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nigel-harps1954
19/09/2023, 10:37 AM
RTE have Rugby World Cup games on the Friday night, Saturday at 14:00 & 16:45, Sunday at 16:45 & 20:00. Virgin have the Ireland match on the Saturday evening too.
Maybe Virgin will take one of the Semi Finals on Friday night and RTE take the other one at around 14:00 on the Sunday. Or maybe RTE could go with the Saturday night slot but I can’t imagine they’d go head to head with Ireland playing rugby
Could be wrong on this, but aren't RTÉ contracted to show both semi-finals and the final?
gufc4life
19/09/2023, 10:42 AM
Cork City home or away please
2 Year Contract
19/09/2023, 10:43 AM
Could be wrong on this, but aren't RTÉ contracted to show both semi-finals and the final?
Not sure, I think they usually agree on how many games they show in a year (approx 18 games I think but that might not be up to date for 2023) and they usually show the semi finals and final as 3 of the 18 but as mentioned in the thread, in 2021 they only showed one of the semi finals due to some sort of scheduling clash which I can’t remember off the top of my head
Jack B
19/09/2023, 11:51 AM
Cork vs Pats
Galway vs Bohs
I really feel like Bohs should be winning it this year so was hoping to get them at home as that was our best chance. Not a great draw but we are better than Cork so should be getting through. Galway getting the home draw makes that one very interesting.
ger121
19/09/2023, 11:51 AM
So Cork at home to Pat’s and Bohs away in Galway. Two very interesting matches.
El-Pietro
19/09/2023, 11:53 AM
We werent keen on playing any of you, Pats are probably the best of the bunch, but we'll take the home draw and hope we get some luck.
A Dublin derby final seems the most likely outcome from here, but who knows.
2 Year Contract
19/09/2023, 11:58 AM
Longford away, Derry away, Finn Harps away, Cork away. That’s got to be some sort of record for consecutive poxy distances accumulated over an FAI Cup draw
El-Pietro
19/09/2023, 12:00 PM
Longford away, Derry away, Finn Harps away, Cork away. That’s got to be some sort of record for poxy distances accumulated over an FAI Cup draw
We played Treaty in the first round and have been home every round since. Hoping for one trip outside Munster to come.
pateen
19/09/2023, 12:17 PM
Cork vs Pats
Galway vs Bohs
I really feel like Bohs should be winning it this year so was hoping to get them at home as that was our best chance. Not a great draw but we are better than Cork so should be getting through. Galway getting the home draw makes that one very interesting.
Nice. Have a soft spot for Galway so glad were not meeting
nigel-harps1954
19/09/2023, 12:27 PM
Longford away, Derry away, Finn Harps away, Cork away. That’s got to be some sort of record for consecutive poxy distances accumulated over an FAI Cup draw
Harps had Belgrove, Wexford, Avondale and Pats all away in 2014 en route to the semi final.
joey B
19/09/2023, 1:08 PM
Could see upsets in both them games,Pats probably happier to be away in Cork than Galway though …
Galway will fancy their chances at home for sure…..
2 Year Contract
19/09/2023, 2:21 PM
Galway Bohs expected to be on the Saturday and Cork Pats on the Sunday. The Friday slot taken by rugby World Cup
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/11361658/fai-cup-semi-final-draw/
ger121
19/09/2023, 3:12 PM
Galway vs Bohs is Saturday. 2:40pm KO.
2 Year Contract
19/09/2023, 3:33 PM
Galway vs Bohs is Saturday. 2:40pm KO.
And Cork vs Pats is Sunday 2:40pm
Both games live on RTE One
joey B
19/09/2023, 5:02 PM
What allocation of tickets would Pats expect to get?
EatYerGreens
19/09/2023, 5:17 PM
Galway-Bohs pretty much guaranteed to sell out.
Cork-Pats could and should sell out, but is a tougher task. When was the last time Turners Cross had a full house?
It funny that all 4 clubs are probably happy enough with the draw.
Both stadiums will be full and look great on TV. Having the underdogs at home will even up the contest somewhat.
Given how average Dundalk looked it's given me real belief that there isn't too much between GUFC and the mid table premier teams.
Really excited for these games.
What allocation of tickets would Pats expect to get?
Prob b about 600 for pats and Bohs will get 400
Wouldn’t think many Galway tickets will b available online most direct to coop members and season tickets
D24Saint
19/09/2023, 8:13 PM
Back to back trips to Cork. I suppose there are worse fates. It will be tough game in the semi. I’d expect a big atmosphere.
Martinho II
19/09/2023, 8:58 PM
And Cork vs Pats is Sunday 2:40pm
Both games live on RTE One
Maybe I missed out on earlier posts but why the afternoon KOs times in cup semis?
El-Pietro
19/09/2023, 9:09 PM
Galway-Bohs pretty much guaranteed to sell out.
Cork-Pats could and should sell out, but is a tougher task. When was the last time Turners Cross had a full house?
We got over 6k for a game against Galway last July in the first division
5500 for the final game of last season against Bray. I cant remember but assume that was the trophy presentation night.
6500 on the first night of the season this year vs Bohs.
holidaysong
19/09/2023, 9:26 PM
Maybe I missed out on earlier posts but why the afternoon KOs times in cup semis?
Due to RTÉ showing the Rugby World Cup.
ger121
19/09/2023, 9:26 PM
Any of the Galway lads happen to know how many tickets we are likely to be given? Not exactly sure what the current capacity of the stadium is.
El-Pietro
19/09/2023, 9:58 PM
Any of the Galway lads happen to know how many tickets we are likely to be given? Not exactly sure what the current capacity of the stadium is.
I think they gave us about 3-400ish last season when we had a chance to win the first division.
WoodquayBoy
19/09/2023, 10:09 PM
Capacity is 4,300 under licensing, even though ground can safely take more than that.
Likely to have around a 10% allocation for away fans which might include ‘buffer zone’ seats so probably in the region on 400 tickets for Bohs
Nesta99
20/09/2023, 2:58 AM
Capacity is 4,300 under licensing, even though ground can safely take more than that.
Likely to have around a 10% allocation for away fans which might include ‘buffer zone’ seats so probably in the region on 400 tickets for Bohs
I'll be needlessly fussy on this comment - if the SHC could safely be increased if it was able to. If I recall there are limited turnstyles to open for emergency egress, and a fairly small concourse for fans to exit to (behind clubs rooms) and then to walk to the concourse of the 2nd(main?) stand. In an emergency x number of people need to be evacuated per y time and the capacity is reduced until this requirement is met, So it cant really be said that the ground can safely take more, only that it can take more. If remedial work is done then the full safe capacity increases to actual capacity level. Achievable and if there is a solid attendance average next season above 70% that it would be time to conssider a third stand in an already good ground that I like going to
nigel-harps1954
20/09/2023, 10:46 AM
Galway are really snookered with the location of the ground. Having all exit points straight out onto the Dyke Road would probably mean there's not a whole lot extra can be put there without buying up part of the land the water works is on or some of the houses out the back end of the ground for a new access point.
JC_GUFC
20/09/2023, 1:30 PM
Galway are really snookered with the location of the ground. Having all exit points straight out onto the Dyke Road would probably mean there's not a whole lot extra can be put there without buying up part of the land the water works is on or some of the houses out the back end of the ground for a new access point.
Although ultimately everyone ends up on the Dyke Road there are 4 main exits from the ground itself.
The double gates onto Dyke Road beside the clubhouse, the away fans entrance at one side of the old stand, the home fans entrance at the other end of that stand and then a gate to the carpark from the side the new stand is on.
I'm not sure what is looked at by the Health & Safety officers but I would imagine something could be done to meet requirements for an increased safe capacity which wouldn't be too drastic.
I'd imagine the carpark could be used as an emergency evacuation point but again I don't know about these things.
It's not something that's going to be resolved before the semi-final and probably not before next season, and as someone has said it's no harm having a somewhat restricted capacity to build the hype. All the talk from both sets of fans since the draw is how and when are tickets going to be distributed. Next season in the League there could be a few games which will be sell outs or close to it and if we're doing well there could be the case that most home games are close to sell outs.
We're probably lucky in that having the Waterworks located next to the ground means there is land there which possibly could be purchased if a new stand or access route was required and potentially a car park could be built on the other side of the Dyke Road - I would imagine residential planning on that side of the road would be nigh-on impossible due to flooding risk.
WoodquayBoy
20/09/2023, 2:46 PM
I'll be needlessly fussy on this comment - if the SHC could safely be increased if it was able to. If I recall there are limited turnstyles to open for emergency egress, and a fairly small concourse for fans to exit to (behind clubs rooms) and then to walk to the concourse of the 2nd(main?) stand. In an emergency x number of people need to be evacuated per y time and the capacity is reduced until this requirement is met, So it cant really be said that the ground can safely take more, only that it can take more. If remedial work is done then the full safe capacity increases to actual capacity level. Achievable and if there is a solid attendance average next season above 70% that it would be time to conssider a third stand in an already good ground that I like going to
I should have said “comfortably take more” as opposed to “safely”, but at the same time, there are 4 main exits as JC GUFC says, as well as turnstiles, but yeah, “comfortably” take more was what I should have said
nigel-harps1954
20/09/2023, 5:03 PM
Problem with four main exits, is that they all ultimately end up in the same place once you step outside the ground. It's a similar problem the likes of Pats or Dundalk face. You can't direct anyone out to another road, or separate entrance/exit point.
bohsmug
20/09/2023, 5:44 PM
Problem with four main exits, is that they all ultimately end up in the same place once you step outside the ground. It's a similar problem the likes of Pats or Dundalk face. You can't direct anyone out to another road, or separate entrance/exit point.
Saw this pic on tripadvisor and it does highlight the challenge: https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/14/5e/49/ca/eamonn-deacy-park-home.jpg?w=1200&h=-1&s=1
(pic wouldn't embed in the post for some reason)
joey B
20/09/2023, 5:47 PM
Saw this pic on tripadvisor and it does highlight the challenge: https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/14/5e/49/ca/eamonn-deacy-park-home.jpg?w=1200&h=-1&s=1
(pic wouldn't embed in the post for some reason)
https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/14/5e/49/ca/eamonn-deacy-park-home.jpg?w=1200&h=-1&s=1
Nesta99
21/09/2023, 11:26 AM
Problem with four main exits, is that they all ultimately end up in the same place once you step outside the ground. It's a similar problem the likes of Pats or Dundalk face. You can't direct anyone out to another road, or separate entrance/exit point.
Exactly and hence the size of a concourse/carpark/street at egress points being a big consideraton. In a panic situation, evacuating people from one place to where a large crowd is quickly gathering could be as much a concern as the reason for a rapid evacuation and when packed crowds panic its truly terrifying to state the obvious and when people turn around and head back toward the evacuated area, which they when the see a crowd congested area will do and well then yer up against multiple flash points. The picture shows perectly the potential choke points outside.
I have a quiet nervous smile whenever I see evacuation drills carried out, everyones nice and calm and stream out in a nice orderly queue. If you want to see how real crowds will behave, have 4000 people in ED Park and announce that the first 100 people out through the emergency exits get a free season ticket next year, or even a few free beers, never mind €500 or whatever, and then ye get something like a real emergency crowd profile!!
Ive mentioned on here before that this sort of thing is something I do have a particular interest in, seen things Id rather not have related to such stuff in the day job and am fussy to a fault on the topic - and I hate retrspective rather than proactive action on potential emergencies ala Grenfell Towers stuff. - too much information but hey.
The good thing is that there is scope to increase SHC from what I can see. Looking for right of passage in event of emergency evacuation . through that nice piece of green land between housing at the rear of the Main Stand and that green area behind tv gantry stand. Maybe egress only is possible via those housing areas east and south. Maybe get the paws on that parcel of land at club house end, move grounds interior car park to there and not only is it a big enough rally point away from the ground but the area behind that goal would be ideal for installing a modular stand (with addition exits tha end).
Galway still being in the cup surely mean that there is sufficient relevence to this thread rather than stadium development one.....
Neish
21/09/2023, 11:48 AM
Saw this pic on tripadvisor and it does highlight the challenge: https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/14/5e/49/ca/eamonn-deacy-park-home.jpg?w=1200&h=-1&s=1
(pic wouldn't embed in the post for some reason)
That also could be an issue at the new Finn Harps stadium when ever its up and running (sometime in the 2050's I'd say)
bohsmug
21/09/2023, 3:50 PM
Galway still being in the cup surely mean that there is sufficient relevence to this thread rather than stadium development one.....
Yes... just about :D
On the basis that far more people are going to want to go to the semi final than will be able to. Roughly 400 away tickets.... twitter will be alight with complaints from individuals who don't get tickets. I'm a member and I'll be logging in the second they're available but given that I did the same for the Drogheda cup game and was unsuccessful, I'll be unlikely to get there. Reasonable chance that away fans will try snap up home tickets too and all the fallout that creates. So yeah... we're sort of, possibly, just about, loosely on topic (maybe).
Galway Bohs game sold out.
joey B
27/09/2023, 3:22 PM
Sam Curtis red card appeal rejected and will miss the semi final,blow for Pats that….
EatYerGreens
27/09/2023, 5:18 PM
Galway Bohs game sold out.
Tremendous demand. Is that before going on public sale?
joey B
27/09/2023, 5:42 PM
They were on public sale at the match on Monday,don’t think you needed a season ticket to buy them but open to correction….
They were on public sale at the match on Monday,don’t think you needed a season ticket to buy them but open to correction….
There was fair distribution of tickets in 3 phases
1 Season ticket holders
2 Co-op members
3 Home fans on Monday night 2 per person an all phases
Tickets totally sold out now unfortunately none available to sell on Friday nights game
Some fans would have missed out but showed the potential of the crowds with 3900 gone in a few hours with 400 to bohs
ger121
07/10/2023, 1:56 PM
Not a chance the attendance in that ground is 4200. Looks a lot more.
Extremely harsh pair of yellow cards for Radkowski.
Not sure if Galway will have the quality to make the extra man pay but should make for a decent end to the game.
ger121
07/10/2023, 3:06 PM
That was a shocker but I said it to someone in the 1st half, we’d be lucky to finish with 11 with the amount of bookings. Big 25 minutes left.
Shinkicker
07/10/2023, 3:07 PM
Not a chance the attendance in that ground is 4200. Looks a lot more.
Neil Doyle is destroying the game. It's edgy and physical was always going to be that way, that's the way semi finals are. Some yellows given for some very soft challenges. The red was the worst decision. The lino was close and should have saw that and intervened.
SeanDrog
07/10/2023, 3:08 PM
That was a shocker but I said it to someone in the 1st half, we’d be lucky to finish with 11 with the amount of bookings. Big 25 minutes left.
Ref has very dire and it just a matter of time for a sending off.
Shinkicker
07/10/2023, 3:11 PM
Ref has very dire and it just a matter of time for a sending off.
Galway player should have walked for the challenge on Connolly
Another Bohemia
07/10/2023, 3:15 PM
Galway player should have walked for the challenge on Connolly
Absolutely, Bucko was booked for the same type of foul. No consistency and some truly shocking decisions throughout the game
redobit
07/10/2023, 3:20 PM
Caulfield teams are a hard watch.
ontheotherhand
07/10/2023, 3:41 PM
Caulfield teams are a hard watch.
Devine's aren't much better.
Poor game, but Bohs won’t care. Thought Galway were disappointing. No real quality about them.
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