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drought90
15/09/2009, 2:33 PM
yes the new celtic lineup is very exciting and they play the best football in the league along with saints.i don't think anyone could have foreseen town's demise this year,however i don't think its blossoms fault he is working with limited numbers and they are missing key players...also is there any truth in the rumours that rory kiely is joining celtic?
ponyobrien
15/09/2009, 5:18 PM
yes the new celtic lineup is very exciting and they play the best football in the league along with saints.i don't think anyone could have foreseen town's demise this year,however i don't think its blossoms fault he is working with limited numbers and they are missing key players...also is there any truth in the rumours that rory kiely is joining celtic?

Time will tell on that one
balls
16/09/2009, 9:10 PM
any score in from saints and peake tonight
Mega Tots
16/09/2009, 9:21 PM
villa 1 saints 1 disgraceful refereeing,late equaliser for saints,everyone at the game including saints fans to be fair,agreed villa had been spectacularly robbed,it was so blatant,ref made no attempt to cover up what he was doing,a sorry situation
ponyobrien
16/09/2009, 9:42 PM
villa 1 saints 1 disgraceful refereeing,late equaliser for saints,everyone at the game including saints fans to be fair,agreed villa had been spectacularly robbed,it was so blatant,ref made no attempt to cover up what he was doing,a sorry situation

What happened
Mega Tots
16/09/2009, 10:29 PM
villa had a man sent off,hadnett played 8 minutes of injury time and in the injury time paul breen.....who should have been sent off scored the equaliser
likealion
17/09/2009, 8:06 AM
I don't understand why people think the refs want Michaels/Town to win all the time? I'm not saying they don't as I don't see many of their games but whats in it for them like if Town or Michaels win ahead of Villa and Celtic?
Pearoso27
17/09/2009, 9:55 AM
villa had a man sent off,hadnett played 8 minutes of injury time and in the injury time paul breen.....who should have been sent off scored the equaliser
A draw was the fair result in the game Michaels should have been out of sight at half time and Peake were the better side in the second half, if Peake keeper could hold on to a ball instead of parrying it they would have won.
Saints made 3 substitutions as i think did Peake so that 3 mins injury time, ref spoke to Michaels bench and booked about 4 of their players (1 minute). Peake player sent off and then decided to run across the pitch to the dressing rooms (1 minute) Think he booked 3 Peake lads (1 minute). That brings us up to 6 mins Saints equaliser was scored in the 95th! Played 2 minutes he shouldnt have.
Saints goal was offside no doubts but should have had a peno about 1 minute earlier after Peake keeper cleaned out Saints lad with 2 feet.
The linesman or refs assistant (a.k.a PLANK) on the St.Ailbees side was Ref Of The Year last season theres a touch of irony for you!
Quietman
17/09/2009, 10:06 AM
A draw was the fair result in the game Michaels should have been out of sight at half time and Peake were the better side in the second half, if Peake keeper could hold on to a ball instead of parrying it they would have won.
Saints made 3 substitutions as i think did Peake so that 3 mins injury time, ref spoke to Michaels bench and booked about 4 of their players (1 minute). Peake player sent off and then decided to run across the pitch to the dressing rooms (1 minute) Think he booked 3 Peake lads (1 minute). That brings us up to 6 mins Saints equaliser was scored in the 95th! Played 2 minutes he shouldnt have.
Saints goal was offside no doubts but should have had a peno about 1 minute earlier after Peake keeper cleaned out Saints lad with 2 feet.
The linesman or refs assistant (a.k.a PLANK) on the St.Ailbees side was Ref Of The Year last season theres a touch of irony for you!
Don't know where you get your time added on from pearso!! Half a minute for each sustitution in the half, so if six subs were made then your 3 minutes is correct. Bookings and sending offs aren't added on. If the physio was on the pitch to attend a player then again its half a minute for each time. The only way 8 minutes could be added on is if there was a serious injury where the game was held up for the player to be removed or similar lenghty delay.
Tipp Top
17/09/2009, 2:23 PM
A draw was the fair result in the game Michaels should have been out of sight at half time and Peake were the better side in the second half, if Peake keeper could hold on to a ball instead of parrying it they would have won.
Saints made 3 substitutions as i think did Peake so that 3 mins injury time, ref spoke to Michaels bench and booked about 4 of their players (1 minute). Peake player sent off and then decided to run across the pitch to the dressing rooms (1 minute) Think he booked 3 Peake lads (1 minute). That brings us up to 6 mins Saints equaliser was scored in the 95th! Played 2 minutes he shouldnt have.
Saints goal was offside no doubts but should have had a peno about 1 minute earlier after Peake keeper cleaned out Saints lad with 2 feet.
The linesman or refs assistant (a.k.a PLANK) on the St.Ailbees side was Ref Of The Year last season theres a touch of irony for you!

Pearso I would love to know what game you were watching last night (maybe the lights blinded your sight) but saints def shouldnt have had the game out of sight at half time. The first half was a very even game.
Its great to be able to look at this from a neutral point of view. The villa player that got sent off deserved to go 2 bookable offences nobody could complain but the irony in that is that 2 saints players should have gone 1 before the villa sending off and one after it Both saints players were both on yellows when they decided to put in two footed tackles on villa players one of them in question was Paul Breen. Yes it was a pen to saints and fair play to the saints player for attempting to stay on his feet. The saints goal was off side and also it was a clear hand ball to put the ball over the line. The 8 mins injury time was a joke and so were most of the refs decisions throughout the night. Can someone please tell me how a ref fron tipp town is let ref a game of such importance as last night its an absolute disgrace.I am only glad that it wasnt my club that was on the reveiving end of what went on last night.
Quietman
17/09/2009, 2:35 PM
Pearso I would love to know what game you were watching last night (maybe the lights blinded your sight) but saints def shouldnt have had the game out of sight at half time. The first half was a very even game.
Its great to be able to look at this from a neutral point of view. The villa player that got sent off deserved to go 2 bookable offences nobody could complain but the irony in that is that 2 saints players should have gone 1 before the villa sending off and one after it Both saints players were both on yellows when they decided to put in two footed tackles on villa players one of them in question was Paul Breen. Yes it was a pen to saints and fair play to the saints player for attempting to stay on his feet. The saints goal was off side and also it was a clear hand ball to put the ball over the line. The 8 mins injury time was a joke and so were most of the refs decisions throughout the night. Can someone please tell me how a ref fron tipp town is let ref a game of such importance as last night its an absolute disgrace.I am only glad that it wasnt my club that was on the reveiving end of what went on last night.
Can someone explain how the goal was offside........
Pearoso27
17/09/2009, 2:39 PM
Don't know where you get your time added on from pearso!! Half a minute for each sustitution in the half, so if six subs were made then your 3 minutes is correct. Bookings and sending offs aren't added on. If the physio was on the pitch to attend a player then again its half a minute for each time. The only way 8 minutes could be added on is if there was a serious injury where the game was held up for the player to be removed or similar lenghty delay.
Are you a ref??
Where are you getting your info from. Im just re-capping all the stoppages and calculating from there. I know 30 secs is added on for substitutions i presumed it was added on for bookings also.
The physios were on for both teams at least once. is time not added on for a sending off considering the Peake player didnt leave the field immediately?
Quietman
17/09/2009, 2:51 PM
Are you a ref??
Where are you getting your info from. Im just re-capping all the stoppages and calculating from there. I know 30 secs is added on for substitutions i presumed it was added on for bookings also.
The physios were on for both teams at least once. is time not added on for a sending off considering the Peake player didnt leave the field immediately?

It could be added if he didn't leave immediatly, however it wouldn't be much.....Theres mixed reports coming back depending on who you talk to, some are saying just over 4 minutes was added and some saying 8. Big difference!! I Honestly couldn't see how 8 mins could have been added.
Pearoso27
17/09/2009, 3:15 PM
Pearso I would love to know what game you were watching last night (maybe the lights blinded your sight) but saints def shouldnt have had the game out of sight at half time. The first half was a very even game.
Its great to be able to look at this from a neutral point of view. The villa player that got sent off deserved to go 2 bookable offences nobody could complain but the irony in that is that 2 saints players should have gone 1 before the villa sending off and one after it Both saints players were both on yellows when they decided to put in two footed tackles on villa players one of them in question was Paul Breen. Yes it was a pen to saints and fair play to the saints player for attempting to stay on his feet. The saints goal was off side and also it was a clear hand ball to put the ball over the line. The 8 mins injury time was a joke and so were most of the refs decisions throughout the night. Can someone please tell me how a ref fron tipp town is let ref a game of such importance as last night its an absolute disgrace.I am only glad that it wasnt my club that was on the reveiving end of what went on last night.

Saints missed or had saved 4 clear cut chances in the first half Peake had 1. That you cant argue with!
Thats why i said they should have been out of sight at half time!
Try coming out of the bushes to watch games you get a better view from the fence!
Mega Tots
17/09/2009, 3:22 PM
Saints missed or had saved 4 clear cut chances in the first half Peake had 1. That you cant argue with!
Thats why i said they should have been out of sight at half time!
Try coming out of the bushes to watch games you get a better view from the fence!

if a goal is offside and hand ball and 5 minutes into injury time.......all of the above we are agreed on , then clearly the referee has robbed villa blind, and the point that the linesman was ref of the year last year is hilarious because i think were all agreed on our judgement of him,he blew a game up for saints last year against bansha 6 mins early,i remember you guys being less than happy then
Freddy
17/09/2009, 4:22 PM
Lots of bickering going on about this game! I was actually at the game lads and i must say a draw was actually the fair result no matter what way you look at it. Town are out of the running for the league this year so i went to watch this game as it was between two potential winners of the league. Saints just about were the better team in the first half and same can be saib for Peake in the second. Regarding the sending off, it was justified..however Paul Breen did make contact with the ball for the tackle that some people say he should have got a second yellow for...i was five feet away,,he made definite contact with the ball. On the Saints equaliser, there was a definite handball but in fairness the linesman couldnt possibly see it as his view was obstructed and the ref's positioning wasnt great either. Im a neutral here and i didnt really care who won the game but a draw was definitely the fair result..no doubt!!
likealion
18/09/2009, 3:12 PM
Oh yeah as far as I know Rory Kiely has signed for Celtic, however the town secretary didn't sign the form in time for him to play this weekend
Mega Tots
18/09/2009, 7:08 PM
we could bicker all day about this game but surely if we are acknowledging it was offside and hand ball and we could all see that from the fence....how can we excuse the referee and linesmen with the best views in the house not seeing it??? how did we all manage to see it??
drought90
19/09/2009, 8:55 PM
celtic beat bridge 3-1 in a tight affair.celtic left it late with 2 late goals but in fairness the bridge didnt lie down and fought till the end...also i hear young mark power has left clonmel town for cork city,another big blow for the town in my opinion.
ponyobrien
20/09/2009, 6:42 PM
How did Town do today
Tipperary_Man
20/09/2009, 7:32 PM
How did Town do today

postponed according to the tsdl website
likealion
21/09/2009, 7:41 AM
postponed according to the tsdl website

Rock couldn't field a team I heard
bad bhob
21/09/2009, 12:54 PM
Rock couldn't field a team I heard




nothing will be done about it ,as usual
balls
21/09/2009, 5:09 PM
yet there b team managed to play yesterday at half five. Surely these players could have fufilled the first teams fixture
balls
21/09/2009, 7:08 PM
yet there b team managed to play yesterday at half five. Surely these players could have fufilled the first teams fixture
West Hammer
21/09/2009, 8:44 PM
Rock can not be aloud to pick and chose which fixture to play and if 11 players can be found they must play the First team game. The league must act as all Rock seem to be doing this year is causing 1 problem after another. Did they not give a couple of walk-overs last year?
Freddy
21/09/2009, 9:34 PM
They gave a few walk overs last season alright. I heard it through the grapevine that there was some G.A.A. match on that players were involved in?? May be true or not i dont know. Youd wonder what excuse they gave the T.S.D.L. though? Only certain teams will get away with this kind of carry-on!
likealion
22/09/2009, 8:26 AM
Rock can not be aloud to pick and chose which fixture to play and if 11 players can be found they must play the First team game. The league must act as all Rock seem to be doing this year is causing 1 problem after another. Did they not give a couple of walk-overs last year?

But what if playing for the A team on Sunday would of made a few of them ineligible to play for the B team for the rest of the season? Would hardly of been fair on the B squad
Referee09
22/09/2009, 11:55 AM
But what if playing for the A team on Sunday would of made a few of them ineligible to play for the B team for the rest of the season? Would hardly of been fair on the B squad

Wouldn't be fair at all, however it's also not fair to the other team who were without a game at the weekend because Rovers didn't fulfill the fixture.:ball:
West Hammer
22/09/2009, 9:32 PM
still no excuse. They have only played 6 premier games so far and if some B players have already played in 4 of those games then they have a real problem!
likealion
23/09/2009, 7:33 AM
still no excuse. They have only played 6 premier games so far and if some B players have already played in 4 of those games then they have a real problem!


So the B team would have to call off their match instead more than likely, not very fair on them then
ponyobrien
23/09/2009, 9:20 AM
So the B team would have to call off their match instead more than likely, not very fair on them then

If they can't field a team they shouldn't have a b team
Insidetherock
23/09/2009, 12:22 PM
If they can't field a team they shouldn't have a b team

I have to agree with that. If a club can only field 1 team, then it must field a team in the higest division possible.

What is the story with the points in the case of a walkover. It would be unfair on clubs who have already played Rock Rovers and dropped points to them, to see Clonmel Town get three points simply because Rock chose not to play this game, while they did play others.
kamikaze
23/09/2009, 8:11 PM
Rock couldn't field a team I heard
Rumours around the town that the Rock premier team is being pulled out,dont know if its true or not yet though, if it is how would the players be fixed as regards signing for other teams or dropping back to play for their 4th division team??
balls
23/09/2009, 9:32 PM
the deadline for transfers for most leagues is 1st of october not sure if tsdl have this deadline but almost certain its the case in limerick , cork, dublin leagues etc. think its a bit hasty if rock pull themselves out though. i did notice in gaa reports in nationalist that a lot of rock players were playing hurling with carrick davins and swans so if these lads aint giving soccer any commitment it is very frustrating for the club especially with the way the tsdl premier division is run with half the league campaign over by 1st of october. but rocks results have been good this season and even if they gave another 2 walkovers ( 3 i guess being maximum before expullsion) if they have to. they would prob still stay up as id fancy them ahead off oldbridge and borris to stay up. overall for the club they would be better off getting rid of b team keep 1st team going for this season and even if they are relegated could rebuild again in division 1 next year as they done a few seasons ago. with the way alot of posters on this site talk about rock i dont think many would shed a tear if rovers went out of league but i for one would not like to see them go out like this
ponyobrien
24/09/2009, 3:10 AM
the deadline for transfers for most leagues is 1st of october not sure if tsdl have this deadline but almost certain its the case in limerick , cork, dublin leagues etc.

The TSDL deadline is September 30th
Insidetherock
24/09/2009, 10:34 AM
the deadline for transfers for most leagues is 1st of october not sure if tsdl have this deadline but almost certain its the case in limerick , cork, dublin leagues etc. think its a bit hasty if rock pull themselves out though. i did notice in gaa reports in nationalist that a lot of rock players were playing hurling with carrick davins and swans so if these lads aint giving soccer any commitment it is very frustrating for the club especially with the way the tsdl premier division is run with half the league campaign over by 1st of october. but rocks results have been good this season and even if they gave another 2 walkovers ( 3 i guess being maximum before expullsion) if they have to. they would prob still stay up as id fancy them ahead off oldbridge and borris to stay up. overall for the club they would be better off getting rid of b team keep 1st team going for this season and even if they are relegated could rebuild again in division 1 next year as they done a few seasons ago. with the way alot of posters on this site talk about rock i dont think many would shed a tear if rovers went out of league but i for one would not like to see them go out like this

I would not like to see Rock Rovers go from the league either Balls.. no more than I would like to see any team go, but there has to be a level of consistency and fairness in how they deal with the league and other teams

I will make no bones about it, but I would be annoyed if Clonmel Town got three points for a walkover, while my club went and fulfilled a fixture and only have one point to show for it.

That does sound completely selfish, but it is the nature of the beast, and them fulfilling a B team fixture on the same weekend, makes it worse to be honest
useless
24/09/2009, 11:37 AM
In fairness to the Rock,they did ring Tommy Lewis on the wednesday before the Town game.They knew they would be low on numbers with all the GAA games on that same weekend but held out until the Sunday in the hope that some of the GAA players would have a change of Heart.

Tommy Lewis didnt want to know about it and would not postpone fixture.
Hence Town get the points the Rock a hefty fine and there name tarnished(especially on here)for the rest of the season.

They are not folding.They will fulfill there Munster Junior Cup fixture this weekend with mainly B team players.Both Carrick Swan and Davins have GAA fixtures again this Sunday so numbers will be low again.Its very frustrating for the men in charge.Once GAA is finished the Rock will be fine.

I know GAA is not an excuse but its hard to get players that play only one code in a an average size town like Carrick.

Theres 3 GAA teams and 2 Soccer Clubs both with multiple Adult teams

Rant over.
likealion
24/09/2009, 9:18 PM
If they can't field a team they shouldn't have a b team

true I suppose
bad bhob
25/09/2009, 11:24 AM
[QUOTE=useless;1237867]In fairness to the Rock,they did ring Tommy Lewis on the wednesday before the Town game.They knew they would be low on numbers with all the GAA games on that same weekend but held out until the Sunday in the hope that some of the GAA players would have a change of Heart.

Tommy Lewis didnt want to know about it and would not postpone fixture.
Hence Town get the points the Rock a hefty fine and there name tarnished(especially on here)for the rest of the season.

They are not folding.They will fulfill there Munster Junior Cup fixture this weekend with mainly B team players.Both Carrick Swan and Davins have GAA fixtures again this Sunday so numbers will be low again.Its very frustrating for the men in charge.Once GAA is finished the Rock will be fine.

I know GAA is not an excuse but its hard to get players that play only one code in a an average size town like Carrick
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a lot of teams have gaelic players in their teams and still turn out teams on a sunday, bansha are still envolved in both hurling and football ( playing carrick davins on sunday )and yet can turn up with a team and fulfill their fixture
ronburgundy
25/09/2009, 3:33 PM
well said. its amazing for a club that hasnt had success to be so hated by other clubs. saints and town are unpopular because success breeds contempt while rock rovers are unpopular because of the kind of people they are. it would be hard to throw them out over this when they were let away with an assault against peake but if they are, they certainly wont be missed. they add nothing to the league as it is
the dazzler
25/09/2009, 4:06 PM
heard barry ryan is getting a transfer from pike to peakevilla without even playing a game with pike some bloke that chap:rolleyes:
the only 1
26/09/2009, 2:52 PM
heard barry ryan is getting a transfer from pike to peakevilla without even playing a game with pike some bloke that chap:rolleyes:

hes getting a transfer to clonmel fact without even playing a game unreal he is if true :):)
bad bhob
26/09/2009, 5:24 PM
well said. its amazing for a club that hasnt had success to be so hated by other clubs. saints and town are unpopular because success breeds contempt while rock rovers are unpopular because of the kind of people they are. it would be hard to throw them out over this when they were let away with an assault against peake but if they are, they certainly wont be missed. they add nothing to the league as it is


st michaels and town are unpopular cos they take players off other clubs and get every decision from refs ;);):D
West Hammer
26/09/2009, 7:16 PM
As far as people in South Tipp are concerned he is just acting true to form!! IF TRUE
Mega Tots
26/09/2009, 8:34 PM
why what other club has he signed for and not played with? grow up...hes played 10 years with villa at schoolboys,youths junior,lets discuss football
hooper74
26/09/2009, 8:56 PM
we have discussed this topic to death,hes a good player and a big addition to town if this is true,saints and town sunday week,villa and celtic will be monitoring that one closely!!!
DrRobert
26/09/2009, 9:22 PM
he is a good player but not as good as some people are making him out to be.he is no chalky or breen or tony scully.so lets get off this boring topic..

people seem to have this vendetta against us and town,saying we get all the decisions.that is aload of crap.im sick to the teeth of it,all down the years people have always said it about micheals.its down to jealousy.if it makes you happy to think we have the refs payed off or that we get all the decisions etc etc,well then fine.suit yourself.its nothin to do with us,our gameplan every week and every year is to go out and win and nevermind anyone else.
Tipp Top
26/09/2009, 9:59 PM
Exactly this is a dead topic, hes not even in the country ,if he signs for town it will be good business on their behalf, was plenty of clubs trying to get his signature.

The reason why people dont like and bikker about Town and Saints is very simple its jealousy nobody ever likes a successfull team/club. but at the end of the day we all would love our clubs to be as successful as both these clubs. It was the same for peake villa back in the late 90s and early 00s when they dominiated schoolboy and youth football everybody hated them.
the dazzler
27/09/2009, 9:21 AM
lads was just saying its bad form for a player to sign with a club ie pike and without playing a game ask to leave to only reason hes doing this is coz he was not garenteed a game no way would he got on pike with alan barry and moloney there they even have phelan sub with them