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streetscene
21/01/2009, 10:35 AM
dont douglas hall also have a team in 1st division aul????

Innishvilla
21/01/2009, 11:04 AM
dont douglas hall also have a team in 1st division aul????

They do but that's not the team in the MJC or FAI...

littleman
21/01/2009, 11:15 AM
There Msl juniors knocked Leeside out of either the Fai or Mjc.I think its the 3rd time they done it to Leeside,bogey team an all that.Na fair is fair they as junior teams in Cork are a very good side.

streetscene
21/01/2009, 12:07 PM
was at this game on sunday and have to say well done to all involved for a great result.as already said the performance was not the best but is this not the sign of a good team that wins matches when not playing to their potential. altough they were not brillant neither were they poor. for me there are two things people are forgetting.firstly this wexford team were no pushovers. they were a very organised and dogged team who deserve a lot of credit for their performance. after all there was only a penalty kick in it at the end. secondly in my opinion the syntethic pitch makes a huge difference especially if your team has flair players.the bounce of the ball is different and the pace of the game is slower. those watching the game with me on sunday all noticed the amount of free kicks and corners on both sides which failed to clear the first man. this is purely down to the kicker not been able to get his foot under the ball like he would on grass. of course i know this is the same for both sides but maybe it does explain why both varian and figo both had quite days by their own standards
as always the selection of players both on the pitch and on the bench will allow debate. for me i dont think we can question it while the lads are doing the business on the pitch. the back four for me could have been better but as littleman said they also could have got more help. brian sull did get caught for the first goal but settled down after that.was suprised with keegan at left back but he was solid throughout and used the ball well as did peelo on the right who had his hands full with their no 11.shinkwin was shinkwin so enough said there. buckley and betts will have better days in the middle. a broken nose could account for betts not being his dominant self while buckley tried hard it just wasnt happening in there. for me delea should be in there with someone a bit more direct playing off McCarthy up front.
thought the 3 subs who were brought on all made a huge impact so question marks over the bench are again un justified. o mahony in particular brought a freshness up front with his pace and his finishing was top class.credit must go to the manager for making the changes
what did impress me last sunday was the commitment shown from the cork side. they really dug in and worked hard as shown by the fact they scored their 3 goals against a very strong breeze and at times when questions were being asked of them. there seems to be a good bond amonst them judging by their celebrations at the end.(also by some of the moves they were pulling on the dancefloor of havana browns sunday night:)) but thats for another day.this should stand to them in the rest of the competition.well done to all

streetscene
21/01/2009, 12:28 PM
big fella i see your arguement about a cork team never winning the fai and you use carrick utd as an example of what we are up against but carrick were also in mjc last year when leeside won it. so i would have to disagree with you on that. admittedly it would take an exceptional cork team to do it but i for one dont think we are that poor a league. its all on the day i think. i for one honestly expect kinsale to get through to the next round and who is to know after that.down in the fort and playing well they would give any junior team a game.

BigFella 09
21/01/2009, 1:27 PM
big fella i see your arguement about a cork team never winning the fai and you use carrick utd as an example of what we are up against but carrick were also in mjc last year when leeside won it. so i would have to disagree with you on that. admittedly it would take an exceptional cork team to do it but i for one dont think we are that poor a league. its all on the day i think. i for one honestly expect kinsale to get through to the next round and who is to know after that.down in the fort and playing well they would give any junior team a game.
I know what your saying lad but you have to remember they won the fai last year an got to the last 32 of the fai senior cup.They had won the munster junior cup already an from talking to lads involved with the team it wasn't really there main aim!!,an regards to kinsale a very good side with very good players but it was nearly the same carrick side who beat them in kinsale when they hadn't been beaten at home in nearly 2 years at the time.Don't get me wrong I think cork aul is one of the most competetive leagues but just lacks something,more than likely down to msl!!!.

streetscene
21/01/2009, 1:46 PM
big fella i agree with the majority of what your saying and the msl is definetley the reason why that trophy has been absent from leeside for so long. but i also believe that if carrick played kinsale this year then you just dont know. a lot of it is on the day. a team of carricks level can always have an off day too so you have got to have belief

BigFella 09
21/01/2009, 1:56 PM
big fella i agree with the majority of what your saying and the msl is definetley the reason why that trophy has been absent from leeside for so long. but i also believe that if carrick played kinsale this year then you just dont know. a lot of it is on the day. a team of carricks level can always have an off day too so you have got to have belief
True but just to say again these teams don't have that many off days thats why they win the fai cups home or away!!!.Who do you think will win the aul this year?.

streetscene
21/01/2009, 2:11 PM
in my opinion the aul premier league is between 3 teams this year. wilton have led the way all year with kinsale breathing down their necks. for me it is one of these altough glenthorn are still involved but they have a lot of games in hand if i had to pick one i would have to go with kinsale simply cause they have been there before and have the experience.. should be close though as there is not much between the 3 sides.. who are you tipping

BigFella 09
21/01/2009, 3:10 PM
I fancy wilton if they can keep it going until the end.They're alot stronger than last year.They've brought in a few new players an look good.I can't see really any faults in the team from the back to the front two.Pakie o connor was one of the top goal scorers last season an he can't get his place just shows they've a strong side.Just be a good end to the season with kinsale an wilton left to play each other.

casilles
21/01/2009, 4:38 PM
casilles you may be confusin Anthony Peelo with Darren Galvin.Peelo play right back Sunday an is an ex Gratt,Galvin plays as outside left with us at the minute,they were both on the same minor team with us.Galvin was wanted by the Aul but declined due to work commitments,he is very highly rated an his name came up in conversation again Sunday if I'm bein honest.

Sorry now Littleman but the Gally I was on about plays with Richmond, he was defentily there as I was talking to him at half time.

On the keeper issue, Palumbo is the lad from Wilton and with out doubt is the best in the league but as Littleman said already he aint available due to the behavior of Minty and Co last year.
Oh Berba on the Paddy O regan been the best He only there cause Hurley packed up!!:D

Horse24 as always the above is just my opinion of the subs. I know your sibling quite well I would say and agree he is good enough to push for a start and is good enought to play Premier, but where im coming from is the selection of the bench. 2 left backs of which neither are able to play anywhere else and no central midfielder who can control a game ???

Big Feela my prediction for the league------- Wilton

littleman
21/01/2009, 4:44 PM
Oh Berba on the Paddy O regan been the best He only there cause Hurley packed up!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,an both of them would have only been on it because Lofty couldnt be bothered his arse playin,an aint that the truth:p

streetscene
21/01/2009, 5:51 PM
berba that fat keeper that got lobbed by brian sull that day.. is he not the same fat keeper that got the equaliser the same day;).

BigFella 09
21/01/2009, 6:46 PM
Anyone else any predictions on who's going to win the league or anything to say about any other team that has a chance?

Streetwise
21/01/2009, 8:38 PM
it seems at the moment its between 3 teams kinsale look to be the strongest of the 3 but it be good to see a new name on the cup from the usual suspects.on the subject of the a u l keeper the coachford keeper should get a mention as well.the center half kierian lucey is also a tasty
player.at the moment the oscar trainor team are doing ok we all want our own players playing and minty is doing the best with what he has.

BigFella 09
21/01/2009, 8:53 PM
Wilton have some good players who should be geting a call aswell.From what the manager has being saying he can't understand how they haven't.They got 2 players from corinthians seniors this season,a centre half and centre forward.Both have being playing outstanding with the centre forward has at least 8 goals an he missed the start of the season.Just think they should have been called this season if not next.

Horse24
21/01/2009, 10:44 PM
I was talking to a Wilton man at the AUL game, and he showed no cockiness whatsoever. He says they have 2 Grattans, a Kinsale & a Leeside left in their 6 games. He also mentioned they lost heavily to Kinsale in the first game, so they realise that nothing is done.

Looking at the table, the top four are neck and neck and even Littlemans troops come even with Kinsale if they win the games in hand. Their form may not point to a run, but, they know the road home which could stand to them. Could the trips to Dublin cost the two Dereks? The Street probably have left too much to do, but have proven they are comfortable in the top division after a sticky start.

I fancy Leeside who, if they manage to get over the Street, will exit the MJC to the Rovers and can concentrate on the league!!Seriously, the buzz of the MJC distracted them last year and second time around the buzz will be equally as good, but less intense, allowing more of an eye on the league.

Do the Premier League winners receive any more than, say the winners of a lower league?

On the AUL team, like Rafa, Trappatoni, Minty and every other manager in the world, we know better than them!! You can never be right, and hindsight is 20/20 vision.

Anyone any info/recent dealings with Dungarvan United?

BigFella 09
22/01/2009, 2:42 PM
Dungarvan wouldn't be one of the stronger teams in waterford at the moment.Don't think they ever won the league or even there abouts.Played against them a few times and are nothing special!!.

littleman
22/01/2009, 3:21 PM
Dungarvan wouldn't be one of the stronger teams in waterford at the moment.Don't think they ever won the league or even there abouts.Played against them a few times and are nothing special!!.



Jan 8, 2009
Waterford Crystal 1 - 2 Dungarvan

"We suffered our first home league defeat in nearly a year following a last gasp goal by the visitors last Sunday."

BigFella 09
22/01/2009, 4:18 PM
That would'nt say much about waterford crystal at the moment so.Haven't heard there names being mentioned in a long time in any competetions over the last few years,Dungarvan that is!!.

Horse24
22/01/2009, 9:50 PM
Thanks for the info lads. Who did you play them with, BigFella? Training going well, a squad of 19 going into the game. Thats not saying much cos our preperation for the Wilton game was absolutley crap! We have seen Dungarvan when they lost 1-0 to league leaders Tramore a fortnight ago. They will be good, but Im not sure if they will be as good as Wilton. It will be the usual underdog story - if both teams play well then Dungarvan should take it. If they arent on top of their game and we are, then who knows?

BigFella 09
22/01/2009, 10:05 PM
Not a bother lad your blackstone is it?.I played with southend united back in day.Honestly ye every chance of beating them at home.Don't get me wrong they won't be any walkover though.Best of luck to ye anyway.Do ya think matches will be on the weekend?.

Horse24
23/01/2009, 12:24 PM
Yeah, Big Fella, Im with Blackstone.

Lads, our game is on in Blarney at 4.30 tomorrow Saturday now instead

BigFella 09
23/01/2009, 12:37 PM
Best of luck fella.Just another bit of info on dungarvan they've lost 6 out of 9 games an drawn 1!!!!.Do you agree with my optimism now littleman!!!!????.

pass&move
23/01/2009, 3:40 PM
Best of luck fella.Just another bit of info on dungarvan they've lost 6 out of 9 games an drawn 1!!!!.Do you agree with my optimism now littleman!!!!????.

dungarvan will look at Blackstone the same way,played 7, lost 4 & drew 1 & that's in 1A.

Anyway best of luck horse.

littleman
23/01/2009, 4:43 PM
On second thought Big Fella,,,,,,,,,,,,No I still dont share your optimisim.

Blackstone are a very hard workin club,on an off the pitch.They are one of the few clubs in the Aul that are year in year out tryin to improve what they are doing,again both on an off the pitch an I have the utmost respect for that.I would like nothin better than to see tham progress an enjoy all the praise that comes with it.I may even take a trip out there 2moro an cheer them on as I know a few of them from way back.

But the league they(Dungarvan) are from is of a better standard than our Premier an thats a fact .Crystal an Carrick have won the Fai junior since 2004 an Villa reached the semis only 2 seasons ago.So they are goin to be handy at least.So your left in the position of would you go for a handy premier side from a better standard league or a good 1st division club from a lesser league.

Reputation means nothin,we have spent the last 2 seasons makin a mockery of so called big sides an this year had to taste some of our own medicine so I know what I'm on about.

Heart says Rovers to win,head says Dungarvan

casilles
23/01/2009, 5:14 PM
Munster Lucozade Sport Junior Cup 4th Round:
Blackstone Rovers v Dungarvan... a good effort but i hope im wrong----- away win

Murphy’s Irish Stout AOH Cup 2nd Round:
Kinsale v UCC “B” ...... Kinsale to destroy UCC could be 4 or more

League 1A:
Buttevant v Glenthorn Cel ....Buttervant win

SUNDAY 25TH JANUARY
Munster Lucozade Sport Junior Cup 4th Round:
Blarney St Ath v Leeside....Very tough 1 but the street are playing well so home win but it to be tight

Newcastle West v Coachford....they are top of the desmond 8 played 8 won so ill go for a home win

Everton v Glenthorn Cel ....Glenthorn

Murphy’s Irish Stout City Cup 2nd Round:
Grattan Utd “B” v Glenvale....Revenge?????? Glenvale win

Murphy’s Irish Stout County Cup 1st Round:
Macroom “B” v Springfield “A”.... Away win

Murphy’s Irish Stout County Cup 2nd Round:
Innishvilla v Brooklodge Utd ... Villa to advance

Springfield “B” v St John Bosco’s “A”....A Springfield double this week

casilles
23/01/2009, 5:17 PM
Horse i know Dungarvans left back and the are as apprehensive as ye are, he been asking a lot of questions but dont worry they got nothing out of me!!!! lookin forward to the game and I hope ye do the business;)

Horse24
23/01/2009, 9:10 PM
Lads, Thanks for the good wishes. Its at times like this and before our Cup Final last year that we are amazed by who is watching your progress and results.

Lots of people you wouldnt think of watching all the divisions. Texts from all over, including MSL coming in.

A big day for the club, so I hope it goes well off and on the field.

Littleman is right, all our opinions are based on heart and head.

Casilles, is that the small jersey you were talking about on the Echo?

BigFella 09
23/01/2009, 9:10 PM
littleman I know the standard of the league,I played in it for nearly 10 years.I think blackstone have every chance,they're playing at home not the easiest place to go and playing a team that have only won 2 games out of 9 of course they have a chance,what team would'nt!.
In regards to the standard between the leagues,waterford maybe stronger but not anywhere near as competetive so for me the aul is a better league.
Talking about the likes of carrick,these lads are in a league of there own.They've won that league I think 6 times in the last 7 years while wining or competing for top honors in munster and ireland.Of course we can't compete with this but any other team in the league is beatable.To be honest there's at least 3 or 4 teams in the aul who could compete in the waterford league and not look out of place.

Horse24
25/01/2009, 12:38 AM
Blackstone Rovers 0 - 3 Dungarvan Utd (Goals 25, 60, 90)

Its strange because we feel disapointment because we know we werent at our best. However, we also know that we gave them a game. We are now in a situation where we want an open draw every year, and the club has moved to another new level. It is said you have to lose one to win one.

The heavens opened as the game kicked off and it poured down for the whole game. The first twenty minutes were scrappy with a half chance and a peno shout for Blackstone. On 25 minutes, our centre half crashed into the railing and was off the field for a few minutes. A free kick was swung into our box in the meantime, and it skidded off the keeper and despite a goal line clearance, the rebound ended in the net. We had our best spell in the ten minutes before the break and had the ball in the net. Dungarvan played the trap and left three players in the box. The furthest forward was off, but it wasnt him who finished.

The second half began like the first, a bit scrappy. On the hour, another free kick found its way into the net, another goal we will be upset at conceding. Five minutes later, a meelee broke out and Blackstone were reduced to 9 men. The 9 kept going and number 3 was scored with the last kick of the game.

We received a lot of good wishes and it is great to know a spirit like that exists in local football. You would be suprised who watches the results.

littleman
25/01/2009, 2:23 PM
Well done my 4 legged friend.If ye never got this far ye never would have learned that ye are good enough to get there or go further in the future.I asked at the gate when I arrived what the score was to be told ye were loosin 1 nil,an by the time I reached the pitch I was told ye missed a sitter in a fairly open game.The 2nd half even with the sendin off wasnt one sided.Good game to watch even considerin the rain.

I watched the 2nd half an goals aside ye didnt look out of place.Experience counts for an awful lot in the open rounds an I think if a game like this came around for ye again (hopefully)next season I'd say some of the silly yellows an reds wouldnt of happened because ye would be after learnin from your mistakes.Ye battled hard in fairness but though Dungarvan might not of been of another class they were very cute about drawin some of the fouls.Not divin just cute,they could see um comin so to speak.Also when the ref gave a free for or against they didnt comment,just walked away.A lesson we can all learn from.That kept him on there side for the 50/50's.Dungarvan knew they were in a hard game,you could see that by the way they celebrated the 2nd goal,a little stuipid in there celebrations butall the same they knew ye were a good side.

You had a team full of committed players,who play 110%for the club an thats all you can ask of um,again experience is key at this stage an gettin players to keep concentration but to just slow down what they are doin would have helped a great deal.Some one who can keep lads focused but calm them down if they see the game goin a bit mad,those ones when you can see a red comin but it can be avoided by havin a word with a player,thats what was missin in a nut shell.

Fiar dues again an very well done,I bet ye can wait for next seasons cups to start to have another go an rightfully deserved it will be.

Horse24
25/01/2009, 6:39 PM
From the Oscar Traynor Thread:

Incredible result by Roscommon in beating the TSDL 3-1. Through to the semi finals for the first time ever! Well Done lads!

bogwarrior
26/01/2009, 10:04 AM
Jesus lads that's exciting. We could potentially have an oscar trainor final on our hands please god! I definately think minty et al are up to it.

Anyone know when the semi is on and where?

Gearing up to the game against nenagh on saturday. Hopefully this weather will cop it self on!

BigFella 09
27/01/2009, 12:33 PM
Is it true I read dereck McCarthy didn't get called back to the irish squad?

KrocBoy
27/01/2009, 3:43 PM
Is it true I read dereck McCarthy didn't get called back to the irish squad?

Hes in the squad for the match against the north according to the fai site anyway:)

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3941

bogwarrior
27/01/2009, 4:06 PM
Dont think so anyway. Where did u read it? I expect him to play tomorro against the north

BigFella 09
27/01/2009, 5:12 PM
read it in the star,could'nt see his name!!!

Silly Billy G
28/01/2009, 8:44 AM
Amazes me that only 2 cork lads make squad. Esp with cork teams dominating intermediate cup last few years.

Shilts
28/01/2009, 9:51 AM
Amazes me that only 2 cork lads make squad. Esp with cork teams dominating intermediate cup last few years.

The FAI Junior selection does not pick players who play in Intermediate Leagues (MSL Senior, etc). Those players are eligible to play with the FAI Amateur side. Junior players such as those who play in the Cork AUL are eligible for both teams (about half the junior internationals play for the amateur international team also). I think if a player has ever played for a League of Ireland team then he becomes ineligible for both junior and amateur sides.

Best of luck to Derek McCarthy and Derek Varian of Kinsale, they play for the FAI Junior International side V Northern Ireland tonight :ball:

BigFella 09
28/01/2009, 9:57 AM
All the players who where on the team for last season haven't been called only for one or two.It's to give new lads a chance to see will any of them be good enough.
Once the friendlies are over the majority of the team last season will be b
rought back in for the next competetion.
In regards to the intermediate cup it's junior level which is why it is called irish junior team!!!!.They were trying to change the rules last year because the standard in senior was much the same as some junior league,another thing was lads who played league of ireland could be included in friendlies but not in competetions.Don't know if it has been changed as of yet.Hope this answers your question.

BigFella 09
28/01/2009, 10:08 AM
The FAI Junior selection does not pick players who play in Intermediate Leagues (MSL Senior, etc). Those players are eligible to play with the FAI Amateur side. Junior players such as those who play in the Cork AUL are eligible for both teams (about half the junior internationals play for the amateur international team also). I think if a player has ever played for a League of Ireland team then he becomes ineligible for both junior and amateur sides.

Best of luck to Derek McCarthy and Derek Varian of Kinsale, they play for the FAI Junior International side V Northern Ireland tonight :ball:
Alright lad was a bit slow typing there,didnn't see your post.Did you here if the rules have been changed about ex league of ireland players or senior players being allowed 2 play?

Silly Billy G
28/01/2009, 10:36 AM
Alright lad was a bit slow typing there,didnn't see your post.Did you here if the rules have been changed about ex league of ireland players or senior players being allowed 2 play?


Apologies, didnt know junior team was different to amateur side.
I know no ex-LOI players allowed on amateur side.

Shilts
28/01/2009, 10:57 AM
Apologies, didnt know junior team was different to amateur side.
I know no ex-LOI players allowed on amateur side.

Sorry, I don't know the exact ruling regarding the ex LOI players. But I thought that they were not allowed to play with the junior or amateur sides - could be wrong on this one though :ball:

berba
28/01/2009, 1:22 PM
Ya that fat keeper !! good pen too
Saw second half of Blackstone game, thought they played ok against a good team from Waterford. Have some good players and if another northside team folds you can be sure they will be in to get some new recruits.
AUL facing an unknown force up in Rosscommon, but they beat a strong Tipp team so should be not taken lightly.
Good luck to Kinsale on Sat,fancy them to reach quarters.

littleman
29/01/2009, 1:52 AM
Any transfer news goin on

casilles
29/01/2009, 3:16 PM
Sat 31st January
Fai Junior Cup
Kinsale v Nenagh FC ....Kinsale to win

AOH Cup
Blackstone Rovers v Grangevale....Toughy but Home win

Blarney St Athletic v Castle Cel....Street to advance but wont be just a matter of turning up

City Challange Cup
Glenthorn Cel “B” v UCC “B”.....Glenthorn win

Premier League
Park Utd v Coachford ....Park win

Sunday 1st Febuary
AOH Cup
Killumney Utd v Glenthorn Cel “A”....Glenthorn win

Springfield “B” v Millstreet Cel ..Springfield upset

Leeside “A” v Knockavilla ... Very disputable game here. Knochavilla 2-1 up last day and it was abandoned but with home advantage this week to Leeside I still think Knockavilla to win

St Micheals Cup
Park Utd “B” v Springfield “A”..... Springfiedls double thid weekend

Premier League
Wilton Utd v Grattan Utd.... Draw

AUL League 1
Innishvilla v Douglas Hall ...Draw

pass&move
30/01/2009, 5:56 PM
Looks like the weather will be the winner again this weekend. Can't see many games going ahead.

streetscene
31/01/2009, 12:07 PM
best of luck to kinsale today.. anyone know if its on in the fort or in blarney

casilles
31/01/2009, 12:18 PM
blarney at 2pm do you not look up the cork aul site itself :mad::mad: