View Full Version : LOI in Europe 2023
pineapple stu
09/08/2023, 5:45 PM
It's a good comparison though - kind of rubs in how far behind we are
EatYerGreens
09/08/2023, 7:25 PM
Over the last few days the fact we have learned is that stadiums are not up to it and something should be done before thinking about anything else. Clubs’ development need a good structure regarding facilities and that should be the prime goal in the short term.
That would be key in improving the football quality in this country and,as we are seeing with other countries, European results.
It’s been depressing to see that Klaksvik have to travel only 30 miles to play their remaining matches this season while Derry City won’t play anymore at their own ground regardless of how much they progress.
That's not true though. The Faroes natiiinal stadium in Torshavn doesn't meet the Category 4 requirements for group stage games. So unless they can get some sort of dispensation or temporary arrangement, Klaksvik are likely to face a hell of an overseas trip for each of their home European group games.
EatYerGreens
09/08/2023, 7:27 PM
Wonder what the pricing will be. I don't think we can charge our usual £25/€29 and expect decent numbers.
Should reduce it to a tenner and get locals in, IMO.
When Dundalk played there, did they get many Dubs going?
Seemed to be quite a few fans of other LOI clubs when Pats played CSKA Sofia at Tallaght last Summer.
Philosophizer
09/08/2023, 7:58 PM
Seemed to be quite a few fans of other LOI clubs when Pats played CSKA Sofia at Tallaght last Summer.
Pats also had a great result in the 1st leg in that tie, which brought plenty of neutrals out too.
I think a lot will depend on the result of the 1st leg. If Derry do well over there I think they’ll have a decent turnout in Tallaght - probably not a full house but maybe 5-6 thousand maybe.
Also, BATE and CSKA would be more familiar names than Tobol Kastanay so they probably aided Dundalk and Pats crowds.
D24Saint
09/08/2023, 8:06 PM
It’s safe to assume that Basel would have attracted much bigger interest from the neutrals.
pateen
09/08/2023, 9:02 PM
It's a 'no' to Windsor. That'll put loads off travelling.
https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/uefa-refuse-derry-city-request-to-play-europa-conference-league-home-tie-at-windsor-park-4249649?fbclid=IwAR2rnMRbo5qe_0nPobSwyqUX791YlkC0h in65GSBSvvtq2dU1ors5vDixbM
That's a real shame
geysir
10/08/2023, 12:03 AM
That's not true though. The Faroes natiiinal stadium in Torshavn doesn't meet the Category 4 requirements for group stage games. So unless they can get some sort of dispensation or temporary arrangement, Klaksvik are likely to face a hell of an overseas trip for each of their home European group games.
In the eventuality of KI reaching a group stage they would likely gain a dispensation for the same reason Faroes can play Nations League and Euro qual games, there's a decent cat 3 available, cat 4 not on option and the huge distance to travel to another federation. Though, mind the fog.
2 Year Contract
10/08/2023, 12:31 AM
Wonder what the pricing will be. I don't think we can charge our usual £25/€29 and expect decent numbers.
Should reduce it to a tenner and get locals in, IMO.
I see they’ve kept the ticket prices the same. Bit of a crazy decision that, you’ll get very little neutrals forking out the guts of 30 quid per ticket to watch that game
joey B
10/08/2023, 12:40 AM
I see they’ve kept the ticket prices the same. Bit of a crazy decision that, you’ll get very little neutrals forking out the guts of 30 quid per ticket to watch that game
That’ll put their own fans off never mind neutrals,madness……
brendy_éire
10/08/2023, 8:43 AM
Oh dear. Such a poor decision from the club. Not entirely surprising, as they've been far too stubborn over European prices since 2017.
The excuse used to be that because capacity was limited, higher prices were justified. That doesn't apply to Tallaght.
A poor result this afternoon, and it'll be a few hundred in Tallaght. Vital that we bring some sort of a result back from Kazakhstan.
D24Saint
10/08/2023, 9:03 AM
I wont bother at those prices tbh. Its different when its your own team but as a neutral I can watch the game online.
sbgawa
10/08/2023, 9:15 AM
30 euros won't get me in to Tallaght to watch Derry.
Seems like a crazy call
Philosophizer
10/08/2023, 9:25 AM
I see they’ve kept the ticket prices the same. Bit of a crazy decision that, you’ll get very little neutrals forking out the guts of 30 quid per ticket to watch that game
Brutal decision. I had estimated 5-6K in attendance if the prices were 20, or maybe even more if the Derry were leading the tie and prices were lower.
At that price they’ll be lucky to get 2-3K.
Another Bohemia
10/08/2023, 9:27 AM
That’ll put their own fans off never mind neutrals,madness……
Wonder how much it will cost a Derry fan to go to the match in tallaght? 30 quid for your match ticket is very steep and I can only speak for Bohs busses but they're usually between 15-20 quid depending on location and number of people who are going. Then food & drink for the day (even if they're non alcoholic beverages) you're probably looking another 15-20 quid per person at least! Could end up being some cost for a "home" leg.
D24Saint
10/08/2023, 9:33 AM
Wonder how much it will cost a Derry fan to go to the match in tallaght? 30 quid for your match ticket is very steep and I can only speak for Bohs busses but they're usually between 15-20 quid depending on location and number of people who are going. Then food & drink for the day (even if they're non alcoholic beverages) you're probably looking another 15-20 quid per person at least! Could end up being some cost for a "home" leg.
Id say Derry and back would have to be €60-70 quid on fuel now. Then take a average family of four the tickets are £70. Its long day out with food and other cost thrown in.
brendy_éire
10/08/2023, 9:39 AM
Probably £25, maybe £30 for a bus. Add on your match ticket, food, and maybe a couple of pints; you're not getting much change from a hundred quid.
Combined with needing half a day off work and eight hours of travelling midweek, the appeal begins to wear off.
Another Bohemia
10/08/2023, 9:46 AM
Probably £25, maybe £30 for a bus. Add on your match ticket, food, and maybe a couple of pints; you're not getting much change from a hundred quid.
Combined with needing half a day off work and eight hours of travelling midweek, the appeal begins to wear off.
Probably unlikely considering the ticket prices but would the club look at running subsidised busses? A good support could make a big difference in a tight game
brendy_éire
10/08/2023, 10:52 AM
Probably unlikely considering the ticket prices but would the club look at running subsidised busses? A good support could make a big difference in a tight game
Couldn't see them doing that. Not even sure how much of a difference it would make, in all likelihood.
If there's nothing to play for, few will be bothered going. In that case, I'd suggest we should put out the youth players and save the main squad for the cup match against Pat's on the Sunday.
More generally, don't know why clubs don't do joint match/transport tickets though. Different levels, but the Germans have it sussed. A joint cup final/rail ticket can't be that difficult to organise?
EatYerGreens
10/08/2023, 11:28 AM
More generally, don't know why clubs don't do joint match/transport tickets though. Different levels, but the Germans have it sussed. A joint cup final/rail ticket can't be that difficult to organise?
The difference being that you can actually get to wherever you want to easily by train in Germany. You can't even do Galway to Sligo by train without having to go way over to Mullingar and change, and there aren't that many trains a day going from there to Sligo anyway. Plus trains here don't run 'late', so even for fixtures that it would be possible to get to by train you'd have to leave way before the end of the game to get the last service home. The last train from Dublin Connolly to Sligo on a Friday is at 8:50pm, for example. So you'd get to see about 5mins max of an 8pm KO at Tallaght Stadium before you had to rush to get the Luas up to Connolly.
Then there's getting a combined match and train ticket to Ballybofey :D
EalingGreen
10/08/2023, 12:59 PM
The difference being that you can actually get to wherever you want to easily by train in Germany.Not just the trains. I was in Freiburg on holiday a while back and it coincided with Freiburg SC having a home Bundesliga match. Bought a match ticket and then found out that it also brought free travel on the trams to and from the city centre to the stadium, which was out in the suburbs. (They've since moved to a new stadium in another area out by the local airport, but I daresay the same applies).
lofty9
10/08/2023, 1:01 PM
I'd have brought the clan at league prices, but with travel etc they can GTF at £25. Big own goal leaving a bad taste.
EalingGreen
10/08/2023, 1:10 PM
Probably unlikely considering the ticket prices but would the club look at running subsidised busses? Why knock, say, €10-15 off the cost of buses when they could instead knock €10-15 off the price of the match ticket? After all, the latter might encourage more neutrals in Dublin to come along, too.
My own guess is that the club wants to establish €25-30 as the price for European football, especially since they can expect most of their European games still to be in the Brandywell, especially if/when it gets redeveloped, and with sell-out crowds anyhow.
Whereas if they reduce match ticket prices for this (and other) games in the meantime, then when it comes to future big European games at home, fans will say: "What? It's €30? It wasn't that much the last time."
Remember, it's not like buying something in a shop, where if you think a product is too dear, you can go to another shop - DCFC have got the monopoly.
EDIT: When you add in that DCFC don't have to pay 20% in VAT for the game in Tallaght, those prices are further taking the p1ss (imo). They could easily make a point of announcing €20/24 i.e. arrived at by deducting 20% from the "regular" €25/29 price. That would be another subtle reminder of why they have to charge so much at the Brandywell, with a further dig at the Brits into the bargain! ;)
MichaelCherrito
10/08/2023, 1:22 PM
Any links for today´s match apart from the one Solidsport is providing for the paltry amount of 15 euros?
pateen
10/08/2023, 1:54 PM
Balls, not on LOI TV
pateen
10/08/2023, 2:11 PM
Jesus that commentator is kak hard to understand.
Jamaican English is easier to understand than this guy .... no jokes.
Tobol with 2 yellows already which I missed but in the last 10 they've had 3 more challenges which should have resulted in a 3 more.
Mostly Tobol possession but Derry not under the cosh or anything. Have been able to string a couple passes together at different stages too without any final third penetration.
Seems like Derry just need to sit back and pounce on the mistakes when they come.
Philosophizer
10/08/2023, 2:57 PM
Following it on Derry’s twitter page and looks like Tobol should have had a red too.
Derry need to keep their heads and not get drawn into a scrap. Keep calm and let Tobol keep fouling and sooner or later one of them might get sent off. Then you’ve a great chance to win it.
sbgawa
10/08/2023, 2:59 PM
If Derry can keep the match alive they would be better off charging €10 into Tallaght and filling the place it will be the same revenue as the approx €30 they are charging when only a couple of thousend show up.
Fill the place and create an atmosphere, it might help them win!!
With the capacity in Tallght going to 10000 next season i will be shocked if Rovers dont try something similer maybe 15 though......capacity has to play a part in this
geysir
10/08/2023, 3:02 PM
Any links for today´s match apart from the one Solidsport is providing for the paltry amount of 15 euros?
This one works, adblock on, and reload from main page when required, very good quality.
click on the first match link 95%
.http://livetv.sx/enx/eventinfo/146783519_tobol_derry_city/#_
With Derry's Ryan McBride Stadium not meeting requirements for the second leg on 17th August, what are these requirements other than capacity and seating facilities? :confused:
Big chance for Tobol the and Maher did the business in the 1v1.
Derry get there best chance a moment later but the ball wouldn't break kindly.
McMullen is a step above the rest of the Derry players, seriously impressive dribbling from him this evening.
That's some strike from the left back in fairness. Don't stop those.
joey B
10/08/2023, 3:26 PM
Great strike that.....
Philosophizer
10/08/2023, 3:27 PM
If they can keep it tight and come home with the tie still alive that’s not too bad.
Game has opened up a little bit which I don't think will suit Derry.
Thought Derry had a pen but Patching booked for a dive which was probably the right decision.
McEleney has made a difference for Derry with the ball but they are finding it too hard to get it back.
joey B
10/08/2023, 3:40 PM
What a chance for Duffy there....
MichaelCherrito
10/08/2023, 3:40 PM
What a chance for Duffy.
Poor clearance by the keeper and the ball fell to Duffy, one on one and he hit the side netting.
Match quite open now since the goal.
holidaysong
10/08/2023, 3:40 PM
Oh that miss from Duffy could be costly. Need to take those gifts when they come.
Diallo has had a monster performance in the second half.
paul_oshea
10/08/2023, 3:55 PM
Dundalk 2.0 have played good football bar the away leg in the Faroe Islands. Deserved a draw out of this game and Duffy should have made sure of it, very poor ref.
A few of the tobol players looked out on their feet and they arent that great of a side. Getting out straight after the game and back home gives them a very good chance of winning the home leg - based off what Tobol showed tonight.
Philosophizer
10/08/2023, 4:00 PM
Watched the last 15 mins. Tobol are a high energy pressing team all right. They’re v robust, and Derry didn’t like it much. the ref didn’t give Derry much, but they didn’t help themselves either
- lots of aimless and wayward passing. Maybe it was tiredness after a long flight.
1 goal deficit isn’t great but at least the tie is alive for Tallaght, so the crowd shouldn’t be too dire.
You’d have to make Tobol favourites to go through.
ger121
10/08/2023, 4:07 PM
Did not see or follow the game but at 1-0 they are well in the tie and that is what you would have been hoping for. Could be an interesting night in Tallaght next week.
joey B
10/08/2023, 4:20 PM
Watched the second half on that dodgy stream! Pitch looked atrocious ,players slipping and sliding everywhere,Tallaght will probably suit both sides better,tie is still open enough I'd say,first goal next week will obviously be huge .....
Philosophizer
10/08/2023, 5:21 PM
Weird pitch all right. Players slipping a lot but my first impression when I saw Derry training pics on twitter yesterday eve was that the grass looked very long…
I guess the Kazakhs were at shenanigans with the pitch to make the most of their home advantage.
Philosophizer
10/08/2023, 5:24 PM
Meanwhile, Derrys home advantage will involve hosting the game 4 hrs from their home, and pricing people out of tickets. Total facepalm!
pineapple stu
10/08/2023, 5:29 PM
Plzen 2-0 up in Gzira after 20 minutes, so seems clear enough who Derry/Tobol will play next.
joey B
10/08/2023, 5:49 PM
Rosenburg who squeaked past Crusaders in extra time last week are 2 up on Hearts in the first half....
joey B
10/08/2023, 6:44 PM
Dundalk fans can comfort themselves in seeing their Icelandic friends getting hammered already by Brugge,4 down at half time....
I dare say Dundalk could have been on the end of the same.
pineapple stu
10/08/2023, 6:44 PM
Hearts pull one back; life in that for the second leg
KA 3-0 down against Club Brugge coming up to halftime; another side who beat LoI opposition not doing great in the next tie
Currently at the Rapid Wien v Debrecen match kicking off shortly. Rob Hennessy in charge. This will be interesting!
Edit - Brugge make it 4-0 before halftime
Philosophizer
10/08/2023, 7:03 PM
Currently at the Rapid Wien v Debrecen match kicking off shortly. Rob Hennessy in charge. This will be interesting!
Enjoy Stu!
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