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Insidetherock
15/04/2010, 6:26 PM
Does that mean that as well as reading a lot of rubbish on here we would have to listen to it on the radio as well...........

Only if you plan on contributing Roberto, only if you plan on contributing :rolleyes:

balls
15/04/2010, 7:39 PM
inside the rock , just in relation to ur earlier post bout rumours with regards cashel players,what are the rumours? is it players leaving or what? also the bit about rosegreen not going up i reckon they have good chance of going up still if michaels (b) come 2nd rosegreen will be promoted to premier in 3rd. they prob dont even wanna go up to premier though, unless them and galbally vastly improve they will be serious whipping boys in premier division next year

nononsense
15/04/2010, 8:27 PM
inside the rock , just in relation to ur earlier post bout rumours with regards cashel players,what are the rumours? is it players leaving or what? also the bit about rosegreen not going up i reckon they have good chance of going up still if michaels (b) come 2nd rosegreen will be promoted to premier in 3rd. they prob dont even wanna go up to premier though, unless them and galbally vastly improve they will be serious whipping boys in premier division next year

If St.Michaels B finish runnersup the league could consider two options (1) Promote just one team to the Premier or (2) 3rd team goes up. Option (1) reduces the Premier to 8 teams. Is that a good thing? It would reduce the number of games from 16 to 14 and increase the quality of the premier league. Some teams, (most I think), in the 1st division have mixed feelings about promotion and are quite happy to stay put.

balls
15/04/2010, 9:02 PM
reducing the premier to 8 would not be an option most leagues around the country have minimum ten team premier i think , cork and limerick aul have 11 teams in there top division.reducing it to 8 would really increase the standard though thats clear to see, premier division is strong at the moment, town,saints,celtic,peake and cashel have very good teams, rock rovers and cahir on there day are decent too if a little inconsistent so you would be talking about having 7 competive teams in premier it would be up the 8th team then to raise there bar to compete. the league had this problem 2 years ago when town (B) finished 2nd and they promoted team who finished 3rd so cant really change rules this year, without objection.

most teams going up in recent years bar cashel this year go up with a defeatist attitude, they accept relegation even before season starts, i personally think with abit of commitment , training and staying in sat nights the likes of st.nicholas,bansha,rosegreen ,galbally, ballingarry could stay up if they put there mind to it. all these clubs have the players but they cant seem to get there best 11 out consistently over a season and would have major issues with regards training some id say not even training at all, just my opinion lads so no one jump down my throat. anyone else have opinion on it ?

complexman
16/04/2010, 9:18 AM
Does that mean that as well as reading a lot of rubbish on here we would have to listen to it on the radio as well...........;););)

Is that you are a Clonmel Celtic man the reason for your apathy towards a dedicated radio show or do you think Muiris is poor on the radio and due to the fact he is with Town means he must be rubbish?

Roberto
16/04/2010, 11:19 AM
Is that you are a Clonmel Celtic man the reason for your apathy towards a dedicated radio show or do you think Muiris is poor on the radio and due to the fact he is with Town means he must be rubbish?


Lighten up boy, you jumped to a lot of conclusions to a post that was submitted in jest. I have nothing at all against Town. I know Muiris quite well actually. I can't comment much on his performance on the radio as I don't listen that much.

ponyobrien
18/04/2010, 10:01 AM
Rock Rovers can't field a team so fixture gets moved to Tuesday. I simply can't understand how a club that enters an A and B team in the league cannot field a team. Maybe Carrick isn't big enough for 2 clubs.

complexman
19/04/2010, 8:17 AM
Exactly it was always other teams who reckoned they were treated badly when they played town(town usually won these games) now they are not going too well suddenly they think the refs are against them..they are just finished its the end of an era ..celtic are now the best team in clonmel and will prove it throughout the season ..charlie must be delighted he left at right time

"they are just finished, its the end of an era.. celtic are now the best team in clonmel"

Munster Junior Cup Finalists, Munster Youth Cup Finalists, FAI Junior Cup semi final- its the end alright

useless
19/04/2010, 11:23 AM
Rock Rovers can't field a team so fixture gets moved to Tuesday. I simply can't understand how a club that enters an A and B team in the league cannot field a team. Maybe Carrick isn't big enough for 2 clubs.

Please get your facts right before posting such nonsense.
Rock Rovers asked Tommy Lewis last Monday if they could switch this game to midweek as there was Confirmation taking place in Carrick over the weekend which several players had an involvement in.Tommy Lewis said there would be no problem changing the fixture once Clonmel Celtic and the referee agreed.
Rock Rovers rang Celtic and the Referee and both couldn't have been more helpful

ronburgundy
19/04/2010, 5:50 PM
i wonder what towns attitude towards their league games will be now?? they wont win it but will have a big say in who does. do they show their full hand against saints if they are to play them days later in an fai semi?? do they want to help bitter rivals claim the title and become top dog in clonmel by taking points from peake and saints?? im not suggesting anything and im sure town folk will be on to deny such conspiracies and claim that they are aiming to win the league but it will be an interesting few weeks............

bishbash
19/04/2010, 11:09 PM
i wonder what towns attitude towards their league games will be now?? they wont win it but will have a big say in who does. do they show their full hand against saints if they are to play them days later in an fai semi?? do they want to help bitter rivals claim the title and become top dog in clonmel by taking points from peake and saints?? im not suggesting anything and im sure town folk will be on to deny such conspiracies and claim that they are aiming to win the league but it will be an interesting few weeks............


Town are in a munster final and possibly an fai final so even if conmel celtic win both the league and cup you couldnt call them top dogs in clonmel. i'm a clonmel celtic supporter by the way.

Tipp Top
19/04/2010, 11:27 PM
Town are in a munster final and possibly an fai final so even if conmel celtic win both the league and cup you couldnt call them top dogs in clonmel. i'm a clonmel celtic supporter by the way.

jesus if Town win a Munster and Fai that will be an incredible achievement,i cant imagine any Tipperary team has ever achieved this feat? those players would go down in history,what an incentive,i really hope they do it and league wise it would be nice to see Celtic or Villa make the breakthrough,a lot of excitement ahead which is good for a change

ponyobrien
19/04/2010, 11:53 PM
Please get your facts right before posting such nonsense.
Rock Rovers asked Tommy Lewis last Monday if they could switch this game to midweek as there was Confirmation taking place in Carrick over the weekend which several players had an involvement in.Tommy Lewis said there would be no problem changing the fixture once Clonmel Celtic and the referee agreed.
Rock Rovers rang Celtic and the Referee and both couldn't have been more helpful

Open your eyes. What you say doesn't condradict my post. The fixture was moved because Rock couldn't field a team.

Roberto
20/04/2010, 8:31 AM
i wonder what towns attitude towards their league games will be now?? they wont win it but will have a big say in who does. do they show their full hand against saints if they are to play them days later in an fai semi?? do they want to help bitter rivals claim the title and become top dog in clonmel by taking points from peake and saints?? im not suggesting anything and im sure town folk will be on to deny such conspiracies and claim that they are aiming to win the league but it will be an interesting few weeks............

'Bitter rivals' is a bit strong to describe Town's feeling about Celtic. There's been some full blooded derbies in recent seasons between the teams but I also feel there is a mutual respect there. The Celtic boys love Town and hope they win every game between now and the end of the season :love2:

Quietman
20/04/2010, 8:43 AM
'Bitter rivals' is a bit strong to describe Town's feeling about Celtic. There's been some full blooded derbies in recent seasons between the teams but I also feel there is a mutual respect there. The Celtic boys love Town and hope they win every game between now and the end of the season :love2:

LOL .......................funny man Roberto!! You sure know how to stir it............

Damo
20/04/2010, 9:19 AM
It will be a very interesting few weeks indeed. Any word on the other Munster Junior semi yet? Any Carrick people on here heard anything?

complexman
20/04/2010, 9:49 AM
LOL .......................funny man Roberto!! You sure know how to stir it............

On a serious note, Clonmel Town are a club of the highest integrity and I don't think they would throw any match. Who they would like to see winning the league is a sperate debate but I honestly believe they would do the "right" thing and I think it is unfair to suggest otherwise.

That said Celtic went to Cooke Park at the end of last season and lost 6 nil and still won Tipp Cup, they weren't to concerned about who won league

Roberto
20/04/2010, 10:56 AM
On a serious note, Clonmel Town are a club of the highest integrity and I don't think they would throw any match. Who they would like to see winning the league is a sperate debate but I honestly believe they would do the "right" thing and I think it is unfair to suggest otherwise.

That said Celtic went to Cooke Park at the end of last season and lost 6 nil and still won Tipp Cup, they weren't to concerned about who won league

Can you kindly explain what you mean by your statement regarding Celtic's loss to St Michaels. Unless you can I can only assume you are making a serious sneaky accusation about Celtic throwing a game. Away from soccer forums comments like that could land you in court. And of course it would help if you got your facts right:

1) The game was played on 4th January 2009 and 'not at the end of last season',

2) When the game was played Celtic still had an outside change in the league so to say 'they weren't too concerned about who won the league' is wrong.

3) I was at that game and can assure you an understrength Celtic team gave it their all.

Your snide comment is way out of order and if you had any decency you would withdraw it. If you made a comment like that on the radio show you crave for you would end up in court.

complexman
20/04/2010, 11:09 AM
Relax man. All I am saying is that there is a suggestion here that Clonmel Town may play a weakened side to prevent Celtic from winning the league, which I think is wrong. My point is that last season Celtic lost 6 nil to Michael’s. That is a fact.My apologies for suggesting that it was near the end of the season.However They weren’t too bothered about who won the league.
If I have offended anyone, well I am sorry but I also think your court quip is over the top. Stop being so sensitive.

hooper74
20/04/2010, 11:25 AM
I doubt Clonmel Town are fully ruling themselves out of the title race,especially if Celtic drop points tonight

Quietman
20/04/2010, 11:38 AM
Relax man. All I am saying is that there is a suggestion here that Clonmel Town may play a weakened side to prevent Celtic from winning the league

I'll have to have a look back over tha last few posts 'cos I missed that "suggestion"



Stop being so sensitive.

Pot and kettle come to mind!!:p

Damo
20/04/2010, 11:39 AM
Can you kindly explain what you mean by your statement regarding Celtic's loss to St Michaels. Unless you can I can only assume you are making a serious sneaky accusation about Celtic throwing a game. Away from soccer forums comments like that could land you in court. And of course it would help if you got your facts right:

1) The game was played on 4th January 2009 and 'not at the end of last season',

2) When the game was played Celtic still had an outside change in the league so to say 'they weren't too concerned about who won the league' is wrong.

3) I was at that game and can assure you an understrength Celtic team gave it their all.

Your snide comment is way out of order and if you had any decency you would withdraw it. If you made a comment like that on the radio show you crave for you would end up in court.

Jaysus, one off the cuff comment and you're accusing people of libel! Grow up.

Roberto
20/04/2010, 11:46 AM
Relax man. All I am saying is that there is a suggestion here that Clonmel Town may play a weakened side to prevent Celtic from winning the league, which I think is wrong. My point is that last season Celtic lost 6 nil to Michael’s. That is a fact.My apologies for suggesting that it was near the end of the season.However They weren’t too bothered about who won the league.
If I have offended anyone, well I am sorry but I also think your court quip is over the top. Stop being so sensitive.


If you didn't post such ridiculous statements I wouldn't need to be sensitive. You talk about the integrity of Clonmel Town and then you suggest this concept is missing when it comes to Clonmel Celtic and you make reference to their loss in Tipperary last season. Once again I repeat you were wrong when you state 'they weren't too bothered who won the league'. Why do you mention Celtic's loss to St Michaels? What was the significance of your statement. You tried to insinuate that Celtic weren't bothered and you were wrong.

In the 2006/07 season Town finished 1 point ahead of St Michaels and in the run in to that season Celtic beat St Michaels 3-1. If they had not won that game St Michaels would have won the league.

You should give serious throught to what you post before you press the button 'submit reply'.

You made a serious accusation and you are trying to brush it off by saying I am too sensitive. The decent thing to do would be to withdraw statement and say you were wrong.

Roberto
20/04/2010, 11:50 AM
Jaysus, one off the cuff comment and you're accusing people of libel! Grow up.

So you don't have any issue with clubs being accused of throwing games?

Roberto
20/04/2010, 11:54 AM
Jaysus, one off the cuff comment and you're accusing people of libel! Grow up.

You mention the word libel which in these circumstances means 'a false statement that could damage a club's reputation'. Niow go back and read the orignal post and then engage your brain.

the 12 th man
20/04/2010, 12:05 PM
Lad,cool the heels,leave out the personal stuff.

complexman
20/04/2010, 12:09 PM
If you didn't post such ridiculous statements I wouldn't need to be sensitive. You talk about the integrity of Clonmel Town and then you suggest this concept is missing when it comes to Clonmel Celtic and you make reference to their loss in Tipperary last season. Once again I repeat you were wrong when you state 'they weren't too bothered who won the league'. Why do you mention Celtic's loss to St Michaels? What was the significance of your statement. You tried to insinuate that Celtic weren't bothered and you were wrong.

In the 2006/07 season Town finished 1 point ahead of St Michaels and in the run in to that season Celtic beat St Michaels 3-1. If they had not won that game St Michaels would have won the league.

You should give serious throught to what you post before you press the button 'submit reply'.

You made a serious accusation and you are trying to brush it off by saying I am too sensitive. The decent thing to do would be to withdraw statement and say you were wrong.

ok I apologise- I was wrong

Roberto
20/04/2010, 12:30 PM
ok I apologise- I was wrong

No prob, apology accepted. Maybe my reaction was a bit OTT. Actually I do hope Town win both Munster and FAI, and that from a Celtic fan!

Quietman
20/04/2010, 2:08 PM
No prob, apology accepted. Maybe my reaction was a bit OTT. Actually I do hope Town win both Munster and FAI, and that from a Celtic fan!

Roberto Are you upset?? ;)

Only kidding obviously.........Sometimes the remarks made on this forum leave alot to be desired....Think before you post is the message everyone must learn!!

Damo
20/04/2010, 3:11 PM
So you don't have any issue with clubs being accused of throwing games?


You mention the word libel which in these circumstances means 'a false statement that could damage a club's reputation'. Niow go back and read the orignal post and then engage your brain.

Roberto, I understand perfectly what the definition of the word libel is and I think you are over engaging your own brain, and maybe you should read back over the last page or so. The sensitivity displayed is one of the reasons non users of foot.ie criticise it so much. People are only thinking aloud sometimes when they post on here. This doesn't mean that every thought or notion should be sanctimoniously ceased on and used against the poster. I'm not a Celtic supporter but I didn't take any inference from any comment that Celtic would ever 'throw' a game. And, for the record, I don't believe such a fine club would either.

ronburgundy
20/04/2010, 3:12 PM
[QUOTE=Tipp Top;1349001]jesus if Town win a Munster and Fai that will be an incredible achievement,i cant imagine any Tipperary team has ever achieved this feat? those players would go down in history


dont worry, they wont............

Tipp Top
20/04/2010, 3:35 PM
[QUOTE=Tipp Top;1349001]jesus if Town win a Munster and Fai that will be an incredible achievement,i cant imagine any Tipperary team has ever achieved this feat? those players would go down in history


dont worry, they wont............

why so against Town Ron,surely Villa have no problem with Town or is it just you dont think they are good enough?

balls
20/04/2010, 7:50 PM
going by tsdl website just updated there
celtic 1-0 rovers

very good result for celtic, hope they can beat saints now and win the league

ponyobrien
20/04/2010, 8:19 PM
I was 1-0, a Craig Condon header gave Celtic the win

Roberto
21/04/2010, 8:09 AM
Roberto, I understand perfectly what the definition of the word libel is and I think you are over engaging your own brain, and maybe you should read back over the last page or so. The sensitivity displayed is one of the reasons non users of foot.ie criticise it so much. People are only thinking aloud sometimes when they post on here. This doesn't mean that every thought or notion should be sanctimoniously ceased on and used against the poster. I'm not a Celtic supporter but I didn't take any inference from any comment that Celtic would ever 'throw' a game. And, for the record, I don't believe such a fine club would either.


Damo, I take your point. However some people on here think that because it is an anonymous forum they can say what they want. I think that people who make erroneous or vexatious statements should be challenged, otherwise the quality of this forum will never be improved.

Damo
21/04/2010, 10:10 AM
Damo, I take your point. However some people on here think that because it is an anonymous forum they can say what they want. I think that people who make erroneous or vexatious statements should be challenged, otherwise the quality of this forum will never be improved.

That's the last word to you, Roberto - well put and well said :good:

ronburgundy
21/04/2010, 2:39 PM
[QUOTE=ronburgundy;1349277]

why so against Town Ron,surely Villa have no problem with Town or is it just you dont think they are good enough?


def no problem between villa and town. town are a great club and my money would be on them winning 1 of the big competitions, just dont think they are good enough to win 2. however i wish the players all the best and would be happy to be proved wrong. would be great for all the players and for the many genuine people involved

Damo
21/04/2010, 5:01 PM
[QUOTE=Tipp Top;1349281]


def no problem between villa and town. town are a great club and my money would be on them winning 1 of the big competitions, just dont think they are good enough to win 2. however i wish the players all the best and would be happy to be proved wrong. would be great for all the players and for the many genuine people involved

I would have to disagree with you there, Ron. I don't think there is any doubt that Clonmel Town are good enough to win both.

orchardfester
21/04/2010, 9:32 PM
Sorry Guys, But from what i've seen lately from town their a good team but not good enough to win both. I think that Carrick will win the Munster. It will be close but they will just shade it.

Town Fan
22/04/2010, 8:53 AM
Sorry Guys, But from what i've seen lately from town their a good team but not good enough to win both. I think that Carrick will win the Munster. It will be close but they will just shade it.

I don't think Town are world beaters and certainly not the best Town side of all time. That said, they are very hard to beat. the defence is excellent but with Raymie probably gone for the season they won't be as strong in that department. Mind you Stephen Ryan was superb last Sunday.
Any word on any of the appeals in FAI and Munster?

ronburgundy
22/04/2010, 1:48 PM
I don't think Town are world beaters and certainly not the best Town side of all time. That said, they are very hard to beat. the defence is excellent but with Raymie probably gone for the season they won't be as strong in that department. Mind you Stephen Ryan was superb last Sunday.
Any word on any of the appeals in FAI and Munster?

ya i think they could do with more firepower. problem is that there is not much around the league, maybe with saints but players dont tend to move between those clubs . young fella that came on up front last week that is still youths ( i think ) could be the answer, asking a lot for him to do the business in the big games straight away though. think they could do with a quick and aggressive left sided player

Tipp Top
22/04/2010, 3:13 PM
ya i think they could do with more firepower. problem is that there is not much around the league, maybe with saints but players dont tend to move between those clubs . young fella that came on up front last week that is still youths ( i think ) could be the answer, asking a lot for him to do the business in the big games straight away though. think they could do with a quick and aggressive left sided player

Ha Ha i wonder are you a left sided quick and aggressive player,you will get your chance to impress Tuesday night :) and im sure Barry Ryan will be looking to answer your firepower remark,he has done well for Town in his first season to be at top of goal charts with Scully on their website after missing 3 or 4 months of the season,i have a niggling doubt that Town wont be full strength Tuesday,not trying to stir up more conspiracy theories just think their focus is elsewhere

complexman
22/04/2010, 3:28 PM
I don't think Town are world beaters and certainly not the best Town side of all time. That said, they are very hard to beat. the defence is excellent but with Raymie probably gone for the season they won't be as strong in that department. Mind you Stephen Ryan was superb last Sunday.
Any word on any of the appeals in FAI and Munster?

Is Raymie out for the season? Thats a disaster

Tipp Top
22/04/2010, 3:32 PM
Is Raymie out for the season? Thats a disaster

he broke his nose against Celtic,surely a broken nose wont keep him out,hes had a great season and would be a big loss

ronburgundy
22/04/2010, 3:34 PM
Ha Ha i wonder are you a left sided quick and aggressive player,you will get your chance to impress Tuesday night :) and im sure Barry Ryan will be looking to answer your firepower remark,he has done well for Town in his first season to be at top of goal charts with Scully on their website after missing 3 or 4 months of the season,i have a niggling doubt that Town wont be full strength Tuesday,not trying to stir up more conspiracy theories just think their focus is elsewhere

what? i thought we left all that nonsense behind a long time ago??? ah well if town arent at full strength he might get a chance so

Tipp Top
22/04/2010, 3:36 PM
what? i thought we left all that nonsense behind a long time ago??? ah well if town arent at full strength he might get a chance so

ha ha good to see that little rivalry alive and well,i will be keeping an eye on that Tuesday night,did he not start the Munster semi final?

hooper74
22/04/2010, 3:48 PM
ha ha good to see that little rivalry alive and well,i will be keeping an eye on that Tuesday night,did he not start the Munster semi final?

grow up lads,ron i dont think your team mates will be thanking you for the abuse you give them on this or stirring anything up before a game,im sure Town will be full strength Tuesday night,they dont tend to lose too many games at home and momentum is massive at this time of the year

Tipp Top
22/04/2010, 4:11 PM
grow up lads,ron i dont think your team mates will be thanking you for the abuse you give them on this or stirring anything up before a game,im sure Town will be full strength Tuesday night,they dont tend to lose too many games at home and momentum is massive at this time of the year

Just a bit of banter,chill out

ponyobrien
22/04/2010, 5:12 PM
he broke his nose against Celtic,surely a broken nose wont keep him out,hes had a great season and would be a big loss

Nose, eyesocket and cheekbone

Tipp Top
22/04/2010, 5:16 PM
Nose, eyesocket and cheekbone

oh jesus,he is definitely out for the season if thats true,are you sure? he was togged out in the Munster semi final Sunday as a sub?