2008 attendances

[John83]

dolers said the crowd for UCD -v- Monaghan was less than 100 cant be true can it:confused:
It was small, but not that small.

[pineapple stu]

Somewhere between 120 and (being generous) 150.

Not surprising for a Cup replay against Monaghan on a Tuesday in the middle of the Euros.

[John83]

Hmm, I'd thought a little more, but I suppose the wet seats and threat of rain had everyone under the roof.

I blame Monaghan. They only brought six fans. That's disgraceful. A club that small has no place in the league. They're holding the rest of us back. They should be kicked out forthwith.

[pineapple stu]

Let's not forget that they beat us. The league could do without clubs who can beat us.

[gufct]

there was no match on tuesday that is a shocking crowd for any club.

[monutdfc]

A certain Armagh City fan beside me estimated 150.

[Saint_Charlie]

Update after last weekend. Clubs who give official figures are in bold.


PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,298 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (missing Sligo)
Bray - 1,500 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,382 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD)
Cork - 3,661 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,589 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,925 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Harps - 2,145 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD)
Galway - 1,367 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 1,952 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882) (missing Bray)
Rovers - 1,870 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,000 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 545 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 450 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,393 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 177 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 488 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 600 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD)
Monaghan - 190 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 971 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 809 (N/A) (missing Kildare and Waterford)
Waterford - 761 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 952 (810)

Premier Division average - 2,008 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 680 (722; 570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,410 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)


I dunno if this has been done before but i've just worked out the percentage of people going to games here if we take these attendance figures as gospel. Lets say 30,000 people attend games and there are 4 million people in Ireland. Thats 0.75% of the country's population that actually attend games here :eek:

Surely that has to be one of, if not the, lowest in the western world?!

[oldyouth]

12 of my extended family are heading to the League Cup QFinal next Tuesday. Does that mean we can occupy the Home end???

[LeixlipRed]

992 at Tolka tonight.

[Mr A]

About 800 at Finn park.

[Partizan]

About 100 at Station Road tonite, about 60 from Waterford.

How the hell are Kildare still going. FFS I played Munster Junior Rugby and there were bigger crowds at that.

[gufct]

938 at Terryland says it all really.:mad:

[Dodge]

About 100 at Station Road tonite, about 60 from Waterford.

How the hell are Kildare still going
Decent budgeting?

[pineapple stu]

there was no match on tuesday that is a shocking crowd for any club.
Heard it before, troll. (http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=954501&postcount=865)

Not getting official crowds for UCD games at the moment, but about 700 was the estimate for UCD-Cork. When it started to drizzle, the bit under the roof (750) filled up with a few left outside.

[Partizan]

Decent budgeting?

I've heard of shoe-string budgets but thats taking the ****. I'd doubt they even took in 1k last night. How much do the County players get a week? Petrol money?

[Dodge]

You're saying it like its a bad thing. If they manage to survive with those crowds, good luck to them

[Partizan]

You're saying it like its a bad thing. If they manage to survive with those crowds, good luck to them

I'm not saying its a bad thing. However a club is suposed to have ambitions to progress, build, move on etc.. Kildare seem to be content to be stuck in perpetual mediocrity. Eventually someone inside the club is going to say 'to hell with it' and pack it up. Look at what happened to Kilkenny, they continued as along as they possibily could before reality caught up with them.

[SPXcyan]

isnt there plans to build a 1100 seated stand at station road??!

[holidaysong]

isnt there plans to build a 1100 seated stand at station road??!

Newbridge Town FC own the ground so it would be their decision to make I would guess.

[Saint_Charlie]

Kildare seem to be content to be stuck in perpetual mediocrity.

What would you like them to do? They can't make people go. Unfortunately...

[Dodge]

I'm not saying its a bad thing. However a club is suposed to have ambitions to progress, build, move on etc.. Kildare seem to be content to be stuck in perpetual mediocrity
I'm sure they'd love to build a better ground, and pay better players to play. But they can't afford it. Its not lack of ambition. its lack of money

And the Kilkenny thing isn't the same. They were basically just one man. Kildare have a decent sized board AFAIK

[red bellied]

Seen Harps have a good attendance record this season, wonder what the crowd for the Sligo Rovers game was giving for in Ballybofey? Is this giving as official?

[Battery Rover]

Athlone Town vs Wexford Youths official attendance 342

[dcfcsteve]

So get some rich tycoons into the league and it will succeed.

Cuz that's really works in places like Gretna..... :rolleyes:

You don't build sustainable clubs and leagues by hoovering up handouts from bored millionaires who will eventually disappear sooner or later.

[GavinZac]

Heard it before, troll. (http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=954501&postcount=865)

Not getting official crowds for UCD games at the moment, but about 700 was the estimate for UCD-Cork. When it started to drizzle, the bit under the roof (750) filled up with a few left outside.

Not a hope! It was half-full! There were swathes of empty rows.

[gufct]

I was going to say that but was afraid id upset the almighty. Saw the goals on TV3 looked like about 400 at the game although there didnt appear to any Cork fans in shot.

[pineapple stu]

You don't build sustainable clubs and leagues by hoovering up handouts from bored millionaires who will eventually disappear sooner or later.
Nope you build them by adding Linfield and hoping everything will be OK.

400 + Cork fans gives you a crowd of about 17,400, I would have thought.

I'll try get hold of the official figure anyways.

[Comic Book Guy]

Cobh v sligo, I would guess about 750 max.

[pineapple stu]

500 at Dundalk v Limerick per the Dundalk site (http://www.dundalkfc.com/MatchReports/080626_Limerick.asp).

[dcfcsteve]

Nope you build them by adding Linfield and hoping everything will be OK.

Swopping Linfied for UCD would certainly make the Eircom League more sustainable anyway......! :D

I like your idea, and would like to subscribe to your organisation. Though not if your newsletter is photocopied and includes Su Doku.... :p

[oriel]

Irish Mail reports only 1,200 at Drogs v Derry last week, more porkies down windwill (lane) rd

[Candystripe]

3,100 at Derry V Pats. 3,000 of which were very unhappy souls.

[pineapple stu]

Swopping Linfied for UCD would certainly make the Eircom League more sustainable anyway......! :D
We're perfectly sustainable, thanks.

When was the last time you saw us needing a major favour from a local politician to avoid bankruptcy?

[dcfcsteve]

We're perfectly sustainable, thanks.

When was the last time you saw us needing a major favour from a local politician to avoid bankruptcy?

Not like you to miss the point Stu...... :eek:

The league would be more susainable if a club with a positive balance sheet and a relatively large support base (both active and latent) was swopped for a club with a positive balance sheet but a fan-base that could be fitted onto a bus, with seats to spare.

I know your usual pomposity extends to believing you're a mathematical geniius (snigger), so surely you can 'do the math' on the above......

Also - an ability to call in favours from local politicians would suggest the presence of support. A luxury that some clubs struggle to fathom, I appreciate.

[pineapple stu]

Oh, so it's our fault you nearly went tits up?

My apologies. :rolleyes:

[deecay]

Cobh v sligo, I would guess about 750 max.
I would have guessed 600,30 Rovers fans

[osarusan]

The league would be more susainable if a club with a positive balance sheet and a relatively large support base (both active and latent) was swopped for a club with a positive balance sheet but a fan-base that could be fitted onto a bus, with seats to spare.

Yes indeed, the extra people (a few hundred, maybe a thousand extra) other clubs will get at one home game a season is all this league has ever needed to put ourselves in a position to dominate Europe.

[dcfcsteve]

Yes indeed, the extra people (a few hundred, maybe a thousand extra) other clubs will get at one home game a season is all this league has ever needed to put ourselves in a position to dominate Europe.

It would certainly have a noticeable impact on Limerick's average attendances anyway..... :D

[smasher]

How many do they get for every week league games?

The point is Carrick Utd is a JUNIOR club with a support base from a small town. Judging by the attendance numbers I see being bandied about here, I could not see a LOI Division side attracting such a following, even for a cup match.

[GavinZac]

The point is Carrick Utd is a JUNIOR club with a support base from a small town. Judging by the attendance numbers I see being bandied about here, I could not see a LOI Division side attracting such a following, even for a cup match.

I'm confused. You're saying a LOI side couldnt bring 2000 people to a cup final? What was the attendance at the last cup final?

[dcfcsteve]

Oh, so it's our fault you nearly went tits up?

My apologies. :rolleyes:

Look to your left, and you'll see 'the point' same way into the distance heading off down the road.

You've missed it again....

[pineapple stu]

You had a point?

Or shoud that be - You had a point? :D

[pineapple stu]

Been told UCD v Cork was 550 official. Away end must have been a lot less crowded than I thought. If only there was a way of getting rid of Cork and replacing them with, say, Linfield, they might bring a larger away support and generate more interest in the game, and we wouldn't be in the position we're in at the moment. :(

[gufct]

How do you get away wih your posts they are complete rubbish.

[GavinZac]

Been told UCD v Cork was 550 official. Away end must have been a lot less crowded than I thought. If only there was a way of getting rid of Cork and replacing them with, say, Linfield, they might bring a larger away support and generate more interest in the game, and we wouldn't be in the position we're in at the moment. :(
Away "end"? There was an away "end"? Looked like an away 'general but unenforced side of the only stand' to me. Besides, we may have only brought about 100 people but that pales in comparison to the traveling attendance in our last game at Windsor. Perhaps people just didn't particularly want to take a half day from work to see us strolling around Belfield? Perhaps UCD should advertise their charity ice-cream sales a bit better, it could have increased the numbers traveling from Cork, or indeed from across the road. Must email that idea to Noel Mooney.

[Paddyfield]

Forgot to post this last weekend;
Galway United v Drogs : official attendance 938

[gufct]

just over 400 at the Bray game about 40 Bray fair play to them.

[pineapple stu]

Update after last weekend. Clubs who give official figures are in bold.


PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,298 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (missing Sligo)
Bray - 1,500 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,303 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD)
Cork - 3,661 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,528 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,925 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Harps - 1,977 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD)
Galway - 1,313 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 1,952 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882) (missing Bray)
Rovers - 1,870 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,000 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 546 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 437 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,281 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 167 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 488 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 600 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD) (missing Waterford)
Monaghan - 185 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 974 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 809 (N/A) (missing Kildare and Waterford)
Waterford - 761 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 952 (810)

Premier Division average - 1,966 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 663 (722; 570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,376 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)

FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.

Estimates in but official figures missing -
Pat's v Bohs

Recent games missing -
Longford v Waterford

[Sam_Heggy]

The point is Carrick Utd is a JUNIOR club with a support base from a small town. Judging by the attendance numbers I see being bandied about here, I could not see a LOI Division side attracting such a following, even for a cup match.

Thats bull, there was easily 7000 maybe 8000 at the game between Harps and Derry early on in the season, there was around 4000 in the return fixture (smaller ground), Dundalk - Drogheda would fetch high numbers maybe 5000 or so, Bohs - Rovers crowds seem to be dropping yet they are still in the region of 3500 - 4000.
Last season for the final league game of the season, we had 800 fans in Kilkenny, for the play-offs in waterford we had the same if not more.

The cup final last season had much more than 2000 fans from either club.

Point is, LOI clubs have their "hard core" of fans and then the band wagon jumpers, I guarantee you if even Monaghan (no offence) were to be in the FAI Cup final, they would be fit to bring that sort of numbers. Junior clubs up here are the same, there was a crowd of around 1500 2 seasons ago for a league game between Kildrum and Fanad, 2 very small villages. If either of those sides (or any other USL side) were to make the cup final they would be able to gather up 2000 folk for it. Its the kind of country we live in.

[Candystripe]

1,800 @Derry V Bohs LC 1/4 final 1,760 of which were very happy souls.