Bray statement

[Charlie Darwin]

He's not, he's a seaside apartment blocks man.

[EatYerGreens]

So have the club just announced the person they plan to build flats on land they don't own and who's owner won't sell it to them ?

[pineapple stu]

I don't think they announced anything.

The article is here (https://fora.ie/bray-wanderers-carlisle-grounds-develop-3709078-Nov2017/). It looks like it's just referring to the North Korea statements earlier in the year.

[littlebray]

It looks like it's just referring to the North Korea statements earlier in the year.

You got it, there's nothing new in this, it's a re-hash and the Ronan reference is historic.

[Martinho II]

This wasnt answered in my earlier question. Who on earth is Fora?

[Eminence Grise]

Owned by TheJournal.

http://www.thejournal.ie/fora-launch-business-site-journal-2688407-Mar2016/

[Mr A]

Here is the piece: https://fora.ie/bray-wanderers-carlisle-grounds-develop-3709078-Nov2017/

Serious promises there..

[nigel-harps1954]

I think it's funny how they keep referencing a Katie Taylor 'equivalent in soccer', when she's already an established footballer in her own right.

[sbgawa]

It's sad that a lot club is being run by these complete muppets

[Mr A]

Rumblings of something coming out of Bray soon, have heard no details but implication was it wasn't overly positive.

[total hoofball]

Keith Buckley was having a good go earlier at the Bray twitter account over not receiving any contact from the club or hearing anything about when training starting back

[The Fox]

What I can see on his Twitter is that Conor Kenna and Liam O'Brien are the new management team.
Unless he is being sarcastic?
If it is true, it is to be welcomed as we need to be signing players to catch up with other teams that have been much more active - we already down 5 or 6 players, with no one new in!

[Charlie Darwin]

He was joking about Kenna.

He's referring to this: https://twitter.com/bloodbuckley66/status/940162224634679297

[sbgawa]

Galway back up for next year
Handy 9 points for rovers :)

[IsMiseSean]

Galway back up for next year
Handy 9 points for rovers :)

Should guarantee ye another 3rd place finish.

[sbgawa]

Should guarantee ye another 3rd place finish.

Quality banter :)
best away trip in the league even without the 3 points, although its been so long I've kind of forgotten the feeling of coming back from Galway without the points.

[IsMiseSean]

Quality banter :)
best away trip in the league even without the 3 points, although its been so long I've kind of forgotten the feeling of coming back from Galway without the points.

I've got nothing. It will end eventually, hopefully in our lifetime :)

[gufct]

Rumours all over the internet that bray won’t be in the league next year absolute jokeshop if this happens after we have lost players who would have stayed if we were in the premier.

The Fai are an absolute disaster

[gufcfan]

Interesting tweet from Bray a few minutes ago


The fixtures for the 2018 SSE Airtricity League season will be released on December 19th. With 36 league games in the PREMIER DIVISION next season, our season will kick off on Friday, February 16th.

https://twitter.com/BrayWanderers/status/941048184138293248

Emphasis on "PREMIER DIVISION" theirs, not mine.

[Seagull]

Interview with Denis O'Connor (he hasn't gone away you know) in today's Bray People. Unfortunately he's the one in charge of Bray's licence application. He has the poor mouth on saying Bray will be scrutinised more than most after last season but there's nothing in to say he's not expecting to get a Premier licence. More moans about the Carlisle Grounds, the pitch (which funny enough used to be one of the best in the country) and the lack of support through the stiles. Anyway, for those wishing Galway back up, don't forget they were asking their season ticket holders to pay through the stiles at the end of last season.

[mcgonigle]

Anyway, for those wishing Galway back up, don't forget they were asking their season ticket holders to pay through the stiles at the end of last season.

Far be it from a Dundalk fan to defend Galway but maybe that was because they were likely to be relegated and spotted a good opportunity to boost the coffers before the graveyard. Which you could link to the unscrupulous dealings of other clubs

[sbgawa]

Interview with Denis O'Connor (he hasn't gone away you know) in today's Bray People. Unfortunately he's the one in charge of Bray's licence application. He has the poor mouth on saying Bray will be scrutinised more than most after last season but there's nothing in to say he's not expecting to get a Premier licence. More moans about the Carlisle Grounds, the pitch (which funny enough used to be one of the best in the country) and the lack of support through the stiles. Anyway, for those wishing Galway back up, don't forget they were asking their season ticket holders to pay through the stiles at the end of last season.

Trying to get in a few bob in season tickets before they fold their tent

[gufct]

I’m a season ticket holder with gufc the club asked people to pay in for one night which was voluntary most people paid in because gufc is their club owned and run by the fans.

Sligo also asked their supporters to do the same thing last season when they had a cash flow problem.

[poster]

Sligo also asked their supporters to do the same thing last season when they had a cash flow problem.

No they didn't. It was a suggestion from the supporters trust.

[Oldred]

I’m a season ticket holder with gufc the club asked people to pay in for one night which was voluntary most people paid in because gufc is their club owned and run by the fans.

Sligo also asked their supporters to do the same thing last season when they had a cash flow problem.

No. The supporters decided to do this themselves and were not asked by the Club to do so.

[KBurke]

To be honest, as a Galway fan if Bray were not to get a premier license and get send to the 1st Division I would hope we would refuse the offer of a place in the Premier. With the players lost etc we would only be cannon fodder for the other 9 teams who would be well ahead in their planning for the season.
It could do more harm than good for the club especially in it's new fan owned state.

[cobhlad]

To be honest, as a Galway fan if Bray were not to get a premier license and get send to the 1st Division I would hope we would refuse the offer of a place in the Premier.
#MoreFunInTheFirst

[Mr A]

There is a massive difference between a club like Galway having to fundraise at the end of the year to cover a shortfall and the absolute lunacy that has been going on in Bray.

If Denis O Conor is the applicant one would wonder whether a license would be granted. Applicants have to be fully tax compliant and Denis has made a few appearances in Stubb's gazette. Not sure of full details or whether they would impact tax compliance but potentially there could be issues there. There certainly would be if we had a functioning fit and proper persons test.

[sbgawa]

To be honest, as a Galway fan if Bray were not to get a premier license and get send to the 1st Division I would hope we would refuse the offer of a place in the Premier. With the players lost etc we would only be cannon fodder for the other 9 teams who would be well ahead in their planning for the season.
It could do more harm than good for the club especially in it's new fan owned state.


Youd be nuts not to take the place in the premier if youavoid bottom place you at least have a playoff to stay in the division,
Play in division 1 next season , lower gates less money and maybe at the end of the season you miss out on a playoff spot.....

[KBurke]

Youd be nuts not to take the place in the premier if youavoid bottom place you at least have a playoff to stay in the division,
Play in division 1 next season , lower gates less money and maybe at the end of the season you miss out on a playoff spot.....

That's kinda the point, if the team isn't good enough to get a play off spot in the first division it's hardly not going to come last in the premier.

Getting beaten every week would also lead to lower gates and less money.

[osarusan]

To be honest, as a Galway fan if Bray were not to get a premier license and get send to the 1st Division I would hope we would refuse the offer of a place in the Premier. With the players lost etc we would only be cannon fodder for the other 9 teams who would be well ahead in their planning for the season.
It could do more harm than good for the club especially in it's new fan owned state.

Madness, never ever turn down a spot in the top division.

[Mr A]

Can see both sides of the argument. Going up when plans are well in train for a first division campaign will be hugely difficult. But so is getting out of the first division.

[EatYerGreens]

That's kinda the point, if the team isn't good enough to get a play off spot in the first division it's hardly not going to come last in the premier.

Getting beaten every week would also lead to lower gates and less money.

But if the logic and expectation is that if the team isn't good enough for a play-off spot, then crowds would undoubtedly be lower in the First watching a team going nowhere than in the Premier watching a team trying to avoid the drop. Crowds are always worse in the First Division than they are in the Premier Division for any team that isn't challenging for promotion. Plus you can't charge as much for tickets either, so a double hit to your income.

[total hoofball]

Bray and Drogheda were both relegated in 2009 and 2010 respectively and ended up back in the Premier Division the following season due to other clubs going bust (Cork City and Sporting Fingal)

Both Bray and Drogheda finished 2nd bottom in 9th spot in their reprieve seasons, Bray surviving a penalty shootout in a play-off against Monaghan and Drogheda didn't have any play-offs to worry about that season. Once both clubs survived that unexpected Premier Division season they did ok, Drogheda even finished in 2nd spot in 2012

You could understand why Galway would be a bit reluctant if the same reprieve as Bray & Drogheda happened as they would probably finish 9th or 10th but the First Division isn't called the graveyard for nothing any club should take any opportunity given to them to get away from it by any means necessary (aside from the spending stupid sums of money thing obviously).

[sbgawa]

its not ideal obviously but if Galway did get a reprieve they could still get in a few extra players between now and start of season,
Will take time to bed them in but a slow start doesn't man relegation....ask Pats and Sligo

[KBurke]

its not ideal obviously but if Galway did get a reprieve they could still get in a few extra players between now and start of season,
Will take time to bed them in but a slow start doesn't man relegation....ask Pats and Sligo

It was our slow start than contributed to our relegation

[Mr A]

its not ideal obviously but if Galway did get a reprieve they could still get in a few extra players between now and start of season,
Will take time to bed them in but a slow start doesn't man relegation....ask Pats and Sligo

A slow start doesn't mean relegation especially when you can invest heavily in July. Which Galway probably wouldn't be able to do.

[redobit]

One match playoff between Galway and Cobh!

[Mr A]

One match playoff between Galway and Cobh!

On Christmas.

[Philosophizer]

Keith Buckley desperately trying to get his 2 year contract at Bray cancelled prematurely, and a return to Bohs would be his preferred option apparently...
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1947566/keith-buckley-wants-to-leave-bray-wanderers-even-if-jose-mourinho-is-appointed-boss/

“We have no manager and no players. Who is going to want to sign for a club like that? “If someone signs for Bray next season it will be because it is their last choice, not their first choice.

“I’m looking for my contract to be cancelled so I can walk away. I’m not looking to be paid up. But they’ve told me that’s not possible.
“Even if Jose Mourinho is the new manager and they were going to pay me €10,000 a week, I wouldn’t want to be here. I don’t care who likes that or doesn’t.

"Aaron Greene, Kevin Lynch, Darragh Noone and Jake Ellis are the other players under contract and, with the possible exception of Ellis, Buckley says they want to leave too."

[Seagull]

From Facebook:
Breaking News :Millway Dawn Ltd under the Stewardship of Mr Mulvey and Denis O'Connor try to sell the Company to Garret Kelleher of St Pats
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1953116/st-patricks-athletic-boss-garrett-kelleher-rejected-chance-to-buy-bray-wanderers/

[Mr A]

It would have been the most #GreatestLeagueInTheWorld moment ever if all the shenanigans in Bray resulted in Pat's going bust.

[bluemovie]

Bray and Drogheda were both relegated in 2009 and 2010 respectively and ended up back in the Premier Division the following season due to other clubs going bust (Cork City and Sporting Fingal)

Both Bray and Drogheda finished 2nd bottom in 9th spot in their reprieve seasons, Bray surviving a penalty shootout in a play-off against Monaghan and Drogheda didn't have any play-offs to worry about that season. Once both clubs survived that unexpected Premier Division season they did ok, Drogheda even finished in 2nd spot in 2012

Same for Waterford in 2007 after the Shelegation. Last minute reprieve for the Premier but had assembled a First Division squad, came 11th of 12 and lost the play-off to Harps.

[ToberonaTornado]

Dave Mackey is Bray's new manager.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/national-league/bray-wanderers-confirm-dave-mackey-as-their-new-manager-1.3338234

[Jofspring]

Bray have listed all Bar the three players under contract from last season as Trialist. What’s that about?

[Longfordian]

Just keeping their cards close to their chest.

In all seriousness I've seen speculation that the FAI haven't ratified their new registrations for whatever reason.

[Mr A]

Bray have confirmed a premier license for 2018.

[Seagull]

Bray have confirmed a premier license for 2018.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[nigel-harps1954]

Harps have confirmed Premier Licence too, which is equally surprising.

[sidewayspasser]

Athlone got one as well.
Everyone bar Cobh, Cabo, UCD and Wexford got a Premier Licence.
http://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/sse-airtricity-league-clubs-awarded-licences-for-2018/id-1235