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Plastic Paddy
06/07/2006, 11:43 AM
You seem him as a chancer? Really?

So would you, as I would, still see him a chancer if, after failing to get selected for England, he finally declared for Ireland, a la John Aldridge or Clinton Morrisson? Do you agree with me that John Aldridge, who after years of failing to get selected for England finally declared for Ireland, a country he had never even visited, was a chancer? If not, don't you think your stance is a bit hypocritical?

For "chancer" read "opportunist". After all, they mean the same thing, albeit that the former term has a more pejorative overtone.

Yes, Aldridge was a chancer (but that's not to belittle his subsequent record with, or commitment to, the Ireland team). Yes, Morrison was a chancer (but again, his record for and obvious commitment to the Ireland team is not in question). Cahill's prevarication over clarifying his position with respect to opting for Ireland also smacks of the same opportunistic approach. So, yes, I see him as another chancer.

So no, no hypocrisy to see here, people. Move along... ;)

:ball: PP

Paddy Garcia
06/07/2006, 10:25 PM
Birmingham have handed a trial to Sean St Ledger, who has been talked about on this forum before.

Also someone mentioned Birmingham may have an Irish back 3 next season, well maybe an Irish back 4!

youngirish
07/07/2006, 8:59 AM
Staunton has been an embarrassment trying to persuade players who have already committed to other countries to change alliegance, for example Aaron Lennon. Pathetic. Shows how much faith he has with the current squad.
I agree the man is an absolute mongo. It should be a privilege to play for Ireland in Croke park in front of 80 thousand fans. I'd chew me right arm off for the chance. To have to beg these English rejects to play for us makes a joke of our national football team and consequently our nationality also.

Staunton another great appointment from the FAI and another 4 years (at least) of nothing.

drummerboy
07/07/2006, 9:35 AM
I have no problem with English-born players deciding to play for Ireland or Staunton asking players with Irish connections to play for us, but I do have a problem when he approaches a player like Lennon who was a CURRENT member of the English U-21 set up.

tetsujin1979
07/07/2006, 9:41 AM
I agree the man is an absolute mongo. It should be a privilege to play for Ireland in Croke park in front of 80 thousand fans. I'd chew me right arm off for the chance. To have to beg these English rejects to play for us makes a joke of our national football team and consequently our nationality also.

Staunton another great appointment from the FAI and another 4 years (at least) of nothing.

Kerr was criticised for not bringing new players into the squad, the only non-Irish players he approached were Nolan and Macken (well, that we know of). Staunton has approached Lennon, Cahill and Nolan, got a "thanks, but no" reply from Lennon and Cahill and left it at that. Which is the way it should be. Criticise him for results and performance over the term of his management, not for isolated incidents. We've all made mistakes in our jobs, it's just we don't have to answer to the whole soccer-following population of Ireland.

SaucyJack
07/07/2006, 12:11 PM
Spillane signs 3 year deal with Norwich

PROMISING Academy youngster Michael Spillane has signed a three-year professional contract with the Canaries.

Spillane, 17, is joined in the pro-ranks on July 1 by fellow youth team products Andrew Cave-Brown, Matthew Halliday, Robert Eagle and Andrew Fisk, who have each signed one-year deals.

It was reported last month on First News that the quartet would be offered deals, with Spillane now the latest name to win a professional deal.

The five lads, pictured below, are already joining in full training sessions with the rest of the professionals, with their green Academy kit ditched in favour of the full black garb worn by the senior players.

Spillane made two full senior appearances at the end of last season before injury prematurely ended his campaign.

The Republic of Ireland U19 captain started at right-back in the matches against Sheffield Wednesday and QPR.

He made his senior debut as a substitute in the FA Cup match against West Ham at Carrow Road, with Cave-Brown also making his only first team appearance to date from the bench.

The Club also has one-year options on the contracts of Cave-Brown, Halliday, Eagle and Fisk, allowing the Canaries to extend their deals if they impress sufficiently in the initial 12 months.

Academy Manager Ricky Martin said it was a proud day to see five of his players signing as professionals.

"The lads all came in to see the manager and club secretary Kevan Platt to sign their professional contracts and it was great to see them putting pen to paper," he told First News.

"Michael Spillane is slightly different in that he's a lot younger than the others and is still an under 18. In theory, he should still be with us. But we don't want to hold any of our Academy players back and Nigel was very keen that Michael should move across to the first team in time for pre-season.

Plastic Paddy
08/07/2006, 2:28 PM
Birmingham have handed a trial to Sean St Ledger, who has been talked about on this forum before.

Also someone mentioned Birmingham may have an Irish back 3 next season, well maybe an Irish back 4!

Nope - he's just joined Preston North End. I can't find any reference other than on here to the fact that he's Irish-qualified. Can anyone else find anything to this effect?

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drummerboy
08/07/2006, 2:34 PM
Anyone hear anything new about Anthony Stokes at Arsenal?

Paddy Garcia
08/07/2006, 9:07 PM
Kevin Maher is hoping to catch Staunton's eye now that he is playing in the Championship.

Paddy Garcia
08/07/2006, 9:11 PM
To have to beg these English rejects to play for us makes a joke of our national football team and consequently our nationality also.

I accept that it may be a big deal to readers of this forum, but these approaches barely hit the radar abroad.

Paddy Garcia
08/07/2006, 9:15 PM
Nope - he's just joined Preston North End. I can't find any reference other than on here to the fact that he's Irish-qualified. Can anyone else find anything to this effect?

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Apparently he trained with the Under 21's, though on this forum I know!

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=33710&highlight=ledger

dr_peepee
09/07/2006, 12:13 PM
Yeah! I remember reading about him training with us alright. Watch this space I suppose.

Also Glenn Cronin has joined Chester City from exeter.

dr_peepee
09/07/2006, 2:47 PM
Some thoughts on Colin Healy's performance in yesterdays 1-1 friendly draw with Boston

From the Match Report....." The third of today's trialists, Colin Healy, had a quiet and unassuming match on the whole, but having his moments notably when he picked up a ball from Moore and crossed well only for Skard to waste the effort."

From a poster on an Ipswich message board...."Colin Healy looked an interesting prospect for us nothing flashy but he did the simple things well and generally didn't lose the ball."

Fingers crossed for the lad.

Paddy Garcia
09/07/2006, 9:54 PM
Jay Tabb scores on his debut for Coventry & Kevin Thornton is sent off in a 1:1 draw against Portland.

Stuttgart88
10/07/2006, 8:06 AM
Fingers crossed for the lad.Live in the now, man :)

Glen Cronin - your old favourite!

CraftyToePoke
11/07/2006, 4:00 PM
here are a couple of pieces about Colin Healy and other midfield trialists, from the ipswich site

http://www.itfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10272~865408,00.html

http://www.itfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10272~865802,00.html

CraftyToePoke
13/07/2006, 1:52 PM
Paddy McCarthy,Alan Maybury and Alan Sheehan all played the first 45 for leicester in their first pre-season game v boston last night.leicester played different sides in each half in a 4-1 win, Maybury was played on the right of midfield where he finished last season with McCarthy and Sheehan playing at c.b. and l.b. respectively.

tetsujin1979
13/07/2006, 2:45 PM
Stephen Elliott is fit and well and looking forward to the new season, after a succession of injuries which curtailed his progress last season.
Read more: http://www.safc.com/home/?page_id=9937

tetsujin1979
14/07/2006, 12:13 PM
the squad numbers at man city have been released, Stephen Ireland has taken the number 7 jersey, Richard Dunne is 22 (AFAIR the same number he had last season) and Willo Flood is waay down the list at 44. Not really sure what to make of that, as he is beside Micah Richards and Ishamel Miller (remember that name). None of the Irish participants in the FA Youth Cup final have first team numbers, but several are reserved, so they might get a run out at some point this season

bwagner
14/07/2006, 1:27 PM
They just signed a kid from watford club (london born) called joe o ' caoilleal or sumthing i just heard also norwich are looking to take on some of arsenals youth this year....maybe stokes or kelly?

drummerboy
14/07/2006, 2:52 PM
Heard a rumour, about a week ago, that Stokes could be moved on. I found it hard too believe, though.

SaucyJack
14/07/2006, 4:18 PM
would be a good loan(season-long preferably) move for Stokes, don't know how Kelly is rated though.

youngirish
14/07/2006, 4:38 PM
Kelly was released by Arsenal. He's not meant to be up to much.

Plastic Paddy
14/07/2006, 5:18 PM
They just signed a kid from watford club (london born) called joe o ' caoilleal or sumthing i just heard also norwich are looking to take on some of arsenals youth this year....maybe stokes or kelly?

You'll have to do better than that bwagner - at least learn how to spell the man's name... it's Joe O'Cearuill. Here's what Arseblog said about him at the end of last season:


There’s an interesting player called Joseph O’Cearuill playing for us in the centre of defence. He was let go by Watford on the night our reserves played them at Barnet but a watching Arsene Wenger was so impressed he invited him to play for us. He’s done well in two games since and may well earn himself a deal which just goes to show you football is a funny old game. Not good enough for Watford then all of a sudden you’re playing alongside Ashley Cole and Theo Walcott. Good luck to him, I hope he does well.

http://arseblog.com/WP/?p=13

That'll do. Let's hope he declares quickly if he's any good.

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Irish_Praha
15/07/2006, 6:55 PM
I see Alan O'Brien came on for Newcastle today in the Inter-Toto cup and nearly scored with the last kick of the game. Hopefully he'll get more of a look-in this season.

Paddy Garcia
15/07/2006, 9:10 PM
Lawrence and Murphy scored for Sunderland in a 3-0 win over Forest Green. Apparently the Lawrence goal was fantastic.

Paddy Garcia
16/07/2006, 1:56 PM
Man U want to off-load Liam Miller asap. Ferguson wants rid of him before the transfer window closes.

OwlsFan
17/07/2006, 2:01 PM
Joe O’Cearuill - must be Irish even though born in London ??. Just signed from Watford by Arsenal:

http://www.watfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/AcademyPlayers/0,,10400,00.html

http://www.arsenal.com/player.asp?thisNav=reserves+and+youth&plid=63760&clid=4436&cpid=825

Réiteoir
17/07/2006, 7:59 PM
Wes Hoolahan has gone on a trial to League 1 side Blackpool

Oh how the mighty have fallen

Stuttgart88
18/07/2006, 12:31 PM
Man U want to off-load Liam Miller asap. Ferguson wants rid of him before the transfer window closes.From this morning's Guardian gossip column:

We ought to mention that Sheffield United are planning a bid for Liam Miller - you know, the new-Roy-Keane-except-he's-half-the-size-and-a-bit-rubbish.

dr_peepee
18/07/2006, 2:26 PM
Colin Healy's on trial at Barnsley...

bwagner
18/07/2006, 2:36 PM
b team games in september and january, what about daryl flavahan of championship side southend???????????????????????

CraftyToePoke
18/07/2006, 10:31 PM
Paddy McCarthy and Alan Maybury played at c.b. amd r.m. respectively in leicesters 1-0 friendly win at macclesfield. Logan and Sheehan were unused subs on the night.

eirebhoy
18/07/2006, 11:22 PM
Terry Dixon scored 2 goals for Spurs reserves tonight to add to the goal he scored in his previous game. He was taken off at half time tonight.

Report:
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/spursxiwinagain.html

Stuttgart88
19/07/2006, 7:30 AM
According to the same website Robbie made his first start of pre-season against Celta Vigo and was in excellent form, invloved in all Spurs' best attacks. Andy Reid was absent with a foot injury.

Stuttgart88
19/07/2006, 10:28 AM
I don't think this is any great surprise, but it's very encouraging:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leicester_city/5194018.stm

Leicester defender Patrick McCarthy will captain the side next season.

McCarthy deputised for Danny Tiatto for most of the last campaign and will continue duties on the pitch with Tiatto staying on as club captain.

"I have always dreamt of captaining a big side like Leicester," McCarthy, 23, told the club's website.

"There are a lot of big voices in the dressing-room so it isn't all going to be on my shoulders. I 'll get a helping hand from a few senior professionals."

Leicester manager Rob Kelly wants Tiatto, 33, to play more first-team football this season and thinks he will be under less pressure without the captain's armband.

"I want him to concentrate on himself this season," said Kelly.

"I've taken the extra responsibility away from him but he fully understands the situation."

tetsujin1979
19/07/2006, 10:56 AM
Gavin Mahon signed a new contract with Watford today

cheifo
19/07/2006, 4:03 PM
I really hope Stokes gets out on loan this year.

tetsujin1979
20/07/2006, 12:14 AM
Richard Dunne and Willo Flood played the first 45 minutes, with Flood at right full, while Stephen Ireland was part of an entirely different outfield ten for the second 45 as Man City drew 3-3 with Wrexham, Ireland laying on the pass for the second of Man City's goals.

Man City review: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?syndicatorguid={7EB24EFC-E397-48B3-977A-BC40E4795300}&rmasiteinstanceguid={5B147D34-2BCF-448D-976C-AE1944ED09F5}&pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=347827
Wrexham review: http://www.wrexhamafc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/BreakingNewsDetail/0,,10311~869910,00.html

tetsujin1979
20/07/2006, 9:24 AM
Aiden McGeady was man of the match in Celtic's 1-1 draw with New England Revolution, while Darren O'Dea was (again) an unused sub in the game.

Celtic review: http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-07-20_0547gk'
New England Revolution review: http://www.revolutionsoccer.net/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=19990&pcid=115

eirebhoy
20/07/2006, 10:58 AM
Aiden McGeady was man of the match in Celtic's 1-1 draw with New England Revolution, while Darren O'Dea was (again) an unused sub in the game.

Celtic review: http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-07-20_0547gk'
New England Revolution review: http://www.revolutionsoccer.net/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=19990&pcid=115
I watched this game and McGeady looks a much better player than this time last year. His end product and strength have improved massively. He is also not just lagging on the wing and is all over the pitch trying to get the ball. I hope he keeps progressing. He played behind the strikers for a good bit of the match and looked good.

Stuttgart88
20/07/2006, 2:25 PM
According to football365 Gary Breen is off to Wolves & Damien Delaney got a potentially serious injury in a pre-season friendly.

tetsujin1979
21/07/2006, 10:10 AM
Graham Coughlan and Glen Whelan played the entire 90 minutes for Wednesday against an MSL All Stars team - including Romario on the bench!! - after only playing 60 in the previous game. Coughlan also captained.
Wednesday review here: http://www.swfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/News/0,,10304~869827,00.html?

bwagner
21/07/2006, 12:08 PM
calvin davis has left sunderland so maybe joe murphy

CraftyToePoke
22/07/2006, 12:58 PM
Maybury and Sheehan both came on for the last 20 in leicesters 3-1 win at stockport, Logan was on the bench but McCarthy's name didnt feature anywhere.

tetsujin1979
23/07/2006, 12:47 PM
Stephen Ireland started and Willo Flood was a late second half sub as Man City came from 2-0 down to beat Rochdale 3-2, with Ireland setting up City's first goal. Flood came on for Micah Richards, suggesting he again played in defence??
Man City review: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?syndicatorguid={7EB24EFC-E397-48B3-977A-BC40E4795300}&rmasiteinstanceguid={5B147D34-2BCF-448D-976C-AE1944ED09F5}&pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=348765
Rochdale review: http://www.rochdaleafc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/breaking_news_stories/0,,10441~870946,00.html?ptvParm=

Robbie Keane played as Spurs beat a Birmingham City side including Stephen Kelly, with Marcos Painter and Alex Bruce coming on as second half replacements 2-0, with Berbatov nicking both goals. Colin Doyle was an unused sub for Birmingham.
Spurs review: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/bhamvspurs220706.html
Birmingham City review: http://www.blues.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10412~870898,00.html?ptvParm=

Glen Whelan played the full 90 minutes, and Graham Coughlan again captained Sheffield Wednesday as they beat Rochester Raging Rhinos (what a name!!) 2-0 in the last game of their preseason tour of the US
Wednesday review: http://www.swfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/News/0,,10304~870773,00.html

Stuttgart88
23/07/2006, 2:57 PM
McPhail seems to be settling in well for Cardiff:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/cardiff_city/5207830.stm

tetsujin1979
23/07/2006, 4:36 PM
Paddy Kenny, Owen Geary and Alan Quinn started for Sheffield United, while Alan's brother Stephen was a late sub, in a 3-0 pre season win over Inverness Caledonian Thistle. Alan Quinn getting the third with a free kick.
Sheffield United review: http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MatchAction/0,,10418~870784,00.html

Joey O'Brien played as Bolton lost 2-1 to a Burnley side including Alan Mahon, Garreth O'Connor and James O'Connor, with Chris McCann coming on as a sub in the second half.
Bolton review: http://www.bwfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,1004~870910,00.html?
Burnley review: http://www.burnleyfootballclub.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10413~870930,00.html

geysir
24/07/2006, 6:39 AM
Mc Geady had a good 30mins for Celtic against Everton.
Brought menace and penetration to a very limp attack. Showed a natural awareness for the incisive pass. He didn't get much over Neville but when cutting inside he was much more effective than at the Chile friendly.
Old soldier Carsley patrolled around midfield, can still pinpoint a 50 yard pass, if he holds his place in the first team he could be there or thereabouts in the Irish squad.

Stuttgart88
24/07/2006, 7:37 AM
McGeady scored from 25 yards according to teletext.