Israel (Away) Sat 26th Mar 05

[Eldad]

Eldad, I may have missed this earlier on, but can you confirm the Kick-Off time. The FAI are quoting 1700 local time. Is this correct? I thought I saw somewhere previously that the kick-off would not be until at least 1900 local time?

For sure the kick-off time won't be at 5:00pm!
Shabbat ends after 5pm & the national team can't play before 1 hours after Shabbat ends.
I can't confirm the kick-off time, but I can guess it will be at 7:00pm, because 9:00pm is the news time of Israel's TV channel 1...

[Superhoops]

For sure the kick-off time won't be at 5:00pm!
Shabbat ends after 5pm & the national team can't play before 1 hours after Shabbat ends.
I can't confirm the kick-off time, but I can guess it will be at 7:00pm, because 9:00pm is the news time of Israel's TV channel 1...
Eldad, thanks, I have much more faith in you than in the FAI. If we depended on them, we would be lucky to get the date right, never mind the time.

[jbyrne]

For sure the kick-off time won't be at 5:00pm!
Shabbat ends after 5pm & the national team can't play before 1 hours after Shabbat ends.
I can't confirm the kick-off time, but I can guess it will be at 7:00pm, because 9:00pm is the news time of Israel's TV channel 1...
this may have been dealt with previously and excuse my ignorance if its a stupid question but will Tel Aviv shut down on the saturday of the match until 5pm??

[GK for the Town]

Eldad, thanks, I have much more faith in you than in the FAI. If we depended on them, we would be lucky to get the date right, never mind the time.


Superhoops, in relation to this post i felt it necessary to back your point up about the FAI getting a date wrong and to trust Eldad

"REPUBLIC OF IRELAND V FRANCE (WORLD CUP QUALIFYING FIXTURE)

Saturday, September 7 2005. Kick Off TBC

This fixture is sold out. "

This is pasted in from the FAI site. If you notice they have the day wrong. The 7th of September according to my calender is a Wednesday. France are against the Faroes i think on Sat 3rd Sep.
They could of hardly backed your point up anymore.

[Eldad]

this may have been dealt with previously and excuse my ignorance if its a stupid question but will Tel Aviv shut down on the saturday of the match until 5pm??

Tel-Aviv is partly shut down at Shabbat (from Friday at 16:00 to Saturday at 18:00). No public transportation (apart of taxis) & most of stores are closed; Entertainment (cinema, restrants, pub, ect.) are opened.
If you plan to walk around Tel-Aviv on Saturday you will not feel any problem.

[Eldad]

Superhoops, in relation to this post i felt it necessary to back your point up about the FAI getting a date wrong and to trust Eldad

"REPUBLIC OF IRELAND V FRANCE (WORLD CUP QUALIFYING FIXTURE)

Saturday, September 7 2005. Kick Off TBC

This fixture is sold out. "

This is pasted in from the FAI site. If you notice they have the day wrong. The 7th of September according to my calender is a Wednesday. France are against the Faroes i think on Sat 3rd Sep.
They could of hardly backed your point up anymore.

You are talking about the match in Dublin...

[jbyrne]

Tel-Aviv is partly shut down at Shabbat (from Friday at 16:00 to Saturday at 18:00). No public transportation (apart of taxis) & most of stores are closed; Entertainment (cinema, restrants, pub, ect.) are opened.
If you plan to walk around Tel-Aviv on Saturday you will not feel any problem.

thanks for that information

[Peadar]

"REPUBLIC OF IRELAND V FRANCE (WORLD CUP QUALIFYING FIXTURE)

Saturday, September 7 2005. Kick Off TBC

This fixture is sold out. "

I believe this information to be almost entirely correct.

[suirsider]

i bought tickets for 471 euros return via prague. we are going from the 22nd march until 31st march. my brother booked a week later and the fare was 486 euro. a bit dearer but still good

[Peadar]

Forgot to mention my flight details.

Your Itinerary Details:

Flight Segment: Heathrow (London) Terminal 4 To Tel Aviv (Ben Gurion) Terminal 3
Flight: BA0165
Cabin: Euro Traveller
Booking Status: Confirmed
Departure: 25 Mar 2005 08:45
Arrival: 25 Mar 2005 15:35
Flight Operated By: British Airways

Flight Segment: Tel Aviv (Ben Gurion) Terminal 3 To Heathrow (London) Terminal 4
Flight: BA0164
Cabin: Euro Traveller
Booking Status: Confirmed
Departure: 27 Mar 2005 15:55
Arrival: 27 Mar 2005 20:30
Flight Operated By: British Airways

[stickyjoe]

ive been searching the web for the cheapest fare to tel aviv for the israel game. what is the cheapest fare anyones got?

peader your flight times seem ok. how much were your flights if you don`t mind me asking ;)

[Peadar]

peader your flight times seem ok. how much were your flights if you don`t mind me asking ;)

GBP£312
You may think that's expensive but it's non-stop from Heathrow and means taking just one day off work.

[soylent green]

The game is Weds.7/9......I guess with a 19.30KO...... :rolleyes: Barring acts of a higher power/nature........

I see some Northern Ireland fans have been stung with the English FA moving the kick off time for their match in England to late evening from 15:00. Many have flights booked out to the Poland away match on the following Wednesday and now can't get back to Belfast or London for their flights.

[Cowboy]

Just spoke to Nicola at e travel , stand up charter caneclled I'm afraid but they are still doing trip for same price using the metropolitan hotel which looks decent on internet . E travel no. is 408 1900

[Beavis]

Yep,StandUp... fell through but we didn't suffer,we've been rebooked no problem.Thepeoplesflag.com have said they have learned from mistakes and despite losing a few hundred,they will be persuing a similar venture for the Faroes game.

[Cowboy]

its great that they were upfront about it, some travel ops waited till a few days before the trip to say they were not going

[IsMiseSean]

I booked a couple of days ago, does this mean I have to start looking for different ways to get there? :(

[Peadar]

does this mean I have to start looking for different ways to get there? :(


Contact Nicola at E travel on +353 (01) 408 1900

[Beavis]

I booked a couple of days ago, does this mean I have to start looking for different ways to get there? :(
No don't worry your booked with e travel.The only difference is the hotel and flight times.

Btw how many of you are travelling?

[IsMiseSean]

There's 3 of us. What time will the flights be now?

[SuperDub]

There are 4 of us plus 3 other lads i know who are booked with e travel

[HarpoJoyce]

I would consider myself pro-Palestinian and interested in Palestine. I'm travelling to Israel and Palestine in March both for the match and learn more about the situation and strenghten my own agruements about why Israel needs to leave Palestine. Just some reminders

www.alternativenews.org/

www.un.org/unrwa/emergency/barrier/index.html

www.newsfromwithin.org/

I spent over three weeks in both countries over Christmas and New Year (Great trip thanks for asking). There is no question that Palestinians suffer daily harassement and humiliation from the soliders and police at hundreds of checkpoints and barriers in the West Bank and Gaza.

When I go back I want to challenge in a respectful dignified manner both soliders and police in Israel and Palestine about their behaviour. Foreign football supporters who spend a short time in a place can demand a little bit more from the authorities than a Palestinian who if arrested at a demonstration will get a 6 (six) month prison sentence guaranteed plus a real threat of never working in Israel again.

Israel isn't my first choice holiday destination but whilst I'm there I intend to question abuses.

When I was there before I met up with numerous foreign Volunteers with the International Solidarity Movement who sees themselves as committing to the Palestinian cause. But they know they have to enter Israel to do that.

www.palsolidarity.org/

Anyone who wants to learn more

On Monday 31st January, 19:30, Room 3074 Arts Block, Trinity College. Dr. Jamal Zahalka (MK, Member of Knesset) will give a talk on the fate of Arabs in Israel.

www.ipsc.ie/



Thanks for listening

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

I would consider myself pro-Palestinian and interested in Palestine. I'm travelling to Israel and Palestine in March both for the match and learn more about the situation and strenghten my own agruements about why Israel needs to leave Palestine. Just some reminders

www.alternativenews.org/

www.un.org/unrwa/emergency/barrier/index.html

www.newsfromwithin.org/

I spent over three weeks in both countries over Christmas and New Year (Great trip thanks for asking). There is no question that Palestinians suffer daily harassement and humiliation from the soliders and police at hundreds of checkpoints and barriers in the West Bank and Gaza.

When I go back I want to challenge in a respectful dignified manner both soliders and police in Israel and Palestine about their behaviour. Foreign football supporters who spend a short time in a place can demand a little bit more from the authorities than a Palestinian who if arrested at a demonstration will get a 6 (six) month prison sentence guaranteed plus a real threat of never working in Israel again.

Israel isn't my first choice holiday destination but whilst I'm there I intend to question abuses.

When I was there before I met up with numerous foreign Volunteers with the International Solidarity Movement who sees themselves as committing to the Palestinian cause. But they know they have to enter Israel to do that.

www.palsolidarity.org/

Anyone who wants to learn more

On Monday 31st January, 19:30, Room 3074 Arts Block, Trinity College. Dr. Jamal Zahalka (MK, Member of Knesset) will give a talk on the fate of Arabs in Israel.

www.ipsc.ie/



Thanks for listening

While I echo your sentiments, I feel you are being a brave man if you intend approaching any Israeli person over the situation there. Most Irish people wouldnt enjoy an Israeli coming to Ireland and questioning what has gone on in this country.

[HarpoJoyce]

"While I echo your sentiments, I feel you are being a brave man if you intend approaching any Israeli person over the situation there. Most Irish people wouldnt enjoy an Israeli coming to Ireland and questioning what has gone on in this country."

In reply JamPM I'm asking Officers of the state to justify their actions. I'm not about to embarass ordiniary citizens ( although bear in mind that most Israeli citizens between 18 and 54 serve for 3 weeks every year in the armed services.)

Because my team is playing in Israeli, I hope to follow them out there. While I'm there I don't expect to sit idlily by. I want to ask

1.) Why do children have to be harmed for Israel to prosper?
www.electronicintifada.net/v2/article3180.shtml

2.) If Israel wants to be part of the International Community ( as seen by current Holocaust Commemorations) why doesn't She uphold International Law inc. 4th Geneva Convention " Protection of Civilians in Time of War"?
ap.ohchr.org/documents/E/CHR/resolutions/E-CN_4-RES-2004-10.doc

3.) Why does other people have to suffer for Israel to feel safe?
http://electronicintifada.net/bytopic/apartheidwall.shtml
www.stopthewall.org/

Whether I'm in Israel or Palestine I'll meet Israeli police and soliders, Irish supporters have a unique oppurtunity to press the questions the whole world have been asking but get no response. Fans can also learn for themselves the thinking behind the Israeli actions.

But at the same time fans can learn from Palestinians first hand what they have to put up with every single day. Where journeys are broken up are have to be abandoned by the countless checkpoints and barriers. And they can see for themselves the grotesque physical obstructions put in place by Israel.
http://stopthewall.org/communityvoices/771.shtml

[the_bonk]

ok....im sorry for the speling mistakes because im so angry.

What are you smoking man?!?!?!!?!?

Lets start will some fact's about the situation :
1. All the Israeli army want's is to keep the israeli people safe.
If the palestiniens will try to start bombing ----> they will go into the cities and will kill the terror people.

Lets see here: between the first "intifada" ( around 1989 ) and the second "intifada" , the Palestinies didn't want to have war with us and they didn't try to kill israeli people ( only in 1996 they tried sevral times ).
When they didn't try the Israeli army didn't go to their cities and didn't kill noone . But in 2001 , they started and wanted to kill Israeli citizens.
When they didn't try to kill us , the army didnt do anything to them because thethe Israeli army dosn't want to kill !!! !

Now, Abu-Mazan is trying to take control after Arafat died....And Israel is giving him all the support....and look at the result's : one of the quietest weeks in the last 4 years in the fighting area ( around gaza ).

conclusion : the history showed us that when the palestines didn't try to kill Israeli citizens....the army didn't kill anyone .

The palestines were offerd several times a country but they didn't want the offer. Now you will say :" Israel offerd them peanuts" . LOL that BULLSH*T because now they wish they will have that.

If you would like to continue this conversation please tell me what instant message software you are talking with, because this thread is not about the Israeli-Palestien conflict.

[HarpoJoyce]

ok....im sorry for the speling mistakes because im so angry.

What are you smoking man?!?!?!!?!?

Lets start will some fact's about the situation :
1. All the Israeli army want's is to keep the israeli people safe.
If the palestiniens will try to start bombing ----> they will go into the cities and will kill the terror people.

Lets see here: between the first "intifada" ( around 1989 ) and the second "intifada" , the Palestinies didn't want to have war with us and they didn't try to kill israeli people ( only in 1996 they tried sevral times ).
When they didn't try the Israeli army didn't go to their cities and didn't kill noone . But in 2001 , they started and wanted to kill Israeli citizens.
When they didn't try to kill us , the army didnt do anything to them because thethe Israeli army dosn't want to kill !!! !

Now, Abu-Mazan is trying to take control after Arafat died....And Israel is giving him all the support....and look at the result's : one of the quietest weeks in the last 4 years in the fighting area ( around gaza ).

conclusion : the history showed us that when the palestines didn't try to kill Israeli citizens....the army didn't kill anyone .

The palestines were offerd several times a country but they didn't want the offer. Now you will say :" Israel offerd them peanuts" . LOL that BULLSH*T because now they wish they will have that.

If you would like to continue this conversation please tell me what instant message software you are talking with, because this thread is not about the Israeli-Palestien conflict.

I'll be brief, but first I'm annoyed about quotes in the reply above which may suggest they're attributed to me they're not. And its a concern of mine.
The reply quoted is a bit fractured but I'll reply anyway. This thread is about the destination and all that involves.

I want to keep this discussion tied to what oppurtunities are available to Irish fans next March. In between, drinking beer, falling and the games there's a chance to learn.

Irish representatives inc. fans can stand up and question the motives of security forces. Simple restrained quotes and questions can travel round the world. But, always in a respectful and dignified manner because its on behalf of others and ourselves.
And not have a situation when Switzerland played in Ramat Gan ( 09 October 2004) while the largest attack on civilian targets in four years was taken place in Gaza during Operation " Days of Penitence/Repentence".

http://www.btselem.org/ - An Israeli Human Rights group.

The match normalised and legitimised Israel in the International community.
The Swiss only brought approx. 50 fans so perhaps they were in a position to question. I don't want that to happen to Ireland.

Just as there are Israelis concerned with the fate of Palestinians so in Ireland people are interested too.

Monday 31st, January, Trinity Arts Block, Room 3074. 19:30.
Dr. Jamal Zahalka ( MK, Member of Knesset) will talk of the situation for Israeli Arabs.

http://www.ipsc.ie/

[Green Tribe]

Yes, please note this is a FOOTBALL forum for irish football fans!! this thread is for fans travelling to israel, i do not think it will be appreciated that it is abused in the way it is , encouraging people to stage some protest or attempt to annoy the security forces in israel, ireland is well-known for peaceful and fun-loving fans. yes it is a good opportunity for fans to see for themselves( don't think tel-aviv will give much insight into the palestinian's plight though :rolleyes: what israel is like. i do not think a football game especially in a optimistic atmosphere in israel is the time or the place to interfere, no matter what our opinion is, it might not take much to stir up trouble among opposition fans( who come to ireland soon after that game). why risk giving our nation such a bad reputation? find other ways to broadcast your views, maybe dahamsta should watch out for people hijacking the forums for irrelevant purposes such as politics(irish and israeli!) etc. yes, the bonk is right, it is not the place, thank u for your consideration, i hope u can both debate on messenger or something. please think twice, do not use israel as a platform for protest. what if we were docked points for trouble or something?

[Eldad]

I think that is a great opportunity for you to learn about the Israeli-Palestinian problem.
But when you learn it, try to understand the Israeli side also... It is very easy to think about the Palestinian pain only.

If you stay in Israel for more then a few days, try to visit in a Kibbutz - it is a very unique experiance.

[Green Tribe]

well done tuff paddy, glad you agree, i hate all that sh1te :D :D :D

[Cowboy]

Lads we've enough issues of our own to worry about in Ireland. Anyway, this is a football forum.
Go log on to Amnesty or Liberty or Tree-huugers.com if you want anything else. :D

I agree but could we not have more consistency on this policy, lots of threads venture into areas little to do with football

[tall chapy]

Eldad/The Bonk

What is the cheapest,easiest and safest way to get to the stadium from Hayarkon St.

Will the 222 bus will bring you from the airport straight to Hayarkon St.How much does it cost.
If I get the train,how much will it cost and how far will it leave me from Hayarkon.

Hotels
Can you give your opinions of these hotels
Seanet
Maxim
Basel
Tal

Thanks
Tall Chapy

[the_bonk]

Eldad/The Bonk

What is the cheapest,easiest and safest way to get to the stadium from Hayarkon St.

Will the 222 bus will bring you from the airport straight to Hayarkon St.How much does it cost.
If I get the train,how much will it cost and how far will it leave me from Hayarkon.

Hotels
Can you give your opinions of these hotels
Seanet
Maxim
Basel
Tal

Thanks
Tall Chapy

You should get bus number 222, most of the station's are in Hayarkon street. Dont take me by the word but the bus should not cost you more then 30 NIS imo ( i dont know , but i dont believe it costs more then this price).
The train will be much cheaper , only 10 NIS but it dosn't go to hayarkon street. so the bus should be more convenient ( although it will cost you more ).

If you travel with some friends or you meet some here in israel , a taxi is defently what you need. Actully , you don't have any other option in public transportation because buses don't work on saterdays here. I'f your travelling alone and you don't want to go alone in a taxi for whatever reason i can only tell you to group with other people and go with them. But the game is still one month and a half from now so im positive that someone from Israel will send you privite buses because everyone knows that that will be a problem.
On the way back you could use the bus to your hotel ( because Shabat will be "out" already , and buses work at that time ).

From the list of the hotels you gace the best ones IMO are : Basel and Tal

[tall chapy]

Thanks for getting back Bonk,
Getting the train from the Airport. Could I get off at the north railway station between the Haifa road and Ayalon. Then walk down Ariosoroff. or is this too long to walk ??
Unfortunately, I'll be travelling on my own and most that are travelling will have transfers to andf from the match as part of the deal.
So it looks like a Taxi, does public transport not start back up after 6pm on the Shabat. At a guess how much would a taxi cost from Hayarkon to the stadium.

Thanks
Tall Chapy

[the_bonk]

Thanks for getting back Bonk,
Getting the train from the Airport. Could I get off at the north railway station between the Haifa road and Ayalon. Then walk down Ariosoroff. or is this too long to walk ??
Unfortunately, I'll be travelling on my own and most that are travelling will have transfers to andf from the match as part of the deal.
So it looks like a Taxi, does public transport not start back up after 6pm on the Shabat. At a guess how much would a taxi cost from Hayarkon to the stadium.

Thanks
Tall Chapy

Actually, you can get off the Train in the University station, but you can't walk from there , its too long IMO ( at least 6 KM ) . What you can do is to get off in the University station and then get a bus line 47 or 247 and that will take you to Hayarkon street . But :
1. Depend's when you land...and if Buses work at that hour.
2. It will be hard for you to find the station that you need to go on the Bus. You would probably need some one to guide you because the bus station you need to go on is 5 Meters from an amusment park and the train station is like 750 Meters Away .
Taxi will be the best way for you imo.

Actually you are right, You will have public buses before and after the game.
You will need to take line 47 or 247 ( the other way around ) , and you need to get of in the amusment park. there you will see people walking to the stadium so you could follow them , but if not : Ask some one how to get to the water park ( the amusment park is not the water park ) its 1 KM away from each other. When you will get to the water park you will already see the stadium.

Sorry but in Israel our pulic transport sucks. Only now there are planing and starting to build a "metro" in jerusalem , and in Tel aviv they will start only in 5 years.

A taxi from your hotel to the stadium should cost you around 40-50 NIS i guess , and on the bus it will cost you 7 NIS .

[tall chapy]

That info is excellent and much appriciated.
One final question, hopefully....
What is the best way to get to Jerusalem. I am planning on going to there on Good Friday (March 25th).Being Easter, I guess it would be hectic. In your opinion, and Security wise, Would there be much hassle going in to west Jerusalem, I know most of the Arab shops will be closed being their Shabat.
I'd say Bus is the easiest way to get there, but I am a bit wary of travelling on the Bus.
Are the trains frequent to Jerusalem, does the train go to Jerusalem LOL
Taxi maybe too expensive

[the_bonk]

That info is excellent and much appriciated.
One final question, hopefully....
What is the best way to get to Jerusalem. I am planning on going to there on Good Friday (March 25th).Being Easter, I guess it would be hectic. In your opinion, and Security wise, Would there be much hassle going in to west Jerusalem, I know most of the Arab shops will be closed being their Shabat.
I'd say Bus is the easiest way to get there, but I am a bit wary of travelling on the Bus.
Are the trains frequent to Jerusalem, does the train go to Jerusalem LOL
Taxi maybe too expensive

Here we have a problem.
There are no train's to Jerusalem ( there was a train to Jerusalem a few years ago but it wasn't good business to the train's because no-one took a train because the line it took was too long about 1 and a half hours, now we are bulding a direct line from Tel aviv to Jerusalem in 28 minutes. but when you get here it won't be finished )
About buses, its a little funny that in Tel Aviv your 'ok' with going with a bus and to Jerusalem your not ;) . Taxi's will be expencive and i wouldn't advise you to take one.
I read that the Israeli tourist office will operate buses ( privet ones ) from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. If not that there are for sure trips for one day to Jerusalem.
If you insist on going alone and not with a group , so the only choise you have ( after you didn't want buses or taxi's ) is to go by foot :D its only 65 KM away :D .
There is another solution . there is this thing : shuttle taxi's. It is a "big" taxi ...takes 10 people , but it is similare to a bus....you go on and off and you don't tell to the driver where to drop you off because he drives in a "line". This is actually a bus , and he drives in the same way ....but its small and you shouldn't be afraid of takeing it ( although also regualar buses are safe this days ) .

[Condex]

Lads we've enough issues of our own to worry about in Ireland. Anyway, this is a football forum.
Go log on to Amnesty or Liberty or Tree-huugers.com if you want anything else. :D

Agree totally, where do these people spring from, no one side is totally right or totally wrong.

[Peadar]

The countdown is on now lads.
The excitement levels are simmering away nicely.
A solid performance against Portugal and the confidence is up.
We can get a result here.
That would set us up nicely for the summer.
Two more wins in June and then we can enjoy the Italy game in August.
BRING IT ON!

[jbyrne]

The countdown is on now lads.
The excitement levels are simmering away nicely.
A solid performance against Portugal and the confidence is up.
We can get a result here.
That would set us up nicely for the summer.
Two more wins in June and then we can enjoy the Italy game in August.
BRING IT ON!

yes, cant wait either. would love to know how many of us will be travelling?
a central meeting point, like the eiffel tower in paris, on the day of the game might be a good idea again

[Peadar]

a central meeting point, like the eiffel tower in paris, on the day of the game might be a good idea again


Perhaps our Israel correspondents can suggest a suitable location?

[Beavis]

Cannot Fookin Wait!!!

[Superhoops]

yes, cant wait either. would love to know how many of us will be travelling?...
Not as many as some might think. From Gerry McDermott in today's Indo:
Although next month's game falls on Easter Saturday it appears that it will be a Green Platoon rather than a Green Army that will be supporting Ireland at the National Stadium in Ramat Gan.

The FAI say their allocation of 3,500 tickets is moving very slowly and the association is facing the rare possibility of having to return tickets.

Where are the 30000 that went to Paris. Too much trouble? Other things to do?. No doubt the missing 28000 or so will be doing some squealing about tickets for the France game in Dublin!

[IsMiseSean]

Well I'm going to be there and I cant wait

[gspain]

:mad:
Not as many as some might think. From Gerry McDermott in today's Indo:
Although next month's game falls on Easter Saturday it appears that it will be a Green Platoon rather than a Green Army that will be supporting Ireland at the National Stadium in Ramat Gan.

The FAI say their allocation of 3,500 tickets is moving very slowly and the association is facing the rare possibility of having to return tickets.

Where are the 30000 that went to Paris. Too much trouble? Other things to do?. No doubt the missing 28000 or so will be doing some squealing about tickets for the France game in Dublin!

Sad thing is many of the platoon in Israel will be squealing about not having tickets for France in Dublin. :mad: :mad:

I will be ok but many in Tel Aviv won't be. And they have every right to squeal.

[gspain]

The U21 game will be played in Herzliya at 3pm local time on Friday March 25th.

We arrive that morning at 6am so presumably plenty of time to make it after checking into our Tel Aviv hotel.

We had been hoping for a night game to allow time to visit Jerusalem but now it's a simple choice of visiting a fabulous city full of culture and history and steeped in the tradition of 3 main faiths or going to watch our U21s. No contest - Herzliya it is. ;)

[Superhoops]

:mad:

Sad thing is many of the platoon in Israel will be squealing about not having tickets for France in Dublin. :mad: :mad:

I will be ok but many in Tel Aviv won't be. And they have every right to squeal.
Until they change the block booking to include away games or set up a seperate block booking system for away games this will always be the case.

I assume you, like myself, are a block booker and, like myself, have been for some time and also travel regualrly to away games. Therefore we are well up the pecking order for tickets.

Of the 18000 BB's, there are relatively very few who regularly travel to away games. Of the others when they do it is only to the most 'prestigious' games (e.g Basle 2003) but their BB status gives them priority over regular 'away' fans who are not BB's. Is it right they should get that priority?

Similarly, several of these regular 'away' fans have been going to away games for many years. Many previously had the chance to become BB's but declined as they are not interested in going to games in Dublin, except for the most 'prestigious' games (e.g France this October). Should they have any priority claim for the 'hot' ticket for homes games over those who regularly go to all home games, friendly or competitive?

There are also an increasing number who are now going regularly to away games and who would like to go to home games but are not BB's and are not likely to be while we are playing at 'old' Lansdowne. I dont know how you accommodate this group for games like the France home game in October, unless it is played in CP of course!

In the meantime, the FAI ought to be ensuring their ticket database is up to date and assuming the number of BB's will increase with 'new' Lansdowne, then priority for the allocation of any extra BB's will be given to those who (a) have their names on the waiting list and (b) have a record of buying tickets for away games.

I believe the number of people who regularly actually go or who would go, if they could get tickets, to home and away games, competitive and friendlies is probably no more than a few hundred and certainly less than 1000, as was evidenced at the Georgia/Albania games in the 2002 WCQ's.

[jbyrne]

although in many ways it was great to see such support in Paris last october many of the 35,000 or so who went were away match novices who will also jump on the world cup band wagon should we qualify. this will make getting tickets for the finals all the harder. its definately time for the fai to set up an away match (including wc finals) loyalty system or a travel club of some sorts. i'll probably end up being at every one of these qualifiers and if i cant get wc tickets after that i'll be livid!!

[the_bonk]

Perhaps our Israel correspondents can suggest a suitable location?

Because Most of the traveller's will sleep in Hayrkon street , i think it will be the place for you people.

[magic]

If the paper is right with this

- 'The FAI say their allocation of 3,500 tickets is moving very slowly and the association is facing the rare possibility of having to return tickets' -

is it safe to assume everyone who applied online will get tickets? Or am I giving the FAI too much credit?

And seeing as the game is on the 89th anniversary of the Easter Rising, does anyone know how many people were in the GPO?

[gspain]

I think it is safe to assume that every applicant will get every ticket they asked for.

I think the cirrent system is actually much fairer than ther IRFU or GAA ticket allocation systems however it should take account in some way of regular travelling fans. Appreciate some don't want home tickets.


If the paper is right with this

- 'The FAI say their allocation of 3,500 tickets is moving very slowly and the association is facing the rare possibility of having to return tickets' -

is it safe to assume everyone who applied online will get tickets? Or am I giving the FAI too much credit?

And seeing as the game is on the 89th anniversary of the Easter Rising, does anyone know how many people were in the GPO?