Paul McShane [Archive] - Page 15

Kingdom

17/02/2011, 3:22 PM

That's only 8 for 4 places and I for one would not select O'Dea ahead of McShane. At least the latter has some pace to make up for his mistakes and he's also better in the air but the point I was making anyway is that the mere fact that he's gone to Barnsley doesn't mean he's finished as an Irish international.

Disagree with you. He can play centre half and arguably can play right back. I'm just saying that in my mind, and in the mind of a few others I would venture, that he's well down on both counts. I'd actually have Andy O'Brien ahead of him too. Darren O'Dea has shown (briefly) that he actually has proper potential, and can keep his head in pressure situations (eg Celtic Champions Lge) ->this would point to something else being up with O'Dea; injuries, loss of faith with manager, loss of confidence etc. Whereas unfortunately the image I'm always, always always going to remember Paul McShane for is Paul watching Henry collect a punt into the box that he should have cleared.

I'm well aware that there are only 8 for 4 places, but when there is versatility there amongst the back line (which there is without doubt - OShea, Foley, Clark, Kelly can all play numerous positions across the back)

Agree with your basic point though - the club the fella is going to shouldn't be the reason whether his international career ends or not. That is down to his ability and the ability of those ahead of him. It's on that premise that his int career is finished :-)

Edit
And as CD said, Paul McShane, pace?

paul_oshea

17/02/2011, 3:54 PM

McShane... pace?

well surely he must have some pace for you to think he can still make the premier league.

OwlsFan

17/02/2011, 4:21 PM

McShane... pace?

Compared to O'Dea but then I might be comparing a carthorse to a donkey (I am not saying which is which).

Charlie Darwin

17/02/2011, 5:48 PM

well surely he must have some pace for you to think he can still make the premier league.
There are lots of players without pace in the league. I haven't seen much of O'Dea but from what I've seen he hasn't looked particularly slow.

Paddy Garcia

17/02/2011, 7:36 PM

Not a fan of 'I told you so' posts, especially given McShane has many years ahead of him. I'm not a McShane fan but I wouldn't be surprised to see him play in the Premier League again.

I would be. I find it difficult to imagine the circumstances. Maybe if he gets promoted, but his position will be one of the first they find a replacement for. Unfortunately.

tetsujin1979

16/04/2011, 3:48 PM

Sent off this afternoon for violent conduct

Paddy Garcia

17/04/2011, 8:29 AM

You mean he hit his target??

Charlie Darwin

17/04/2011, 2:17 PM

Heard he went absolutely mental. Haven't seen it yet.

geysir

17/04/2011, 3:20 PM

Usually not known for his wit, the Barnsley manager said "it was a classic case of handbags".

strangeirish

17/04/2011, 10:47 PM

McShane... pace?
Yeah, pace cadet...

DannyInvincible

17/04/2011, 11:16 PM

Heard he went absolutely mental. Haven't seen it yet.

Video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ka6ngVSRI

His initial tackle did look a bit heedless.

Charlie Darwin

17/04/2011, 11:31 PM

A load of nothing really but he was stupid to make contact with the player's face.

seanfhear

19/04/2011, 8:15 PM

I wonder would he have got away with the first (a bit over aggressive(at least)) if he had not gone off on one when he himself was tackled.

And Er' what direction was Paul actually playing after he "won" the ball ?

Sullivinho

07/06/2011, 5:02 PM

Decent piece on McShane (http://www.examiner.ie/sport/soccer/in-the-name-of-the-father-157024.html) from the Examiner. "Yes we can beat them" is his verdict on Italy. Is f�idir linn Paul, Is f�idir linn.

There's also the revelation that Liam Lawrence has followed in Mel Gibson's illustrious footsteps and vacated the screen for a position behind the camera. His first production, "Hunty does Druid's Glen (The Passion of the Hunt)" has already received a positive review from Ireland's latest captain.

"The thing was," McShane grinned, "at the first hole he stepped up and thought he would cream it but he went right into the ditches. Liam Lawrence videoed it and it is a good video."

To answer the original poster's question though...no, probably not at this stage.

tetsujin1979

30/07/2011, 9:58 PM

McShane out for a month with calf injury: http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-CITY-Pearson-won-t-Hobbs-risk/story-13031414-detail/story.html
Not going to see him against Croatia so, and if he misses that game, he's unlikely to play against Slovakia or Russia

DannyInvincible

31/07/2011, 12:29 AM

Not going to see him against Croatia so, and if he misses that game, he's unlikely to play against Slovakia or Russia

You'd think that now, but wait'll you see.

BonnieShels

31/07/2011, 8:17 PM

Danny, we were all thinking that when Tets say it but if you end up right I'll be on the first flight to Manchester.

Wolfie

03/08/2011, 12:37 PM

McShane out for a month with calf injury

I didn't realise he was so involved and committed to cattle. Here's hoping the little moo pulls through.

paul_oshea

03/08/2011, 12:50 PM

Video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ka6ngVSRI

His initial tackle did look a bit heedless.

I thought Mcshane would be quite strong but clearly there yer man is getting the better of him. Weakling(k).

tetsujin1979

12/11/2011, 11:57 PM

Stephen Hunt was on soccer am this morning talking about his Irish teammates, you can see the full segment here: http://www.skysports.com/socceram/media/video/0,21631,12612_7305175,00.html
According to him, McShane is the best trainer, which would go someway towards explaining why he's constantly selected in squads. Trapattoni sees what he is capable of on the training pitch, and hopes think he can reproduce it in a game.
Incidentally, this is why I think Gibson is selected in squads too, he's supposed to be excellent in training, which shows what he is capable of

TrapAPony

13/11/2011, 12:09 AM

According to him, McShane is the best trainer, which would go someway towards explaining why he's constantly selected in squads.

That's all well and good but he's a sub for Hull. What sort of form is he showing that he deserves to be picked for the squad in the first place.

tricky_colour

01/12/2012, 3:28 PM

He just scored for Hull V Forest (IIRC)

Sign him up Trap!!!!

tricky_colour

01/12/2012, 11:25 PM

Well lets sum up the performance of the Irish players....
Meyler gave away a penalty, as did Brady, but on the plus side McShane scored!! (with his hand apparently), who does he think he is?
Thierry Henry??

Carrigaline

01/12/2012, 11:48 PM

Yard of Pace

02/12/2012, 12:05 AM

Was talking to a lad who used to play with him at St. Joeseph's who was shocked when McShane ended up being signed by United.

A friend of a friend played for Joe's (as did I about 20 years ago!) alongside McShane and he told my pal that McShane was fairly average but spent one off-season being trained in a ridiculously tough manner by his dad and that helped improve his game enough to eventually get him signed. Or something to that effect anyway.

IsMiseSean

02/12/2012, 4:57 PM

What a man (http://instagram.com/p/SvSLWWpSKr/)

Crosby87

02/12/2012, 5:00 PM

Its Will Ferrell!

Paddy Garcia

02/12/2012, 6:11 PM

Stephen Hunt was on soccer am this morning talking about his Irish teammates, you can see the full segment here: http://www.skysports.com/socceram/media/video/0,21631,12612_7305175,00.html
According to him, McShane is the best trainer, which would go someway towards explaining why he's constantly selected in squads. Trapattoni sees what he is capable of on the training pitch, and hopes think he can reproduce it in a game.

He is so good in training that he knobbled one of the 1st team recently - I think it was Robbie before the German game.

The problem with having him around is that he is a risk to our players in training and a risk to our goal in games!

Stuttgart88

03/12/2012, 12:41 PM

He scored a controversial goal at the weekend. I think I read he scored with his hand. He must have learnt from Thierry Henry. He was close enough.

geysir

03/12/2012, 2:23 PM

'he's an honest lad'

McShane
"It definitely wasn't a handball. I'd tell you if it was, it came off my chest and shoulder area,"

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275786/Article/images/17485076/4365004.jpg

BonnieShels

03/12/2012, 2:56 PM

He scored a controversial goal at the weekend. I think I read he scored with his hand. He must have learnt from Thierry Henry. He was close enough.

If he had been close enough Henry wouldn't have gotten to handball it.

;-)

paul_oshea

03/12/2012, 3:07 PM

it came off my chest and shoulder after it hit my hand.

Nothing dishonest in what he said, he just didn't say everything. There is a difference, still an honest lad.

geysir

03/12/2012, 3:46 PM

it came off my chest and shoulder after it hit my hand.

Nothing dishonest in what he said, he just didn't say everything. There is a difference, still an honest lad.
He said it wasn't hand ball, therefore 'it did not hit my hand'.
Unless there is evidence to suggest otherwise, he deserves to get the benefit of any doubt in the matter.

You can look up 'evidence' in the dictionary, assuming you do know what a dictionary is? :)

paul_oshea

03/12/2012, 4:12 PM

I do know, i looked up the thesaurus.

geysir

03/12/2012, 4:18 PM

Remember, it's to be digested, not swallowed :)

DannyInvincible

04/05/2013, 1:55 PM

McShane scored for Hull today in their 2-2 draw against Cardiff City to help them gain promotion.

tricky_colour

04/05/2013, 2:06 PM

Sign him up Trap!!!!

tricky_colour

04/05/2013, 2:11 PM

4 Irish played and go up McShane Brady Quinn Meyler.

Should balance out those coming down!!!

geysir

04/05/2013, 2:19 PM

It came from a Brady corner delivered to land about 5m out.
McShane forced his way to get in front of a Cardiff defender who ended up hanging onto his shirt, still McShane managed to get a clean strike on the ball.
Bruce totally lost his head after the game and chased after the ref, who was making a quick exit down the tunnel.
The ref had done nothing wrong, he awarded 2 stonewall penalties in ET, one to each side. Hull just missed theirs.

OwlsFan

05/05/2013, 9:20 AM

McShane scored for Hull today in their 2-2 draw against Cardiff City to help them gain promotion.

Delighted for him. Whether he'll keep his place like half the Hull side when they play in the Premiership is another matter. That's one of the ironic things I always think when I see teams celebrating promotion. Half them will lose their place. It was interesting that when the Hull team was watching the Watford game on Sky, Robbie Brady plonked himself in front of the camera while McShane stood composed at the back. A limited but whole hearted player but I hate hearing him getting stick from fans.

Will be interesting to see how many of the 4 keep their place.

Stuttgart88

05/05/2013, 12:37 PM

Hear hear, re-McShane. There's a lot to admire in him. I also hate hearing him get stick and it wasn't his fault Trap seemed to think he was the next Cafu at one stage.

By the way, bar a silly lunge that might have earned a red card in an international (one of those where you let the ball run away from you and lunge in after it) Brady was a cut above everyone else on the pitch at times. There was some general good play but only Brady looked to have that bit extra. Bruce played him upfront in a 442.

Charlie Darwin

06/05/2013, 1:37 AM

I might be the only one but I don't have palpatations when I see McShane wear an Irish shirt. He's one of those odd players who can be calamitous but his class shows at key moments. I'm not in the least surprised to see his goal was key to Hull's promotion. Very excited to see Brady, Meyler and Quinn again playing at the top level of English football.

paul_oshea

07/05/2013, 1:42 PM

geysir

07/05/2013, 2:01 PM

Yep his class shows at key moments, like the ones where you are looking dead cert for penalties in a world cup play-off, where he lets his man get in behind him and watches the ball glide past him!!! Those sorta key moments!
I hope one day you'll overcome your fear of the Irish defender giving away a penalty. I suspect that the fear shifts its focus, depending on who's in our back 4?

My own fear is that the ref allows himself to be fooled by the actions of a devious attacker, going out of his way to get contact with a defender and fall over theatrically. We are riding our luck with that one, we got away with the ref spotting Lewandowski's sham penalty claim but how much longer can we depend on having an eagle eyed official to save our skins? Surely one day, the ref will get fooled and award a penalty against us?
Only death will give us peace from all fears.

Bungle

07/05/2013, 2:10 PM

I have nothing but the utmost respect for Paul McShane as a man and as a professional. There are few players that I would love to see perform and thrive at the highest level than him. He seems to be a cult hero for the Hull fans and maybe that might bring greater confidence to his game. Certainly, when he was breaking into the Irish team, I had a fair bit of confidence, that he could achieve good things in the game.

However, while I'm delighted for him, I have to admit that my heart sinks anytime I see him wearing a green shirt. He always gives me the feeling of being a liability. He is slow and cumbersome and you feel that he is always liable to give away a penalty.

paul_oshea

07/05/2013, 2:23 PM

I hope one day you'll overcome your fear of the Irish defender giving away a penalty. I suspect that the fear shifts its focus, depending on who's in our back 4?

My own fear is that the ref allows himself to be fooled by the actions of a devious attacker, going out of his way to get contact with a defender and fall over theatrically. We are riding our luck with that one, we got away with the ref spotting Lewandowski's sham penalty claim but how much longer can we depend on having an eagle eyed official to save our skins? Surely one day, the ref will get fooled and award a penalty against us?
Only death will give us peace from all fears.

What are you on about? I was on about us getting to penalties against France. Not giving away a penalty.

SwanVsDalton

07/05/2013, 5:37 PM

Steve Bruce was interviewed on 5Live last night before the Sunderland vs Stoke game by Kevin Kilbane, who asked him about McShane - was full of praise for his character and ability, although he said McShane didn't really trust him. Has manager issues apparently, been let down too many times. Sounds like his faith has been restored though. Lovely stuff.

geysir

07/05/2013, 9:26 PM

What are you on about? I was on about us getting to penalties against France. Not giving away a penalty.
Hard to tell sometimes what you are on about, when you are being sarcastic about a player.

The only way a player behind McShane in that situation, could have controlled the ball, was to foul the ball. It's 3 1/2 years since, let's not get over it, that sounds a great idea:rolleyes: