Shay Given

[dr_peepee]

Looks to me like Mancini effectively tricked him into staying with his promises of starting him in Europe. Get out of there Shay, you're too good to be getting splinters from the bench

Shocking... Hope it's the rock they perish on when Hart goes all Scott Carson/Ben Foster on them!!!

[rebelmusic]

EH!! Given been talked about going back to newcastle

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/20092010/58/premier-league-given-line-toon-return.html

[Charlie Darwin]

Hughton says no:


Newcastle boss Chris Hughton has dismissed speculation that goalkeeper Shay Given could make an emotional return to St James’ Park as cover for the injured Steve Harper.

The 34-year-old Republic of Ireland international has lost his Manchester City place to Joe Hart this season and is desperate for regular football. However, despite seeing 35-year-old Harper, the man who for so long acted as back-up to the Irishman during his 11-and-a-half-year stay on Tyneside, suffer a nasty shoulder injury at Everton on Saturday, Hughton will not be contacting City counterpart Roberto Mancini.

“I can understand that one and it is a very emotional one as well, but no, I can categorically say that won’t be happening,” said the former Ireland defender.


http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2010/0920/1224279337603.html

[rebelmusic]

Phew okay, ill start breathing again. Hints at Arsenal flying around again, i spose if they offered enough money it could happen.

[SwanVsDalton]

Phew okay, ill start breathing again. Hints at Arsenal flying around again, i spose if they offered enough money it could happen.

Ditto Steve Harper...

[geysir]

You can imagine the last person in the world Steve Harper wants to see is Shay Given.

[elroy]

Roma want Manchester City keeper Shay Given - and Republic of Ireland manager Giovanni *Trapattoni has encouraged him to consider a move to Serie A.
Full story: Daily Mirror

[tetsujin1979]

Roma want Manchester City keeper Shay Given - and Republic of Ireland manager Giovanni *Trapattoni has encouraged him to consider a move to Serie A.
Full story: Daily Mirror
It's a story about a month old, there were a few reports in an Italian newspaper and nothing came of it.

[tetsujin1979]

Given set to start for City tomorrow VS West Brom in the League Cup: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2010/September/Shay-set-to-start-against-West-Brom
Would add a little credence to the stories linking him with clubs outside England, since he'll be cup tied after this

[tricky_colour]

Given set to start for City tomorrow VS West Brom in the League Cup: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2010/September/Shay-set-to-start-against-West-Brom
Would add a little credence to the stories linking him with clubs outside England, since he'll be cup tied after this

I doubt the League Cup would be a deal breaker anyway.

[AlaskaFox]

I doubt the League Cup would be a deal breaker anyway.

Could be if he were to go on loan to someone in the bottom half of the table, like the rumoured Newcastle (although that's ruled out now). Hopefully he pulls off a string of saves tomorrow, but I doubt West Brom will be getting too many shots on target.

[irishfan86]

It's a story about a month old, there were a few reports in an Italian newspaper and nothing came of it.

In fairness the McGeady to Spartak story kicked around a lot before anything came of it.

[tricky_colour]

Could be if he were to go on loan to someone in the bottom half of the table, like the rumoured Newcastle (although that's ruled out now). Hopefully he pulls off a string of saves tomorrow, but I doubt West Brom will be getting too many shots on target.

Hopefully yes, but I just have this awful feeling he will make a huge blunder. it would just about sum up
his luck. Even if he has a good game it won't make any difference, so he is on a hiding to nothing.
As you say West Brom probably won't have many chances so it's a bit of a no win situation.

[AlaskaFox]

Mancini has confirmed Given will start anyway. As long as he shakes off a toe injury according to Goal.com
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/09/21/2129436/manchester-city-manager-roberto-mancini-admits-struggles-to-keep-

[elroy]

Mancini has confirmed Given will start anyway. As long as he shakes off a toe injury according to Goal.com
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/09/21/2129436/manchester-city-manager-roberto-mancini-admits-struggles-to-keep-

The fact that Mancini has now come out and said he can leave in Jan is not a good sign. Looks like the no 1 spot isnt even up for challenge. its very harsh on shay in fairness. I wonder if shay was english and hart was irish, would the transition have happened so swiftly.

[rebelmusic]

Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini has warned any potential suitors they will not get Shay Given on the cheap.
Given is set to make his first appearance of the season in the Carling Cup tie at West Brom, just three days after Mancini confirmed he could leave City in January.
The Republic of Ireland star has lost out to Joe Hart in the battle to be City's number one keeper this season and, although he remained at Eastlands during the last days of the transfer window, is likely to seek pastures new when it re-opens again in the New Year.
Already Newcastle boss Chris Hughton has been forced to play down speculation that he might try and get Given back to St James' Park on an emergency loan following the injury sustained by Steve Harper.
Now Mancini has stepped in to confirm that Given is still wanted by City and will not be released without the buying club coming up with substantial funds.
"Shay is an important player and he will cost someone a lot of money," said the City boss.
"I said Shay could leave the club if he wants and we have a good option but if he stayed it would be OK for me."





They paid what, 6 mill for him? They'll hardly up the price?

[AlaskaFox]

He'll probably end up leaving for €4 million (to Arsenal) in January. Can't see his value rising if he's not playing.

[Colbert Report]

He should be available on a free transfer or a small fee at best. Remember when Duff left Newcastle? He was on such big wages that Fulham were really doing Newcastle a favour by taking him off the books. Surely Given is in bigger money at Manchester City than anyone else would be willing to pay?

NO idea why Wenger didn't make a move for him in August.

[SwanVsDalton]

According to 5Live he's made four top class saves, without him Man City would be 3-4 down. Also Cunningham is being 'taken to the cleaners' apparently.

[Noelys Guitar]

According to 5Live he's made four top class saves, without him Man City would be 3-4 down. Also Cunningham is being 'taken to the cleaners' apparently.

From the BBC 2038: Man City are hanging on a bit at The Hawthorns, where Shay Given has just shown he is still match-sharp with a superb double stop, first to keep out Somen Tchoyi's effort and then, seconds later, from Roman Bednar's snap-shot.

[Stuttgart88]

You'd wonder what plaudits Hart would get for the same thing. Hart's playing very well in fairness but a few weeks ago he made a routine save from a poor finish against Torres and followed up with a good block and you'd swear the media had just seen the Second Coming. It was just a double save the likes of which most EPL keepers would make.

[SkStu]

You'd wonder what plaudits Hart would get for the same thing. Hart's playing very well in fairness but a few weeks ago he made a routine save from a poor finish against Torres and followed up with a good block and you'd swear the media had just seen the Second Coming. It was just a double save the likes of which most EPL keepers would make.

but the likes of which most english keepers would not. ;)

[tetsujin1979]

just watched the highlights on BBC, according to them Given kept West Brom out until they finally did score. The backline were all under 23 years of age, two were making their debut, lacked leadership and left him very exposed.

One of the saves from Bednar was truely exceptional. With City out of the League Cup, he's probably going to find his first team opportunities extremely limited between now and January

[tetsujin1979]

Highlights of the City - West Brom game: http://mcfc.co.uk/Video/Match-highlights/West-Brom-v-City-extended

[Badhands]

Shay Given is a class keeper, however i do not agree that Hart is in the team just because he is English. I think Given would do well to move as i would like him to be playing first team football for Ireland. I don't think he will get a move to Arsenal or Utd because i think if those managers rated him they would have picked him up earlier. If he wants to play Champions league football i think he will have to go to the continent.

[Stuttgart88]

Highlights of the City - West Brom game: http://mcfc.co.uk/Video/Match-highlights/West-Brom-v-City-extendedHe played well enough, but nothing remarkable I thought. He pushed a few efforts back into play - you get away with it sometimes but not always.

[Colbert Report]

Anyone see West Brom's second goal at Arsenal today? Wenger simply must buy a new 'keeper in January. I hope Shay Given gets his move.

[Charlie Darwin]

Arsene's too cheap to splash out on a goalkeeper. He'll spend the money on strikers and attacking players but he doesn't think defenders or goalkeepers are important.

[Predator]

Anyone see West Brom's second goal at Arsenal today? Wenger simply must buy a new 'keeper in January. I hope Shay Given gets his move.I'll keep an eye out for it later on.


Arsene's too cheap to splash out on a goalkeeper. He'll spend the money on strikers and attacking players but he doesn't think defenders or goalkeepers are important.I suppose the re-signing of Sol Campbell goes some way in supporting that idea, but Wenger forked out a fair bit for Vermaelen, didn't he? He also gave a substantial fee for Richard Wright. Maybe he doesn't have a good eye for 'keepers?

[Charlie Darwin]

He splashed out a bit on Koscielny too, but it's nothing compared to what Liverpool, Chelsea and United have spent. Wright was a big one - may have coloured his attitude towards goalkeepers since. I mean he clearly has an eye for a bargain - Lehmann was 1m as he was out of favour at Dortmund, and Almunia was third choice at whatever Spanish club he came from - but his transfer history at the back is littered with cheap buys that haven't worked out and cheap buys that have worked out.

[Noelys Guitar]

I would say the chances of Shay joining Arsenal are slim to none. Wenger will almost certainly buy/loan another keeper (possibly 2) and neither will be Shay for a variety of reasons. Shay will have to look elsewhere for a move unfortunately.

[geysir]

Main probable reason is City would not agree to that loan move and can Arsenal wait for the next transfer period?

It is astonishing though for a manager like Wenger to have that huge blind spot these past seasons.
It is just about the first most important position to fill in a top team, to have a top goalkeeper. You just spend what is needed to get a good keeper, then set the budget for the rest.

[Noelys Guitar]

Main probable reason is City would not agree to that loan move and can Arsenal wait for the next transfer period?

It is astonishing though for a manager like Wenger to have that huge blind spot these past seasons.
It is just about the first most important position to fill in a top team, to have a top goalkeeper. You just spend what is needed to get a good keeper, then set the budget for the rest.
I get the feeling sometimes that Wenger for such an intelligent man throws a kind of hissy fit when told by all and sundry that he needs to get a goalkeeper in (and a couple of defenders as well). And so he goes and does the opposite and sticks with what he has. He usually has a couple of players lined up (and 50% of the time they are very good payers) and perhaps he feels he can stay in touch until the next transfer window. But surely he knows himself that he needs to win something soon and he won't with Almunia in goal.

[Stuttgart88]

He'll probably go for Schwarzer, although was there talk of a medical problem?

Wenger's advisors have got to take a share of the blame I reckon. Bob Wilson consulted him in the past.

[Eminence Grise]

Wilson was interviewed by the Beeb a few years ago, and said that he was always pushing Wenger to invest in a good keeper, but Wenger kept rejecting his advice. If someone like Wilson can't make him see sense, there's obviously a blind spot in Wenger's approach.

[seanfhear]

Wenger has a blind spot when it comes to goal keepers unfortunately so does his goalkeepers.

[elroy]

And apparently Fabinski is going to start for them in the CL this week, after the howlers he made in the competition last year.

I think its likely that Arsenal will eventually get Schwarzer in Jan. The main obstacle for Shay to move to Arsenal is Mancini and City, they wont let him move there without a big fee and definitely not on loan.

[Serb]

The main obstacle for Shay to move to Arsenal is Mancini and City, they wont let him move there without a big fee and definitely not on loan.

I'd disagree with this. I think the main obstacle for Shay moving to Arsenal would be the fact that Arsene Wenger doesn't rate him. He came out and said he wasn't interested in signing Shay when he was leaving Newcastle (http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-i-am-not-interested-in-shay-given) citing that they weren't looking for a keeper when they clearly were, and he has come out again saying that he's not interested in signing Shay from Manchester City (http://www.breakingfootballnews.com/english-premier-league/arsenal-vs-blackpool-live-online-arsene-wenger-rules-out-shay-given-move/7188) citing Shay's high wages and then admitting in the same breath that he doesn't know how much City's keepers earn.

I think Shay is an amazing keeper, and is worth maybe 10 points a season, but I really can't see him ever moving to Arsenal while Wenger is there.

[seanfhear]

I'd disagree with this. I think the main obstacle for Shay moving to Arsenal would be the fact that Arsene Wenger doesn't rate him. He came out and said he wasn't interested in signing Shay when he was leaving Newcastle (http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-i-am-not-interested-in-shay-given) citing that they weren't looking for a keeper when they clearly were, and he has come out again saying that he's not interested in signing Shay from Manchester City (http://www.breakingfootballnews.com/english-premier-league/arsenal-vs-blackpool-live-online-arsene-wenger-rules-out-shay-given-move/7188) citing Shay's high wages and then admitting in the same breath that he doesn't know how much City's keepers earn.

I think Shay is an amazing keeper, and is worth maybe 10 points a season, but I really can't see him ever moving to Arsenal while Wenger is there.
Would'nt put too much weight on Wengers opinions about goalkeepers when you see what he has picked for Arsenal in recent years ! ! !

[Spudulika]

On Rossiya 2 (the renamed sports channel) 3 times they mentioned (during the Ireland match) that Shay Given is being sought by a Moscow club in January. This was mentioned twice, by Dasaev (spit to the side) on Friday night, though it was in the contaxt of: he's a better keeper than we see tonight, one of the best in England, and his club don't want him. By deduction I think it will be either Dynamo or Spartak, Dynamo haven't a decent keeper, while the first choice for Spartak is moving at the end of the year. Would be a great move as the Russians idolise their keepers. Watch this space!

[Charlie Darwin]

Interesting. Maybe McGeady had a word with Karpin (in English I assume).

[Spudulika]

I don't know CD, but I'd say Spartak would be up and down for him. For sure the club will be in the knock out stages of the CL, or at least in the Europa League, and next year they'll be Europa League pretty much for certain. I don't like the club (because of their fans and officials) though it would be a great move. He'd have a couple of good years there before playing his last 3 seasons in Oriel Park!

[kev mcq]

He'd have a couple of good years there before playing his last 3 seasons in Oriel Park!
I'd imagine if he was to play LOI it would be with Finn Harps.

[Charlie Darwin]

Or Derry City. He's a bordermonkey after all.

[Jicked]

I'd be amazed to see Given go to Russia. He's not a young guy like McGeady, and he won't be making a huge difference to his standard of living, in fact he may even take a pay-cut to move there despite the tax situation. McGeady also knew a move could affect his earning power over the next 5-6 years if he performs on that stage. Again, that wouldn't be an issue for Given, at his age he'll be looking to move for the last time. Would he really move his family (McGeady only brought his girlfriend with him), to a very different culture, for less money and with no potential for growth in the future, just to win a Russian title?

If he was to go abroad I think it would be more likely to somewhere like Italy, where going by my Italian friends he's highly rated by their press, could earn good money, play in a big competition, in a less alien culture, and where it would be easier for him to either move his family over or commute to and from England.

[kev mcq]

Or Derry City. He's a bordermonkey after all.

Well seeing as he mentioned Harps on Soccer AM and was involved in their publicity campaign at the start of this season I think it would hardly be Derry.

[Spudulika]

Jicked, alien culture would be the same wherever he goes, while his earnings (especially with the very low tax rate) would we more than what he is on now. I'd safely say there would be more english spoken in Moscow than most Italian cities, though in terms of glory, you have it right, winning the league here and getting a good run in the CL wouldn't match up with challenging for Serie A, he has 3-4 good years at top level, so the world is still his oyster.

Guys, he'd go to Dundalk, sure it's on the border anyyway but with better shopping!

[Charlie Darwin]

You people act as if they speak English in Newcastle. Or Lifford, for that matter. I don't think it's an issue.


Well seeing as he mentioned Harps on Soccer AM and was involved in their publicity campaign at the start of this season I think it would hardly be Derry.
I was not privvy to this information.

[SwanVsDalton]

Well seeing as he mentioned Harps on Soccer AM and was involved in their publicity campaign at the start of this season I think it would hardly be Derry.

We're talking about the end of his career here, not the onset of senility.

[kev mcq]

We're talking about the end of his career here, not the onset of senility.

He'd want to join a club with a history...not one formed last year.