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complexman
09/02/2010, 7:57 AM
yes i agree that celtic were robbed of a goal. even the peake players on the pitch admitted it went in. the sending off after that incident for dissent only rubbed salt into the wounds. it was never a 4-1 match. In saying this, the celtic player who threw the ball into the face of a villa player for the first sending off was very foolish and really did his team no favours. you cant really argue with the other sending of either. as for the players missing i think villa were without a couple also.
I am sick of Celtic moaning about referees. Every time they lose, it’s the refs fault. They were having a go at Town a few weeks ago, claiming that Town should have a number of players sent off. Yet they get 3 sent off and it’s the refs fault. You can’t throw a ball into a players face and expect nothing else but a red. I have nothing against them and I think it’s great for the league and for Clonmel that there is another strong team to shake things up. But please stop moaning, you have been doing it for years and it is getting tiresome. I saw Clonmel Town knocked out in the FAI by Old Bridge a few years ago. Town were winning 1-0 and they had an effort go three feet over the line but there were no linesmen and the goal wasn’t given. **** happens.
Muiris Walsh pointed out last night on the radio that Celtic played Michaels, Peake twice and Town twice and taken only 5pts from 15. As Muiris said these are the games that you win and lose titles. I fancy Peake myself to win it now.
Thought Town were poor last Sunday, still they got through I suppose!
With 2 good FAI games in prospect on Sunday 21st wouldn't it make sense to have the Celtic v Michael's game @ 12 with the 'Town game at 2. I'm sure all local followers would like to see both these games irrespective of their allegiances (if any) and the winners of the TSDL 'derby' would be interested in seeing possible future opposition in action. What are the chances??
ponyobrien
09/02/2010, 7:32 PM
I am sick of Celtic moaning about referees. Every time they lose, it’s the refs fault. They were having a go at Town a few weeks ago, claiming that Town should have a number of players sent off. Yet they get 3 sent off and it’s the refs fault. You can’t throw a ball into a players face and expect nothing else but a red. I have nothing against them and I think it’s great for the league and for Clonmel that there is another strong team to shake things up. But please stop moaning, you have been doing it for years and it is getting tiresome. I saw Clonmel Town knocked out in the FAI by Old Bridge a few years ago. Town were winning 1-0 and they had an effort go three feet over the line but there were no linesmen and the goal wasn’t given. **** happens.
Show me one post with a Celtic man complaining
complexman
10/02/2010, 7:18 AM
"and darren burns should have gone for eye gouging. It's bad when town resort to that. Town showed today what a dirty team they really are. This tie needed a top referee, not one who quakes in his boots when surrounded by town players. They have been getting away with this for too long. We want unbiased refereeing "
The Celtic webpage is having a go at the ref again. It states that two of your players were sent off harshly. I just think the club or who ever updates the web and does your notes should show a bit of dignity
tipp man
10/02/2010, 7:25 AM
With 2 good FAI games in prospect on Sunday 21st wouldn't it make sense to have the Celtic v Michael's game @ 12 with the 'Town game at 2. I'm sure all local followers would like to see both these games irrespective of their allegiances (if any) and the winners of the TSDL 'derby' would be interested in seeing possible future opposition in action. What are the chances??
On the radio on Monday night the games were down at the times you have said above. Celtic v Saints at noon, Town v Ballymun at 2.
Roberto
10/02/2010, 8:13 AM
"and darren burns should have gone for eye gouging. It's bad when town resort to that. Town showed today what a dirty team they really are. This tie needed a top referee, not one who quakes in his boots when surrounded by town players. They have been getting away with this for too long. We want unbiased refereeing "
The Celtic webpage is having a go at the ref again. It states that two of your players were sent off harshly. I just think the club or who ever updates the web and does your notes should show a bit of dignity
I think accusing Celtic of constantly moaning is a bit rich coming from a Clonmel Town fan. This is a team that contains Tony Scully arguably the biggest moaner on a football pitch and before that Charlie McGeever who basically bullied referees. Its a fact that after Sunday's game the League secretary received a phone call from an individual who has no connections with Clonmel Celtic complaining about the standard of refereeing. Is it any co-incidence that Jim McKell has been relegated to referee a Division 3 game this weekend. It is also a fact that one of the officials at the Town Celtic game has since said that there were some major errors made in that game (majority of which favoured Town). It is also a fact that these 2 results have effectively ended Celtic's league chances. I think they Celtic have every reason to have a good moan.
Quietman
10/02/2010, 8:36 AM
The Celtic webpage is having a go at the ref again. It states that two of your players were sent off harshly. I just think the club or who ever updates the web and does your notes should show a bit of dignity[/QUOTE]
Whoever updates that website obviously wasn't at the game.....this is whats on the site:
"Would it be asking too much for referees to meet every so often, maybe they do but the evidence isn’t there, to discuss refereeing issues with a view to introducing an element of consistency in their officiating. It is really demoralizing for the club that 2 big league games recently, that could have effectively end our title hopes, had one major thing in common, i.e. very poor refereeing. Could referees please get together and define ‘violent conduct’ and what punishment it merits? A player was dismissed last Sunday for petulantly throwing the ball at another player, while in another game a player who violently kicked another player as he lay on the ground goes unpunished. Also could they also agree how they should punish a player who verbally abuses them. A red card may be warranted but if so can they please issue the card in every instance. I have witnessed 1) referee’s ignoring abuse, 2) referee’s giving it back, 3) a referee having a quite word , 4) the issue of a yellow card and now 5) the issue of a red card. Whatever they decide is it too much to ask for a bit of consistency. Finally a good referee is not one that always rigidly applies the letter of the law. A good referee is one who uses his discretion and most of all COMMON SENSE in applying the letter of the law, something that was sadly lacking at the Peake Villa v Clonmel Celtic game last Sunday. "
Now I WAS at the game, and as a neutral, Celtics discipline is shocking. If you throw a ball at another player, then all you can expect is red and anyone with even the slightest knowledge of the Laws knows this.
Also if you scream aggressively at the ref that he's a Wa?k£r, and everyone in the ground hears it, your gonna see red.
So to answer the Celtic website:
1: Violent conduct = Red Card
2: Foul abusive and insulting language = Red Card
A good team is one who holds it's discipline, even when up against it and down in numbers and one who doesn't whinge and moan about every decision that goes against them, always blaming others. Blame the childish player who threw the ball at another player and the guy who thinks its ok to abuse a referee!!:mad:
Quietman
10/02/2010, 8:47 AM
Just read the match report on the Celtic website, it says the player was sent off for dissent and that the third red card was for a second yellow for a handball resulting in a penatly.........Now ive gone through the first one above but if memory serves me correctly, the yellow for the handball was his first yellow, and yes it resulted in a penalty,but he was sent off for a bad tackle minutes from full time..................consistency please Celtic!! and try watch the game eh!!:rolleyes:
GreenLane08
10/02/2010, 9:01 AM
I am sick of Celtic moaning about referees. Every time they lose, it’s the refs fault. They were having a go at Town a few weeks ago, claiming that Town should have a number of players sent off. Yet they get 3 sent off and it’s the refs fault. You can’t throw a ball into a players face and expect nothing else but a red. I have nothing against them and I think it’s great for the league and for Clonmel that there is another strong team to shake things up. But please stop moaning, you have been doing it for years and it is getting tiresome. I saw Clonmel Town knocked out in the FAI by Old Bridge a few years ago. Town were winning 1-0 and they had an effort go three feet over the line but there were no linesmen and the goal wasn’t given. **** happens.
Muiris Walsh pointed out last night on the radio that Celtic played Michaels, Peake twice and Town twice and taken only 5pts from 15. As Muiris said these are the games that you win and lose titles. I fancy Peake myself to win it now.
Thought Town were poor last Sunday, still they got through I suppose!
Fair bad when Town lads are remenising about a game from 4-5yrs ago about a ball that was over the line.......??? I don't remeber that at all. Bridge won fair and square that day and there was no such incident.
Complexman were you at the Town vs Bridge game in Munster last weekend?? Penalty for Town in last 15mins that was never a peno........nothing knew there when they were only 1-0 up and Bridge were threatening to score.
complexman
10/02/2010, 9:28 AM
It did happen- just ask david basquile, at least he was honest enough to admit it- anyway as you say it was five years ago. Town fans have plenty to remenise about, Leagues, FAI junior cups, Munster Junior Cups etc.
yes was at Bridge game Sunday. Town were poor, Old Bridge played well. That said Dwayne Burns missed tow sitters. had Ian Kavanagh scored ealry on, it may have been different game. In relation to the handball for the pen, I was down the other end and I didn't get a good view but it did look harsh.
Referee09
10/02/2010, 9:43 AM
I'd be happy to answer any q's anyone may have on the referreeing, obviously some are confused!!
celticlads
10/02/2010, 9:45 AM
lads just wondering if any of ye know anything about clonmel town youths, id imagine they are pretty strong. we play them this saturday in the last 16 of munster youths. it is probably the weakest team we have had in a few years but we will give it a go anyway.
tipp man
10/02/2010, 9:56 AM
Clonmel Town youths conceed too many goals to go far this year. Terrible at the back. Score a fair few too to be honest.
Roberto
10/02/2010, 1:28 PM
I'd be happy to answer any q's anyone may have on the referreeing, obviously some are confused!!
When you say 'some are confused' is it referees you are referring to???I hope a lot of local referees get in contact with you as there appears to be major confusion amongst some of them regarding rules:confused:
Referee09
10/02/2010, 1:49 PM
When you say 'some are confused' is it referees you are referring to???I hope a lot of local referees get in contact with you as there appears to be major confusion amongst some of them regarding rules:confused:
Well obviously I wasn't referring to you..............as you know everything!!:p
BigfeetBigsocks
10/02/2010, 2:05 PM
When you say 'some are confused' is it referees you are referring to???I hope a lot of local referees get in contact with you as there appears to be major confusion amongst some of them regarding rules:confused:
Hey Roberto, this argument will go on till the earth stops spinning.... i have had some discussions with Referee9 about these rules theres one major flaw with them is that none of the laws are distinct laws , they are opened to be interpretated by an official and there is where the flaw comes...that means there will always be inconsistences... thats not the referees fault that another referee interpretated the law differently... so one day its a yellow other is a red or no card... it happens because the powers who create the rules have made them to be guidelines and not distinct rules. It happens all the way from Junior to Senior .......
Roberto
10/02/2010, 2:53 PM
Hey Roberto, this argument will go on till the earth stops spinning.... i have had some discussions with Referee9 about these rules theres one major flaw with them is that none of the laws are distinct laws , they are opened to be interpretated by an official and there is where the flaw comes...that means there will always be inconsistences... thats not the referees fault that another referee interpretated the law differently... so one day its a yellow other is a red or no card... it happens because the powers who create the rules have made them to be guidelines and not distinct rules. It happens all the way from Junior to Senior .......
Well fair play to you Bigfeet. The most sensible post on this topic and a good one to draw a line under the matter, I suggest?
ponyobrien
10/02/2010, 5:06 PM
"and darren burns should have gone for eye gouging. It's bad when town resort to that. Town showed today what a dirty team they really are. This tie needed a top referee, not one who quakes in his boots when surrounded by town players. They have been getting away with this for too long. We want unbiased refereeing "
The Celtic webpage is having a go at the ref again. It states that two of your players were sent off harshly. I just think the club or who ever updates the web and does your notes should show a bit of dignity
That has nothing to do with last Sunday
Pearoso27
11/02/2010, 8:42 AM
lads just wondering if any of ye know anything about clonmel town youths, id imagine they are pretty strong. we play them this saturday in the last 16 of munster youths. it is probably the weakest team we have had in a few years but we will give it a go anyway.
Town have 3 quality Youth players. Adrian Cleere centre half, Michael Ivors centre field and Evan McGuire plays mostly on the right and is very pacey. What the rest lack in ability they make up in determination and effort. Most youth teams concede a considerable amount of goals thats the nature of Youth Football. They can be got at no doubt but you will have to be top of your game!
Mega Tots
11/02/2010, 12:45 PM
delighted to see common sense prevail and the 2 big fai games on at different times sunday week,most neutrals will go and see both and other clubs will organise morning kick offs to have a look at ballymun
celticlads
11/02/2010, 5:07 PM
Town have 3 quality Youth players. Adrian Cleere centre half, Michael Ivors centre field and Evan McGuire plays mostly on the right and is very pacey. What the rest lack in ability they make up in determination and effort. Most youth teams concede a considerable amount of goals thats the nature of Youth Football. They can be got at no doubt but you will have to be top of your game!
Does Mark Power not play with Clonmel anymore?
ponyobrien
14/02/2010, 3:23 PM
Clonmel Celtic 1-0 Avenue United
Quite a good game, both sides played good football
think mark power is with cork city now could be wrong though
Park100
14/02/2010, 7:45 PM
looks like the league is WIDE open now....
some result for rock rover s today. I know they take a fair bit of stick on this site. But we ll give them credit where its due. Looks like celtic and saints are doing there best to let town back into title race.
useless
15/02/2010, 10:53 AM
Well done to the Rock.Well worth there win,played very well.The run in will be very interesting from here on in.
Mega Tots
15/02/2010, 2:21 PM
Pa Quinn got 2 and the other was an OG. Great win considering they are the worst team in 30 years of the TSDL, FACT! WOHOO!
i think sundays result shows that saints are not as strong as you think they are,i would not be surprised to see celtic turn them over sunday
Pearoso27
16/02/2010, 7:16 AM
i think sundays result shows that saints are not as strong as you think they are,i would not be surprised to see celtic turn them over sunday
Oocchheeyy! Was waiting for that one didnt think it would have been from you Mega Tots!! HA! Poor result has to be said wasnt at it myself, heard a few reports back about the ref alright wont comment as i wasnt there anyone like to take the baton on this one.
Pearoso27
16/02/2010, 7:21 AM
Town have 3 quality Youth players. Adrian Cleere centre half, Michael Ivors centre field and Evan McGuire plays mostly on the right and is very pacey. What the rest lack in ability they make up in determination and effort. Most youth teams concede a considerable amount of goals thats the nature of Youth Football. They can be got at no doubt but you will have to be top of your game!
I have to apologise for this didnt think it would cause offence to anyone but it did, just a pity the person i offended didnt contact me about it but sure there you go! Opinions are like A** Holes everyone has one!
Mega Tots
16/02/2010, 11:35 AM
Oocchheeyy! Was waiting for that one didnt think it would have been from you Mega Tots!! HA! Poor result has to be said wasnt at it myself, heard a few reports back about the ref alright wont comment as i wasnt there anyone like to take the baton on this one.
ha ha of course it was coming :) the league is wide open now, saints cannot afford to make any more slip ups, peake villa are firmly in the driving seat in that if they win their games they win the league
ronburgundy
16/02/2010, 2:17 PM
ha ha of course it was coming :) the league is wide open now, saints cannot afford to make any more slip ups, peake villa are firmly in the driving seat in that if they win their games they win the league
i said that i would never try to predict a peake game again but i would put my mortgage on them not winning all their games, its just not in them. im not sayin they wont win the league but they certainly wont do it by winning all games. Even though they had a bad result at the weekend i still fancy saints to do it. more solid and organised
tipp man
17/02/2010, 10:10 AM
winners of Clonmel v Ballymun away to winners of Killarney and Corinthians.
winners of Carrick utd and WFTA at home to winners of Clonmel Celtic / St. Michaels (wow)
abbeyvale
17/02/2010, 5:13 PM
winners of Clonmel v Ballymun away to winners of Killarney and Corinthians.
winners of Carrick utd and WFTA at home to winners of Clonmel Celtic / St. Michaels (wow)
Clonmel play like they did last Sunday and they'll be hammered by Ballymun
C.T.F.C
18/02/2010, 6:41 AM
Clonmel play like they did last Sunday and they'll be hammered by Ballymun
Thanks for that amazing insight BUT we won't and we won't. Do you reckon Dolly Parton MIGHT just sleep on her back too????????
Junior Cup - Outright prices and a few match prices from Paddy Power .Celtic 6/4 v Michaels 11/8..wat do people reckon??
http://www.paddypower.com/football/irish-football/fai-junior-cup?ev_oc_grp_ids=4981
http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-matches/ireland-non-league
Tipp Top
19/02/2010, 9:40 AM
best of luck to clonmel town on sunday,be fantastic for the league if you can knock out the champions
Most up here now
http://www.paddypower.com/football/f...and-non-league (http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-matches/ireland-non-league)
i see timmy kiely has signed back with saint s from cork city on there website. Is he eligable to play in all competitions for saints ?
bishbash
19/02/2010, 5:24 PM
LUCOZADE SPORT MUNSTER JUNIOR CUP Quarter Final Draw
Leeside or Kildimo Utd v Pike Rvs or Wilton Utd
Villa FC or Blackcastle Utd or St Michaels v Nenagh AFC or Newcastle West
Tramore AFC or Ringmahon Rgs or Killarney Celtic or Lisselton Rvs v College Cors or Carrick Utd or Regional Utd
Askeaton or Clonmel Town v Janesboro or Clonmel Celtic
Games to be played on or before 20th / 21st March 2010.
Saints lead 1-0 against Celtic - Celtic missed penalty after 20 mins
Saints lead 1-0 against Celtic - Celtic missed penalty after 20 mins
3-0 now Celtic down to 10
Town won on pens - 0-0 after extra time
Insidetherock
21/02/2010, 10:41 PM
Excellent result today by Clonmel in the Complex. To put the Champions out is a massive achievement and puts the early season problems that they had right behind them. They'll surely regret the possibility of leaving another league title behind them, before September was out.
What's happened Clonmel Celtic ? They went from being probably the best team in the league early in the season, to free fall when the heat has come on. I feel sorry for them to be honest, would have been nice to see them carry on the early season form throughout the year.
Well done to St Michaels. Looks like they still know how to win a cup game, especially after the hiccup in Carrick last weekend. But, its another much more daunting trip to Carrick in the next round is it not ? Might be the end of their Cup hopes.
And are Peake finally going to get their hands on the title they so obviously crave ? Another three points carved out today in Cahir, and with the majority of the games left to play at home, some against teams with Cup's on their mind, and no outside Cup worries for themselves. It could be their year. I am not backing them however, because that would be the kiss of death.
Relegation time. Anyone willing to call that one yet ? Bridge now only 3 points behind Cahir, but with a game in hand. I'd call Cahir to survive, but have they to play each other again before the end of the season. That'll go to the wire.
And finally, my own club, Cashel Town. Another good win today, bringing us up to a very very healthy 21 points. Without question our best Premier league year in a long long time. We might not be ready to beat the big boys on a regular basis just yet (though we are the only blot on Peake's season so far), but after all the early season hype has died down, we can look back and say that we've done really well. Plenty to build on, and when you think of some of the draws we've had, where we left points behind us, we could have really made an impression in the final standings. Overall though, great season so far. Hopefully we can finish on a high and build again to go even better in the seasons ahead.
Town Fan
22/02/2010, 10:27 AM
Excellent result today by Clonmel in the Complex. To put the Champions out is a massive achievement and puts the early season problems that they had right behind them. They'll surely regret the possibility of leaving another league title behind them, before September was out.
What's happened Clonmel Celtic ? They went from being probably the best team in the league early in the season, to free fall when the heat has come on. I feel sorry for them to be honest, would have been nice to see them carry on the early season form throughout the year.
Well done to St Michaels. Looks like they still know how to win a cup game, especially after the hiccup in Carrick last weekend. But, its another much more daunting trip to Carrick in the next round is it not ? Might be the end of their Cup hopes.
And are Peake finally going to get their hands on the title they so obviously crave ? Another three points carved out today in Cahir, and with the majority of the games left to play at home, some against teams with Cup's on their mind, and no outside Cup worries for themselves. It could be their year. I am not backing them however, because that would be the kiss of death.
Relegation time. Anyone willing to call that one yet ? Bridge now only 3 points behind Cahir, but with a game in hand. I'd call Cahir to survive, but have they to play each other again before the end of the season. That'll go to the wire.
And finally, my own club, Cashel Town. Another good win today, bringing us up to a very very healthy 21 points. Without question our best Premier league year in a long long time. We might not be ready to beat the big boys on a regular basis just yet (though we are the only blot on Peake's season so far), but after all the early season hype has died down, we can look back and say that we've done really well. Plenty to build on, and when you think of some of the draws we've had, where we left points behind us, we could have really made an impression in the final standings. Overall though, great season so far. Hopefully we can finish on a high and build again to go even better in the seasons ahead.
Was at both games yesterday. Had Celtic scored the penalty it may have been a different game. What Craig Condon was thinking off only he knows. It was a stupid and reckless tackle, he could have broken the Michael's players leg. Is that the second game in a row he has been sent off?He can have no complaints. Once saints got the 2nd goal, it was game over. They could have scored five. Big test for Celtic now against Boro next week.
Town were great. Everyone of the players played their part. Raymie and John Shanahan were super. However Ian Barnes and Darren Burns were outstanding, they left everything out on the field. Town deserved to go through. It was a huge result for them. Felt sorry for the Ballymun lad who missed, he was distraught at the end. Still that’s sport. For Town, it keeps the season going. Well done to one and all. You wouldn't bet against them now
tipp man
23/02/2010, 7:14 AM
You are spot-on; you wouldn't bet against Clonmel Town winning it now. Strange thing is though, last year they had a much better and more balanced side in my opinion.
Roberto
23/02/2010, 8:46 AM
Excellent result today by Clonmel in the Complex. To put the Champions out is a massive achievement and puts the early season problems that they had right behind them. They'll surely regret the possibility of leaving another league title behind them, before September was out.
What's happened Clonmel Celtic ? They went from being probably the best team in the league early in the season, to free fall when the heat has come on. I feel sorry for them to be honest, would have been nice to see them carry on the early season form throughout the year.
Well done to St Michaels. Looks like they still know how to win a cup game, especially after the hiccup in Carrick last weekend. But, its another much more daunting trip to Carrick in the next round is it not ? Might be the end of their Cup hopes.
And are Peake finally going to get their hands on the title they so obviously crave ? Another three points carved out today in Cahir, and with the majority of the games left to play at home, some against teams with Cup's on their mind, and no outside Cup worries for themselves. It could be their year. I am not backing them however, because that would be the kiss of death.
Relegation time. Anyone willing to call that one yet ? Bridge now only 3 points behind Cahir, but with a game in hand. I'd call Cahir to survive, but have they to play each other again before the end of the season. That'll go to the wire.
And finally, my own club, Cashel Town. Another good win today, bringing us up to a very very healthy 21 points. Without question our best Premier league year in a long long time. We might not be ready to beat the big boys on a regular basis just yet (though we are the only blot on Peake's season so far), but after all the early season hype has died down, we can look back and say that we've done really well. Plenty to build on, and when you think of some of the draws we've had, where we left points behind us, we could have really made an impression in the final standings. Overall though, great season so far. Hopefully we can finish on a high and build again to go even better in the seasons ahead.
Don't think you should have any reason to feel sorry for Celtic, rock. They may have come up short in the FAI and have a huge test in Munster next Sunday but they can still be content with their run in both these cups. You can't expect them to come from nowhere last year and suddenly be challenging for the FAI and Munster. They are still in a good postion to defend the Tipperary Cup, with Villa gone and either Town or Michaels soon to join them and despite recent setbacks they are not totally out of the league either. If they can build on this season and take it a step further next year that's progress. At the start of the year I am sure they would have been happy with a run in the big cups, to challenge for the league and have a go at defending their Tipperary Cup so all in all I think they can be pleased so far. I would imagine Cashel set their sights a bit lower, no offence intended, as there main aim would have been to retain their league status which they have comfortably done although I'm not too sure how you fared in the cups. To say Celtic are in freefall I think is a bit of an exaggeration.
However as I said no need to feel sorry for Celtic!!
definatly no need to feel sorry for celtic, they went out to a good michaels side so no shame there. speaking of saints credit where its due to the club looks like there youths are gonna win youth league, there juniors the premier league and there b team look like winning division 1 league not to mention other cup competitions there still in, so definatly a big improvement from saints compared to last few years
Tipp Top
23/02/2010, 11:20 AM
another convincing win for cashel sunday....there is no doubt the club belongs at this level....i hope the players continue to push on and get as many points as possible and see how high up the table we can finish....congrats to clonmel town....a great scalp and i dont think anyone would bet against them going all the way now....especially with a favourable draw now in Killarney
oscar
24/02/2010, 10:41 AM
is condon unavailable this weekend so
Quietman
24/02/2010, 3:47 PM
I heard here in Cahir this avo, that the LOI Friendly between Cork City V Waterford Utd scheduled for Sat @ 2:30 in Cahir Park has been changed to Sporting Fingal V Waterford due to the demise of Cork. It's to celebrate Cahirs centenary and Fingal are bringing their Div One Champions Trophy and the FAI Cup which they won last season. Should be a great day out. Bring the kids and support the Club!
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