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stiffler
28/10/2009, 5:55 PM
Marc seems to be forming a solid parnership with Kaboul, after regaining his place in the side after injury.

http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/News/Dynamic-Duo.aspx


Could be a surprise inclusion in the play off squad.

tetsujin1979
28/10/2009, 6:36 PM
I'd be shocked if he gets a call up. The centre halves of choice are Dunne, O'Shea, St Ledger, McShane, McCarthy

carloz
28/10/2009, 7:24 PM
He should be next in line though. He has to be ahead of O'Dea anyway

Razors left peg
28/10/2009, 7:25 PM
He should be next in line though. He has to be ahead of O'Dea anyway

Why??

carloz
28/10/2009, 7:28 PM
Why??

He is playing Premiership football. He has looked capable at that level. O'Dea is playing for a brutal Reading team and couldn't break into what was an absolutly awful Celtic defence.

Razors left peg
28/10/2009, 7:36 PM
He is playing Premiership football. He has looked capable at that level. O'Dea is playing for a brutal Reading team and couldn't break into what was an absolutly awful Celtic defence.

O Dea did well anytime he played for Celtic, including in the San Siro against Milan in Champions League. Wilson might be playing Prem football but its in a team that have lost almost every game this season. To be honest I havent seen alot of Wilson but O Dea is a class defender and will be a future Ireland captain

carloz
28/10/2009, 7:45 PM
O Dea did well anytime he played for Celtic, including in the San Siro against Milan in Champions League. Wilson might be playing Prem football but its in a team that have lost almost every game this season. To be honest I havent seen alot of Wilson but O Dea is a class defender and will be a future Ireland captain

Seriously think you have the Celtic glasses on there mate. Yes he looked excellent in the two legs against AC but its the rest of his career that has me worried. McManus, Caldwell, and Naylor were all keeping him out of the team at different stages. He is not exactly setting the world alight at Reading either. Shame as i would love to see the guy be as good as you think

stiffler
28/10/2009, 7:49 PM
I think Wilson's versatility is another string to his bow which would impress Trappatoni. So far in his fledging career he has played at full back, centre back, midfield and on the wing for Portsmouth. With the transer embargo posed on the club today, this will only improve his first team chances.

I think the 4th centre back spot is up for grabs, though I do find it hard to see Trap bring new members on board at this stage.

Razors left peg
28/10/2009, 7:57 PM
Seriously think you have the Celtic glasses on there mate. Yes he looked excellent in the two legs against AC but its the rest of his career that has me worried. McManus, Caldwell, and Naylor were all keeping him out of the team at different stages. He is not exactly setting the world alight at Reading either. Shame as i would love to see the guy be as good as you think

Strachen I always thought showed an unwillingness to play young players ahead of experienced players. Before going on loan this season Celtic tied O Dea down to a new 3 year contract and he also captained the team in a league game when McManus and Cauldwell were injured.McManus and Cauldwell are both captains of Scotland so it was always going to be difficult for a youngster to dislodge one of them, but its worth noting that Cauldwell has not being offered a new contract while his current one expires at end of this season, so I fully expect O Dea to be 1st choice there come next season.As for this season, any reports Ive seen say he doing ok at Reading,but I think he is currently injured.

co. down green
28/10/2009, 8:31 PM
I think Wilson's versatility is another string to his bow which would impress Trappatoni. So far in his fledging career he has played at full back, centre back, midfield and on the wing for Portsmouth. With the transer embargo posed on the club today, this will only improve his first team chances.

I think the 4th centre back spot is up for grabs, though I do find it hard to see Trap bring new members on board at this stage.

Agree with this stiffler, Paul Hart is giving him the chance he's been after and he's doing a decent job. Useful to have a player who can switch positions during a game or fill in at other poitions.

Colbert Report
28/10/2009, 8:33 PM
Darren O'Dea belongs in League 1 from what I've seen from him so far in his career. Razor you must be on the drink or something.

Razors left peg
28/10/2009, 8:51 PM
Darren O'Dea belongs in League 1 from what I've seen from him so far in his career. Razor you must be on the drink or something.

How many times have u actually seen him to make that judgement....although after your prediction of Italy hammering us 4 nil in Croker you will forgive me if I dont pay much attention to your opinion.Ive seen him alot and I'll stand by my comments

Junior
28/10/2009, 8:59 PM
Darren O'Dea belongs in League 1 from what I've seen from him so far in his career. Razor you must be on the drink or something.

You've seen very little then.

stiffler
28/10/2009, 9:02 PM
Lads keep the chat about Darren O'Dea to the relevant thread!!

Colbert Report
28/10/2009, 9:06 PM
Listen, no disrespect, I understand that you like the guy. I was mad on Paul McShane after his debut against the Czechs three years ago and look how that turned out.

The bottom line is that O'Dea is three months short of his 23rd birthday, yet he has failed to break into the first team at any club. 23 is old to have never put a consistent run of first team matches together.

I hope you're right about him but I just don't see him making it as he's far too old already. If he was as good as you say, he would have made it already. As ridiculous as it sounds, 23 is damn old for a footballer - you only get ten to fifteen quality years in a career.

Acornvilla
28/10/2009, 9:28 PM
Listen, no disrespect, I understand that you like the guy. I was mad on Paul McShane after his debut against the Czechs three years ago and look how that turned out.

The bottom line is that O'Dea is three months short of his 23rd birthday, yet he has failed to break into the first team at any club. 23 is old to have never put a consistent run of first team matches together.

I hope you're right about him but I just don't see him making it as he's far too old already. If he was as good as you say, he would have made it already. As ridiculous as it sounds, 23 is damn old for a footballer - you only get ten to fifteen quality years in a career.

barry van gallen made his debut for the netherlands aged 34 in 2004 against andora! its never too late to realise your potential! he retired in 06 is a scout for az now the mans a legand :D

Colbert Report
28/10/2009, 9:40 PM
Yeah but come on O'Dea hasn't broken into the first team anywhere yet. Bary van Gallen was playing consistently for Haarlem in 1991 at age 21, according to wikipedia. Big difference.

Acornvilla
28/10/2009, 9:47 PM
Yeah but come on O'Dea hasn't broken into the first team anywhere yet. Bary van Gallen was playing consistently for Haarlem in 1991 at age 21, according to wikipedia. Big difference.
im not particularly on any side of this debate.
im dissapointed with how o'dea has progressed since breaking onto the scene...

i think wilson has plenty of potential as this is his second year getting a run in the team at a higher level regardles of how his team fares week in week out he is up against quality players which will stand him in good stead in the future. Probably a better long term prospect

and dutch lower devision is pure muck he became a class act playing fr az thru his own hard work and deserved his cap he was player of the season that year aswell. has a serious shot on him. anyway yea i think wilson is the better player

Paddy Garcia
28/10/2009, 10:48 PM
I'd be shocked if he gets a call up. The centre halves of choice are Dunne, O'Shea, St Ledger, McShane, McCarthy

He would /should certainly be ahead of McShane.

stiffler
22/11/2009, 3:49 PM
Live on Sky Sports now, Stoke v Portsmouth. 1st Half just over.

Commentator remarked on how solid Wilson & Kaboul have been.

Murfinator
22/11/2009, 10:45 PM
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=424&fid=203&sty=2&act=1&mid=2124018341

Posts on a pompey forum to much the same effect praising how good Wilson has been with Kaboul all season. Definitely sounds like a solid reliable option.

irishultra
22/11/2009, 10:49 PM
cool, good to see at least some promising players developing.

elroy
23/11/2009, 9:07 AM
Anyone know why he wasnt in the recent U21 squad?

tetsujin1979
23/11/2009, 9:23 AM
Anyone know why he wasnt in the recent U21 squad?
Possibly overage? He's 22

Acornvilla
23/11/2009, 4:16 PM
why dont we play a few over age players? ala milner for england until he broke into the senior team would do results and the players a world of good?

stiffler
23/11/2009, 5:06 PM
Anyone know why he wasnt in the recent U21 squad?


Marc turned 22 in August

Predator
24/11/2009, 1:35 PM
Is he looking like a prospect for the future? What is his preferred position? Centre half or Centre Mid?

co. down green
24/11/2009, 3:57 PM
Is he looking like a prospect for the future? What is his preferred position? Centre half or Centre Mid?

Has played most of the season at centre back alongside Kaboul. Has also played right back & right midfield for Pompey.

He's 22, playing regular Premiership football and can be used in a number of postitions. I think he's exactly the type of player Trap should be looking at next year.

stiffler
24/11/2009, 5:12 PM
Hopefully there will be a B international for Marc to get a run out.

Paul Hart has just been sacked as Pompey manager, so it is difficult times for the club. It will be interesting to see who the new man is to be. Hopefully Marc can impress him enough to get regular game time.

Although only 22, Marc has already played under Harry Redknapp, Tony Adams & Paul Hart at portsmouth, so he is somewhat used to change by now.

irishfan86
24/11/2009, 11:14 PM
I don't think Hart being sacked is a good thing for Wilson, but then again I said the same thing when Adams was sacked.

Hopefully he can keep his place in the side, as he could be a good option for us in the near future. We could even slot him in at right-full and have O'Shea move over to left-full.

Colbert Report
25/11/2009, 12:21 AM
I don't think Hart being sacked is a good thing for Wilson, but then again I said the same thing when Adams was sacked.

Hopefully he can keep his place in the side, as he could be a good option for us in the near future. We could even slot him in at right-full and have O'Shea move over to left-full.


For the last time, O'Shea cannot play left full back!

irishfan86
25/11/2009, 1:08 AM
For the last time, O'Shea cannot play left full back!

Have a chat with Ferguson about it. He can play anywhere across the back four.

This isn't to say he's equally good all across the back four.

I'd say he's a very good centre-back, a solid right full, and a passable left-full.

Colbert Report
25/11/2009, 3:49 AM
Have a chat with Ferguson about it. He can play anywhere across the back four.

This isn't to say he's equally good all across the back four.

I'd say he's a very good centre-back, a solid right full, and a passable left-full.

When's the last time he played left full?

irishfan86
25/11/2009, 7:59 AM
You make a fair point, but considering he broke into the Man Utd team as a left-full, to say he "isn't a left-full" doesn't seem an appropriate response.

John O'Shea is known foremost for his versatility and can be a decent left-full for us if we have strong players in other positions.

macdermesser
25/11/2009, 8:43 AM
For the last time, O'Shea cannot play left full back!

zKCwyTsScAE

noddy102
05/12/2009, 1:23 PM
75 mins into the game -v- Burnley today, and for me Wilson has been fantastic in defence.

He's looked extremely calm and composed and has made some very important blocks and tackles, especially when Portsmouth were stretched today.

Great to see it.

Brendan 82
05/12/2009, 8:49 PM
I agree, he was solid today. Some real tests coming up for him as Pompey's immediate fixture list is daunting

The Bunk
05/12/2009, 10:13 PM
I would expect Wilson to be in the squad for the European Championship qualifying campaign.

Colbert Report
06/12/2009, 12:48 AM
All three bonus points in fantasy premierleague today

Colbert Report
06/12/2009, 12:49 AM
zKCwyTsScAE

I never said John O'Shea wasn't a good, decent footballer. To call him a good or even serviceable left back is a joke. There's a reason Steve Finnan had to play left back during the Staunton era - it was to accomodate O'Shea's weak left side.

danonion
06/12/2009, 6:21 AM
I never said John O'Shea wasn't a good, decent footballer. To call him a good or even serviceable left back is a joke. There's a reason Steve Finnan had to play left back during the Staunton era - it was to accomodate O'Shea's weak left side.

I think Staunton was that reason, not O'Shea!

Stuttgart88
06/12/2009, 12:18 PM
O'Shea played central mid during most of Stan's tenure, no?

Finnan played left back because he could play there whereas Carr couldn't.

That's how I remember it anyway.

Of all of Stan's dumb decisions playing Finnan at LB wasn't the worst in my opinion.

O'Shea can play left back quite well in my opinion. He's actually very strong on his left for a right footer.

Colbert Report
06/12/2009, 12:30 PM
No no no. You people have terrible memories. Finnan never played left back when Carr was in the team - not even once. He only ever played LB when O'Shea was playing RB. Carr often started at Finnan's expense, believe it or not.

Stuttgart88
06/12/2009, 12:37 PM
Who played right back in Stuttgart, Sept 06?

Colbert Report
07/12/2009, 12:35 AM
Arne Friedrich

Colbert Report
07/12/2009, 12:36 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=197211&cc=5901

EastTerracer
07/12/2009, 1:56 AM
Finnan played left back because he could play there whereas Carr couldn't.

That's how I remember it anyway.

One of the problems though was that Finnan never looked that comfortable at left-back and when he "retired" he did say that he was frustrated at being picked there when he saw himself as purely a right-back.

If you go back to Kerr's time in charge Carr was generally preferred at left-back over Finnan as well.

co. down green
07/12/2009, 10:47 AM
Looks like wilson has a good chance of continuing to be part of the Portsmouth central defence in the future. He was well regarded by both Adams & Hart, before thier departures, and Avram Grant worked with him when he was last at Pompey.

From the Portsmouth News

As for Wilson, he thrived in the absence of Kaboul, outshining his considerably more senior defensive colleagues in the process.

Strong in the tackle, cool in possession, the 22-year-old rose to the occasion, displaying remarkable maturity.

Unquestionably, it was the Irish youngster's finest moment in a Pompey career which hopefully will be a long one.

Brought to the club by youth guru Dave Hurst as schoolboys, they have since flourished in the system.

Stuttgart88
07/12/2009, 10:07 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=197211&cc=5901You can quote the team sheet all you like but anyone who saw the game and actually took any notice of it will recall that Carr played RB, Finnan LB and O'Shea and KK played CM, with S. Reid wide right.

Apologies if that was what you were humbly trying to say.

Stuttgart88
07/12/2009, 10:10 PM
One of the problems though was that Finnan never looked that comfortable at left-back and when he "retired" he did say that he was frustrated at being picked there when he saw himself as purely a right-back.

If you go back to Kerr's time in charge Carr was generally preferred at left-back over Finnan as well.

I know, though Finnan did play a large part of one season at LB at Fulham.

I remember under Kerr when we played Croatia in a home friendly I just looked at Finnan at RB all night thinking what a thoroughbred right back he was. That was at a time when not many on foot.ie even rated him. Understated quality, just like the Toyota Avensis(?) ad. (I like to think I know more about full backs than cars).