Shay Given

[theworm2345]

Duff is a diver sadly...
Yeah, I was crying in the minutes after he dove against Spain.

[yapster]

Yeah, I was crying in the minutes after he dove against Spain.


You should have been as cheating in sport is a sad state of affairs and a bad example to kids no matter who does it..

[tricky_colour]

Captured some images, in chronological order, as the reseve keeper is getting ready to come on, a concerned Stephen ;)


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[theworm2345]

Captured some images, in chronological order, as the reseve keeper is getting ready to come on, a concerned Stephen ;)


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http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9263/testp.gif

[yapster]

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9263/testp.gif


In fairness to S.Ireland this could mean anything

[tetsujin1979]

Given had an operation on his shoulder on wednesday evening and is expected to being rehabilitation soon: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2010/April/Shay-Given-has-surgery-on-shoulder

[geysir]

I came across this picture the other day.
A penny for Shay's thoughts at that very instant.

http://rikruca.dk/images/VM2002/Gaizka_Mendieta_sends_Spain_into_the_last_eight.jp g

[Stuttgart88]

Did you have to remind us?

[Ciaran W]

Given is the best keeper in the world ! Hope his injury isnt to bad.

[elroy]

Im sure i have the green tinted glass on and being harsh on Fulop but I think Shay wouldve done alot better with the shot/cross from kaboul last night that directly led to Crouch's goal.

[Drumcondra 69er]

I came across this picture the other day.
A penny for Shay's thoughts at that very instant.

http://rikruca.dk/images/VM2002/Gaizka_Mendieta_sends_Spain_into_the_last_eight.jp g

Reckon he thought he could save it, would've got it with his leg had it not hit a divot.

Gutted he won't be in the CL next year.

Think elroy's being harsh on Fulop, ball was deflected at him from the cross, very little he could do other then bat it out, unfortunate it landed right on Crouch's head.

[Wolfie]

I came across this picture the other day.
A penny for Shay's thoughts at that very instant.

http://rikruca.dk/images/VM2002/Gaizka_Mendieta_sends_Spain_into_the_last_eight.jp g

I'm off to Casualty now, due to the callous opening of an old mental wound :(

As all psychologists will testify, this stuff should be buried and allowed fester deep within your subconscious until you inevitably take your place atop the towns bell tower with an M60 and a few rounds of ammo.

[Stuttgart88]

Agree totally with D69er. The cross took a deflection and Fulop did as well as he could have done. He had a really good game I thought.

[paul_oshea]

I came across this picture the other day.
A penny for Shay's thoughts at that very instant.

http://rikruca.dk/images/VM2002/Gaizka_Mendieta_sends_Spain_into_the_last_eight.jp g


Why, oh Why did I dive so early....AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[geysir]

Or "if only I had my size 12's on"

[DannyInvincible]

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/808934/GIVEN-STRIVING-FOR-AUGUST-RETURN.html

Excellent news. Given will be fit for our game with Armenia in September and is hoping for a return to action in August.


SHAY GIVEN will be FIT for Republic of Ireland's Euro 2012 kick-off against Armenia in September.

The Manchester City keeper injured his shoulder against Arsenal two weeks ago and has undergone surgery with the same medic who helped Petr Cech and David James recover from similar injuries.

Given plans to avoid taking any holidays this summer and train through the off-season so he can be ready for the Premier League's kick-off in August and Ireland's Euro campaign.

[elroy]

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12606,00.html

Good news from Shay, hoping to be back fit for the start of the season.

[geysir]

Watching Wedgewood take his place, took a month away from his recovery time

[EastTerracer]

Watching Wedgewood take his place, took a month away from his recovery time

To be honest I thought Wedgewood was a bit static tonight

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_H4iJqY9xLrc/TABYLjKCSpI/AAAAAAAAADo/4aUmDv65Wd4/84171037.jpg

[tetsujin1979]

Short article on Man City's site about Given's thoughts on the World Cup: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2010/May/Shay-switches-for-World-Cup

[geysir]

To be honest I thought Wedgewood was a bit static tonight

:)
a blooper,

at least Wedge sounds meatier and rhymes with Sledge.

[tetsujin1979]

Interview with Given on Man City's site about his progress to date: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2010/May/Shay-set-to-start-the-season

[livehead1]

Anyone else got serious concerns that Hart might be City's number 1 next season?

[jbyrne]

Anyone else got serious concerns that Hart might be City's number 1 next season?

if shay is back in time for August then he will start off at no. 1. a bit of competition for the GK shirt cant hurt

[tetsujin1979]

Anyone else got serious concerns that Hart might be City's number 1 next season?
Hart will probably get the nod in League Cup/FA Cup games but I can't see him playing more Premier League or Europa League games than Given.

[elroy]

No doubt if Hart is at citeh next season, the english media will be putting some pressure on him being made no 1.

[Charlie Darwin]

They were doing the same thing when Given was signed. If Hughes can ignore them then Mancini can too. Fact is that experience is vitally important at the top level and the Italians know that better than anyone. I wouldn't say Hart is incapable of playing his way into the team but it's still Given's shirt to lose for me.

[seanfhear]

Anyone else got serious concerns that Hart might be City's number 1 next season?
I would say that it is a possibility, especially if Hart was somehow to claim the English No 1 at the world cup. If he did well and if the unbelievable (I hope unbelievable) happened and England were to win it or nearly win it then there would be gigantic pressure for Hart to be the City No 1.

If I were the England manager I might pick Hart as my No 1. He lacks in experience but there are drawbacks with his other two options as well. Hart had a very good season for Bermingham so both posssibilities are not beyound the bounds of er possibility.

[rebelmusic]

Not worried. You cant seriously have a keeper of Given's stature as an understudy. If hart is looking their number 1 they'll either sell Given or loan him out. It would be a bad bad idea to have him on the bench

[tetsujin1979]

City signed Hart 4 years ago from Shrewsbury, and he's still only 23. He's definitely in their long term plans as their number one goalkeeper. He'll challenge Given next season, but it'll be at least 2 seasons before he can seriously think of overtaking him

[OwlsFan]

Frankly, I am not worried whether he'll be No 1 or No 83. I just want him to make a full recovery from what is a serious injury for a keeper. The rest will look after itself.

[Manblue]

City signed Hart 4 years ago from Shrewsbury, and he's still only 23. He's definitely in their long term plans as their number one goalkeeper. He'll challenge Given next season, but it'll be at least 2 seasons before he can seriously think of overtaking him

Mancini is in a very tough situation with this one, hart having such a fabulous season is a real headache for him although a good one, we all know shay wants to play every single game, as stu taylor found out last year but there is no way harty will be content to sit on the bench for two years after having another season under his belt, one of these will have to give after this year and neither will take a loan deal unless city offer hart massive money to come back in 2012/2013. Very hard to say wholl move on.

[irishfan86]

If Given isn't 100 per cent fit by training camp, I could see Hart winning the starting job.

That said, Mancini seems to really rate Given, and regularly made him captain when Toure was unavailable for selection. I think I remember reading something about Mancini saying that Given was one of the best five goalkeepers in the world.

By all accounts Given is making a rapid recovery though, so touch wood he'll be ready for us in September and keeping his place at Man City.

[wrestler313]

If Given isn't 100 per cent fit by training camp, I could see Hart winning the starting job.

That said, Mancini seems to really rate Given, and regularly made him captain when Toure was unavailable for selection. I think I remember reading something about Mancini saying that Given was one of the best five goalkeepers in the world.

By all accounts Given is making a rapid recovery though, so touch wood he'll be ready for us in September and keeping his place at Man City.

i think hart might tempt a club like arsenal if given remains no1. given is def top 5 in the world, and still has a few good years left. mancini would do really, really well to keep hart as a no2

[rebelmusic]

Mate of mine met himself, keane, duff and carr in new york out for duffers stag night. He said shay was in flying form. Good news

[drummerboy]

Surely if Hart was the a better keeper than Given he would be starting every game for England. But he is not. Green and James are ahead of him and I don't know any journalist or coach, even English ones, who would be so biased as to put either of them ahead of Given. So If Hart is behind this pair, there is no way he will displace Given in the near future. He is stilll very much a work in progress, and I would not be surprised to see him going on loan or being sold in the summer.

[Manblue]

Surely if Hart was the a better keeper than Given he would be starting every game for England. But he is not. Green and James are ahead of him and I don't know any journalist or coach, even English ones, who would be so biased as to put either of them ahead of Given. So If Hart is behind this pair, there is no way he will displace Given in the near future. He is stilll very much a work in progress, and I would not be surprised to see him going on loan or being sold in the summer.

The english Keeper is probably capellos hardest decision for the world cup...on form it would have to be hart, experience wise obviously james but Green has started the most games recently, Hart is playing well at the moment but was very prone to mistakes, it will be interesting to see if he gets a go at the world cup as i think there is very little between the 3, either way my arguement is City want to keep hart in the long term and he wont stay there for more than a year not playing,

that said i think shay will retain the jersey this year, and if he ever decides to come for a cross he will hold it for 2 or more seasons

[irishfan86]

Surely if Hart was the a better keeper than Given he would be starting every game for England. But he is not. Green and James are ahead of him and I don't know any journalist or coach, even English ones, who would be so biased as to put either of them ahead of Given. So If Hart is behind this pair, there is no way he will displace Given in the near future. He is stilll very much a work in progress, and I would not be surprised to see him going on loan or being sold in the summer.

While Hart isn't the finished article just yet, he's still very very good. If I were giving out the award for top keeper in the Prem this year I'd pick Hart.

[tetsujin1979]

interview with Given, including an update on his recovery so far here: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1243047_harts_place_not_a_given

[Colbert Report]

Manchester City will have two options if Shay makes a full recovery:

1) Loan Hart out again for the entire season

2) Sell Given to any one of the other nineteen Premiership clubs who would be happy to have him as their starting 'keeper.

[kev mcq]

Mate of mine met himself, keane, duff and carr in new york out for duffers stag night. He said shay was in flying form. Good news

Good news that he's not depressed?

[rebelmusic]

Meant it as in if he was out on a stag in the states and full of beans i'd take it he was happy about his recovery. Couple of days after i posted that he came out and said it was all looking good. Was just saying :P

[WexCar]

Good news that he's not depressed?

Would you prefer him to be depressed?? :confused::confused:

[Den Perry]

Manchester City will have two options if Shay makes a full recovery:

1) Loan Hart out again for the entire season

2) Sell Given to any one of the other nineteen Premiership clubs who would be happy to have him as their starting 'keeper.

how can you say they would be happy to have him as their starting keeper?How come all of those clubs havn't tried to sign him in the past so?

Don't get me wrong, I think Given is the best in England, and possibly the world, but to state that all clubs would be happy to start him smacks of looking through those green tinted glasses

[tetsujin1979]

how can you say they would be happy to have him as their starting keeper?How come all of those clubs havn't tried to sign him in the past so?

Don't get me wrong, I think Given is the best in England, and possibly the world, but to state that all clubs would be happy to start him smacks of looking through those green tinted glasses
well then, what clubs wouldn't start him ahead of their current keeper?

[Den Perry]

Well I don't ever remember Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, or Aston Villa putting in bids for him while he was at Newcastle. Therefore I 'd say its safe to assume that all nineteen other clubs would not be happy to start him.

Again, I reiterate my point that I believe he is the best, but its obvious that not all premier league managers believe that. So to suggest City can let him go and Given will walk into any other premier league team he wants is just bravado

[Closed Account]

how can you say they would be happy to have him as their starting keeper?How come all of those clubs havn't tried to sign him in the past so?

Don't get me wrong, I think Given is the best in England, and possibly the world, but to state that all clubs would be happy to start him smacks of looking through those green tinted glasses
Just because every club in the Premiership didn't put in a bid for Zinedine Zidane doesn't mean he wouldn't start for them.
As tets said, pick a team in the premiership that would have Given on the bench? Even Petr Cech has been questionable.

[Den Perry]

Just because every club in the Premiership didn't put in a bid for Zinedine Zidane doesn't mean he wouldn't start for them.
As tets said, pick a team in the premiership that would have Given on the bench? Even Petr Cech has been questionable.

Given is far better than Cech in my opinion.However, Given was available to buy, and was good value and none of them came in for him. Now if if for example Wenger didn't buy him back when he was available then, why would he now when he is older. Likewise Fergie, etc. So to state that he would start in any of the other premier league teams is if City let him go / sold him is a bit presumtious

[Drumcondra 69er]

Given is far better than Cech in my opinion.However, Given was available to buy, and was good value and none of them came in for him. Now if if for example Wenger didn't buy him back when he was available then, why would he now when he is older. Likewise Fergie, etc. So to state that he would start in any of the other premier league teams is if City let him go / sold him is a bit presumtious

Wegner's an idiot when it comes to keepers though and Fergie's not much better. Wegner got lucky in inheriting Seamen and hasn't replaced him yet, Arsenals would have another couple of titles had he followed his interest in Given up rather then deciding he was too small.

And I'd ask why didn't Fergie go for Van der Sar when he was available and went to Fulham but go for him a couple of years later to answer the second point.

Given was very settled in Newcastle and probably could have shown more ambition in looking for a move earlier. He had a sister living over there and his missus was a local so had a lot of family around him. I think he kidded himself that Newcastle could come good (qualified for a couple of Champions Leagues and cup finals while he was there) until it became glaringly obvious that they wouldn't.

But I agree, it does seem strange that no one made a serious offer for him, his height is the only reason I can think of other then the fact that goalkeeping isn't as valued in England as it is in Italy or Spain, managers of English clubs would never have splashed out the sort of money Buffon went for for example.

[Den Perry]

Wegner's an idiot when it comes to keepers though and Fergie's not much better. Wegner got lucky in inheriting Seamen and hasn't replaced him yet, Arsenals would have another couple of titles had he followed his interest in Given up rather then deciding he was too small.

And I'd ask why didn't Fergie go for Van der Sar when he was available and went to Fulham but go for him a couple of years later to answer the second point.

Given was very settled in Newcastle and probably could have shown more ambition in looking for a move earlier. He had a sister living over there and his missus was a local so had a lot of family around him. I think he kidded himself that Newcastle could come good (qualified for a couple of Champions Leagues and cup finals while he was there) until it became glaringly obvious that they wouldn't.

But I agree, it does seem strange that no one made a serious offer for him, his height is the only reason I can think of other then the fact that goalkeeping isn't as valued in England as it is in Italy or Spain, managers of English clubs would never have splashed out the sort of money Buffon went for for example.

I agree Wenger is stupid when it comes to keepers and I take your point about Ferguson and Van de Sar.I'd have Given ahead of any of them. I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that not all Premier League managers think the same, and that if City for some mad reason let him go, I wouldn't be as confident in the poster above that he would start with all 19 other teams