Tipp South & District League 2009/10 [Archive] - Page 12

ronburgundy

01/12/2009, 12:41 PM

well if that is true, it is scandalous. How can other clubs come up with anything when town and saints always have the final say. It is impossible to get a fair deal, I cant see it changing and that is why all other clubs in the league love to see the big 2 beaten. Unfortunately not for football reasons

Mega Tots

01/12/2009, 12:48 PM

like i said its a direct quote from the man himself,its absolutely scandalous the influence he has,saints were suppose to play villa in the tipp cup a couple of weeks ago but both breens had a club football match so he called lewis and arranged a change of fixture,what hope have the rest of us,saints will play villa and celtic in the league at a suitable time,when maybe villa are on the back of a bad result or have some injuries or suspensions,we are all fighting a losing battle

complexman

01/12/2009, 12:56 PM

this has been goin on for years,but i remember a player in my club at the time ,a few years back, getting 5 years for kicking someone on the ground , yet the very same day paul scully did the same thing to a saints player, only got a token suspension which was held up so he could play for the irish juniors in isle of man !!!!

That is wrong- Paul Scully never played for Ireland- and who did he "kick on the ground"

I don't believe for a second that town influence Tommy Lewis- where is the evidence- this is a load of ******** talk

Mega Tots

01/12/2009, 1:03 PM

do you believe chalky influences lewis? and neither i nor ron mentioned paul scully

complexman

01/12/2009, 1:04 PM

do you believe chalky influences lewis?
Maybe, I doubt it, however there is a better of chance than that happening given Lewis is a Michaels man. I don't on the other hand believe Clonmel Town have any influence- who in Town would

complexman

01/12/2009, 1:08 PM

Maybe, I doubt it, however there is a better of chance than that happening given Lewis is a Michaels man. I don't on the other hand believe Clonmel Town have any influence- who in Town would
Proof of this-just look at the amount of fixtures Town had at the end of last season- it was crazy- if they had any influence this wouldn't haven't happened- I am sorry but I am not having any of that:mad:

Mega Tots

01/12/2009, 1:08 PM

Town Fan

01/12/2009, 1:15 PM

i dont believe town have an influence over the league,the fixtures lewis threw at them last season proved that,that would never have happened to saints,i believe town intimidate refs though,its wrong for lewis as a saints man to run the league,it needs to be a neutral

True- but I heard from sources inside Town that basically Muiris Walsh runs that club- he hired Mckeever- he then hired Martin Quinlivan- he got Noel Byrne etc. he has a club shop running in Town over the last month, which took in thousands
He also went to the TSDL AGM and tore strips of Lewis over the fixtures. As a result Lewis has become very friendly with him and asked him numerous times to join TSDL.
Be in no doubt- Muiris Walsh is a powerful man inside Clonmel Town and has influence in the TSDL. He has Lewis's ear. He is a powerful figure in Tipp soccer
I don't have a problem with this- we need people like him

Mega Tots

01/12/2009, 1:20 PM

at least Muiris is a man of integrity and a proper football man who genuinely loves his club but respects opponents,he is a man i would have a lot of respect for

complexman

01/12/2009, 1:26 PM

at least Muiris is a man of integrity and a proper football man who genuinely loves his club but respects opponents,he is a man i would have a lot of respect for

Absolutely- on that we can all agree- yes Muiris is a powerful man- but as mega tots says- he is a man of integrity- I have never heard anyone say a bad word about him except town Fan!! who has now changed his tune!!- Muiris is a good guy

tipp man

01/12/2009, 1:36 PM

I was at the Junior International against the Isle of Man and Paul Scully wasn't playing; how could he? He is ex-League of Ireland.

This thread has become inane and nonsense and should be closed by a moderator. Stupid stuff.

Mega Tots

01/12/2009, 1:38 PM

that was one post that was cleared up by the rest of us that paul was not involved so that has zilch to do with what were talking about

complexman

01/12/2009, 1:51 PM

that was one post that was cleared up by the rest of us that paul was not involved so that has zilch to do with what were talking about

I agree- back to important matters- how come MJC Tie between Town and Bridge is not on this Sunday?

Mega Tots

01/12/2009, 2:02 PM

just looked at the website,its FAI weekend why are town playing tipp cup game?

ponyobrien

01/12/2009, 5:31 PM

He also went to the TSDL AGM and tore strips of Lewis over the fixtures.

In actual fact, Tommy Lewis put him in his place. He seemed to be prepared for that topic. When Muiris made his complaint about fixture congestion, Tommy was able to state how many weekends were booked off and how many off due to bereavement. He went on to talk about how many weekends were lost on the Munster senior cup, and how he will look to have junior teams removed from that competition from season 2010/11, despite it being his proposal the first got junior clubs involved. Also if fixtures had been spread out to suit Town then some teams wouldn't have had a fixture for up to a month, and thats hardly fair either.....

Muiris was left speechless

ronburgundy

01/12/2009, 6:20 PM

In actual fact, Tommy Lewis put him in his place. He seemed to be prepared for that topic. When Muiris made his complaint about fixture congestion, Tommy was able to state how many weekends were booked off and how many off due to bereavement. He went on to talk about how many weekends were lost on the Munster senior cup, and how he will look to have junior teams removed from that competition from season 2010/11, despite it being his proposal the first got junior clubs involved. Also if fixtures had been spread out to suit Town then some teams wouldn't have had a fixture for up to a month, and thats hardly fair either.....

Muiris was left speechless

wel see how quickly tommy changes his mind about the munster senior cup if saints win the league. I dont think he would mind the fixture congestion if he could get cork city playing in cooke park. I think he will try to pull out if town were set to host a big club or god forbid, celtic or peake

complexman

02/12/2009, 8:17 AM

In actual fact, Tommy Lewis put him in his place. He seemed to be prepared for that topic. When Muiris made his complaint about fixture congestion, Tommy was able to state how many weekends were booked off and how many off due to bereavement. He went on to talk about how many weekends were lost on the Munster senior cup, and how he will look to have junior teams removed from that competition from season 2010/11, despite it being his proposal the first got junior clubs involved. Also if fixtures had been spread out to suit Town then some teams wouldn't have had a fixture for up to a month, and thats hardly fair either.....

Muiris was left speechless

Well at least Muiris had the courage to tackle Lewis on it. From what I hear Muiris made his point allowed Lewis to speak and left it at that. I suspect from your tone that you don't like Muiris or Clonmel Town- thats fair enough

GreenLane08

02/12/2009, 8:48 AM

I agree- back to important matters- how come MJC Tie between Town and Bridge is not on this Sunday?

Why do you want the MJC Cup game against Bridge on this Sunday? They have until the 24th Jan to play this game. Why aren't Town playing their FAI game this weekend like everyone else?? Are they missing players or something? The FAI has always taken priority over the Tipp Cup I don't get this.
The Town game vs Bridge is down to be on in nxt wkend ( prov) I don't get this either if Town aren't playing theri FAI Cup game this weekend or next weekend what's going on??

GreenLane08

02/12/2009, 8:53 AM

Town and Michaels do have influeneces over the league and do play when they feel like it and when they have full teams available. Last year Bridge and Town were down to play and Town cancelled the game as certian players were gone to the Ireland rugby game in Dublin.
When was the last time anyone has seen Town without nearly a full strength team?
If they are missing any of their main players the game gets called off cause they have no good players from the B team to bring in.
Just to add Muiris Walsh is an excelent man and is a true football fan get off his case. Any club would give anytin to have a man with his dedication and commitment to drive the club forward.

Town Fan

02/12/2009, 8:58 AM

Why do you want the MJC Cup game against Bridge on this Sunday? They have until the 24th Jan to play this game. Why aren't Town playing their FAI game this weekend like everyone else?? Are they missing players or something? The FAI has always taken priority over the Tipp Cup I don't get this.
The Town game vs Bridge is down to be on in nxt wkend ( prov) I don't get this either if Town aren't playing theri FAI Cup game this weekend or next weekend what's going on??

I think to be fair, Thurles Town and Valley Rovers have to play next Sunday. the following sunday then is Oscar Traynor. I can't comment on Town having influence but i would point to their fixtures at the end of last season. I have seen Town play with understrength sides

ponyobrien

02/12/2009, 12:21 PM

Well at least Muiris had the courage to tackle Lewis on it. From what I hear Muiris made his point allowed Lewis to speak and left it at that. I suspect from your tone that you don't like Muiris or Clonmel Town- thats fair enough

Don't get me wrong, its not an anti-town comment, and I have a great time for Muiris, he is a football man. I just wanted to set the story straight. I am in full agreement with the arguement about Tommy Lewis being at St. Michaels man, far to much favouritism for me.

bishbash

02/12/2009, 1:03 PM

With regards to Towns fixture pile up I think that they were just victims of their own success. in years gone by at that latter stages of the season there are normally a number of walkovers given and last year it didnt turn out like that. I think each club is as important as the next regardless of size or success. Some of the smaller clubs or ruaral ones always suffer because of gaa or small numbers and by the time the end of the season comes around these teams have nothing to play for and as is the case every year they find it hard to field teams. I think the whole fixture list needs to be looked at. there are a number of fixtures scheduled at the start of each season and it is widely accepted that this is to accomadate st michaels or clonmel town with their expected runs in the fai and munster junior. Maybe this can still be done but allow the smaller clubs stay with the sunday fixture only. this way it gives teams more to play for longer into the season. Fixtures should be done fairly with everyones benefit looked after as much as is possible. On a side note I think most clubs would love to have that type of fixture congestion.

Mega Tots

02/12/2009, 4:06 PM

its a tricky one as other teams should not have to go weeks without a fixture but surely if for example town had a chance of bringing the fai junior cup to tipperary the league should have weighed in behind them as opposed to hammering them,if for example it was saints as ron pointed out there is no doubt mr lewis would have done everything to help them,but town get plenty of favours too in other ways but undoubtedly everything is in place for saints to be successful,they run the league,celtic and villa cannot even get a fair refereeing display,it will be a long long time before villa,celtic or anyone take the title away from town or saints

daz22

02/12/2009, 5:08 PM

lads from an outsider point of view clonmel town do not really get favours, they had to play a game every 3,4 days at end of last season,am i correct??rarely get a weekend off?just a little thing but lewis tried refix a MJC youths game for a home venue after home team called game off week before. am i correct in saying home team loses home advantage after cancelling game??Lad from clonmel on radio promotes your league brilliantly , get behind him as i wish we had a footballing man like that on the radio promoting our league, which badly needs it fairly.

Mega Tots

02/12/2009, 5:15 PM

no you lose home advantage,you get one chance to play a cup game at home and if for any reason you have to cancel you forfeit home advantage,not even tommy lewis can change that

stevie11

02/12/2009, 6:33 PM

Iv heard that there is talks of having matchesn on de 27th of Dec,obviously de day after Stevens Day,can anybody shed any light on this,any truth in it???

likealion

03/12/2009, 7:56 AM

Iv heard that there is talks of having matchesn on de 27th of Dec,obviously de day after Stevens Day,can anybody shed any light on this,any truth in it???

Ah I'd say there always certainly be games yeah

Insidetherock

03/12/2009, 12:32 PM

Ah I'd say there always certainly be games yeah

I've heard from a little birdie, that there will be NO games scheduled for either the 20th or the 27th

Mega Tots

03/12/2009, 3:33 PM

no prizes for guessing where that info came from:)

Insidetherock

03/12/2009, 3:43 PM

no prizes for guessing where that info came from:)

Pm me and I'll tell you

ronburgundy

03/12/2009, 7:54 PM

Apart from those who have already been capped, do you think there are any players in our league with the potential and ability to make the step up and be a junior international?

collegeroad

08/12/2009, 8:06 AM

I've heard from a little birdie, that there will be NO games scheduled for either the 20th or the 27th

ITR, your little birdie seems to be telling lies. Majority of premier teams down to play on 20th.

Insidetherock

08/12/2009, 10:17 AM

ITR, your little birdie seems to be telling lies. Majority of premier teams down to play on 20th.

Correct college, probably should have posted it earlier, but a full program of games will also be played on the 27 as well. Quiet Stephens day for a lot of players I think

Soccer Man

08/12/2009, 10:55 AM

was anyone at st michaels game on sunday , was paul breen luckly to say on the pitch

CashelMan

08/12/2009, 2:27 PM

Correct college, probably should have posted it earlier, but a full program of games will also be played on the 27 as well. Quiet Stephens day for a lot of players I think

does anyone else think thats kind of stupid having games on the day after stevens day.the whole of ireland goes out that night.i dont think its going to stop many players from going out.and from talking to the cashel town lads there all gonna go out and id say it will be for most of the teams.i think a mid week game would suit everyone.seen as its the festive season 90 percent of the people will be off.i think its something the tsdl should look at.

DrRobert

08/12/2009, 2:33 PM

Pearoso27

09/12/2009, 8:44 AM

paul breen was not lucky to stay on the pitch.eveyone knows he's fully committed to everything he does,including tackles.it wasnt as bad as people are making out to be.
it was a very tough game for us and cahir showed alot of heart but our experience shone threw.i feel this micheals team is one of the best in a long time and with chalky helping along the younger lads the future is looking bright.i think we need to strenthen up a few places.but we're nearly there
Careful mentioning the Chalky word here, theres a few people with daggers out for him on this site. At one stage i thought he was after killing Santa with all the abuse he was getting but it turns out all he did was talk to Tommy Lewis and play for Saints! "down with that sort of thing, Careful now"
If Breeno was sent off the Cahir No.10 would have had to go also so its swings and roundabouts! I believe he was in an accident last night but came out of it unharmed thank God.

ShaneM

10/12/2009, 8:30 AM

ya id agree wit cashel man.....tsdl should bring that into consideration....

Insidetherock

10/12/2009, 12:36 PM

does anyone else think thats kind of stupid having games on the day after stevens day.the whole of ireland goes out that night.i dont think its going to stop many players from going out.and from talking to the cashel town lads there all gonna go out and id say it will be for most of the teams.i think a mid week game would suit everyone.seen as its the festive season 90 percent of the people will be off.i think its something the tsdl should look at.

That's hardly a great attitude now CM is it. I know that players would be disappointed with the leagues decision, and I wouldn't agree with it myself, but those are the rules of the league, and you have to play the hand you're dealt. Would it be so hard do you think for players to go a bit easier on the sauce on Stephens night, and then go out and have a good evening for themselves after the game on Sunday ?

Might even be a good opportunity for the club to pick up a very valuable 3 points and ensure Premier football next season. Do you think that would be worth one night taking it easy ?

CashelMan

10/12/2009, 2:43 PM

That's hardly a great attitude now CM is it. I know that players would be disappointed with the leagues decision, and I wouldn't agree with it myself, but those are the rules of the league, and you have to play the hand you're dealt. Would it be so hard do you think for players to go a bit easier on the sauce on Stephens night, and then go out and have a good evening for themselves after the game on Sunday ?

Might even be a good opportunity for the club to pick up a very valuable 3 points and ensure Premier football next season. Do you think that would be worth one night taking it easy ?

id agree with you but i dont play myself and i know if i did play i wouldnt be happy.alot of family members come home that you might not have seen in a long time.and maybe they have only a few days at home.thats just one scenario.there are plenty more.i just think its a bad time to have it thats all.i think a mid week game would suit alot more people..

as for the cashel players i dont think alot of them care anymore after the way they were left behind and made to pick up the pieces themselves.they would like to be in the permier next year and i have no doubt that they will but this season has been an anti-climax if you ask me.and its gone stale.something needs to be done to get the club back to where it should be..a new manager? someone from outside the club who doesnt know anyone and who doesnt have his favourites.

Mega Tots

10/12/2009, 3:49 PM

players left behind to pick up the pieces? the players...and you being one of them got rid of the manager who won back to back promotions and clearly have no dedication as taking it easy for one night over xmas is too much to ask,if as a club you want to be a saint michaels,clonmel town or peake villa the players must make sacrifices,all the talk when cashel came up was what they were going to do in the premier,you have been on the receiving end of some hammerings and internal squabbles has been the response,why not get your heads down and together as a unit put it right,starting by having a few quiet drinks together stephens night and then make up for it with a bang when 3 points are in the bag the next day

bishbash

10/12/2009, 4:24 PM

games the day after st stephens day is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. are people really trying so tell me that there are not enough weekends in the season to get games played. all this talk about dedication is rubbish. its an amateur league and christmas is a time when people switch off and relax and have a few drinks. its hardly a lack of interest if teams look for the the after stephens day off its one of the main socialising nights of the year.

daz22

10/12/2009, 4:48 PM

lads thank god we have no games in the north on the 27th. It is crazy and i know teams will struggle for teams on that date. There has to be common sense brought into this and just have no games. Dedication to your football comes after your family and for one weekend in the year, family has to be put first. Plus another point is the safety issue of lads turning up a bit worse for wear, i know this can happen any weekend but probably a few more than usually will be like this which would put alot of players and officials at risk!!what ye think??Isnt it easy for the men who put out the fixtures to be out celebrating as they do not have to go play or look after teams?????

Mega Tots

10/12/2009, 5:15 PM

bishbash

10/12/2009, 5:38 PM

agreed completely about the amount of weekends available and there should be no need for fixures on the 27th,however if there are games then just because its junior football you do not need to have a junior attitude,players who are working flat out to win an fai,munster,league or tipp cup will not sacrifice that by getting hammered that night,there are loads of nights out over xmas,but please do not take me up wrong,there is no need for fixtures the 27th
This is my point its got nothing to do with any type of attitude its the fact that its a time of year when people should be allowed to enjoy themselves and recharge. its the attitude of the league that is all wrong. its a family and friends time of year that is what should take priority over anything else. all it does is devalue the league competition itself from all aspects. you cannot run an amateur competition on a professional basis. if this is what the league wants to do then all clubs should get floodlights and mid week games should be played regardless of anyones work committments. Its arragonce on behalf of the peolpe who run the league and a complete lack of common sense.

ShaneM

10/12/2009, 8:04 PM

agreed....its rediculous

[MOD EDIT: No, it's rIdiculous. And if you don't knock the txt spk on the head, you're basically going to get 0 posts published.]

West Hammer

10/12/2009, 9:07 PM

We are giving out about The League, but the league committee only has 5 members when it should have 9. Of the 5 only 1 man made the decision to play on 27th and he is a tee total. It is easy to slag off Lewis but when he steps down the League will have no one to fill his boots. He may be set in his ways but when he and Richard Power took over the league it was in a right state. May be him being so unforgiving in his reading of the rules leaves some clubs feeling hard done by, I bet there are not to many out there willing to take on the work load needed to keep a league running smoothly. I have had many run-ins with him over the years but at the end of the day who else is willing to stand up and do the job. Oh and by the way playing on the 27th will be a headache all clubs could have done with out, if he had to have an extra day I would have gone for Thursday 28th.

Tipp Top

11/12/2009, 10:38 AM

Surely playing the games on st stephens day would have made alot more sense and then everyone could go out that night and enjoy a few drinks. Im sure the refs would be in favour of this as its as bad for them to be running around as the players. I do believe that any player who takes his football seriously will go out stephens night and just drink minerals and will be in perfect shape to play a game the next day.