Israel (Away) Sat 26th Mar 05 [Archive] - Page 18

lopez

01/04/2005, 9:51 AM

And how do you know there aren't arguing with Israelies?Anyone who knows anything about the I-P conflict understands that this issue divides Jews. When the Londoner was shot by an Israeli soldier for being a 'human shield' for Palestinian kids a coupel of years ago it was a fellow Londoner, but also a Jewish one at that, that was the spokeman for his group.

Shae_B2D

01/04/2005, 10:25 AM

Anyone who knows anything about the I-P conflict understands that this issue divides Jews. When the Londoner was shot by an Israeli soldier for being a 'human shield' for Palestinian kids a coupel of years ago it was a fellow Londoner, but also a Jewish one at that, that was the spokeman for his group.

Well, yeah, as I said, a painful, difficult and extremely complicated subject. Myself I am quite a left winger, but I understand many of the opposite side, even if I disagree with them. This is really hard for us. However, that's a bit far off from sports. :) That was probably the nice thing about this week's games, it really brought the entire nation together for a while, all behind the same goal, supporting the team. For me, as a sports lover, it was amazing to see how everyone (and I'm saying EVERYONE - on my mother's birthday dinner we were all talking about the games, including her who knows nothing about football). The incredible rating figures proves that as well - never before a football games here received such high figures.

Peadar

01/04/2005, 10:41 AM

What is the capacity of the Irish national stadium? and how many
tickets will be sold to the Israeli fans ?

It's in the region of 35,000 for full Internationals.
You'll be offered 3,000 or so.
Any that you don't sell will come back to us.

Saint Tom

01/04/2005, 12:47 PM

do the israelis envisage that they will bring 3000 to the game here? If so fair play

OwlsFan

01/04/2005, 1:07 PM

Not sure if this has been posted already, but there are more pictures of the trip to Israel can be found here:

http://www.thepeoplesflag.com/web/pics.asp?action=showallpics&super_group_id=25&group_id=66

Shae_B2D

01/04/2005, 3:49 PM

do the israelis envisage that they will bring 3000 to the game here? If so fair play

I don't think so. on the other hand, I can't be sure - we've had this amount of fans abroad already, with Hapoel Tel Aviv and Maccabbi Haifa in soccer, and with Maccabbi Tel Aviv (basktball) in abroad final four events, and with last year's Hapoel Jerusalem's European cup final. But the teams, I guess, still have more tradition than our national team. maybe the current campaign can change that. It also depends on the prices a lot... if there are good prices...

I'm dying to come, personally, but I've got a trip which is already planned and booked for two weeks before the game, I doubt I'll have the money for another trip. :(

By the way, a friend of mine was in Ireland over the weekend - when all the Irish fans were here - and he paid 200$ for his flight. :)

Eldad

01/04/2005, 4:00 PM

Shae_B2D

01/04/2005, 4:05 PM

Israel national team never takes thousands to overseas, apart of one game which was played in Cyprus.

Hapoel TA took 10,000 fans to Uefa cup quarter-final in Milan.
A few thousands fans of Maccabi TA (in basketball) went to final-four tournment in Paris.

I guess that only a few Israeli fans will go to Lansdown Road.

Yeah, that's why I said I didn't think so. On the other hand, I'm thinking we might get a surprise - not 3000 fans, that's a bit too much - but maybe more than usually. The team has been really hyped lately, and combine that with Ireland being quite a preferred tourism spot for Israelis lately, that's not a bad combination.

Ron Amikam

01/04/2005, 5:47 PM

A few thousands fans of Maccabi TA (in basketball) went to final-four tournment in Paris.

Ha?
8,000 was in Paris.

Shae_B2D

01/04/2005, 7:13 PM

Ha?
8,000 was in Paris.

Well, isn't that the point? When did the soccer national team got the same support the a-la "team of the nation" has received?

Ron Amikam

01/04/2005, 8:36 PM

Well, isn't that the point? When did the soccer national team got the same support the a-la "team of the nation" has received?

6,000 in Cyprus, September 1999

Shae_B2D

01/04/2005, 8:39 PM

6,000 in Cyprus, September 1999

One game, six years ago. It was great to see, I don't deny that, but it doesn't happen very often, and definitely doesn't happen when the destination is a bit harder to reach. I know the prices are bad, but I'd love to see more support on a regular basis. If people are talking about the fact that the team lacks some kind of tradition, having a good and regular fanbase is a good way to start too.

lopez

01/04/2005, 10:56 PM

Yeah, that's why I said I didn't think so. On the other hand, I'm thinking we might get a surprise - not 3000 fans, that's a bit too much - but maybe more than usually. The team has been really hyped lately, and combine that with Ireland being quite a preferred tourism spot for Israelis lately, that's not a bad combination.What about Israelis living abroad? Also non-Israeli Jews? Jewish Chronicle and London Jewish News both have reports about the recent games in their papers, and JC website (also Israeli clubs etc). Seems to me that there must be some form of interest in Israeli football amongst their readership for both papers to carry reports. Also, Iran sold out their section even though I can't see that many of them flew in from Iran. They liked their drink too much. :eek:

Eldad

02/04/2005, 7:57 AM

What about Israelis living abroad? Also non-Israeli Jews? Jewish Chronicle and London Jewish News both have reports about the recent games in their papers, and JC website (also Israeli clubs etc). Seems to me that there must be some form of interest in Israeli football amongst their readership for both papers to carry reports. Also, Iran sold out their section even though I can't see that many of them flew in from Iran. They liked their drink too much. :eek:

There are many of Israeli who live in the UK, and even a few hundreds in The Republic of Ireland, but I don't see many of them pay about 100 pounds for a football match...

Saint Tom

02/04/2005, 1:26 PM

well they'll be made perfectly welcome regardless of where they are travelling from.

Cyprus is only an hour flight from Israel ffs!!! its not like the six hours between TA and Dublin! I reckon anywhere between 8000-15000 will travel for our game in Cyprus in October dependig, on results in the meant time.

israeli_guy

04/04/2005, 1:10 AM

It's in the region of 35,000 for full Internationals.
You'll be offered 3,000 or so.
Any that you don't sell will come back to us.

everything will be sail :) trust me
i think there will be requirement for more tickets from the israelis fans

israeli_guy

04/04/2005, 1:21 AM

There are many of Israeli who live in the UK, and even a few hundreds in The Republic of Ireland, but I don't see many of them pay about 100 pounds for a football match...

100 pound ? are you serious ?
if that is the price so i take my words back
no more than few hundred will come

lopez

04/04/2005, 1:26 AM

100 pound ? are you serious ?
if that is the price so i take my words back
no more than few hundred will comeTbat's for flight and a night's hotel and match ticket...I think. You'll need another �100 to buy a round of drinks though. ;)

israeli_guy

04/04/2005, 1:42 AM

Eldad

04/04/2005, 5:49 AM

i thought he ment 100 pound only for the ticket
but let me tell you this my friend
if the 100 pound price include flight and a night's hotel and match ticket
i tell you in full responsibility,and without no doubt
all the ticket for the israelis fans will be sail,and there will be a demand for more tickets
(in this price i am coming.... :)

I meant 100 pounds for flights from western Europe, accomodation for a one night in Dublin, match ticket and transfers between airport, hotel and Lansdown Road.
I think it will be even more exspensive...

Shae_B2D

04/04/2005, 8:33 AM

I meant 100 pounds for flights from western Europe, accomodation for a one night in Dublin, match ticket and transfers between airport, hotel and Lansdown Road.
I think it will be even more exspensive...

Well, considering the prices of charter flights between Israel and Dublin are usually about 500$... although I know that over the last holiday there have been packages in much lower prices. I'm guessing we won't be so lucky for the game, though. Last year's ULEB Cup final in Belgium was 700$ for two nights and a direct flight, and it was probably in the most yucky town in Europe, and surly not as expansive as Dublin.

Peadar

04/04/2005, 8:41 AM

8,000 was in Paris.

We had 40,000 in Paris. :p

Ron Amikam

04/04/2005, 11:08 AM

In 'Berci' there is 12,000.

Shae_B2D

04/04/2005, 10:24 PM

In 'Berci' there is 12,000.

And again you just prove my point :) - the teams in Israel get much more support than the national ones. We've seen incredible amounts of fans follow MTA and Hapoel Jerusalem (last year), as well as the soccer teams which played abroad, but the national team hardly gets that kind of massive support.

The Berci showdown was really impressive though, as well as having half the hall in red last year in the Uleb Cup, or seeing the HTA fans following their team, I'd just want to see the same tradition develops around the national team.

Green Tribe

10/04/2005, 2:34 PM

I'm usually more focused on the football and don't go to away games on the pull but you girls are pushing me real hard to turn on the charm in Tel Aviv.

So, spill the beans! Did the charm or the new grooming regime work ???!!! :D ;)

Peadar

11/04/2005, 8:19 AM

So, spill the beans!

If you weren't on tour you don't have clearance for such sensitive information. ;)

Cowboy

11/04/2005, 9:09 AM

If you weren't on tour you don't have clearance for such sensitive information. ;)

What goes on tour stays on tour :)

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 9:54 AM

If you weren't on tour you don't have clearance for such sensitive information. ;)

So what you're trying to say is, nothing happened!!

heh-heh :D

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 9:56 AM

What goes on tour stays on tour :)

I have my spies Cowboy! :D

Cowboy

11/04/2005, 10:21 AM

I have my spies Cowboy! :D

good, you dont need any further info then :)

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 10:26 AM

good, you dont need any further info then :)

course not! :rolleyes: :D

Eire06

11/04/2005, 10:37 AM

course not! :rolleyes: :D
Pass it on then....

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 11:22 AM

Pass it on then....

:D

nothing i'm afraid, i'm bluffing...as i am sure they noticed.. :rolleyes: unless we get the cctv from the hotel rooms! :D that would be hilarious

nothing must have happened , otherwise they would be boasting! :D

Cowboy

11/04/2005, 11:40 AM

:D

nothing must have happened , otherwise they would be boasting! :D

you are right , there were no women and nobody got so much as a snog

Peadar

11/04/2005, 11:58 AM

there were no women

We heard a whisper that there were some women in a club up the road so we legged it there as fast as our drunk legs would carry us but alas, by the time we got there, they'd moved on. :(
We saw one woman in the airport but she was behind the plexi-glass in passport control so we couldn't get near enough for a snog. :mad: :)

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 12:00 PM

you are right , there were no women and nobody got so much as a snog

snigger....... :D
stop ripping the p1sh now Cowboy! :D i heard the women were a bit er loose, so yous didn't have to try hard!! hehh heh ;)

Cowboy

11/04/2005, 12:05 PM

snigger....... :D
stop ripping the p1sh now Cowboy! :D i heard the women were a bit er loose, so yous didn't have to try hard!! hehh heh ;)

not loose just refreshingly straight up, knew what they wanted and went for it

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 12:12 PM

so will there be lots of baby cowboys in tel-aviv now? :D
like uncle albert in france on 'only fools and horses' :D

Peadar

11/04/2005, 12:15 PM

so will there be lots of baby cowboys in tel-aviv now? :D

The place is already full of Cowboys. Every taxi I got was driven by one! :eek: :D

Eire06

11/04/2005, 12:16 PM

so will there be lots of baby cowboys in tel-aviv now? :D
like uncle albert in france on 'only fools and horses' :D

He he can you imagine all this new bread of red head isreali growin up in the next few years then they can all declare for Ireland and play for us.. :D

Its like Irelands mission to make as many people eligable to play for us as possible.. Its for the good of the country

Cowboy

11/04/2005, 12:26 PM

so will there be lots of baby cowboys in tel-aviv now? :D
like uncle albert in france on 'only fools and horses' :D

actually no as I just had a snog, was too busy drinking and having a good time

Cowboy

11/04/2005, 12:27 PM

The place is already full of Cowboys. Every taxi I got was driven by one! :eek: :D

thats an insult to Cowboys

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 12:46 PM

He he can you imagine all this new bread of red head isreali growin up in the next few years then they can all declare for Ireland and play for us.. :D

Its like Irelands mission to make as many people eligable to play for us as possible.. Its for the good of the country

:D :D :D might find a few even in Iran, Georgia, Albania etc We really need to play a game in Brazil or Argentina soon...... :D

Green Tribe

11/04/2005, 12:47 PM

actually no as I just had a snog, was too busy drinking and having a good time

:D :D :D u didn't waste drinking time! ;)

Cowboy

11/04/2005, 12:58 PM

:D :D :D u didn't waste drinking time! ;)

well we'd been at it since 3 pm so was not in great shape, think the girls left to go home about 4am next morning. This 24 hr bar lark is dangerous

Shae_B2D

15/04/2005, 10:09 AM

well we'd been at it since 3 pm so was not in great shape, think the girls left to go home about 4am next morning. This 24 hr bar lark is dangerous

LOL I can imagine... that always drives me crazy while in Europe - how early things close at night. Here I hardly ever get to places BEFORE 1am. Midnight, if you wanna be early...

And as for the Irish men / Israeli women thing: I had to work after the game so I only got to the pubs around 1am, and by that point every Irish guy at the pub had at least 2 girls around him, seriousely. Colie especially had quite a few hanging around him!

It was really funny to see, although a bit bad for me - I got so late that finding a guy for myself was kinda hard ;)