Roy Keane

[Crosby87]

I just think its funny that Hughes nickname is "sparky". Supposedly Stephen Irelands nickname is "sparkles."

[Morbo]

When will the penny drop on people that Keane talks a lot of palpable self absorbed contradictatory nonsense.

I liked Mark Hughes's reply

"I think you guys [in the media] will all be happy that he is back because he's good value, bless him. But I'm not upset about it. Everyone knows what Roy's like and having him back in football makes it interesting for the Championship, so good luck to him. I'm not going to be coming into much contact with him, obviously."
:D Sneaky little dig there.

[Stuttgart88]

I just think its funny that Hughes nickname is "sparky". Supposedly Stephen Irelands nickname is "sparkles."Really? Extraordinary. Thanks for the revelation.

[seanfhear]

I just think its funny that Hughes nickname is "sparky". Supposedly Stephen Irelands nickname is "sparkles."
All that sparkles isn't gold

[Noelys Guitar]

Good start for Keane as Ipswich manager. 3-0 away to Cardiff.

[Colbert Report]

Why did Alex Bruce get subbed off at 27 minutes? Was he injured?

[tetsujin1979]

Why did Alex Bruce get subbed off at 27 minutes? Was he injured?
Dislocated his thumb - http://www.itfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10272~1639376,00.html

Alex Bruce will have a scan to determine the extent of the damage to his thumb.

The Republic of Ireland international was forced off in the first-half of Blues' 3-0 win at Cardiff after dislocating his thumb.

[tricky_colour]

It was X-rayed and he was given the thumbs up :o

[seanfhear]

Roy keane is the best manager ever. The mans a genius. ipswich will be universe champions

Jeez i have swallowed all the hype. I hope this is not as good as it gets for Roy at Ipswich. Keane out I just can't cope with the hype !

[Scram]

Roy keane is the best manager ever. The mans a genius. ipswich will be universe champions

Jeez i have swallowed all the hype. I hope this is not as good as it gets for Roy at Ipswich. Keane out I just can't cope with the hype !

I hope it is becasue I am SO sick of the ridulous hype around this turncoat. And, he slips back into obscurity in Middle England where he belongs. A sad man with a sad bunch of dillusional misguided cling on admirers.

[amaccann]

I see Keane's first game made the front page of the Sunday Tribune; no surprises there!

[eirebhoy]

I see Keane's first game made the front page of the Sunday Tribune; no surprises there!
I still don't really see what people think is the problem here.

Nakamura makes the main headline in the Japanese Sports pages when he scores for Celtic.
Larsson would be the main headline in Sweden if he took over an English club and won 3-0.
Polish TV have been showing every Celtic game since they signed Boruc and Zurawski.
Beckham was most likely on the back pages of the English papers when he made his debut for Real Madrid.

etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

/edit to point out to people that it's front page of the sports section, not the main paper.

[Scram]

I still don't really see what people think is the problem here.

Nakamura makes the main headline in the Japanese Sports pages when he scores for Celtic.
Larsson would be the main headline in Sweden if he took over an English club and won 3-0.
Polish TV have been showing every Celtic game since they signed Boruc and Zurawski.
Beckham was most likely on the back pages of the English papers when he made his debut for Real Madrid.

etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

FRONT PAGE of The Sunday Turbine, whilst unemployment is expected to hit 450,000 this year and the country is in the midst of a Fianna Fail driven disaster!! Perspective please!

There is a HUGE difference between showing games and back page coverage of CURRENT players than the ridiculous media frenzy and front page coverage around this ex-player and begrudger of all his ex Ireland team mates.

Larrson would absolutely NOT be Front page news in Sweden for any result unless it was the national team, why would you presume otherwise?

And, your points re. "Polish TV have been showing every Celtic game since they signed Boruc and Zurawski." etc., actually shows how ludicrous the media coverage here of Roy Keane is, in that RTE do not "show every game of Robbie Keane" for example, yet there is all this coverage of Roy Keane!!!

Total inconsistency and porn to feed the moronic RoyKeaneophiles, rushing out to buy Ipswich jerseys, total Muppets.

League of Ireland supporters must be outraged and rightly so, especially when you see the likes of the disgraced former Taoiseach jumping on the Keane bandwagon.

[eirebhoy]

FRONT PAGE of The Sunday Turbine, whilst unemployment is expected to hit 450,000 this year and the country is in the midst of a Fianna Fail driven disaster!! Perspective please!

No, sorry, amaccann made a mistake there which I should have picked up on. It's not front page of the Tribune. There's no mention of sport on their front page. It's on the front page of their sports section. The main headline is about Liverpool's win. On top of that is O'Leary to miss out on Lions squad. And Keane's debut win is the side article.

So no need for me to reply to the rest of your post as it's obviously based on this story being front page news which it wasn't. :)

[amaccann]

Uh yeah, I should have been more specific, it was the front page of the Sports section (along with Man U's result & Thomas O'Leary's injury in rugby). Plus there's a full page inside dedicated to Keane's new role.

[Colbert Report]

He's the greatest player we've had in my lifetime, plus he's a very controversial figure. I don't blame the papers for having these stories, I'm a big Keane fan and I'll pay to read them. That doesn't make me a muppet. I have my own theory on people who follow the LOI but I don't want to get into any trouble on this site so I'll keep those thoughts to myself.

[Thebolg]

I think it's partly because people were fond of him because he was a very good player, and others hated him because he was a bit of a ******. He's no longer a very good player.

excellent post.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Uh yeah, I should have been more specific, it was the front page of the Sports section (along with Man U's result & Thomas O'Leary's injury in rugby). Plus there's a full page inside dedicated to Keane's new role.

I have to say, given that an Irish manager and ex Irish captain actually won the Championship on Saturday, the lack of match reports and pictures in the majority of papers shows up how biased the mdeia are in this country when compared to the 2 page spreads and full match reports on Ipswich's result.

[amaccann]

I have to say, given that an Irish manager and ex Irish captain actually won the Championship on Saturday, the lack of match reports and pictures in the majority of papers shows up how biased the mdeia are in this country when compared to the 2 page spreads and full match reports on Ipswich's result.
To be fair, the previous week, either the Saturday Irish Times or Sunday Tribune ran a full page article on McCarthy and his achievement to date if I recall correctly, so it ain't all bad.

[Drumcondra 69er]

To be fair, the previous week, either the Saturday Irish Times or Sunday Tribune ran a full page article on McCarthy and his achievement to date if I recall correctly, so it ain't all bad.

There was an interview in the indo on Saturday as well, I just think that there should have been reports on Saturday's game given that he actually won the title then. And that a large number of Irish players were invovled in that sucess. Compare that to when Sunderland won it a couple of years back. Souvenier posters, special supplements, the works!

[Oink]

Jaysus lads in fairness, the boyos who knock Keane and his sheep are just as bad. He wasn't great at Sunderland, but he wasn't that bad, especially considering it was his first managerial position.... the "club" failed in the end. Giving that much money to a completely inexperienced manager was idiotic and the pressure from the fans if he didn't spend and wasn't doing well would have been overwhelming.... it was doomed by design. Keane made a balls of it but was coaxed in that direction every step of the way. He's learned a thing or two now and I think he will do well, but if he's ever to become a top manager he has a lot of work to do and it won't be in the near future.

[Razors left peg]

FRONT PAGE of The Sunday Turbine, whilst unemployment is expected to hit 450,000 this year and the country is in the midst of a Fianna Fail driven disaster!! Perspective please!

There is a HUGE difference between showing games and back page coverage of CURRENT players than the ridiculous media frenzy and front page coverage around this ex-player and begrudger of all his ex Ireland team mates.

Larrson would absolutely NOT be Front page news in Sweden for any result unless it was the national team, why would you presume otherwise?

And, your points re. "Polish TV have been showing every Celtic game since they signed Boruc and Zurawski." etc., actually shows how ludicrous the media coverage here of Roy Keane is, in that RTE do not "show every game of Robbie Keane" for example, yet there is all this coverage of Roy Keane!!!

Total inconsistency and porn to feed the moronic RoyKeaneophiles, rushing out to buy Ipswich jerseys, total Muppets.

League of Ireland supporters must be outraged and rightly so, especially when you see the likes of the disgraced former Taoiseach jumping on the Keane bandwagon.

Well Im living in Sweden at the moment and everything Larrson or Zlatan does is massive news

[SkStu]

He's the greatest player we've had in my lifetime, plus he's a very controversial figure. I don't blame the papers for having these stories, I'm a big Keane fan and I'll pay to read them. That doesn't make me a muppet. I have my own theory on people who follow the LOI but I don't want to get into any trouble on this site so I'll keep those thoughts to myself.

dont want to drag this too off topic but seeing as though you brought this up, i want to know if the same theory will simply apply to all people who follow their own domestic leagues? Spaniards who follow La Liga, Italians that follow Serie A, French folk who support their local La Ligue team etc etc. You'd swear that us LOI fans are doing something unusual... :confused:

[Colbert Report]

dont want to drag this too off topic but seeing as though you brought this up, i want to know if the same theory will simply apply to all people who follow their own domestic leagues? Spaniards who follow La Liga, Italians that follow Serie A, French folk who support their local La Ligue team etc etc. You'd swear that us LOI fans are doing something unusual... :confused:


I live in Canada. What do you think I watch on Saturday afternoons - Toronto FC vs. Kansas City Wizards or Manchester United vs. Liverpool?

I was recently in Cork and went down to Turner's Cross to check out this great LOI I've been reading about for years on this very website. I went in with the best of intentions - I really wanted the quality to be good.

The players out there were out of shape and unable to string five passes together without losing the ball. I'm NOT trying to start anything on here as I've been warned about stirring the pot with LOI supporters. You've every right to follow your local team and if I lived in Ireland I would likely do the same as I love the sport immensely. If you'll allow me to worship Roy Keane in peace I'll let you do the same with your local LOI club. Fair deal?

[Colbert Report]

I've just re-read your post. You're from bloody Saskatchewan! I went to Taylor Field last summer for a Stamps/Riders game and it was great craic. But if you can't get out to the ground to have a pint and enjoy the atmosphere what would you REALLY want to watch on TV - Bombers/Riders or Cowboys/Jets? Think about it.

[SilkCut]

I live in Canada. What do you think I watch on Saturday afternoons - Toronto FC vs. Kansas City Wizards or Manchester United vs. Liverpool?

I was recently in Cork and went down to Turner's Cross to check out this great LOI I've been reading about for years on this very website. I went in with the best of intentions - I really wanted the quality to be good.

The players out there were out of shape and unable to string five passes together without losing the ball. I'm NOT trying to start anything on here as I've been warned about stirring the pot with LOI supporters. You've every right to follow your local team and if I lived in Ireland I would likely do the same as I love the sport immensely. If you'll allow me to worship Roy Keane in peace I'll let you do the same with your local LOI club. Fair deal?

Good post, I was an avid follower of Longford town when I lived there, however I really only went to the games for the craic I had with friends. The quality was always awful, even when we went to see Bohs, Pats, Cork, Shels and the other full time teams. I now live in Australia and went to see a couple of A- League games, because the craic was not as good as at LOI games I will not be attending any more games. I love football for what it is, a game, when played well it is a fantastic spectacle when played poorly (as it is in all less developed leagues) it can be painful. I appreciate that there are those out there who will go to games because the love of their team outweighs the love of the actual game. In fact I kind of applaud these fans, but I can't see how one can genuinely support a group of players who more than likely have no links to the locality of their club and are really just playing because it is their job to do so, more than one can just support the game itself or a great player from their locale. This brings me to the point of this post. Why can we, as Irish people, not just get behind the best player we have ever produced (please don't argue as no other player no matter how good, that we have produced, has had the same effect on the game as Keane) and hope he does us proud in his new career. Yes what he did in Saipan was wrong (hindsight is fantastic eh?) but there were several parties involved not just Keane. We tend to forget that every time he pulled on an Irish shirt he gave it his all. He was the driving factor behind that team qualifiying for that world cup, every game he took by the scruff of the neck, he refused to lie down and give up, that attitude obviously rubbed off on the other players. This attitude did not change upon his return either, lets face it he could have insisted upon being captain but didn't, it takes a big man to come back and just get on with the job (which he did). We also forget the impression he left on the Champions league stage, I have no affection for Man Utd. whatsoever but that night in Turin I was a very very proud Irishman because one of our own had shown the football world just what we are made of. Ask yourselves this "if Roy Keane had missed games because he was drunk or played games while still drunk would we be slagging him off or cheering him on?" Paul McGrath let his club and country down on a number of occasions because he preferred to go drinking, he himself has admitted it. do we argue about him? No we all love the guy and so we bloody well should because when he was on the pitch he was immense, for all McGraths faults we would always prefer to have him than not to. The same should go for Keane, yes the guy has his demons, yes he can be a nasty so and so on occasion, yes he has made bad decisions and no he is not everyones cup of tea but the fact remains we would prefer to have him than not to because when he does what he is paid to do he is awesome and never gives less than his all. He has the potential to be a very good manager, possibly better than our little country has ever produced before so we should support him not just because he is Irish but because he is Irish and he is good at what he does. If you can scream with delight because some Portugese man scores for a team from a different country or even for the African who has just converted a cross from the Englishman playing for your local team surely you can wish a countryman the best of luck as he embarks on the next chapter of his career.

[Scram]

No, sorry, amaccann made a mistake there which I should have picked up on. It's not front page of the Tribune. There's no mention of sport on their front page. It's on the front page of their sports section. The main headline is about Liverpool's win. On top of that is O'Leary to miss out on Lions squad. And Keane's debut win is the side article.

So no need for me to reply to the rest of your post as it's obviously based on this story being front page news which it wasn't. :)

I'd rather you did reply! :)

Even main back page headline is totally ridiculous. Please replace "Front Page" with "Back Page" in considering my post (and in reconsidering your signature!)

Again, League of Ireland supporters must be outraged and rightly so, especially when you see the likes of the disgraced former Taoiseach jumping on the Keane bandwagon.

As for Larsson; he played for his country for as long as he could, is universally admired and probably would be better than managing a mediocre Division 2 team!

Surely the likes of Reading, with a large contingent of good Irish footballers, a vibrant Irish Community and Irish clubs deserves more press than this clown and Ipswich! (but nobody should get this type of coverage).

ps. I notice the hypocrite Dunphy is back on the bandwagon promoting a special Keane issue of the Star's Fanzine. In fairness, this "Socialist" is probably struggling to try and recoup some of his investment in Anglo-Irish Bank, bless.

[DeLorean]

Even main back page headline is totally ridiculous. Surely the likes of Reading, with a large contingent of good Irish footballers, a vibrant Irish Community and Irish clubs deserves more press than this clown and Ipswich! (but nobody should get this type of coverage).

Paper's print things in order of importance, importance to them being what people are more interested in reading about. I suspect a lot more people read about Keane's first match at Ipswich than Reading's important win last night. It would be suicide for the papers to prioritise less popular stories. Keane's big news, it's not likely to change so for your own sanity you'd probably be better off accepting it.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Paper's print things in order of importance, importance to them being what people are more interested in reading about. I suspect a lot more people read about Keane's first match at Ipswich than Reading's important win last night. It would be suicide for the papers to prioritise less popular stories. Keane's big news, it's not likely to change so for your own sanity you'd probably be better off accepting it.

Unfortunately, it's that attitude which has lead to the likes of Jade Goody being front page news for most of this year so far, things that's aren't actually that important are givem way too much priority in this day and age, it's dumbing down of the media in general.

[DeLorean]

Unfortunately, it's that attitude which has lead to the likes of Jade Goody being front page news for most of this year so far, things that's aren't actually that important are givem way too much priority in this day and age, it's dumbing down of the media in general.

Although I would agree with you in relation to the likes of the Jade Goody stories it would be mainly trashy tabloids that carry that sh!t. I think there is a big difference between that and what we are discussing although I'm sure you would argue the principle remains. It's a bit more debatable at least whether or not Roy Keanes first match in charge of Ipswich should take preference over another Championship team who have a few less profile Irish guys playing for them.

[bennocelt]

Paper's print things in order of importance, importance to them being what people are more interested in reading about. I suspect a lot more people read about Keane's first match at Ipswich than Reading's important win last night. It would be suicide for the papers to prioritise less popular stories. Keane's big news, it's not likely to change so for your own sanity you'd probably be better off accepting it.

man thats so untrue!!:rolleyes:

[DeLorean]

man thats so untrue!!:rolleyes:

Untrue as in what? I'm not saying they print what you or I find important but I am saying they print what the majority of people are most likely to buy

[razor]

I was recently in Cork and went down to Turner's Cross to check out this great LOI I've been reading about for years on this very website. I went in with the best of intentions - I really wanted the quality to be good.

The players out there were out of shape and unable to string five passes together without losing the ball.Are you sure City were at home? Could have been the Mossie Linnane Cup Final.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Although I would agree with you in relation to the likes of the Jade Goody stories it would be mainly trashy tabloids that carry that sh!t. I think there is a big difference between that and what we are discussing although I'm sure you would argue the principle remains. It's a bit more debatable at least whether or not Roy Keanes first match in charge of Ipswich should take preference over another Championship team who have a few less profile Irish guys playing for them.

I agree. I do think that an Irish manager winning the Championship with a team including a large number of Irish players should take precedence over a meaningless end of season game even if it was RK's first in charge though.

Personally I just find the circus surrounding RK slightly embarrassing, I think people are beginning to tire of it a little at this stage mind you.

[cheifo]

Onanother note I was glad to see he selected Garvan who had been left out a number of times under Magilton.

Can Keane bring him on to the next level?For me this is the main story reg Keane taking over at Ipswich.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Onanother note I was glad to see he selected Garvan who had been left out a number of times under Magilton.

Can Keane bring him on to the next level?For me this is the main story reg Keane taking over at Ipswich.

I know he's always been Owen Garvan's hero so hopefully he'll respond well to working with him. Owen's got a great attitude, he's not a boozer and is a good down to earth lad, I think Keane won't have any problems on that count with him.

[eirebhoy]

I'd rather you did reply! :)

Even main back page headline is totally ridiculous. Please replace "Front Page" with "Back Page" in considering my post (and in reconsidering your signature!)
If Larsson took charge of Ipswich he would be on the back pages of the Swedish papers without a shadow of a doubt. After winning 3-0 on his debut, no question.

That's pretty much the only point there is to reply to. Roy Keane is the biggest personality in this country. It's no surprise he makes the back pages. He's also adored by many Irish people. It's obvious they're going to wish success for him and therefore success for Ipswich.

Why would LOI fans be "outraged"? Because an Irishman is pushing Man Utd or another premiership team off the back pages?

The media are going to put on the back pages what people want to read. Fans of league of Ireland clubs know that

[amaccann]

Well certainly I don't believe proper LoI fans would be outraged, because at this stage the proper LoI fans would be well used to the Sunday Tribune ignoring the league (except of course when a club is in financial trouble).

Edit: Though somewhat ironically I ahve noticed this season the tribune have started running reports on some games.

[drummerboy]

Onanother note I was glad to see he selected Garvan who had been left out a number of times under Magilton.

Can Keane bring him on to the next level?For me this is the main story reg Keane taking over at Ipswich.

Totally agree with you on this Chiefo. Owen hasn't had the greatest of seasons. He seemed to have an uneasy relationship with Magelton after stalling on a new contract last year. He needs a big season. He definitely has the ability and Keane may get the best out of him. Lets hops so.

[Razors left peg]

I'd rather you did reply! :)

Even main back page headline is totally ridiculous. Please replace "Front Page" with "Back Page" in considering my post (and in reconsidering your signature!)

Again, League of Ireland supporters must be outraged and rightly so, especially when you see the likes of the disgraced former Taoiseach jumping on the Keane bandwagon.

As for Larsson; he played for his country for as long as he could, is universally admired and probably would be better than managing a mediocre Division 2 team!

Surely the likes of Reading, with a large contingent of good Irish footballers, a vibrant Irish Community and Irish clubs deserves more press than this clown and Ipswich! (but nobody should get this type of coverage).

ps. I notice the hypocrite Dunphy is back on the bandwagon promoting a special Keane issue of the Star's Fanzine. In fairness, this "Socialist" is probably struggling to try and recoup some of his investment in Anglo-Irish Bank, bless.

Larrson retired from international football and was convinced to come back after a time.... Very similarly to Keane

[geysir]

The difference is, Larsson is God.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Larrson retired from international football and was convinced to come back after a time.... Very similarly to Keane

Didn't retire on an R & R stop on the way to the world cup finals themselves coz he didn't like the manager though, did he?

Let's be honest, it's not similar at all, is it?

[Razors left peg]

Didn't retire on an R & R stop on the way to the world cup finals themselves coz he didn't like the manager though, did he?

Let's be honest, it's not similar at all, is it?

Do we really have to go through all this again:(
I was simply correcting a point made by Scram when he was the one that brought Larrson up.
It is similar that Larrson and Keane retired from international football and both returned to it.... and the same as quite a few others in world football.
And for the record it was McCarthys choice to send Keane home from the so called R+R stop

[Razors left peg]

The difference is, Larsson is God.

Well Larrson and Keane are probably my 2 favorite players of all time so you get no arguements from me about that

[Scram]

Do we really have to go through all this again:(
I was simply correcting a point made by Scram when he was the one that brought Larrson up.
It is similar that Larrson and Keane retired from international football and both returned to it.... and the same as quite a few others in world football.
And for the record it was McCarthys choice to send Keane home from the so called R+R stop

I wasn't actually, I was correcting a point made by Eirebhoy. Any more corrections needed, please let me know.

[Stuttgart88]

And for the record it was McCarthys choice to send Keane home from the so called R+R stopAfter Keane had behaved impeccably all week of course. It's not like Mick thought long and hard and calculatedly decided to send him home. It's all semantics. I could have set fire to my school and been expelled, and rightly said well it was their fault I'm not in school anymore - they sent me home.

Keane had a jet chartered to take him back if he'd only swallow his pride and take into consideration the wishes of his whole country and the thousands that had forked out hard-earned cash to go out and watch him. That TV interview with Tommie Gorman still sticks in my craw.

As James Lawton said, he's motivated by self-interest only.

I've resisted comment on the S-word for 5 years now but just couldn't keep it in any longer.

Anyway, I blame Tom Humphries more than anyone.

[Stuttgart88]

I'd prefer Larsson to babysit NeilMcD's imaginary children.

[geysir]

13 pages.
The thread is a demonstration of how far we have moved on from that place.
War use to break out on page 3.

[Paddy Garcia]

Huge mistake dipping into this thread- I thought there might be some new news.

[NeilMcD]

After Keane had behaved impeccably all week of course. It's not like Mick thought long and hard and calculatedly decided to send him home. It's all semantics. I could have set fire to my school and been expelled, and rightly said well it was their fault I'm not in school anymore - they sent me home.

Keane had a jet chartered to take him back if he'd only swallow his pride and take into consideration the wishes of his whole country and the thousands that had forked out hard-earned cash to go out and watch him. That TV interview with Tommie Gorman still sticks in my craw.

As James Lawton said, he's motivated by self-interest only.

I've resisted comment on the S-word for 5 years now but just couldn't keep it in any longer.

Anyway, I blame Tom Humphries more than anyone.

I blame DHL and Ray Treacy :) !!!!!

Honestly at the time I would have sided with Keane on this but as time goes by and as I get older I feel that he was more to blame than Mc Carthy but neither came out of it great but honestly if I met either I would shake both their hands for their performances for Ireland and I can honestly say that I hope both of them do well at their clubs as there is not that many Irish managers at the higher levels of the game.