Shay Given [Archive] - Page 14

the bear

31/01/2011, 11:52 AM

thought harts positioning was terrible for that goal. standing in no mans land due to trying to clear the attacker out of his way. should of been a defender on him in fairness. zonal marking is an absoloute disaster.

shays main problem seems to be that city won't let him go to a rival club, which pretty much rules out anybody that would be interested in signing him

shakermaker1982

31/01/2011, 12:02 PM

I was at the game yesterday and behind the goal when Hart conceded the goal. He got irritated with Westcarr (who wasn't doing anything wrong) and stepped forward to give him another shove when the ball came whizzing over his head. He's also a very quiet goalkeeper. Doesn't really communicate with his back 4. Other than that he had very little to do.

Charlie Darwin

31/01/2011, 12:21 PM

Greenbod

31/01/2011, 12:46 PM

Arsenal rumoured to be making late bid for Shay......would be great news but doubt if Mancini will let it happen.

http://www.footylatest.com/arsenal-to-make-last-minute-dash-to-sign-shay-given/19632

irishultra

31/01/2011, 12:57 PM

A few of you are asking about a possible Sven-Goran Eriksson swoop for Manchester City's second-choice keeper Shay Given but my understanding is there is no chance of the Republic of Ireland international joining Leicester, or anyone else today. City got left short between the sticks by an injury to Given last season when they had loaned Joe Hart out to Birmingham, and they are not going to run the risk of the same happening again this campaign. Given to stay, until the summer anyway.

hes stayin it seems

Noelys Guitar

31/01/2011, 1:19 PM

What happens if Given has to stay at City (as just reported on the BBC site) and remains number 2 and Westwood moves to Wigan today? Big decision for Trapatonni.

SwanVsDalton

31/01/2011, 1:26 PM

What happens if Given has to stay at City (as just reported on the BBC site) and remains number 2 and Westwood moves to Wigan today? Big decision for Trapatonni.

Given's number one. Ideally he'd be playing first team ball, but I don't think there's a decision to be made. Especially if he's not playing really, really poorly when called.

Stuttgart88

31/01/2011, 1:30 PM

I'm not sure it's fair to say Arsenal have a GK crisis. Almunia will be on his way, Fabianski actually looks decent when he gets a run of form up - the fans are becoming quite appreciative of him - and the other Pole looks quality in the making.

Would Westwood get a game at Wigan? Al Habsi looks very good. Just an aside - was Al Habsi the guy who came on late at the RDS and who also played in Algeria's second and third games at the WC? I thought he looked more than decent and was a country mile ahead of the hapless clown who started against us at the RDS and let in a howler against Slovenia.

SwanVsDalton

31/01/2011, 1:32 PM

No, Al Habsi's an Oman international.

paul_oshea

31/01/2011, 1:41 PM

Oooh scary.

shakermaker1982

31/01/2011, 2:26 PM

Interesting. I would have blamed the defenders - nobody got anywhere near the ball and allowed the attacker a clear run on the ball. Not much a goalkeeper can do in that situation except try and get in the way of the ball.

If he stayed where he was he'd have saved it. He lost his concentration over a nothing incident. City are big on zonal marking and if somebody puts in a perfect ball then your up the creek.

irishfan86

31/01/2011, 2:34 PM

If he stayed where he was he'd have saved it. He lost his concentration over a nothing incident. City are big on zonal marking and if somebody puts in a perfect ball then your up the creek.

There are pros and cons to each system. The ideal system incorporates a certain amount of each.

Sullivinho

31/01/2011, 3:50 PM

What happens if Given has to stay at City (as just reported on the BBC site) and remains number 2 and Westwood moves to Wigan today? Big decision for Trapatonni.

I think he'll stick with Shay. During the week he was stressing the need for Robbie to find regular football but in the same breath claimed it was 'different for goalkeepers' (paraphrasing).

No, Al Habsi's an Oman international.

That guy put in a performance against Villa that was comparable to Shay in his prime. A string of unreal saves.

Stuttgart88

31/01/2011, 4:03 PM

He was superb against Arsenal as well.

TrapAPony

31/01/2011, 6:57 PM

7:56
Steve@SkyBet: A late move from Cardiff to land Manchester City 'keeper Shay Given. The Republic of Ireland stopper is now even money favourite (from 33/1) to join Dave Jones' side after a number of large bets.

shakermaker1982

31/01/2011, 7:49 PM

Fingers crossed he gets a move.

SkStu

31/01/2011, 7:52 PM

Leicester just signed Ricardo so that spells the end for Shay to Leceister.

Noelys Guitar

31/01/2011, 7:54 PM

Redknapp just said Spurs are signing no one so a spurs move might still be on.

shakermaker1982

31/01/2011, 8:23 PM

Linked to Arsenal again in the last hour...

tetsujin1979

31/01/2011, 8:44 PM

Redknapp just said Spurs are signing no one so a spurs move might still be on.
and less than an hour later Everton rejected a bif from them for Phil Neville

back of the net

01/02/2011, 9:07 PM

Lads......As much as I hate to suggest this as i am huge fan of Shay Given, now that the transfer window is closed and if Shay spends the majority of the remainder of the season on the bench (barring a Injury to Hart) ....should shays position as Ireland number 1 be reconsidered?? ( God I cant believe I have asked that, never thought I would or would have to )( I realise Noely posted a similar comment yday , But now that the windows closed , what do ppl think)

IsMiseSean

01/02/2011, 10:04 PM

I'd stick with him for the Macedonia game, but if he isn't playing at the start of next season then it's time for a change

elroy

02/02/2011, 3:21 PM

If we didnt have a good solid emerging keeper like Westwood then I would say no, but I think if Shay doesnt play much in the next few months, serious consideration will be needed. there is no way he can be as sharp as WW. If it happens i wonder will shay "walk away".

Shay HAS to move this summer, surely he will.

Junior

02/02/2011, 8:50 PM

Shay could be Citys undisputed No.1 come next summer - does he still have to move?

Lets be sensible here, the opportunity to move has now gone until the summer, in the meantime Shay just needs to knuckle down, train hard and be ready and waiting to take the opportunity when it comes either through Harts poor form or injury.

If that doesnt happen then the time to re-evaluate the situation will be in May.

irishultra

02/02/2011, 8:53 PM

at 34 edwin vds was moving to united and about to enjoy probably the best years of his career, at 34 it looks like shays career is winding down :(

EastTerracer

02/02/2011, 8:54 PM

at 34 edwin vds was moving to united and about to enjoy probably the best years of his career, at 34 it looks like shays career is winding down :(

Felling a bit cranky tonight, are you? You've had a pop at Shay, Robbie Keane and Richard Dunne in the space of about 5 minutes.:rolleyes:

Charlie Darwin

02/02/2011, 8:55 PM

Felling a bit cranky tonight, are you? You've had a pop at Shay, Robbie Keane and Richard Dunne in the space of about 5 minutes.:rolleyes:
Messi is useless too. Don't even get him started on George Best...

irishultra

02/02/2011, 8:57 PM

just sayin

tetsujin1979

02/02/2011, 10:19 PM

from John Cross (Mirror journalist) twitter feed: http://twitter.com/#!/johncrossmirror/status/32937947036782592

Never seen #mcfc boss Mancini so angry. Accused Phillips of diving, his players of sleeping, said may drop Hart, just about conceded title

Read into that what you will

elroy

02/02/2011, 10:22 PM

Shay could be Citys undisputed No.1 come next summer - does he still have to move?

Do you really think that will happen though?? Shay hasnt really been given any chance so far. The only ray of light is that Hart is on a bad run of late and appears to have had another bad game tonight. If Citeh arent getting results due to inadequate defence then maybe Shay will finally be given a chance.

EDIT: Just saw first goal and you'd really expect your keeper to do alot better, just a long free kick and it more or less went the whole way in. Not commanding at all.

paul_oshea

02/02/2011, 10:25 PM

from John Cross (Mirror journalist) twitter feed: http://twitter.com/#!/johncrossmirror/status/32937947036782592

Read into that what you will

How many people do you follow on that thing? Do you get "twits" waking you up at 4.am when the phone buzzes?

tetsujin1979

02/02/2011, 10:36 PM

How many people do you follow on that thing?
200, but I'd say only about 15-20 of them update with any regularity
I don't follow that guy, Ken Early mentioned it.

Do you get "twits" waking you up at 4.am when the phone buzzes?I don't use twitter on my phone, I use the firefox add-on because I usually have that open when I'm on my laptop

Junior

03/02/2011, 9:23 AM

Do you really think that will happen though?? Shay hasnt really been given any chance so far. The only ray of light is that Hart is on a bad run of late and appears to have had another bad game tonight. If Citeh arent getting results due to inadequate defence then maybe Shay will finally be given a chance.

EDIT: Just saw first goal and you'd really expect your keeper to do alot better, just a long free kick and it more or less went the whole way in. Not commanding at all.

Its hard to tell but chances for 2nd choice keepers dont come around that often so its not that unusual that he hasnt featured much, coupled with the fact Im sure things like getting him cup tied might have been in City's mind if there was a chance he might be allowed to leave in January. As I said in the original post another few more games at this level of performance for Hart or indeed an injury and Shay has his opportunity.

OwlsFan

03/02/2011, 9:33 AM

A Manchester City goalkeeper, David Gonzalez, has gone on loan until the end of the season to Leeds. If he was third choice there wasn't much hope of Shay going any place :(

Stuttgart88

03/02/2011, 10:32 AM

Sloppy work by Hart last night. Timid and hesitant coming for a low ball across his 6 yard box. Led to a goal I think but memory is hazy - I'd had a few pints!

Drumcondra 69er

03/02/2011, 11:17 AM

Sloppy work by Hart last night. Timid and hesitant coming for a low ball across his 6 yard box. Led to a goal I think but memory is hazy - I'd had a few pints!

Definitely his fault, had a terrible game, confidence seems to be low.From the telegraph match report....

Manchester City now trail Manchester United by eight points: the title has all but slipped away.

On this evidence, it is doubtful they would deserve it anyway. Carlos Tevez got them off to the perfect start, but non-stop Birmingham pressure proved too much. Nikola Zigic equalised, and then Craig Gardner's penalty cancelled out Alexandar Kolarov's free-kick.

Micah Richards fell victim to his own bravery as he defended his area, while the less said about Joe Hart, the better. The goalkeeper's nerves were clearly contagious where his defenders were concerned.

shakermaker1982

03/02/2011, 11:58 AM

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=206619

always worth a look at fans of the team think.

dr_peepee

03/02/2011, 1:21 PM

Was cited as a Winner in the Winners & Loosers section of F365 today (Not there now Strangely enough!!)... Due a run!! The CL spot is at stake!!

Charlie Darwin

03/02/2011, 2:19 PM

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=206619

always worth a look at fans of the team think.
Not when they're Man City fans. Half of the message board types wouldn't even have known what Manchester City was a couple of years ago.

Hibs4Ever

03/02/2011, 2:39 PM

Not when they're Man City fans. Half of the message board types wouldn't even have known what Manchester City was a couple of years ago.

Similar to Shamrock Rovers so.....

Charlie Darwin

03/02/2011, 2:46 PM

Somewhat, yeah. Not sure what it has to do with Shay Given though.

irishfan86

05/02/2011, 12:26 AM

Doesn't look like Mancini has any intention of dropping Hart:

"I am happy though. I will not change because Joe Hart is the best goalkeeper."

Mancini has also played down any suggestion that Hart could be dropped for City's home date with West Brom on Saturday.

Pressed on whether he would consider drafting the more experienced Shay Given back into the fold, Mancini simply replied: "No."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_6723824,00.html

elroy

05/02/2011, 12:29 PM

A Manchester City goalkeeper, David Gonzalez, has gone on loan until the end of the season to Leeds. If he was third choice there wasn't much hope of Shay going any place :(

Stuart Taylor is their number three, used to be at Arsenal. Solid enough back up.

Doesn't look like Mancini has any intention of dropping Hart:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_6723824,00.html

FFS. Pleasing the British press again.

gastric

06/02/2011, 12:17 AM

Yesterday's Mirror mentioned Wayne Hennessey is being looked at by City. Probably just a made up story, but I feel Shay's future is away from City. If no Premier team is interested he really needs to think of going abroad. I know it is stating the bleeding obvious, but his non movement in January remains the biggest disappointment of the transfer window.

Charlie Darwin

06/02/2011, 12:25 AM

Hennessey was beaten at his near post today. I don't think he's half the goalkeeper Hart was at his age. Or Shay for that matter.

edit: Hart is actually younger than Hennessey

Stuttgart88

06/02/2011, 11:21 AM

BBC gossip column last week attributed a story to caughtoffside.com that Arsenal will pay City �7 million for Shay in the summer. I'll try and find the link later.

tricky_colour

06/02/2011, 12:13 PM

found it
http://www.sportingo.com/football/a18305_arsenal-eye-move-manchester-city-star

Arsenal will step up their attempts to finally end their long-running search for a goalkeeper by signing Manchester City shot-stopper Shay Given at the end of the season.

Republic of Ireland international Given has not featured at all for City in the Premier League this campaign and has grown tired on providing back-up to first-choice Joe Hart, who replaced Given between the sticks at the City of Manchester stadium at the beginning of this season.

And, given the outstanding form of the England No 1 so far, Given now knows that he has no future under City manager Roberto Mancini, leading the 34 year old to seek a move away from the club during last month�s transfer window.

Mancini, though, refused to sanction such a move, although he has told Given that come the summer he will be allowed to reignite his stalled career with another top-flight club, and Arsenal will need to pay �7 million to secure his services.

osarusan

06/02/2011, 4:52 PM

fo

And, given the outstanding form of the England No 1 so far, Given now knows that he has no future under City manager Roberto Mancini
Really? I'd have thought Mancini's decision to stick with Hart despite a few bad blunders would let Given know he has no future under Mancini. If Hart had been outstanding so far, Given could still hope that he'd be dropped after a mistake or 3, but he doesn't even have that hope left.

an_ceannaire

08/02/2011, 1:33 PM

i am so sick of him
look at me, i am so great i am such a professional i am mister ireland, i'm great me......
ah get lost
If McCarthy is not available he is not available, he doest need you giving him stick in public

why does he have to play every single game. We need our sub keepers to get game time too. but this media darling is on a one man selfish crusade to break the caps record on his own.