FAI Junior Cup 2007/08

[inexile]

just goes to show how important a home draw is, havent seen either team but a lot of people were tipping st peters to be a dark horse, while no one even mentioned corduff

[duffbeer]

just goes to show how important a home draw is, havent seen either team but a lot of people were tipping st peters to be a dark horse, while no one even mentioned corduff


Lets face it, its impossible to see anyone other than killester with regard to this years final. its strange.

i noted redcastle conceded one goal in the entire competition.

they must be a side worth looking at closely.

ballyphenane have just won two tough games. ballymun and moville (who are having a good season).

we our selves have a tough game in donegal on sunday, we expect a hard game, but everything is a bonus form here on it. milford travelled to see the game yesterday.

we have got to the last 32 four times and we have made the breakthrough this year so thats that monkey off our backs.

[spcorp]

[quote=duffbeer;864640]I agree, they were awarded two peno's, and missed one of them.

I do think the best team won even if we didn't click up front for most of the game.

we had a stonewall peno turned down and the Peters manager admitted as much.

the two penos were penos and this would show that the referees and linesmen were very fair as you would expect in Dublin.

We however played the better ball, and could have done more damage if the strikers clicked.

St peter's lost there 2 main centre half's and were missing two midfielders for the game, and played as bad as i have ever seen them.. Its a pity because i feel they have an excellent team. Corduff were ok, not a patch on trinity who peters beat last week. Pitch was terrible and the ref and linesmen were a disgrace.. But thats football and life, but of luck to corduff, by what i've seen you'll need it.

[duffbeer]

[quote=duffbeer;864640]I agree, they were awarded two peno's, and missed one of them.

I do think the best team won even if we didn't click up front for most of the game.

we had a stonewall peno turned down and the Peters manager admitted as much.

the two penos were penos and this would show that the referees and linesmen were very fair as you would expect in Dublin.

We however played the better ball, and could have done more damage if the strikers clicked.

St peter's lost there 2 main centre half's and were missing two midfielders for the game, and played as bad as i have ever seen them.. Its a pity because i feel they have an excellent team. Corduff were ok, not a patch on trinity who peters beat last week. Pitch was terrible and the ref and linesmen were a disgrace.. But thats football and life, but of luck to corduff, by what i've seen you'll need it.


Thats odd, you need to look a few entries up to see another St P person who differs wit you.

Referee gave you two penalties, in another county that may not have happened. You missed one. nothing we can do about that.

The pitch wasn't great i'll admit, however with the weather this country has had over the last two weeks, it was in fine shape compared to allot of dublin which didn't go a head.

Trinity are a good side, however like yourselves they too were missing a few bodies the day they travelled to you. Thats something only your selves can control, not the opposition.

To finish i would say we missed quite a few opportunities due to bad shooting. The pitch can be blamed for some of it, but we'll work on that. Maybe with a bit more composure we would have scored a few more. who knows?

Finally, we did our home work on you. malahide told us you bypass your own midfield and go long and effectivly may I say, however when that didn't work too well, your game didn't change much. our midfield bossed the game. thank god they did, our strikers were not up to much and we know it only too well.

we thank you for that wish of luck, thats exactly what you need in this competition.

[abbeyvale]

F**k that i'll think i'll go up there and join them myself for that ! :D Do you think they have any room for a fat over rated fool like myself ? :D

and that you are!!;)

[west awake]

Lets face it, its impossible to see anyone other than killester with regard to this years final. its strange.

i noted redcastle conceded one goal in the entire competition.

they must be a side worth looking at closely.

ballyphenane have just won two tough games. ballymun and moville (who are having a good season).

we our selves have a tough game in donegal on sunday, we expect a hard game, but everything is a bonus form here on it. milford travelled to see the game yesterday.

we have got to the last 32 four times and we have made the breakthrough this year so thats that monkey off our backs.
redcastle have a fine side and even killester would do well 2 win up there,my club west united defeated them on route 2 the last 8 last year,we beat them up there on peno's in the last 64,our midfielder blatantly handled the ball on the line in the last minute at 2-2,which would of put them through,it was amazing the 3 officials all missed it as they were the most biased home town officials we ever encountered on our travels!so they will be a tough nut to crack,but i've backed killester from the start and i'm not changin now but having said that i would hate 2 se them go away 2 redcastle,definate dark horses!

[pass&move]

Don't think this has been posted yet:

Umbro FAI Junior Cup 6th rd
New Ross Celtic 2-2 Grattan Utd
(Grattan won 3-2 on pens)

That's from the Wexford League site.

Watched this game and what a game,Grattan 2 down at the break and worked their socks off to get back level.Into extra time and it was all Grattan who were now feeling the strain of dragging it back from 2 down.Into penos Grattan 1st Missed New Ross score 0-1,Grattan score New Ross score 1-2 after 2,Grattan missed New Ross Missed 1-2 after 3,Grattan score New Ross score 2-3 after 4,Grattan score New Ross missed 3-3 after 5. Sudden Death Grattan score (squeaky bum time) New Ross missed Grattan win 4-3.Thats how I saw it going so I'm off for heart surgery before the next round ( a home tie v castelbar)

Special thanks to all involved with New Ross Celtic who gave us a cracking game and made us feel very welcome especially after the very difficult week they had.

[jimbo]

is it neutral refs for the last 16 lads or do the league still choose the ref?

[corduff_blanch]

Its neutral referees and linesmen, the FAI choose the county they come form (according to their own rules). With serious expense on long trips I think its only fair.

[EAFC_rdfl]

is it up to the clubs to cover the expenses or is it the FAI?

[corduff_blanch]

it doesn't state to be honest, id imagine ti can only be one or two way. home team pays or both divide.

[abbeyvale]

2007/08 FAI Umbro Junior Challenge Cup
7th Round Draw

Milford Utd. V Corduff F.C.

Redcastle F.C. V Ballyphehane Celtic

Grattan Utd. V Castlebar Celtic.

Cherryorchard F.C. or Baldoyle Utd. V Clonmel Town

Trinity Corinthians F.C. V Carrick Utd.

Manorhamilton F.C. V Douglas Hall F.C

St. Michaels F.C. V Crumlin Utd

Killester Utd. or Ballynanty Rovers V Ballina Town


Fixtures to be played week-ending 2nd & 3rd February

[abbeyvale]

2007/08 FAI Umbro Junior Challenge Cup
7th Round Draw

Milford Utd. V Corduff F.C.

Redcastle F.C. V Ballyphehane Celtic

Grattan Utd. V Castlebar Celtic.

Cherryorchard F.C. or Baldoyle Utd. V Clonmel Town

Trinity Corinthians F.C. V Carrick Utd.

Manorhamilton F.C. V Douglas Hall F.C

St. Michaels F.C. V Crumlin Utd

Killester Utd. or Ballynanty Rovers V Ballina Town


Fixtures to be played week-ending 2nd & 3rd February



Predictions to progress to 1/4 finals.
Corduff
Redcastle
Grattan
Clonmel Town
Carrick Utd
Douglas Hall
St.Michaels
Killester

[prionsias9]

Im a Redcastle fan and i know that they are capable of going all the way in the junior cup.Av 7 or 8 top quality players.Will be hard to beat.

[dell hell]

people are saying a lot about redcastle but what have they done,, it seems like hometown refs have gotten them this far.pike imo don't function without sniffer so apart from beating pike have they any pedigree in the fai

[abbeyvale]

people are saying a lot about redcastle but what have they done,, it seems like hometown refs have gotten them this far.pike imo don't function without sniffer so apart from beating pike have they any pedigree in the fai

not yet;)

[prionsias9]

Only our second season in fai junior cup.People can blame officials if they want.We beat Manulla away with their ref.Last season we beat all of the top teams in ulster including Fanad utd.We are out leagues defending champs and look like doing it this year again.We are in a cup final up here as well.But football is football and best team on the day usually wins.

[west awake]

Only our second season in fai junior cup.People can blame officials if they want.We beat Manulla away with their ref.Last season we beat all of the top teams in ulster including Fanad utd.We are out leagues defending champs and look like doing it this year again.We are in a cup final up here as well.But football is football and best team on the day usually wins.i would rate redcastle as good a junior side west united played in the last few years and we played ballynanty,newtown,wfta,howth celtic,castlerea,salthill devon and athenry in the last few years in the fai and from what i've seen redcastle would prob beat them all if not give them a very good game!

[Closing Time]

Im a Redcastle fan and i know that they are capable of going all the way in the junior cup.Av 7 or 8 top quality players.Will be hard to beat.
I think most teams at this stage fancy their chances, but I cannot see anyone getting near Killester. I would say you would need more than 7 or 8 quality players to win the cup due to injury & poor form. How many are currently starting on the Inishowen Oscor Traynor team.

[Closing Time]

Only our second season in fai junior cup.People can blame officials if they want.We beat Manulla away with their ref.Last season we beat all of the top teams in ulster including Fanad utd.We are out leagues defending champs and look like doing it this year again.We are in a cup final up here as well.But football is football and best team on the day usually wins.
Manulla are difficult to beat at home with Ref in toe, but would not be considered a top team in Mayo at the moment. But what I heard you have a decent team and will hold your own against any junior team.

[duffbeer]

Very unfair comments there on redcastle, if you read back on previous games in previous rounds you will find that Pike had absolutley no complaints about officials at their game against redcastle.

a home 3-1 win to redcastle made me take a closer look to find they only conceded one goal so far.

No mean achievement.

And the bookies still havent kopped on to it. they are still on crazy odds.

of course they can have a bad day like anyone and this competition doesn't forgive that like the intermediate does, but they appear to be the real deal.

one question, i heard a very rich fella is behind them, are the players redcastle have the pick of kildrum and fanad and qps etc?

[EAFC_rdfl]

yes there is money behind them, but they won't have the pick of Fanad players, given the 1hr plus distance between the 2. They will have a few from Quigleys Point I'd say and maybe Kildrum, not to mention being close to the border. A team that definitely deserves more respect than its getting on here at the moment IMO

[Closing Time]

yes there is money behind them, but they won't have the pick of Fanad players, given the 1hr plus distance between the 2. They will have a few from Quigleys Point I'd say and maybe Kildrum, not to mention being close to the border. A team that definitely deserves more respect than its getting on here at the moment IMO

Are they paying players?

[Dr Mad]

7 or 8 quality players nowhere near enough.

Killester have a squad of 20 that would get into most other Top Junior Sides.

Plus they are defending champions.

They have been known to choke once or twice in the big games in the past but they seem to have put that behind them now.

Still a banker I.M.O.

[jimbo]

would tend to agree with the doc on this;maybe an away trip to michaels carrick or clonmel would stop killester but outside of that they are too big a price imo

[littleman]

A bit further south maybe,I for one would'nt mind seein how Killester would get on playin in O'Neill Park against the Gratts down in Cork.;)

[inexile]

dr mad to say killester are a banker is going a bit far imho, i have seen them a few times this season and while they are an excellent side they are not unbeatable, no team wins a cup without getting a bit of luck on the way. They are a certainly hot favourites but i wouldnt be putting my mortgage on them especially not in this competition where a combination of an away trip, hometown referee, bad pitch, an off day and opposition rising to the occasion could all conspire against them

[prionsias9]

Its amazing where people get their information from.There is not one player from fanad,kildrum or quigleys point playing for redcastle. most are from the area and the rest have moved into the area.Their boss might have money but believe you me he is not foolish with it.Our players dont get paid,full stop.
At 33/1 it might not be long before we are all rich up here.

[prionsias9]

In reply to the gentleman who asks, how many Redcastle players are in the Inishowen team.Well i have the answer right here in front of me.There was 8 started against Galway two weeks ago and there was 2 on the bench. Against Donegal there were 7 on the team and 3 on the bench. They won both matches.
But that means nothing if you have a bad day.

[duffbeer]

I simply asked the question, I didn't state that they were, i asked. I suppose I am interested to know where they came from as a team/club. As I said their results have been impressive.

Anyone would love a shot of Killester, and no one would fancy a form team like redcastle who they knew very little about.

[prionsias9]

I would like to wish all the smaller clubs success in the next rd.We are a small club and its a great achievement to get this far.Well done everyone including the bigger named clubs.A special good luck to Milford utd.
I heard that the weather forecast is not so good.Pity.It doesnt help either team.:)

[duffbeer]

I would like to wish all the smaller clubs success in the next rd.We are a small club and its a great achievement to get this far.Well done everyone including the bigger named clubs.A special good luck to Milford utd.
I heard that the weather forecast is not so good.Pity.It doesnt help either team.:)


How is the weather in your part of the country, i believe there is some ferocious weather in cluding a storm in the next day or two.

And whats your general view on milford united, they have had a fantastic run and a great win in dungarvin. have you seen milford this year?

[prionsias9]

:)Weather is bad at the minute.But if weather is ok on sun then pitch shud be ok.Dont know much about Milford.They are donegal league. We are Inishowen league.

[jug2004]

forgive me for speaking out of turn here but before i read the posts about redcastle i heard about there team from someone who lives in the area, i had heard that they were backed heavily financially but more importantly had players coming from as far away as derry to play football there, This came from someone who would know there football and seemed to know quiet abit about the league up there and redcastle, so it seems that maybe there are players travelling and there is more to it than meets the eye?? all the same best of luck to them in the remaining rounds, it would be good to see them get killester at home then as everyone seems to talk about killesters great players and redcastles mean defence :D:D

[prionsias9]

jug2004
av you any idea how far it is from redcastle to derry. 8 to 10 miles.redcastle have travelled 10 times that distance in the earlier stages of this cup and were still playing in donegal.

[Dr Mad]

On mature reflection of course inexile is right in that there are many slips that can happen, especially in Junior Cup with away games, questionable refs, etc, etc. Also what is a big disappointment to me is that the overall standard seems to have slipped nationally in the last couple of years. I would agree that Killester are not unbeatable and indeed having participated in the Junior Cup for over 20 years I would say they are one of the weakest champions and would not live with the great Fairview or Cherry Orchard teams for example. However, they are a very very solid side who travel well, have 20 excellent fit and tough players to choose from, have 2 of the most lethal strikers in the country in Lacey and Keogh, pace throughout the side, and the way they structure their first and second teams with guys often doubling up means that they are also a very close and team spirited bunch. On the negative side their back 4 are slow and limited (and in some cases overweight) and can definitely be got at. A team brave enough to go hell for leather at them may get a result.

And by the way absolutely no disrespect intended to Redcastle or any of the other “lesser known” sides left in the competition when I still say Killester will win it (and believe me it hurts to say that).

[smellyfeet]

I think St. Michaels of Tipp are dark horses, if Killester and Michaels were to meet i'd fancy Michaels. I know lacey and Keogh of Killester are probably best strickers in Country at the moment but Michaels have 2 of the best Defenders in Walsh and Breeno too. They have a good understanding between them and are also playing on the Junior/Amateur Intl. team aswell so if these 2 were to meet in Tipp i'd fancy Michaels.

[Closing Time]

I think St. Michaels of Tipp are dark horses, if Killester and Michaels were to meet i'd fancy Michaels. I know lacey and Keogh of Killester are probably best strickers in Country at the moment but Michaels have 2 of the best Defenders in Walsh and Breeno too. They have a good understanding between them and are also playing on the Junior/Amateur Intl. team aswell so if these 2 were to meet in Tipp i'd fancy Michaels.
If so why are they not top of their league. CT going for 5 in a row. Are St. M a cup side. I know they have a great history and always one of the teams to beat in the Junior cup but based on what you are saying surely they should have won their league in the last 4 years or am I missing something.

[smellyfeet]

If so why are they not top of their league. CT going for 5 in a row. Are St. M a cup side. I know they have a great history and always one of the teams to beat in the Junior cup but based on what you are saying surely they should have won their league in the last 4 years or am I missing something.


Just that in my opinion i think Michaels are a good shout. Alright.

[duffbeer]

Any Word On How Bad That Weather Was All Night And Today In Donegal?

[littleman]

No the weather is ****e an will either get worse or just stay ****e.I checked 3 different sites an one even gave me a picture on a web cam of the weather in Moyville an it was'nt very cheerful.Bring a rain jacket a flair a brolly if your goin.Football may take a back seat to the weather again this weekend.

[duffbeer]

No the weather is ****e an will either get worse or just stay ****e.I checked 3 different sites an one even gave me a picture on a web cam of the weather in Moyville an it was'nt very cheerful.Bring a rain jacket a flair a brolly if your goin.Football may take a back seat to the weather again this weekend.

I doubt there is any chance Milford will not allow their pitch go ahead or prehaps move to Letterkenny?

[jug2004]

just because you are not winning your league does not mean that you have what it takes to win the cup, fair enough Michaels have not been winning their league but leagues are based on consistency over a long period of time, when you look at head to head with clonmel town for instance in the bigger games MJC etc which there have been quiet a few of in the past number of years you will see that Michaels have the upper hand. They tend to take their eye off the league for some reason and get caught napping in leser games which costs them, but believe me Michaels should be second favourites to win this cup now with a scatter of international players and are probably the strongest defence left in the comp they are in with the best shout apart from killester i feel. Cup winners are often cuilt on great defences and in Michaels defence (back 4 & keeper) 4 of them have been capped at junior level in the past 5 years. Michaels to have killester in the final i think all going to plan!

[prionsias9]

:)Todays weather was terrible.Rain sleet and wind.Forecast bad for tomorrow.But i think it is to improve over the weekend.Match should go ahead.

[duffbeer]

Lovely, ps: your surname wouldn't be de rossa by any chance would it?

[littleman]

I dont know if i'd agree with ya jugs but thems the joys.Over half of whats left was'nt in last years 16 and for a change their seems to be a lot sides playin very well at the minute.Theirs 3 of us for a change from the rebel HQ in the last 16 an none of them has conceeded many goals.We are'nt lackin behind in the international caps either.

Plenty of fight left in the rest of the country still.

[prionsias9]

:)I dont think da Rossa will be too worried about junior football in donegal or any where else.These teams with supposedly international players. why are they playing junior football?Why are they not playing in the league of ireland.

[carrick hoops]

there is another team in co tipp/co waterford who you (jugs):rolleyes: should not underestimate who have experience of going through the rounds to the final and have learnt more from losing a final than the likes of killester might learn from winning one, against a team who they are comfortable playing and beating in their own league. (bosco, who were relegated , when killester were champs):confused:

[papa-j]

If Killester are going to be mentioned in the same breath as past champions like Farview and Cherry Orchard( honourable mention to Portmarnock too) then they must win it again this year and next year! I think they have it all to prove and show last year was not just a flash in the pan.

By the way I agree that the standard has dropped in terms of the top teams but in fairness there has not been too many era's with teams of the quality of those Fairview and Cherry Orchard sides. On the other hand because there are no real stand out sides, it makes for a more competitive and interesting cup with 5 or 6 teams in with a realistic shout. I think the winner will come from Killester, Michaels, Carrick, Redcastle or Grattan. Sneaky feeling towards Carrick:ball:

[prionsias9]

Does anyone know wots the story about using umbro footballs in these stages of the cup .Does the fai or the sponsors supply them.Heard a rumour that clubs must use umbro footballs and must buy them themselves.Bit unfair.:(