (https://twitter.com/JackGrealish1/status/522124287101394944) tonight's result.
Turncoat!!! :mad:

[Fergie's Son]

Seems a handy player but really, if he's not truly committed to us then why would we want him?

[Paddy Garcia]

I feel a bit different, & more positive, when we are seeking to turn a second generation lad who has played underage with England.

Trying to persuade one of our own current underage internationals to play for us - well that frankly sticks in the throat.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

You can change my name to anything you want if this lad turns out to be a top class player and declares for Ireland over England.

[paul_oshea]

I was going to post this earlier, but it seems a little redundant now

Would any of the posters who are convinced that Grealish will now declare for England risk a year's name change on it?

Now that he posted about our result and hte fact we are good enough to draw with germany and england only good enough to put 1 past Estonia, he will definitely stay with us...:P

[BonnieShels]

You can change my name to anything you want if this lad turns out to be a top class player and declares for Ireland over England.

You can't change the goalposts. He merely needs to declare.

[Charlie Darwin]

You can't change the goalposts. He merely needs to declare.
TheOneWhoMovesTheGoalposts

[Stuttgart88]

Define "top class" :)

[BonnieShels]

Basically, he has to be a great player, not a good player.

What happens when the Dunphy test and the Stutts gut test collide?

[geysir]

Dare I to read into TOWK'S claim that Grealish not only declare but be a great player as well, is that if he was deemed not good enough for England, then it could be interpreted that ireland seniors would be his 2nd choice, whereas if he was deemed good enough for England but still chose ireland, then his choice would leave no doubt about his green credentials.

[Kingdom]

Basically, he has to be a great player, not a good player.

What happens when the Dunphy test and the Stutts gut test collide?

You ask Richard Sadlier, obviously :rolleyes:

[Stuttgart88]

Dare I to read into TOWK'S claim that Grealish not only declare but be a great player as well, is that if he was deemed not good enough for England, then it could be interpreted that ireland seniors would be his 2nd choice, whereas if he was deemed good enough for England but still chose ireland, then his choice would leave no doubt about his green credentials.
But who does the deeming?

[geysir]

is it not enough that i offer a possible explanation for TOWK's statement, but now you want me to answer a meaning of life questions?
as in, who are "they"?

[tetsujin1979]

TheOneWhoMovesTheGoalposts
unfortunately you can only use 15 characters in your username, so TheOneWhoMovesTheGoalposts is a few characters too long, but I like the way you're thinking

You can change my name to anything you want if this lad turns out to be a top class player and declares for Ireland over England.There's too many subjective things in that - define "top class", is it a Premier League player? Someone who earns more than ten caps? Plays in European competition? How do we know he's declared for Ireland over England? Is there any evidence they've offered him a call up in the last 12 months?
I've been thinking this over, how about if Grealish does play for Ireland, your signature is fixed to "I was wrong about Jack Grealish playing for Ireland, so you shouldn't take this post too seriously" for a year? Any other takers on this?



Now that he posted about our result and hte fact we are good enough to draw with germany and england only good enough to put 1 past Estonia, he will definitely stay with us...:P
Come on now Paul, a real fan stands by his words. Like every GAA player ever, or all the posters on ybig.ie, or anyone who's ever gone to an Ireland game with you

[Stuttgart88]

No, there is to be no wriggle room. If JG announces his final decision to play for Ireland aged 31 having only ever played regularly as high as Northampton Town, I'll maybe give TOWK the benefit of the doubt :)

[BonnieShels]

No, there is to be no wriggle room. If JG announces his final decision to play for Ireland aged 31 having only ever played regularly as high as Northampton Town, I'll maybe give TOWK the benefit of the doubt :)
Until then I'm voting for the SIG change.

:)

Incidentally, what if by the time JG is 31, Northampton are a EPL side...

Never mind....

[geysir]

Thats all very Noble of you guys to give Jack all that wiggle woom.

[Stuttgart88]

unfortunately you can only use 15 characters in your username, so TheOneWhoMovesTheGoalposts is a few characters too long, but I like the way you're thinking
There's too many subjective things in that - define "top class", is it a Premier League player? Someone who earns more than ten caps? Plays in European competition? How do we know he's declared for Ireland over England? Is there any evidence they've offered him a call up in the last 12 months?
I've been thinking this over, how about if Grealish does play for Ireland, your signature is fixed to "I was wrong about Jack Grealish playing for Ireland, so you shouldn't take this post too seriously" for a year? Any other takers on this?



Come on now Paul, a real fan stands by his words. Like every GAA player ever, or all the posters on ybig.ie, or anyone who's ever gone to an Ireland game with youSpeaking of which I tried to hook up with Paul on Tuesday but I kept getting **** and bull excuses. Was he even there? :)

[geysir]

Paul probably (true to his word) spends his time hanging out with a better class of fan.

[Philly]

"Martin O’Neill gets his man as Jack Grealish commits future to Ireland"
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/martin-o-neill-gets-his-man-as-jack-grealish-commits-future-to-ireland-1.1966879

Due for a call up in the next squad, debut against USA. Relax now, folks :)

Good week for us!

[DannyInvincible]

What is this based on? Any quotes? All I see is speculation and conjecture with absolutely no new information.


A strong afterglow from the Republic of Ireland’s strong start to the Euro 2016 qualifying campaign is poised to burn brighter by the probable enlisting of Jack Grealish’s services to the senior squad.

The Aston Villa youngster is unlikely to feature in Ireland’s next qualifier on November 14th in Glasgow, with Martin O’Neill expected to keep faith with those players who secured a memorable 1-1 draw away to the world champions Germany, but a full debut four days later against Jürgen Klinsmann’s USA is on the cards.

...

As the game against the United States is a friendly, England are not completely out of the equation until the point comes that he makes a competitive appearance in a qualifier.

It’s understood that such a late reversal by Grealish is inconceivable. Ireland’s next competitive fixture after the Celtic Park showdown against Scotland doesn’t come until next March when Poland visit Dublin.

The four-month gap will afford Grealish the platform to convince O’Neill of his readiness for inclusion in a squad already top-heavy with wideman.

[Charlie Darwin]

What is this based on? Any quotes? All I see is speculation and conjecture with absolutely no new information.
Not sure. None of the other papers are running with it as far as I know (although a lot of journos have been quite tonight so maybe they've been frantically trying to beat the first deadline).

[Charlie Darwin]

My suspicions were correct:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0Gr0wyIcAAsHda.jpg

[The Fly]

'Twas Michael O'Leary wot done it.

[Charlie Darwin]

'Twas Michael O'Leary wot done it.
God bless that beautiful man.

[The Fly]

God bless that beautiful man.

Either that or he read TOWK's post earlier.

[The Fly]

If this is true then it's a pity the Gibraltar game wasn't coming up instead. That would've represented the perfect opportunity to cap young Jack.

[Charlie Darwin]

O'Neill used the Gibraltar game to get the players prepared for the Germany game so I think he was always going to go with the established players. He could have given Brian Lenihan a run-out at 5-0 to prepare for an emergency in the Germany game, but he decided to give Meyler the time there, so I think it would have been unlikely Grealish would have played as he wouldn't have been an option for Germany. O'Neill has played this one very well I think - he's backed off and given the boy room to sort out his future and his faith has been repaid. To be fair, Trap took a similar approach with James McCarthy and he, too, proved he never had any intention of turning his back on Ireland.

[gastric]

Indo now reporting this too, but it does look like a rehash of The Times article. If we beat Scotland, we will probably see Noble, Kane and Crowley want to come on board. Success breeds success and with a good feel about Irish football, others will probably come out of the woodwork like Christie. TOWK will be happy, like I am!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/jack-grealish-ready-to-accept-senior-call-from-oneill-30670984.html

[Charlie Darwin]

Indo now reporting this too, but it does look like a rehash of The Times article. If we beat Scotland, we will probably see Noble, Kane and Crowley want to come on board. Success breeds success and with a good feel about Irish football, others will probably come out of the woodwork like Christie. TOWK will be happy, like I am!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/jack-grealish-ready-to-accept-senior-call-from-oneill-30670984.html
It is a rehash - it's written by the same man. Fallon wrote the Examiner and Sun articles too, and presumably will have one on RTE tomorrow too. Freelancing.