Tipp South & District League 2009/10

[West Hammer]

As we are talking about Managers leaving. I hear Clonmel Town B failed to field a team last Sunday as the manager has just walked away. Club asked for time from Tommy Lewis to sort things out, of coarse he said no. Are my facts right or wrong! Maybe FREDDY can tell us what happened.

[maxwellsmart]

Well if its disrespectful i appologise But my point is that a team that are ment to be competing to win The TSDL (which is a superior league to NTDL) should be beating a team from the NTDL. Now as for your comment about appearing on foot this season Its a website that people can come on and join whenever they want and they dont have to ask for your permission. As it is clear to see you only popped up on this site at the start of last season yourself so dont go giving me your high and mighty rubbish. We are all entitled to our opinion on this site and if we were all to agree on everything their wouldnt be much point on being on here.
You seem to be brushing off that cashel could mount a genuine challenge in the next 2 seasons which is madness as Clonmel Town are prob going to be rebuilding over the next season or two and Peake seem to be in freefall again according to quotes on this site So the league is wide open for anyone to win it this year.

Looks like you counted your chickens too soon my friend...Peake Villa and Town both above Cashel in the table and cashel in absolute disarray. I also notice that Nenagh Celtic who you were so dismissive of ,are going well in North Tipp.Its amazing the way people get carried away with themselves at the start of the season based on their own bias rather than their knowledge of the game

[bad bhob]

As we are talking about Managers leaving. I hear Clonmel Town B failed to field a team last Sunday as the manager has just walked away. Club asked for time from Tommy Lewis to sort things out, of coarse he said no. Are my facts right or wrong! Maybe FREDDY can tell us what happened.
yea, there seems to be a prob at town b at the moment , they were meant to play bansha this weekend but that has been changed , they now play wilderness with bansha playing saints b
saints man j maguire is reffing this fixture yet again !!!!!!!!!!

[ronburgundy]

does anyone know when the town v peake munster game is on? should be a good 1

[celticlads]

Looks like you counted your chickens too soon my friend...Peake Villa and Town both above Cashel in the table and cashel in absolute disarray. I also notice that Nenagh Celtic who you were so dismissive of ,are going well in North Tipp.Its amazing the way people get carried away with themselves at the start of the season based on their own bias rather than their knowledge of the game

this thing that Peake should be beating a team from North Tipp might be settled this Sunday as they are coming to Nenagh to play Nenagh town. It should be a good game but i hope the Villa come out on top:D

[Mega Tots]

ron is fully aware of when the fixture with peake and town is,it should be a very interesting game for a variety of reasons

[Tipp Top]

Looks like you counted your chickens too soon my friend...Peake Villa and Town both above Cashel in the table and cashel in absolute disarray. I also notice that Nenagh Celtic who you were so dismissive of ,are going well in North Tipp.Its amazing the way people get carried away with themselves at the start of the season based on their own bias rather than their knowledge of the game


Im well able to count my chickens. Clearly you must have a literacy problem as i said that we would challenge for a title in the next 2 years. Yes our club's league for isn't perfect Thats clear for all to see Yes Neangh Celtic are doing well in their respective league but as i have said before i dont rate the NTDL and still feel that most of the teams in the TSDL would win the NTDL league.

[West Hammer]

Anyone know why Clonmel Town F.A.I game called off?

[ponyobrien]

Anyone know why Clonmel Town F.A.I game called off?

They were given a walkover during the week

[useless]

Will Rosegreen get the same stick on here as Rock Rovers got when they had to give a walk over to Clonmel Town a couple of weeks back.Or is it different rules for different clubs.

[Insidetherock]

Will Rosegreen get the same stick on here as Rock Rovers got when they had to give a walk over to Clonmel Town a couple of weeks back.Or is it different rules for different clubs.

No, I don't think Rosegreen will get as much stick as Rock Rovers did for a number of reasons.

1. Rosegreen simply could not fulfil the fixture as they didn't have enough registered players available to do so. They had something like 9 players injured or away at the weekend (it was a bank holiday weekend remember), so they could not field a team.

2. The likliehood was, that even if they had fielded a team, they were unlikely to beat Clonmel Town, and therefore felt that giving a walkover was unlikely to change the overall outcome

3. This was a cup game, and as such the result had no immediate impact on any other team aside from the teams involved. Rock Rovers giving walkovers to teams in the league is a different matter. For example, they played and drew with Cashel Town, but gave a walkover to Clonmel Town. Clonmel Town now have 15 points, and Cashel have 11, a difference of 4 points. Had for example they played and drew with Clonmel and given Cashel a walkover, both teams would now be on 13 points.. so by giving walkovers in the league, they can have effects on other teams, and possible promotion/relegation places

4. The biggest gripe I think most people had with Rock Rovers on the weekend that they gave the walkover, was that they also fielded a B team on the same weekend. If they have enough players to field a B team, then these players should have played with the A team, and perhaps given the walkover in the lower league game. Surely the higher up team should take precedence?

[West Hammer]

Due to Rosegreen giving walkovers at the end of last season and knowing Tommy Lewis as I do, they are in for a large fine and a very stern warning about the rest of the season.
All clubs can get caught out on any given Sunday, but Tommy is like an elephant he never forgets past wrong doings.

[ronburgundy]

good to see we have an outside manager for oscar traynor this year. we may get a fair selection now. my team would be

1. breen
2. cosgrave
3. loughnane
4. breen
5. walsh
6. d burns
7. foggy
8. t scully
9. moroney
10. p shanahan
11. m ryan


formidable line up. my bench would be 12. r ryan (sub keeper ) 13. paul kennedy 14. barry ryan. 15. alan leahy 16. s mcgrath.

im sure there would be a lot of people unhappy with that but the league is lucky, only 16 players can be picked and they all can play

[Insidetherock]

good to see we have an outside manager for oscar traynor this year. we may get a fair selection now. my team would be

1. breen
2. cosgrave
3. loughnane
4. breen
5. walsh
6. d burns
7. foggy
8. t scully
9. moroney
10. p shanahan
11. m ryan


formidable line up. my bench would be 12. r ryan (sub keeper ) 13. paul kennedy 14. barry ryan. 15. alan leahy 16. s mcgrath.

im sure there would be a lot of people unhappy with that but the league is lucky, only 16 players can be picked and they all can play

Dwayne Burns ? I didn't think he was that special when Cashel played Clonmel. What about the red headed ferlla who plays defensive midfield for Clonmel Celtic.. very tidy player. Colin Bargary of Cashel deserves a spot to in my humble opinion, and I'd put Ryan in goal ahead of Breen. But, very strong whatever way you look at it.

[bawn79]

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055722987

I was thinking about this last night.
This would be a great venue for a Tipperary league of ireland team.

It would be central in Tipperary and would have a huge turnover of people if it happens. Some of them may go to watch a football game if the facilities were good enough.

[Insidetherock]

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055722987

I was thinking about this last night.
This would be a great venue for a Tipperary league of ireland team.

It would be central in Tipperary and would have a huge turnover of people if it happens. Some of them may go to watch a football game if the facilities were good enough.


The link isn't working, but I am assuming that you are pointing towards the proposed development at Two Mile Borris that was put into the NTCC for planning permission this week.

It definitely would be a fine stadium for a League of Ireland team, but in fairness, facilities don't make a team viable, supporters do. The real question that would need to be asked is would there be 5-10,000 people in the hinterland willing to go watch a team on a regular basis

Tipperary already had a team in the past, Thurles Town, and they couldn't make it work

[bawn79]

The link isn't working, but I am assuming that you are pointing towards the proposed development at Two Mile Borris that was put into the NTCC for planning permission this week.

It definitely would be a fine stadium for a League of Ireland team, but in fairness, facilities don't make a team viable, supporters do. The real question that would need to be asked is would there be 5-10,000 people in the hinterland willing to go watch a team on a regular basis

Tipperary already had a team in the past, Thurles Town, and they couldn't make it work

Apologies for the link not working but thats the same development. I guess I hadnt heard the idea being floated of there being a team sport involvement and if the oppportunity is to be believed it would be a shame to miss out.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055722987

[balls]

the exact same idea came into my head when i heard of the development. a league of ireland club from tipp to play out of the massive project in 2 mile borris. im sure a handy enough sized tallagh style stadium could be added to plans easy enough. would be a massive passing support around this at weekends with the casino, greyhound racing punters etc so you never know.


as for tsdl team id go for
1 r ryan
2 cant think of decent right full . so gonna play michael ryan out of position here.
3 c higgins
4 p breen
5 chalky
6 T scully
7 c bargary
8 benny ryan
9 ted o connor
10 aaron moroney
11 p fogarty
12 d breen
13 a leahy
14 p shanahan
15 p kennedy
16 cossy ( clonmel celtic)

[Mega Tots]

1- richie ryan
2-darren burns
3-paul tobin
4-chalky
5-breen
6-foggy
7-scully
8-barnes
9-barry ryan
10-moroney
11-kennedy

surely thats a no brainer......who is left out that warrants a starting berth?

[drought90]

not many celtic players on those line-up's...i think they at least deserve two starters and another 1 or 2 on the bench, although in fairness it is hard to argue with any 1 of suggested teams.

[maxwellsmart]

the exact same idea came into my head when i heard of the development. a league of ireland club from tipp to play out of the massive project in 2 mile borris. im sure a handy enough sized tallagh style stadium could be added to plans easy enough. would be a massive passing support around this at weekends with the casino, greyhound racing punters etc so you never know.


as for tsdl team id go for
1 r ryan
2 cant think of decent right full . so gonna play michael ryan out of position here.
3 c higgins
4 p breen
5 chalky
6 T scully
7 c bargary
8 benny ryan
9 ted o connor
10 aaron moroney
11 p fogarty
12 d breen
13 a leahy
14 p shanahan
15 p kennedy
16 cossy ( clonmel celtic)

More or less agree with you except would have Higgins right back and loughnane from Peake Villa left back.Swap Michael Ryan for Kennedy.However, its a tough one to call as some very good players left out

[Tipp Top]

For me it has to be.

1 R. Ryan
2 C. Bargary
3 D.Loughnane
4 A. Leahy
5 P. Breen
6 T. Scully
7 I. Barnes
8 D. Duggan
9 B. Ryan
10 A. Moroney
11 P. Fogarty

12 P.Kennedy
13 T. O'Connor
14 Cossy
15 J. Walsh
16 D. Breen

[Tipperary_Man]

any reports from today's Munster Junior and FAI games?

[Bin Ladin]

my team- g.robinson,p.coady,chalky,breen,p,tobin,t.scully,b enny ryan,dwayne burns,a.moroney,p.kennedy,jj.butler subs r.ryan,c.bargary,j.cagney,j.murphy,c.higgins

[Bin Ladin]

i dont rate paul shanahan at all i dont how any of ye cud pick him

[Benjy Riordan]

any reports from today's Munster Junior and FAI games?

Blackcastle United beat Rock Rovers on pens after game finished 4-4 aet.

[tipp man]

Clonmel Town 3-2 Peake Villa aet

[ponyobrien]

Clonmel Celtic 2-0 Cashel Town

Simon Scully pen
Paddy O'Donnell

[tipp man]

Draw made last night for the first round of Tipperary Cup. Stand out ties are:
Peake Villa v St. Michaels
Two-Mile-Borris v Clonmel Town

[Tipp Top]

Peake and Saints should be a very good game. It's a pity both had to meet each other at such an early stage in the competition.

I watched Town and Peake on Sunday. It was a very good game, Peake were the better team in the first half and played very well. Town dominated the second half and extra time and only for the Peake keeper they could have scored a few more goal's. I must say the standard of finishing for all 5 goals was very good and a credit to all scorer's.Tony Scully and Barry Ryan played very well for Town, Barry was unlucky not to score one or two more. Foggy and Donal Duggan were Villa's best two players.

[Mega Tots]

was an enthralling game,villa dominated the first half and maybe could have been further ahead,town came out of the blocks a hundred miles an hour in the second half and a great header from barry ryan had them level but villa responded well and duggan scored a cracker,typically tony scully dragged town level and barry ryan almost won it with a spectacular overhead kick but once it went to extra time was only going to be one winner,town were far fitter and villa fell asleep from a short corner and raymie condon headed the winner,town seem to have turned a corner,john shanahan,rory kiely and barry murphy were strong subs to be able to call on

[CashelMan]

Town seem to be gettin things back on track.they still wont win the league but at least they wont be fighting relegation or anything.sounded like a very good game.

did barry ryan get any stick for playin with town?
i thought i heard during the year that rory kiely was going to sign for clonmel celtic.

just want to say as a cashel town fc supporter all my life and have been there through good and bad times.i heard there yesterday that david slattery was back training for cashel.its brilliant news for the team he has been missed in alot of the games he has been out as nearly in all the games they were lacking that spark that he brings.lets hope he is back on the playing field as soon as possible.

[collegeroad]

David Slattery has been a huge losse to Cashel Town this season. In the 3 games he played, he scored 3 goals. He also went off injured in his 3rd game against Peake before half time.

[maxwellsmart]

not many celtic players on those line-up's...i think they at least deserve two starters and another 1 or 2 on the bench, although in fairness it is hard to argue with any 1 of suggested teams.

Here is the official squad for Sat night
Clonmel Town
Richard Ryan,
Ian Barnes,
Tony Scully,
Dwayne Burns,
Aaron Moroney,
Rory Kiely.
St. Michaels
Derek Breen,
Paul Breen,
Christopher Higgins,
Paul Tobin,
James Walsh,
Paul Kennedy,
Peake Villa
Paraic Fogarty,
Michael Ryan,
Ted O’Connor,
Donal Duggan
Clonmel Celtic
John Cagney,
Graham Doyle
Cashel Town
Colin Bargary
Rock Rovers
J. J. Butler

Seems fair enough. I know there are some that are unlucky to be left out, but you can't argue with those selected.Are all those selected fit / available?

[DrRobert]

yes the squad is very good.top players in there.i thought cagney was a surprise.i dont rate him.very static but graham doyle is a very good player.i thought i would see alot more celtic players as they have probably been the best team so far in the league apart from saints.

im delighted with the micheals players picked.

if i was the manager team would be

Ryan
Higgans
Chalk
Breeno
Tobin
Fogarty
Bargary
Scully
Kiely
Moroney
Burns

best of luck

[Town Fan]

Here is the official squad for Sat night
Clonmel Town
Richard Ryan,
Ian Barnes,
Tony Scully,
Dwayne Burns,
Aaron Moroney,
Rory Kiely.
St. Michaels
Derek Breen,
Paul Breen,
Christopher Higgins,
Paul Tobin,
James Walsh,
Paul Kennedy,
Peake Villa
Paraic Fogarty,
Michael Ryan,
Ted O’Connor,
Donal Duggan
Clonmel Celtic
John Cagney,
Graham Doyle
Cashel Town
Colin Bargary
Rock Rovers
J. J. Butler

Seems fair enough. I know there are some that are unlucky to be left out, but you can't argue with those selected.Are all those selected fit / available?

No Craig Condon or Ian Fraher from Celtic
Good to see Town turning things around-league maybe beyond them but they are getting stronger

[Park100]

ya very strong squad!! hope those that are chosen will give it 100%.. if squad is choosen ON CURRENT FORM surprizin cosgrave fraher waters and joyce couldnt make the selected 16.

[ronburgundy]

Here is the official squad for Sat night
Clonmel Town
Richard Ryan,
Ian Barnes,
Tony Scully,
Dwayne Burns,
Aaron Moroney,
Rory Kiely.
St. Michaels
Derek Breen,
Paul Breen,
Christopher Higgins,
Paul Tobin,
James Walsh,
Paul Kennedy,
Peake Villa
Paraic Fogarty,
Michael Ryan,
Ted O’Connor,
Donal Duggan
Clonmel Celtic
John Cagney,
Graham Doyle
Cashel Town
Colin Bargary
Rock Rovers
J. J. Butler

Seems fair enough. I know there are some that are unlucky to be left out, but you can't argue with those selected.Are all those selected fit / available?


great squad. shows the strength of the league. best of luck

[drought90]

how there is only 2 clonmel celtic players is ridiculous, i'm not sure if they are available either. Players like rory kiely being picked having not played a full league game this season isn't right. very strong contingent from michaels and town as usual but i think the time has come to freshen up the side with some new faces.

[likealion]

Very harsh theres not more Celtic players in it, you'd think he only went to watch one of there matches this season....oh wait he did.....so I heard!!

[Bin Ladin]

ian fraher and david joyce do you honestly tink they are good enough to make the best 16 players in tipp come on now and craig condon overated and to slow

[Bin Ladin]

jj butler is struggling with a foot injury didnt play for rock rovers last sunday

[ronburgundy]

there is no way fraher should be on it. a good player but what attacking player would you put him ahead of?? none

[collegeroad]

I think Andrew Cosgrave would be well worth his place on the TSDL panel. Lots of experience, good touch, pace and strong on the challenge.

[Park100]

i agree with you collegeroad cosgrave is a good player but im sure barry ryan knows what players he needs to get the job done sat night 2003 is to long time ago hopefully the tsdl will win it out this season,also best of luck to the oscar traynor youths v waterford district league on saturday and there new manager ned greene..

[collegeroad]

Any report on last nights game?

[zizu's head]

Any report on last nights game?

I don't think the game went ahead!!
Anyone got any more info?

[Park100]

think twas caled off due to weather.. any one know when its re scheduled for??

[Mega Tots]

well lads are games going ahead tomorrow?

[Insidetherock]

One more round of the internal FAI games to go, and all the big hitters in the TSDL are still standing. There should be some juicy games in the last qualifying round. Does anyone know when the draw is to be made ?

TSDL teams left are

Cahir Park
Peake Villa
Cashel Town
Moyglass
Clonmel Town
Clonmel Celtic
Balligarry Albion
St Michael's (their match was called off after almost 70 mins due to the weather, but they were 4-0 up)

Nenagh Celtic and Thurles Celtic also won their games, so can anyone fill us in on the final two teams (matches) to make up the last twelve.

I'd imagine a lot of the Premier teams would fancy pulling Moyglass or Ballingarry out of the hat.