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elroy
01/10/2012, 1:23 PM
This is a strange one. Add to the list of David O'Leary with Al Ahli, Ronnie W with Panionios, Nicossa and Limassol.
Spudulika
01/10/2012, 1:43 PM
In fairness Ronnie W. down in the Hellenic world wouldn't have been such a big surprise as he'd a holiday apartment for a long time, had his business/residency there etc. For Roy, I can see him do a good job. He'll be away from the nonsense of English football, will get stuck in and grow. If he sticks it to the end of the season he'll have taken a step up in his career.
peadar1987
01/10/2012, 1:52 PM
He's going to get stuffed every week.

I don't know, I can see him spending the rest of his managerial career over there, maybe moving upstairs as director of football when he's an old sage. If I was in his position right now, I'd take any crumbs I could get.
gastric
02/10/2012, 9:13 AM
Blackburn another option according to the Indo.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/keane-wings-into-turkey-but-keeps-one-eye-on-blackburn-job-3247204.html
Fixer82
02/10/2012, 9:57 AM
I don't know, I can see him spending the rest of his managerial career over there, maybe moving upstairs as director of football when he's an old sage. If I was in his position right now, I'd take any crumbs I could get.

He'll do well out there away from all the English Premiership players hamming it up. Once he gets a leg up and keeps a breast of things going on back home I think he'll fly it
peadar1987
02/10/2012, 10:13 AM
He'll do well out there away from all the English Premiership players hamming it up. Once he gets a leg up and keeps a breast of things going on back home I think he'll fly it

Although with the old chestnut of his temper, I can imagine problems could sprout up, even if Keane is known for gobbling up criticism.
Fixer82
02/10/2012, 10:38 AM
Although with the old chestnut of his temper, I can imagine problems could sprout up, even if Keane is known for gobbling up criticism.
I think he'll slip into the job and everything will be just gravy.
Who's he gonna manage?
Gala-mash-aray? (sorry)
redobit
02/10/2012, 10:46 AM
still not far enough away ...
peadar1987
02/10/2012, 10:49 AM
I think he'll slip into the job and everything will be just gravy.
Who's he gonna manage?
Gala-mash-aray? (sorry)

Enough of these puns. I'm going to bow out of this thread and keep a breast of the latest developments elsewhere.
DannyInvincible
02/10/2012, 11:22 AM
Will they be able to understand the Cork accent or will it just sound like gobbledygook to them?
ArdeeBhoy
02/10/2012, 11:54 AM
His isn't that strong, by their standards.

Possibly his only redeeming feature...
:rolleyes:
Olé Olé
02/10/2012, 12:27 PM
Blackburn another option according to the Indo.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/keane-wings-into-turkey-but-keeps-one-eye-on-blackburn-job-3247204.html

Is that the reason the official announcement has been delayed? Saturday's reports hinted a Monday announcement from the Turkish club.

EDIT: He landed in Turkey last night at Ataturk airport where he refused to answer the media's questions.
NeverFeltBetter
02/10/2012, 1:08 PM
I can't believe this is actually happening.
Spudulika
02/10/2012, 1:13 PM
The Blackburn thing was a smokescreen. He signed a pre-contract on Friday after meeting with reps in England earlier in the week. Dan McDonnell tried to dredge it up (sells more papers to the barstoolers) and there was talk of it in the UK, but it's best for him to head to Turkey. In 2002 I thought his behaviour ott, which was something considering his behaviour before it. However he can, with the right support, be a good enough manager (with a good coach beside him) and make a proper career. He has some good players at his disposal in Turkey, some serious lads, so good luck to him.
Fixer82
02/10/2012, 3:24 PM
he loves nearly going to Blackburn doesnt he
Junior
02/10/2012, 5:52 PM
Blackburn wouldn't to h him since the Season Ticket fiasco :-)

Good luck to him out there though.
Charlie Darwin
02/10/2012, 9:10 PM
It will be interesting what style of football he plays if he's now managing one of the stronger teams in the league. Sunderland played some good stuff when they walked the Championship but they became very practical when they stepped up to the Premier. Keane has always enjoyed a bit of ball played on the ground.
tetsujin1979
02/10/2012, 10:09 PM
remember when he had agreed to sign for Dalglish, but signed for United the following Monday?
Olé Olé
02/10/2012, 10:36 PM
As ever, Newstalk's Off The Ball delivered the pertinent insight into a story such as this. A Turkish journalist described how the club are hoping for a top 5 finish but that Turkish football's mindset is strictly focused on immediate success so failure to deliver on this front leads to dismissal. See the recent failures of Rijkaard, Hiddink and Del Bosque. Kasimpasa is the club supported by the Turkish president, although they have been languishing quite low in recent years, they have a strong history as a decent side around the top leagues. Also stated it's a project like that of QPR and Malaga with owners in possession of funds intent on rejuvenating a club with a strong identity.

I'm just wondering, why Keane? So many more managers in the game. Although the journalist stated that Keane is instantly recognizable due to his days at the heart of Manchester United's success. Sometimes, I feel, the media in the UK tends to pay more homage to Giggs, Scholes, Henry and Bergkamp. Keane has been as critical to his side's success as any of them, in my opinion.
Charlie Darwin
02/10/2012, 10:45 PM
As ever, Newstalk's Off The Ball delivered the pertinent insight into a story such as this. A Turkish journalist described how the club are hoping for a top 5 finish but that Turkish football's mindset is strictly focused on immediate success so failure to deliver on this front leads to dismissal. See the recent failures of Rijkaard, Hiddink and Del Bosque.
I'd hardly consider those managers in the same league as Roy.
Olé Olé
02/10/2012, 10:50 PM
I'd hardly consider those managers in the same league as Roy.

Nor would I. That sort of worries me but they were with once of the big 3; Besiktas, Fenerbhace and Galatasaray. I'm imagining things are slightly more cut-throat at those sides. But if this chap is flinging money at Kasimpasa then he has a right to expectations too, I guess.
NeverFeltBetter
02/10/2012, 11:14 PM
As ever, Newstalk's Off The Ball delivered the pertinent insight into a story such as this. A Turkish journalist described how the club are hoping for a top 5 finish but that Turkish football's mindset is strictly focused on immediate success so failure to deliver on this front leads to dismissal.


The club only got promoted last year and are within touching distance of the top of the table after a few games this season. Did they really just decide their last guy wouldn't be able to stay in the top 5?
Carrigaline
02/10/2012, 11:45 PM
Nor would I. That sort of worries me but they were with once of the big 3; Besiktas, Fenerbhace and Galatasaray. I'm imagining things are slightly more cut-throat at those sides. But if this chap is flinging money at Kasimpasa then he has a right to expectations too, I guess.
On reputation at least, Kasimpasa would not only be behind Besiktas, Fenerbahce, Galatasaray, but also behind Trabzonspor and Bursaspor. Expectations are going to be extremely high and if Keane even goes 2-3 games without winning, he will be under pressure.

Just had a quick google, and in the last few years Kasimpasa have nearly went through a new manager every 6 months!
Fixer82
03/10/2012, 10:13 AM
Just had a quick google, and in the last few years Kasimpasa have nearly went through a new manager every 6 months!

That'd be a long oul stint for Roy ;)
Charlie Darwin
04/10/2012, 3:07 PM
He's turned down the job as he doesn't want to relocate his family to Turkey: http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2012/1004/1224324876845.html

Makes you wonder why he bothered going for talks with them at all. It's almost as if he was trying to coax an English club into making him an offer.
theworm2345
04/10/2012, 3:10 PM
He's turned down the job as he doesn't want to relocate his family to Turkey: http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2012/1004/1224324876845.html
Triggs must not have liked the Turkish dog food.
nigel-harps1954
04/10/2012, 3:46 PM
You'd have to guess that's he's pretty much a shoe in for the Blackburn job now.
NeverFeltBetter
04/10/2012, 3:54 PM
Another chapter for the updated biography I suppose.
Mr A
04/10/2012, 5:13 PM
Doesn't want to move his family there, WTF? Is the possibility of having to move to the country he's managing in just occurring to him or what?
Spudulika
04/10/2012, 8:03 PM
Very strange, bad show from Roy, if he plumps for Blackburn it shows the limit of his ambition and courage. Trading Turkey for chicken, says much about the man.
ArdeeBhoy
05/10/2012, 12:29 AM
Surely one Kean(e) was enough for Blackburn...
the bear
05/10/2012, 1:06 PM
At least the rovers fans will save time and money making Keane out banners. Just stick an e on the end
Uncle_Joe
05/10/2012, 4:30 PM
The Kean is dead!
Long Live the KEANE!
tricky_colour
06/10/2012, 4:28 AM
He's going to get stuffed every week.


and no doubt take a bit of a basting.
tricky_colour
06/10/2012, 4:31 AM
Oh well seems he has chickened out.
ArdeeBhoy
23/10/2013, 1:22 PM
Him and Fergie strike me as a right pair of hypocrites now slagging each other off. About how 'fierce' ​the other was.
And bullies too.

http://www.irishpost.co.uk/sport/fergie-roy-keane-picked-on-john-oshea
NeverFeltBetter
23/10/2013, 1:46 PM
The John O'Shea thing was no secret to United fans. Keane always had the aura of a drill sergeant, trying to whip the younger guys into shape through sheer aggression and intimidation. Eventually, with his own deficiencies becoming more and more acute, he went too far with the young lads in the team at that time. They went on to become better players after Keane left (especially Fletcher), and I'd agree there was a connection there, to an extent anyway.

I'm seeing all of these "revelations" from Ferguson described as "savage" and "explosive" attacks, but they look like nothing of the sort to me. Just telling it like it was, and like most people knew already.
Closed Account 2
23/10/2013, 2:20 PM
I think he's gone over the top in places, Keane, Beckham even Gerrard (saying he's not top player but then saying he tried to sign him). The best example is with Owen Hargreaves. He's said he was his worst signing and not motivated at all, personally I don't think they've looked that solid in central midfield since he got injured. As for him being the worst signing, well it doesnt compare to some of dross that he signed like Massimo Taibi, William Prunier, Ralf Milne, Gabriel Overran, Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, Dong Fangzhun, Bellion, Bébé. Or if you factor in cost of the transfer fee was he worse than Veron or Berbatov?
NeverFeltBetter
23/10/2013, 2:37 PM
Hargreaves (allegedly) had major attitude problems during his extended recovery process, which might be the provoking factor in that statement. When he went off injured a few minutes into his return game in 2008 Ferguson got very ****ed off, started questioning his mental state. The fact that he signed with City after United finally gave up on financing his recovery (which he then complained about) probably also bites.

Hargreaves was good, but never a "top, top" player as Ferguson likes to put it when discussing others. Of course those injury problems were considerable, he's just one of those players who could have made a much bigger impact at United and never got the chance.
DeLorean
23/10/2013, 2:45 PM
Hargreaves always looked fully motivated on the pitch anyway. He was excellent when he played in that 2007/08 season, very versatile, and I don't think they won have won the Champions League without him personally. I remember Ferguson making some comment alright that he wasn't brave enough to make the step back from injury, or something to that effect, which seemed harsh.*

Keane & Ferguson are cut from the same cloth really... they're both as guilty as each other when it comes to hypocrisy.

Keane's United dressing room antics from ten years ago should be irrelevant when/if being considered for the Ireland job I think. That's not to say I'd like him to get it.


*Edit - only saw NFB's post afterwards.
ArdeeBhoy
23/10/2013, 3:14 PM
Think I just said that DL...
;)

As in the middle paragraph.
DeLorean
23/10/2013, 3:25 PM
I missed that too :o
geysir
23/10/2013, 3:30 PM
Keane's United dressing room antics from ten years ago should be irrelevant when/if being considered for the Ireland job I think. That's not to say I'd like him to get it.

They are irrelevant to the Ireland job, if Keane shows that he's moved on and matured. I have my doubts about that. But if anybody would like to point out evidence to the contrary, I'll reconsider.
BonnieShels
23/10/2013, 3:49 PM
The Kean is dead!
Long Live the KEANE!

The Kean is working in the S League now managing Brunei DPMM.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24620318
OwlsFan
23/10/2013, 5:10 PM
Keane calling Ferguson disloyal !!

1957
DannyInvincible
23/10/2013, 5:18 PM
Roy's ma wades in to defend her boy: http://balls.ie/football/roy-keane-mother-ferguson/


When you come at Roy Keane beware the wrath of his mother. She is in the Irish Sun today giving out stink about Alex Ferguson’s chapter on Roy in his new autobiography.

‘God Almighty, I can’t believe Sir Alex would say such things about Roy. I just can’t believe it. I would never have thought he would do something like this,’ she said in response to Ferguson scathing words about Keane’s Manchester United departure and managerial career.


‘He’s our son and he has a wife and children and it’s not nice for any of us to be hearing someone run a loved one down like that … It’s all very nasty what he said. It’s nasty really. It’s terrible and I’m very upset.’

Keane may have shown thick skin on ITV last night but his mother Marie seems to feel very betrayed, considering their close relationship with Ferguson down through the years. ‘Myself and Mossie have met him numerous times. He was always very nice and courteous to us … When I was sick he sent me flowers and when Mossie was in hospital he sent him a basket of fruit.’

Maybe Ferguson’s next public appearance will be him and Marie going one-on-one in the octagon.
NeverFeltBetter
23/10/2013, 5:30 PM
Truth hurts.
geysir
23/10/2013, 6:45 PM
Roy's ma wades in to defend her boy: http://balls.ie/football/roy-keane-mother-ferguson/
A Sun exclusive. That story has all the signs of being a made-up piece.
Though it's so glaringly corny, it could just be a mock-up piece but The Sun doesn't do humour like that, does it?
ArdeeBhoy
23/10/2013, 10:09 PM
That was all over the web/Facebook, even yesterday, so seems real enough?
DeLorean
24/10/2013, 9:24 AM
They are irrelevant to the Ireland job, if Keane shows that he's moved on and matured. I have my doubts about that. But if anybody would like to point out evidence to the contrary, I'll reconsider.

I have my doubts too. What I meant was that new information coming to light, from an autobiography, shouldn't have any impact. I worded it badly.