Tipp South & District League 2009/10

[Tipp Top]

Someone correct me if im wrong (NO DOUBT SOMEONE WILL) but the TSDL Premier league table has been updated with the results of Tuesday nights game. So am i to assume that the result stands between Clonmel and Peake???
Just another couple of questions one of you might help me with if Aaroon received a straight red for what im assuming was violent conduct will he receive a 3 game ban? Could he possibly miss out on the FAI Semi Final who ever Town end up playing in it and i think it was Scully who got injured in the game how bad was his injury? Will he be out for long if at all?

The league table does not have the points from the Town and Villa game updated on it. Both teams have 3 and 2 games left to play as was the case prior to Tuesday.The points haven't changed for either team on the Tabel.

[MunsterMunch]

The league table does not have the points from the Town and Villa game updated on it. Both teams have 3 and 2 games left to play as was the case prior to Tuesday.The points haven't changed for either team on the Tabel.

So judging by the current table, a win for Villa on Sunday guarantees them a playoff at least.
I can't see Clonmel Cetlic slipping up on Sunday, so 36 points is the target.
Michaels can still get to that amount if they win all their games, so anything but a win on Sunday means they are out of the reckoning.

Either way the replay between Town and Peake will mean Peake will be looking for a result for either the league outright or a playoff!

Hell, it could even be a three way tie at the top with all teams on 36 points!! What happens in that case?

[Roberto]

So judging by the current table, a win for Villa on Sunday guarantees them a playoff at least.
I can't see Clonmel Cetlic slipping up on Sunday, so 36 points is the target.
Michaels can still get to that amount if they win all their games, so anything but a win on Sunday means they are out of the reckoning.

Either way the replay between Town and Peake will mean Peake will be looking for a result for either the league outright or a playoff!

Hell, it could even be a three way tie at the top with all teams on 36 points!! What happens in that case?


If they all finish on 36 points (which is a possibility) I'd imagine there will be a 3 way play off. However if they are still level after a mini round robin I don't know what happens :confused:

[Tipp Top]

I understand its a delicate subject but all Villa players seem to be ashamed and apologetic for their team mates actions and thats to be applauded but does the clubs failure to punish the player send out a message that Peake Villa condone cheating,there is a hell of a lot of schoolboys in that club and i think Peake Villas silence on the matter speaks volumes? Surely the club needs to act in the interest of their own good name? Ron mentioned a goodwill gesture? maybe the club secretary might return the money he insisted on being refunded in the aftermath of the game :)

[Insidetherock]

I understand its a delicate subject but all Villa players seem to be ashamed and apologetic for their team mates actions and thats to be applauded but does the clubs failure to punish the player send out a message that Peake Villa condone cheating,there is a hell of a lot of schoolboys in that club and i think Peake Villas silence on the matter speaks volumes? Surely the club needs to act in the interest of their own good name? Ron mentioned a goodwill gesture? maybe the club secretary might return the money he insisted on being refunded in the aftermath of the game :)

Hold on a minute Tipp Top.. perhaps you could reconsider that post. No Peake Villa player cheated.

He may have been unsportsmanlike.. but there is a difference between that and cheating. I think you should edit your post to reflect this as it is an unwelcome and unecessary slur on Peake.

Also, they should not punish the player. How many clubs do you see punishing their own players for actually cheating ? How many are punished for diving ? For holding an attacking players jersey at a corner ? For encroaching at a free kick ?

All of the above are actual cheating ... playing to the whistle isn't.

[the 12 th man]

I think we've had enough debate on this for the moment,can we wait for the official outcome? as it's just going round in circles on this thread.

[ponyobrien]

Clonmel Celtic 3-1 Old Bridge. Bridge relegated.

Peake Villa 2-1 St. Michaels. So now that Villa v Town fixture will decide the league. Villa only need a draw. A town victory will leave a Celtic v Villa playoff.

[Insidetherock]

I see Town/Villa has been provisionally re-fixed for Sunday at 4 o clock

[saintsfan]

I have to second that, St Michaels would love to win the league this year but as of late, they havent been playing well.

[ronburgundy]

ya its funny how the league has become less important because they havent been good enough to win it.

[complexman]

As I said this isn’t the view shared by genuine Clonmel Town fans. The club has always taken the league very seriously. Our record speaks for itself. It is also true to say that every club would sacrifice a league title for an FAI or Munster. There are probably some people out there who believe the players will take it easy against Peake, I can't see that happening. They are an honest bunch of players and Town are a very dignified and honourable club

[the 12 th man]

ComeOnTownNow,I don't know whether you registered just to stir it up here but you won't last a wet day if that's the case.

What reaction did you expect posting that?-especially as a first post.

[ronburgundy]

I see Town/Villa has been provisionally re-fixed for Sunday at 4 o clock

why is this only a provisional fixture??

[Tipp Top]

why is this only a provisional fixture??

There is a meeting tonight over the incidents of the previous encounter so pending the verdict of the TSDL this fixture is provisional

[tipp man]

There is a meeting tonight over the incidents of the previous encounter so pending the verdict of the TSDL this fixture is provisional

Any word on last nights conclave of cardinals. White smoke? What penalties to be imposed on Peake and Clonmel?

[Damo]

Jesus lads, is there no humour left in the world???? Did ComeOnTownNow post something other than his joke about Town not caring about winning the league?

[Bin Ladin]

where is saints and celtic semi final on this weekend

[ComeOnTownNow]

aaron moroney got 3 games and smurf burns got 2 games starting from monday the 10th may, they will available for the peake game on sunday

[Tipp Top]

aaron moroney got 3 games and smurf burns got 2 games starting from monday the 10th may, they will available for the peake game on sunday

does moroney miss fai and munster or does this carry on to local games next season?

[ComeOnTownNow]

Town are trying to find out, rules are unclear, some joke if he does miss it, let u know as soon as i know

[ponyobrien]

does moroney miss fai and munster or does this carry on to local games next season?


I am fairly sure those games will only count in league and Tipp cup

[tipp man]

Any fines handed down???

[nononsense]

I am fairly sure those games will only count in league and Tipp cup

I don't think you are correct. The automatic suspension is served in the competition the sending off occurred e.g. if sent off in a Munster Junior Cup game the automatic suspension is served in the next Munster Junior Cup game if team still in the competition. The suspensions subsequently handed down by the governing body, (i.e. TSDL in this case), are served in whatever games are due to be played next. Therefore, the suspensions will involve F.A.I cup games and Munster Junior Cup games if they are due to be played in their next three competitive games. There is the right of appeal to Munster Football Association and F.A.i and the players can play while under appeal.

[ponyobrien]

I don't think you are correct. The automatic suspension is served in the competition the sending off occurred e.g. if sent off in a Munster Junior Cup game the automatic suspension is served in the next Munster Junior Cup game if team still in the competition. The suspensions subsequently handed down by the governing body, (i.e. TSDL in this case), are served in whatever games are due to be played next. Therefore, the suspensions will involve F.A.I cup games and Munster Junior Cup games if they are due to be played in their next three competitive games. There is the right of appeal to Munster Football Association and F.A.i and the players can play while under appeal.


Maybe I'm wrong, but when we had 3 players sent off against Peake Villa, we were told those games would only count in local competitions. Craig Condon got a 2 match ban but was available for an FAI game in that time.

[Insidetherock]

If the result was declared a "no match" .. how are they suspended at all ?

This was one of the things I was talking about during the week. Again, probably won't be thanked for this point of view, but I would have no sympathy at all for Aaron Moroney if he misses both the FAI Junior Cup game and the Munster Junior Cup game. Players need to learn that violent actions have consequences, and it might make him think a bit harder next time he decides to jump into a dangerous tackle. A player missing work (and possibly losing it altogether) is a lot worse than a player missing a few football matches.

That said, I hope Clonmel Town win the Munster Junior, and wish them and Michaels all the best in the FAI

[saintsfan]

where is saints and celtic semi final on this weekend
Saturday night, Cooke Park, Tipperary @ 7.30PM

[Quietman]

If the result was declared a "no match" .. how are they suspended at all ?

Firstly it was abandoned, "no match" would imply that it never took place. Are you implying that because the match was abandoned, that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions??......seriously??

[Bin Ladin]

how come its on in cooke park i thought semi finals are neutral venue is there reason for this

[Bin Ladin]

pony how come st michaels are getting home advantage against ye in tipp cup semi final

[saintsfan]

may be they tossed a coin for home or away, that is usually the agreement teams come to.

[Roberto]

may be they tossed a coin for home or away, that is usually the agreement teams come to.

I can assure you that no coin was tossed. Seemingly neutral venues for Tipperary Cup semi finals are not used any more, and I also know when this changed as Celtic have been in the Tipperary Cup semi final for the last 4 years. Last year they were away to Ballingarry, in 2008 at home to Town and in 2007 a neutral venue was used when Celtic played Rock Rovers in Cooke Park.

So obviously the TSDL changed policy in 2008 and I don't know why. Anyone any ideas? Much prefer if it was a neutral venue this year as it will be hard to Celtic to get a result up there.

[saintsfan]

that's me told!! Seriously though, the TSDL often change their minds about things so no surprises there. May be Saints were first out of the draw for the semi final - isn't that how CLonmel Town got home advantage ie, Cahir in fai semi (whenever that is played) - they were first out in the draw, may be that is how they are working it.

[Insidetherock]

Firstly it was abandoned, "no match" would imply that it never took place. Are you implying that because the match was abandoned, that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions??......seriously??

Not at all. I fully believe that they should be held accountable for their actions. But, in the case of an abandoned game, why is the game being started from scratch, and not from the point at which it was abandoned. Why basically, are Peake Villa being punished, unless it was ruled that they were responsible for the abandonment

[ronburgundy]

If the result was declared a "no match" .. how are they suspended at all ?

This was one of the things I was talking about during the week. Again, probably won't be thanked for this point of view, but I would have no sympathy at all for Aaron Moroney if he misses both the FAI Junior Cup game and the Munster Junior Cup game. Players need to learn that violent actions have consequences, and it might make him think a bit harder next time he decides to jump into a dangerous tackle. A player missing work (and possibly losing it altogether) is a lot worse than a player missing a few football matches.

That said, I hope Clonmel Town win the Munster Junior, and wish them and Michaels all the best in the FAI


seriously though a player must be punished even if the match is abandoned. otherwise whats to stop a team thats losing 3 nil at half time from starting a brawl in order to get the match replayed on another day?? by the way i heard that 2 peake players have also been suspended

[Roberto]

that's me told!! Seriously though, the TSDL often change their minds about things so no surprises there. May be Saints were first out of the draw for the semi final - isn't that how CLonmel Town got home advantage ie, Cahir in fai semi (whenever that is played) - they were first out in the draw, may be that is how they are working it.

Correct, Saints were first out of the hat as the draw was made on Tipp FM a few weeks ago. I'd be still interested in hearing the TSDL's reasoning for not using neutral venues for Tipperary Cup semi finals anymore.

[Roberto]

Not at all. I fully believe that they should be held accountable for their actions. But, in the case of an abandoned game, why is the game being started from scratch, and not from the point at which it was abandoned. Why basically, are Peake Villa being punished, unless it was ruled that they were responsible for the abandonment

Clonmel Town were similarly 'punished' in last year's Tipperary Cup final when the game was abandoned after 55 minutes with Celtic down to 10 men. In fairness to Town they never moaned about the fact that they had to play the full game again with Celtic restored to 11 players although the player that was sent off in the abandoned game was suspended for the final.

[saintsfan]

You are right, Roberto, neutral venues are the fairest, and as you say, Saints are hard to beat on their own patch, Saints will be up for it, cause silver ware is important to them this year as League is gone for them, Best of luck to both teams this Saturday night.

[bishbash]

Balingarry are drawn to be at home in the other semi but there pitch has been deemed unplayable and so it was switched to a neutral venue.

[ShaneM]

peake villa looking well for the league...come on the villa...

[kamikaze]

Balingarry are drawn to be at home in the other semi but there pitch has been deemed unplayable and so it was switched to a neutral venue. Where and what time is Balingarry and Rock fixed for?

[ponyobrien]

pony how come st michaels are getting home advantage against ye in tipp cup semi final

Cos they were out of the hat first

[balls]

saints are very difficult to beat in cooke pk, im gonna go for saint michaels 3-1, think rock rovers to edge out ballingarry 2-1.

[Quietman]

Not at all. I fully believe that they should be held accountable for their actions. But, in the case of an abandoned game, why is the game being started from scratch, and not from the point at which it was abandoned. Why basically, are Peake Villa being punished, unless it was ruled that they were responsible for the abandonment

The game was abandoned because of the behaviour of BOTH teams................simples!!:D

[balls]

i see the referees awards night are fixed for friday the 14th of may, anyone have any idea when the nominations are out for the player of the year in each divisions?

[saintsfan]

your posts are just hilarious!!!! Keep them coming. Town must be so proud to have a supporter like you.

[Quietman]

i see the referees awards night are fixed for friday the 14th of may, anyone have any idea when the nominations are out for the player of the year in each divisions?

Probably in next weeks papers........................... I see it's on in the Clonmel Park Hotel again. Great venue, made it a very good night last year!! Who would your nominations be for the respective divisions??

[Roberto]

Don't know what's going on at Town but I would imagine Muiris Walsh will be a big loss to the club following his resignation.

[balls]

premier id go with paul shanahan, jimmy carr, raymie condon as nominations in other divisions u prob just have to go with league winners getting player of the year so you would be talking about galbally, moyglass, cashel town b, cahir b all having players in the running, nominations should be in paper this week if its on next friday give people time to get sorted for it. ya it was very good last year in clonmel park hotel, alot better than 3 or 4 years ago when they had it in a pub in clonmel it was a terrible place for it

[complexman]

what?? when this did happen!! that can't be true- no way that man would walk away from Town, not in a million years

[Roberto]

what?? when this did happen!! that can't be true- no way that man would walk away from Town, not in a million years

Heard it from a VERY reliable source.