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The Fly
29/04/2009, 7:44 PM
Apparently Keane is the Late Late Show this Friday!
Expect half the country to tune in!

NeilMcD
29/04/2009, 7:46 PM
Just out of curiousity where did you hear this.

The Fly
29/04/2009, 7:49 PM
Just out of curiousity where did you hear this.

My mother told me she heard it on the radio this evening, which my younger brother confirmed shortly after. I have been searching the RTE website to find some sort of official confirmation, with no success so far, but as soon as I do I'll post it.

tetsujin1979
29/04/2009, 8:33 PM
RTE usually don't post the guest list for the Late Late and Tubridy Tonight until Friday

Stuttgart88
29/04/2009, 8:44 PM
They probably had to build a bigger studio to house Roy Keane's sense of self-importance. The builders may have let it slip.

elroy
29/04/2009, 8:44 PM
RTE usually don't post the guest list for the Late Late and Tubridy Tonight until Friday

Just advertised after the United game. Off the top of my head, this is his first Irish tv interview since he was on the Dunphy show. Trust Kenny will make a balls of the interview and ask no uncomfortable/awkward questions.

Stuttgart88
29/04/2009, 8:45 PM
Funny thing is, i actually quite like Roy Keane.

Stuttgart88
29/04/2009, 8:46 PM
Trust Kenny will make a balls of the interview and ask no uncomfortable/awkward questions.His interview with the 4 rugby lads was a cringe.

What questions should be asked?

Is it reasonable for a club's owner to expect the manager to attend training nearly all of the time?

What do you think of the Irish at Ipswich?

What would qualify as success?

How do you rate Mick's achievement of winning Championship a second time?

Does Marcus Evans actually exist?

tetsujin1979
29/04/2009, 9:29 PM
Just advertised after the United game. Off the top of my head, this is his first Irish tv interview since he was on the Dunphy show. Trust Kenny will make a balls of the interview and ask no uncomfortable/awkward questions.Sod's law, that ad came on right afrer I posted!


His interview with the 4 rugby lads was a cringe.

What questions should be asked?

Is it reasonable for a club's owner to expect the manager to attend training nearly all of the time?

What do you think of the Irish at Ipswich?

What would qualify as success?

How do you rate Mick's achievement of winning Championship a second time?

Does Marcus Evans actually exist?I don't expect anything more probing than "where did you buy that nice suit?"

EastTerracer
30/04/2009, 12:54 AM
Off the top of my head, this is his first Irish tv interview since he was on the Dunphy show.

.....during which Roy stated "what do you mean sent home, nobody sent me home"

Just to complete the full circle from Razor's post earlier today.

bennocelt
30/04/2009, 7:10 AM
[QUOTE=Stuttgart88;1152203].

As James Lawton said, he's motivated by self-interest only.

QUOTE]

agh please!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

Scram
30/04/2009, 7:31 AM
They probably had to build a bigger studio to house Roy Keane's sense of self-importance. The builders may have let it slip.

:D Fuelled by Fools.

You are 100% correct that self-interest is his only motivation, proven by his absence of loyalty to Ireland, and astonishingly, to Man Utd.

weldoninhio
30/04/2009, 12:06 PM
His interview with the 4 rugby lads was a cringe.

What questions should be asked?

Is it reasonable for a club's owner to expect the manager to attend training nearly all of the time?

What do you think of the Irish at Ipswich?

What would qualify as success?

How do you rate Mick's achievement of winning Championship a second time?

Does Marcus Evans actually exist?

"But when we came up we had 13 or 14 players starting into the Premiership. You’ll sign anybody who will play. I would be giving contracts to players I didn’t rate that highly. I needed the bodies!" - Quote from Keane

I'd like to see Pat paraphrase this and then ask where it sits with Roys famous "Fail to Prepare, Prepare to Fail" mantra. Given that he had 6 or so months from when promotion was looking likely to the end of the summer transfer window.

Wolfie
30/04/2009, 12:18 PM
Towards the end of the interview he should say:

"Roy, will you join with me in introducing my next guest - Tony Cascarino!!!!!!"

seanfhear
30/04/2009, 12:45 PM
He should ask him would he be better to concentrate on becoming a good manager and keeping out of the media spotlight for a few years ?

He should ask him was he the guy that chose the legion of players that were brought to Sunderland with most of them not been up to the job ?

He should ask him if being a manager when some of your players are making your life a misery would be something he could get a bit of advice from Mick McCarthy about ?

SunderlandBohs
30/04/2009, 1:07 PM
Pat Kenny should also ask, If he thinks he is entitled to a bonus payment if Sunderland stay up, does that mean he has to take some of the blame if their relagated?

SUB of the day
30/04/2009, 1:18 PM
Roy, what do you think of the Stephen Ireland situation?...............given his own history, his take on this would be fascinating.Like him or loathe him, the audience for this show will be huge, as Quinn says, "Roy Keane is box office"

SUB of the day
30/04/2009, 2:15 PM
Roy, what do you think of the Stephen Ireland situation?...............given his own history, his take on this would be fascinating.Like him or loathe him, the audience for this show will be huge, as Quinn says, "Roy Keane is box office"

The RTE news at one had an interview with Roy at Croker for the annual Guide Dog gig.Stephen Ireland, Andy Reid and Lee Carsley all get a mention.See clip at www.rte.ie and click on news at one, nice little taster for friday night.

Razors left peg
30/04/2009, 4:37 PM
The RTE news at one had an interview with Roy at Croker for the annual Guide Dog gig.Stephen Ireland, Andy Reid and Lee Carsley all get a mention.See clip at www.rte.ie (http://www.rte.ie) and click on news at one, nice little taster for friday night.

there is a 7 minute interview with him in the sports section of the RTE website

Stuttgart88
30/04/2009, 8:35 PM
Good taster alright. He looked like he'd taken his meds and was in full calm and charming mode.

Good to see him support Trap as well.

geysir
30/04/2009, 9:42 PM
I had a surreal idea, that Dunphy had a tv chat show going, where he was on some stage interviewing Roy. Or am I getting mixed up with a scene from the The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie.

EastTerracer
30/04/2009, 10:30 PM
Roy's annual chat about the Guide Dogs once again brings up some interesting comments. Andy Reid fans beware!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1175881/Keane-Id-sleep-outside-Stephen-Irelands-house-play-Republic-again.html?ITO=1490

"One Irish player in particular hasn’t kicked a ball in three years and seems to play every time he’s come over. I can’t work that one out." - I'm still trying to work out who he's talking about (Zinedine?)!

NeilMcD
30/04/2009, 10:37 PM
Is it Liam Miller or Caleb Folan, Stephen Reid or Damien Duff. I think whoever it is Keane is factually wrong. Actually the more I read it the more I am convinced its Duff.

geysir
30/04/2009, 11:40 PM
What I (Roy)would say to the lad, if I ever bumped into him in Manchester, I’d say “listen, your career is over before you know it, if you get an opportunity to play for Ireland under a good manager then go for it.”

As if to say his World Cup was taken away by a bad manager. Always the whiff of the extremely unpleasant begrudger about him.

geysir
30/04/2009, 11:46 PM
Just because Roy hasn't a clue what he is talking about, doesn't stop him from shoveling sarcasm by the bucket load.

Probably Roy is talking about McShane.

Colbert Report
01/05/2009, 4:06 AM
McShane is only in the squad as cover for the eternally injured Steve Finnan.

seanfhear
01/05/2009, 9:13 AM
What I (Roy)would say to the lad, if I ever bumped into him in Manchester, I’d say “listen, your career is over before you know it, if you get an opportunity to play for Ireland under a good manager then go for it.”

As if to say his World Cup was taken away by a bad manager. Always the whiff of the extremely unpleasant begrudger about him.
In fairness that is probably as good an endorsment of playing for Ireland that you would expect from Roy Keane.

Thats actually praising Roy in case there is any misunderstanding.
Stephen Ireland would do well to listen to this advice from a man that had his own "minor" problems in relation to playing for Ireland.

DeLorean
01/05/2009, 9:18 AM
Is it Liam Miller or Caleb Folan, Stephen Reid or Damien Duff. I think whoever it is Keane is factually wrong. Actually the more I read it the more I am convinced its Duff.

Definitely sounds like Duff to me. I don't think he meant it literally when he said he hasn't kicked a ball in 3 yrs. All the talk about past reputations does sound like Duff though. He also said Trapp should "literally" sleep outside SI's house!! Shades of Jamie Redknapp's classic - "They literally threw the kitchen sink at them"!!!

jbyrne
01/05/2009, 9:34 AM
What I (Roy)would say to the lad, if I ever bumped into him in Manchester, I’d say “listen, your career is over before you know it, if you get an opportunity to play for Ireland under a good manager then go for it.”

As if to say his World Cup was taken away by a bad manager. Always the whiff of the extremely unpleasant begrudger about him.

after hearing him yesterday i genuinely think he regrets the whole 2002 wc episode. i really do. some players are their own worst enemies at times and its not until they stop playing that they realise their mistakes

NeilMcD
01/05/2009, 9:47 AM
Definitely sounds like Duff to me. I don't think he meant it literally when he said he hasn't kicked a ball in 3 yrs. All the talk about past reputations does sound like Duff though. He also said Trapp should "literally" sleep outside SI's house!! Shades of Jamie Redknapp's classic - "They literally threw the kitchen sink at them"!!!

I actually think he does mean literally sleep outside the house as he quote the Clough story of sleeping in Archie Gemmills house.

DeLorean
01/05/2009, 10:16 AM
I actually think he does mean literally sleep outside the house as he quote the Clough story of sleeping in Archie Gemmills house.

Could you really see Keane going to those kind of lengths for someone though?

NeilMcD
01/05/2009, 12:19 PM
http://www.rte.ie/arts/2009/0501/latelateshow.html

Den Perry
01/05/2009, 1:21 PM
remember when Jack Charlton appeared on late late after the season ofter Saipan and he asked what Keane said to Mccarthy and Kenny whispered into his ear like a school snitch? now this spoon will probably lick the hole off Roy tonight

DeLorean
01/05/2009, 1:27 PM
http://www.rte.ie/arts/2009/0501/latelateshow.html

Nothing too juicy there

SunderlandBohs
01/05/2009, 1:45 PM
Why was it pre-recorded? Is it just me or does RK look like a cartoon satan?

DeLorean
01/05/2009, 1:48 PM
Presume he needed to be getting back to England to take care of business. Don't see the resemblance really!!

geysir
01/05/2009, 1:51 PM
after hearing him yesterday i genuinely think he regrets the whole 2002 wc episode. i really do. some players are their own worst enemies at times and its not until they stop playing that they realise their mistakes
Then Roy would have said 'don't waste it, like I did'.
I'd say your thoughts are more what you would like to believe.

Roy says 'don't waste it when you have a good manager'.
In this context he regrets missing the WC but blames the bad manager.

NeilMcD
01/05/2009, 1:57 PM
Then Roy would have said 'don't waste it, like I did'.
I'd say your thoughts are more what you would like to believe.

Roy says 'don't waste it when you have a good manager'.
In this context he regrets missing the WC but blames the bad manager.

I think a question that Keane should be asked is this.

If you had a top player in your set up who wanted preferential treatment as in coming in late for games or leave a little early after games, what would you do and how would you approach it.


Secondly if this said player then questioned your authority in relation to the set up of the team and the preperation of the team, and wanted more professional attitude and set up but went mouthing to the press about it, how woud you deal with it.

jbyrne
01/05/2009, 3:03 PM
Then Roy would have said 'don't waste it, like I did'.
I'd say your thoughts are more what you would like to believe.

Roy says 'don't waste it when you have a good manager'.
In this context he regrets missing the WC but blames the bad manager.

i cant back up what i think but between yesterdays stuff and interviews over the last year or so i have formed an opinion that he regrets it, including his own part in the whole mess at the time

Calcio Jack
01/05/2009, 3:28 PM
I think a question that Keane should be asked is this.

If you had a top player in your set up who wanted preferential treatment as in coming in late for games or leave a little early after games, what would you do and how would you approach it.


Secondly if this said player then questioned your authority in relation to the set up of the team and the preperation of the team, and wanted more professional attitude and set up but went mouthing to the press about it, how woud you deal with it.


Can I suggest a third question to complete this theme:

If in front of his teammates you accused your captain and a player who never ever gave anything less than 100% when playing for you of feigning injury when you knew he'd never done so.... what response would you expect from that player ? if his response was to call you a liar , would you (a) come clean and acknowlege that you had indeed lied or (B) feign hurt, go to the media and whinge and also demand an apology from that player and banish him from playing for you if the player didn't apologise.

Forthly.... having chosen option (B) on mature reflection would you agree that you exhibted poor management by confronting your player in front of his teammates instead of having a one to one conversation with him amd ensuring that you didn't banish him but maintained a working relationship with him to ensure that your team could compete to its maximum potential or would you still insist that you made the right decision in confronting him in an agressive manner by falsely and knowingly accusing him of 'cheating' in front of his peers to satisfy your own immaturity and inner self doubts....

Drumcondra 69er
01/05/2009, 3:35 PM
If in front of his teammates you accused your captain and a player who never ever gave anything less than 100% when playing for you of feigning injury when you knew he'd never done so....

:D:D

Are you serious here???? Are you honestly saying he never missed Ireland games through injuries which seemed to clear up in time for him to play for Man u the following week? Think back now.....

NeilMcD
01/05/2009, 3:39 PM
Hey I agree that Mc Carthy was wrong once it got as far as the meeting. But I think it would be much more interesting to hear Keanes opinions on how to deal with a professional dedicated great player who set high standards that sometimes came across as criticising the manager in public. That is the point I was trying to get across. The two questions I have asked are neither pro or anti Roy Keane or pro or anti Mick Mc Carthy as I think both were at fault for various aspects of it. Just wondering basically how would Roy Keane deal with a smilar player to himself or would that be possible.

Stuttgart88
01/05/2009, 3:40 PM
Q: Was sneaking off at dawn after the home Iran game without wishing the rest of the team luck or offering words of advice or encouragement behaviour fitting of a team captain?


You could go on and on. On the feigning injury issue, I reckon it was in response to RK's tirade in the first place, not a slowly calculated insult. You know the way, someone insults you, you can't think of a quick retort so you just say something hurtful.

And if there's anyone here who has never suspected MUFC players of missing internationals because of spurious injuries they're naive. How many friendlies has Giggs played for Wales?

NeilMcD
01/05/2009, 3:41 PM
:D:D

Are you serious here???? Are you honestly saying he never missed Ireland games through injuries which seemed to clear up in time for him to play for Man u the following week? Think back now.....

There is a difference to be fair, in feigning injury and missing an Ireland game on the Wednesday and playing for the club on the Saturday.

Did you accuse Aiden Mc Geady and Damien Duff of feigning injury recently when they missed the Italy but both played on the Saturday for their clubs. Steve Finnan did the same recently and Steven Gerrard did it also for England in the recent past.

Drumcondra 69er
01/05/2009, 3:49 PM
There is a difference to be fair, in feigning injury and missing an Ireland game on the Wednesday and playing for the club on the Saturday.

Did you accuse Aiden Mc Geady and Damien Duff of feigning injury recently when they missed the Italy but both played on the Saturday for their clubs. Steve Finnan did the same recently and Steven Gerrard did it also for England in the recent past.

That's fair enough, point is that it happened regulalry with Roy so for the OP to state that MM knew that RK had never feigned injury is laughable.

You'd swear he was a saint and turned up for everything the way some would have histroy re-written, we won't even get into him not bothering to turn up at the airport or notify anyone that he wasn't coming on a trip where he was captaining the side for example.

jbyrne
01/05/2009, 3:52 PM
Q: Was sneaking off at dawn after the home Iran game without wishing the rest of the team luck or offering words of advice or encouragement behaviour fitting of a team captain?


is this theoretical question? if not, how do you know this is how it happened?

NeilMcD
01/05/2009, 3:55 PM
That's fair enough, point is that it happened regulalry with Roy so for the OP to state that MM knew that RK had never feigned injury is laughable.

You'd swear he was a saint and turned up for everything the way some would have histroy re-written, we won't even get into him not bothering to turn up at the airport or notify anyone that he wasn't coming on a trip where he was captaining the side for example.


I think the accusation against Keane for feigning injury for the Iran game is harsh and over the top and I think Stuttgart is right that probably Mick Mc Carthy said it in the heat of the argument, he probably regretted saying it but would not back down on just one point.

Did Keane take liberties with Mc Carthy as the manager, yes he did, was McCarthy right to allow this, it is hard to know.

That is why I think the questions I would ask Keane are along the lines of how would he deal with a player similar to himself, basically a great player and leader on the pitch with some questionable behaviour off the pitch but with a proven ablility to lead teams to victory.

As I said both Mc Carthy and Keane were wrong in Saipan but I think the interest for me in this woudl be how would Keane deal with a smilar player and character to himself. I suppose his comments in relation to Stephen Ireland offer us some sort of insight but how it would pan out in practice is another thing.

NeilMcD
01/05/2009, 3:55 PM
Probably just over in Dublin for the day on Wednesday.

Yeah Ipswich are playing Sunday so he probably does not want to fly in on Wed and then fly back in again on the Friday and fly out Friday night after the show etc.

EastTerracer
01/05/2009, 4:00 PM
Why was it pre-recorded? Is it just me or does RK look like a cartoon satan?

I do see a slight resemblance with Robert deNiro playing Satan in Angel Heart:eek:
http://epltalk-e7.simplecdn.net/uploads/2008/12/roy-keane.jpg
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/angelheart1.jpg

eirebhoy
01/05/2009, 4:11 PM
If what Keane says about that meeting in true then I back Keane and I can't remember reading anyone contradict what he said.

He said he had his temper fully in control as McCarthy ranted about his article and he was letting McCarthy have his say and would pull him aside on his own later on. He said when McCarthy accused him of faking injury he just lost the plot.

Paul McGrath said it was like waving the red flag to a bull.

If Roy didn't start shouting abuse until McCarthy made that accusation then as I said I'd be fully backing Keane. Getting wrongly accused of something makes the blood boil to my head in an instant. :)

/I was genuinely accused earlier today by a family member of gambling my wages this month. I bet €30 and a huge dental bill has me screwed. My reaction wasn't nice.