Tipp South & District League 2009/10

[Pearoso27]

Dont want to name them in case they havent signed wouldnt be fair to them or club. Give it another week and i will know for sure if they have signed.
My 1 to 9
Saints
Rock
Borris
Cahir
Celtic
Peake
Old Bridge
Cashel
Town
Ha, thats the way i see it sorry if i upset anyone!


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[ronburgundy]

Have Cahir Park made any signings? very lucky to stay up last year and won't want to be relegated in their centenary year. They really need to strengthen or will go down

cahir have got new player manager down from cork. not certain but think he came from leeside who wom munster junior a few years ago and also has an oscar traynor medal with cork aul from last year so must be handy enough player anyway. cahir i think will be alright they can pull decent players from there youth and b teams if the need may be unlike some of the other premier clubs who dont have this luxury. in benny ryan in my opinion they have one of best players in tsdl and if they could get robbie costigan back coupled with a few other signings they would be as good as cashel or clonmel celtic next season[/QUOTE]

i agree that benny is a very good player and fair play to him for his loyalty to cahir, im sure one of the top teams would love to have him..........not sure if he would sneak into my top 5 players in the league list though

[Tipp Top]

i agree that benny is a very good player and fair play to him for his loyalty to cahir, im sure one of the top teams would love to have him..........not sure if he would sneak into my top 5 players in the league list though[/QUOTE]


And who would be in your top 5 players Ron??

[ronburgundy]

thats a tough one but il have a crack at it, just off the top of my head......... tony scully, paul breen, michael ryan, cossie and dwayne burns. but im open to opinion

[Tipp Top]

thats a tough one but il have a crack at it, just off the top of my head......... tony scully, paul breen, michael ryan, cossie and dwayne burns. but im open to opinion


Some controversial decisions their ron but everyone is entitled to their opinion. In no order of preference Tony Scully, Michael Coady, Barry Ryan, Colin Bargary and Paul Breen.

[ronburgundy]

[QUOTE=Tipp Top;1200860]Some controversial decisions their ron but everyone is entitled to their opinion. In no order of preference Tony Scully, Michael Coady, Barry Ryan, Colin Bargary and Paul Breen.[/QUOTE

do you really think that barry ryan is the best player peake have?? odd.

[Tipp Top]

do you really think that barry ryan is the best player peake have?? odd.[/QUOTE]

To be fair to the chap he won the player of the year award last year.To my knowledge he was the first ever player from peake to win the award so ya he is their best player . I would rate him highly over Mick Ryan who you have chosen. I would also have Fogarty, O Connor, Leahy,Aoran Ryan and Donal Duggan even though he didnt play last season all ahead of Mick Ryan. Im not trying to knock Mick at all as he is a good player that gives it his all in every game .

[ronburgundy]

do you really think that barry ryan is the best player peake have?? odd.

To be fair to the chap he won the player of the year award last year.To my knowledge he was the first ever player from peake to win the award so ya he is their best player . I would rate him highly over Mick Ryan who you have chosen. I would also have Fogarty, O Connor, Leahy,Aoran Ryan and Donal Duggan even though he didnt play last season all ahead of Mick Ryan. Im not trying to knock Mick at all as he is a good player that gives it his all in every game .[/QUOTE]


oh tipp top your 1 of those lads who judges a player by what the refs committee thinks of them at the end of the year, fair enough, you obviously werent at the play off last year, mick is a much better player. for the record i would rate at least 3 of the players you listed as better players too, actually 3 of them played 1st team loi while ryan couldnt make it at that level, but your entitled to your opinion

[Mega Tots]

My Top 5 Rory Kiely, Richy Ryan ,Colin Bargary, Barry Ryan and Michael Coady.


As for Ron having a go at Barry Ryan again.... Have you a personal grudge with him or something He scored somewhere like 30 goals from midfield last year nearly every player in the league agreed he deserved to get the award. Just because he can be a pain to listen to at times that doesnt take from him being a good player.

I Fancy Saints to win the league this year. They seem to be building well and to be fair to them they weren't to far away last year only for one or two stupid results.

[maxwellsmart]

My Top 5 Rory Kiely, Richy Ryan ,Colin Bargary, Barry Ryan and Michael Coady.


As for Ron having a go at Barry Ryan again.... Have you a personal grudge with him or something He scored somewhere like 30 goals from midfield last year nearly every player in the league agreed he deserved to get the award. Just because he can be a pain to listen to at times that doesnt take from him being a good player.

I Fancy Saints to win the league this year. They seem to be building well and to be fair to them they weren't to far away last year only for one or two stupid results.

Barry is a good player, but I have to agree with Ron - over the years the Peake players he named above have been better, and he didn't play any first team League of Ireland when he went there.

[ronburgundy]

My Top 5 Rory Kiely, Richy Ryan ,Colin Bargary, Barry Ryan and Michael Coady.


As for Ron having a go at Barry Ryan again.... Have you a personal grudge with him or something He scored somewhere like 30 goals from midfield last year nearly every player in the league agreed he deserved to get the award. Just because he can be a pain to listen to at times that doesnt take from him being a good player.

I Fancy Saints to win the league this year. They seem to be building well and to be fair to them they weren't to far away last year only for one or two stupid results.

no personal grudge at all, just not buying in to this love in and obsession that ye all have with him, anyway, ya saints will be interesting this year, i feel it could be a make or break year for them, if they have another poor season i could see chalky and breen jumpin ship. any word on their new signings????? and by the way rory kiely?? dont think so son

[balls]

five best in tsdl michael coady,tony scully, dwayne byrnes, james walsh , paul kennedy best for poaching goals maybe not effective from general play but deffo in top 5

[maxwellsmart]

five best in tsdl michael coady,tony scully, dwayne byrnes, james walsh , paul kennedy best for poaching goals maybe not effective from general play but deffo in top 5


In no particular order but I have to pick 6!!

Aaron Moroney
Ted O Connor
Tony Scully
Paul Breen
James Walsh
Padraig Fogarty

[hooper74]

ron it is a total grudge.....the refs cannot stand barry ryan as we all know....he had a freak season and that was why he got it...they couldnt but give it to him,also according to noel byrne barry started a dozen games under him so i think were back to rafa benitez famous FACTS:) my top 5 in no particular order would be paul breen, chalky, tony scully, michael coady, aoron moroney.......all 5 selected upon inernational recognition and coady as an emerging talent.....none of these personal favourites or grudges

[celticlads]

lads im not an expert on south tipp football but how is paul scully not in anybodys top 5 players from the league.

[hooper74]

an excellent point,hes played league of ireland and won an fai junior cup,paul tobin,barry ryan and him were the next 3 if i had 8,paul will be irreplaceable for town next yr,how are they shaping up?

[ronburgundy]

ron it is a total grudge.....the refs cannot stand barry ryan as we all know....he had a freak season and that was why he got it...they couldnt but give it to him,also according to noel byrne barry started a dozen games under him so i think were back to rafa benitez famous FACTS:) my top 5 in no particular order would be paul breen, chalky, tony scully, michael coady, aoron moroney.......all 5 selected upon inernational recognition and coady as an emerging talent.....none of these personal favourites or grudges

'according to noel byrne'...........enough said:eek:

ah no he did have a great season, fair play to him. on the town front i hear things arent so smooth

[maxwellsmart]

ron it is a total grudge.....the refs cannot stand barry ryan as we all know....he had a freak season and that was why he got it...they couldnt but give it to him,also according to noel byrne barry started a dozen games under him so i think were back to rafa benitez famous FACTS:) my top 5 in no particular order would be paul breen, chalky, tony scully, michael coady, aoron moroney.......all 5 selected upon inernational recognition and coady as an emerging talent.....none of these personal favourites or grudges

How many goals did he score in those twelve games?

[AlwaysAHoop]

well Lads i heard a rumour st micheals are going up to play St peters Athlone sat 8th any truth in that,.

[Den Perry]

How many goals did he score in those twelve games?

What's that got to do with it?

in fairness to Barry he did score a lot of goals last season,and the vast majority from midfield.Whatever people may think about him being a pain at times, you gotta give credit where its due and he will be a serious loss to Peake Villa this coming season.

[ronburgundy]

anybody know when the fixtures are out????????

[balls]

prem fixtures at least should be out in next few week

[ronburgundy]

another thing i must get off my chest b4 the new season is the oscars situation. i hope that its run correctly this year and people are picked on merit. eg. barry ryan got player of the year and wasnt selected, doesnt make sense. maybe its because of the influence of chalky in the selection process. it should be made a level playing field so that players will be encouraged and feel proud to represent the league, it shouldnt be town/saints old friends fc

[Freddy]

Two sides to the whole Oscar situation..firstly,Chalkies influence is detremental to it being taken seriously by a lot of players. Secondly, linking in with the first point, a lot of players dont want to be selected for the team because its more time and effort than its worth. All in all, the Oscar team isnt seen as something to aspire to for any player in the league i think.....this is as a result of the above reasons and much more!!

[hooper74]

Please, don't be an idiot. Of course the number of goals is relevant. The Barry Ryan fan club(Den Perry, Tipp Top, Mega Tots and of course Hooper74) on here have been putting up in lights the number of goals scored by him and how he is a top class player. When Ron questioned his success at LOI level, Hooper kindly responded with the stats that Ryan did indeed play LOI first team - 12 times no less. Now, I believe its reasonable to ask how many goals he scored at that level, seeing as his supporters here go on about this goalscoring prowess so much.

i dont think its a fan club by any means,its a guy being judged on a perceived opinion of his character and not based on football,he has been one of the most prolific goalscorers in tsdl over 10 years,i never said it was 12,it was a dozen or more and i know he scored v kildare and athlone but i reckon thats about it but he did operate in midfield mostly and how many tsdl players have played double figure LOI games? seems to be an agenda with maxwell and ron if you read the posts whereas town fan and few more will question his character but never his ability and then myself or tipp top or den perry who will defend a good player is immediately accused of being barry ryan or in love with him,its a football forum not a personality contest and anyone who knows the guy will tell you how popular he is in his own dressing room,apologies for the rant:)

[ronburgundy]

i dont think its a fan club by any means,its a guy being judged on a perceived opinion of his character and not based on football,he has been one of the most prolific goalscorers in tsdl over 10 years,i never said it was 12,it was a dozen or more and i know he scored v kildare and athlone but i reckon thats about it but he did operate in midfield mostly and how many tsdl players have played double figure LOI games? seems to be an agenda with maxwell and ron if you read the posts whereas town fan and few more will question his character but never his ability and then myself or tipp top or den perry who will defend a good player is immediately accused of being barry ryan or in love with him,its a football forum not a personality contest and anyone who knows the guy will tell you how popular he is in his own dressing room,apologies for the rant:)


it is a pointless excercise to have a debate with somebody who doesnt know the difference between fact and fiction, so i give up:eek:

[AB84]

an excellent point,hes played league of ireland and won an fai junior cup,paul tobin,barry ryan and him were the next 3 if i had 8,paul will be irreplaceable for town next yr,how are they shaping up?

Town havnt signed anyone as far as i know and ive heard young evan mcguire who broke into the team at the end of last season is going to Waterford Bohs..Celtic meanwhile have signed Simon Scully and Mark Power from Town two good young players ,Power was at Aston Villa for a time a couple of years ago

[maxwellsmart]

i dont think its a fan club by any means,its a guy being judged on a perceived opinion of his character and not based on football,he has been one of the most prolific goalscorers in tsdl over 10 years,i never said it was 12,it was a dozen or more and i know he scored v kildare and athlone but i reckon thats about it but he did operate in midfield mostly and how many tsdl players have played double figure LOI games? seems to be an agenda with maxwell and ron if you read the posts whereas town fan and few more will question his character but never his ability and then myself or tipp top or den perry who will defend a good player is immediately accused of being barry ryan or in love with him,its a football forum not a personality contest and anyone who knows the guy will tell you how popular he is in his own dressing room,apologies for the rant:)

Last time I checked, 12 was the same thing as a dozen...

Hooper,for a Saints fan, you know a hell of a lot about Barry's career, both LOI and TSDL!!

[maxwellsmart]

it is a pointless excercise to have a debate with somebody who doesnt know the difference between fact and fiction, so i give up:eek:

well said

[ronburgundy]

i see saints beat fairview in a friendly at the weekend, they must really fancy their chances this season against a weakened town

[bishbash]

Town havnt signed anyone as far as i know and ive heard young evan mcguire who broke into the team at the end of last season is going to Waterford Bohs..Celtic meanwhile have signed Simon Scully and Mark Power from Town two good young players ,Power was at Aston Villa for a time a couple of years ago

Simon Scully has signed afaik but mark power has not.

[Freddy]

Can we move on from the whole Barry ryan thing please? As Hooper said it is a football forum and i personally think this particular issue has been discussed enough. Good points have been made on both sides of the arguement, but at the end of the day it is getting a bit worn out now. Lets keep personal opinions on a player out of it and stick to the football issues please!
The Saints result against Fairview was pretty impressive alright but i would question whether Fairview fielded a team that will be similar to a team they will field in the latter stages of the season...just a thought!
Any updates on fixtures yet?? Whatever the opening fixtures are, you can be sure of one thing,,Saints will have an easy one or two games to open their campaign with as is the case most seasons due to the Chalkie factor. This isnt meant as an offence at all,,but it is transparent enough that they have had easier opposition in their opening games in the last few seasons as opposed to Town for example. Interesting to see the opening few fixtures this season!!

[hooper74]

excellent point freddy....lets talk football,isnt about time the oscar traynor situation was sorted out,surely if all the clubs agree no player should be involved in selection then we can all move on

[DrRobert]

Can we move on from the whole Barry ryan thing please? As Hooper said it is a football forum and i personally think this particular issue has been discussed enough. Good points have been made on both sides of the arguement, but at the end of the day it is getting a bit worn out now. Lets keep personal opinions on a player out of it and stick to the football issues please!
The Saints result against Fairview was pretty impressive alright but i would question whether Fairview fielded a team that will be similar to a team they will field in the latter stages of the season...just a thought!
Any updates on fixtures yet?? Whatever the opening fixtures are, you can be sure of one thing,,Saints will have an easy one or two games to open their campaign with as is the case most seasons due to the Chalkie factor. This isnt meant as an offence at all,,but it is transparent enough that they have had easier opposition in their opening games in the last few seasons as opposed to Town for example. Interesting to see the opening few fixtures this season!!

freddy i dont understand your point,saying that we get easy games starting off,it is a stupid and pointless argument and your only tryin to make something outa nothing.this vendetta against saints is obvious coming from a clonmel town supporter but be realistic for gods sake.ye've won the league 6 years in a row,and i take my hat off to ye,but stop complaining about something that is nothing.easy games startin off.next thing you'll say we pick the refs or somethin..if anyone is doin it ye are.

[hooper74]

in fairness if saints allegedly get easier games starting off ten they would have the hardest run in at the most nerve wracking time of the season,so there is no unfair advantages,the best team always wins the league

[DrRobert]

in fairness if saints allegedly get easier games starting off ten they would have the hardest run in at the most nerve wracking time of the season,so there is no unfair advantages,the best team always wins the league

well said.my point exactly.it was a stupid statement.i expected more comin from a clonmel town man.

[Freddy]

I take back what i said..my apologies to Doc and Hooper..you are right, it doesnt really matter what the fixtures are,,as you said, the best team always wins the league anyway!!:p

[hooper74]

and nobody is debating the fact town are the best side,their record is unquestionable,you can be lucky in cup competitions but the league table never lies and last yrs table shows town are the best but saints and villa are gettin much closer

[Freddy]

Agreed! I think last season was much tighter than previous years and i believe it will be even closer this year. Pretty much every team is capable of taking points off every other team...should be very interesting.

[Mega Tots]

Please, don't be an idiot. Of course the number of goals is relevant. The Barry Ryan fan club(Den Perry, Tipp Top, Mega Tots and of course Hooper74) on here have been putting up in lights the number of goals scored by him and how he is a top class player. When Ron questioned his success at LOI level, Hooper kindly responded with the stats that Ryan did indeed play LOI first team - 12 times no less. Now, I believe its reasonable to ask how many goals he scored at that level, seeing as his supporters here go on about this goalscoring prowess so much.

i know we have moved on from this point but i had to laugh at the ridiculous nature of this comment...its a junior website so whats LOI got to do with it.....i was at the clonmel celtic game where villa had to win to force a last game decider with town....they won 3-2 and barry scored all 3, he also scored in the decider where they beat town 3-2 so this craic where he only scores against poor sides is hilarious,its a junior website so lets focus on that,has mcgrath and coady left town? i think town should sign barry and i know he would love to play there again whether or not he would admit it and he would be a perfect replacement for moroney,too much politics gets in the way

[ronburgundy]

i know we have moved on from this point but i had to laugh at the ridiculous nature of this comment...its a junior website so whats LOI got to do with it.....i was at the clonmel celtic game where villa had to win to force a last game decider with town....they won 3-2 and barry scored all 3, he also scored in the decider where they beat town 3-2 so this craic where he only scores against poor sides is hilarious,its a junior website so lets focus on that,has mcgrath and coady left town? i think town should sign barry and i know he would love to play there again whether or not he would admit it and he would be a perfect replacement for moroney,too much politics gets in the way


get over it man,its getting very sad at this stage.

[maxwellsmart]

i know we have moved on from this point but i had to laugh at the ridiculous nature of this comment...its a junior website so whats LOI got to do with it.....i was at the clonmel celtic game where villa had to win to force a last game decider with town....they won 3-2 and barry scored all 3, he also scored in the decider where they beat town 3-2 so this craic where he only scores against poor sides is hilarious,its a junior website so lets focus on that,has mcgrath and coady left town? i think town should sign barry and i know he would love to play there again whether or not he would admit it and he would be a perfect replacement for moroney,too much politics gets in the way

Its got everything to do with it. Tipp Topp rated Barry Ryan as Peake Villa's best player - yet a number of his teamates performed well at a higher level(LOI) and he didn't.Therefore to refer to the LOI is totally relevant-just because its a junior forum does not mean LOI should not be mentioned.However, because it does not show Mr Ryan in a favourable light you are not happy with it. Of course if he had score tons of goals there you would be touting it.So perhaps you should laugh at the "ridiculous nature of your own comment.

In addition, there were 4 matches between Peake and Town.Now, considering Town, Peake and Saints were the top three,I'd be interested to know how many goals he scored between those 4 against Town and the two against Saints....

[the 12 th man]

This has been done to death lads,can we move on?

[Tipp Top]

Girl's Girls can we not move on from this topic of Barry. Ron asked a question on who would be in peoples top 5 players I choose barry on what he achieved in the TSDL last season and in years gone bye. Unfortunately for some this has not gone down well with a small few of you who seem to have a personal grudge with the chap. The top 5 was to be picked on playing in the TSDL and not taking other leagues that players have palayed in into account.Their is a seperate Forum for LOI players past and present so if you want to talk about Barry and LOI please go their and lets leave this forum to the Tsdl.

Does anyone know when the fixtures will be out for the season.?A good start is going to be very important to the teams that are looking to win the league this year.

[hooper74]

it will be interesting if saints or peake get off to a flyer....with town having new management maybe it will take them time to settle and they have never really had to play catch up

[hooper74]

also whats going on in cahir...lots of new players and new management?

[ronburgundy]

it will be interesting if saints or peake get off to a flyer....with town having new management maybe it will take them time to settle and they have never really had to play catch up


i have heard that michael ryan, barry ryan( if playing) ted o connor and aaron ryan are all suspended for opening few games for peake. will be hard for them to start well if that is the case. heard only tobin out for saints.

[Tipp Top]

i have heard that michael ryan, barry ryan( if playing) ted o connor and aaron ryan are all suspended for opening few games for peake. will be hard for them to start well if that is the case. heard only tobin out for saints.


What on earth are all those suspended for? I know none of them got sent off in the play off last year. Or is it this stupid points accumilation system. Villa could strugle so at the start if this is true. You didnt mention Paul Breen in your list Ron I def taught he was going to have a couple of games ban after his sending off in the complex at the end of last season ??

[hooper74]

breen served bothe those 2 game suspensions at the end of last season so has clean slate coming into new season,if villa start poorly with those absentees then i think they will be in trouble,its vital to get momentum early doors

[Freddy]

breen served bothe those 2 game suspensions at the end of last season so has clean slate coming into new season,if villa start poorly with those absentees then i think they will be in trouble,its vital to get momentum early doors

I agree,momentum early in the season is vital. I think that the situation with Town and the new management etc could go two ways. Either it will take them a few games to get going or else the usual buzz that a new manager brings will drive them on from the start. Obvious enough point to make I suppose.. I just hope that it's the latter scenario that occurs rather than the former! Saw the fixtures earlier too.. Interesting one for saints against Celtic,will be anxious to see who comes out with the points in that game!