2008 attendances

[Poor Student]

124 UCD students availed of the free entry offer. Hard to say how many of those were Drogs but it's 5-10 times larger than the amount that took up a similar offer for the Sligo game. I'm noticing a lot more new people in UCD gear than I did in Belfield Park, I don't know if it's just the well lit open layout of the Bowl or the change in location has resulted in more fans for us but I'd be confident we have at least 250 people coming to our games to support us. That's nothing to boast about but it exceeds many people's estimations on here.

[DmanDmythDledge]

124 UCD students availed of the free entry offer.
What's the offer?

[pineapple stu]

What would you reckon?

[The Lilywhites]

We're six games into the season ffs.....:rolleyes:

With any luck, you'll be in the same place come November.

[Poor Student]

What's the offer?

Free entry for UCD students.

[Paddyfield]

Free entry for UCD students.

It was first prize in a competition.
Second prize was a UCD season ticket.
Third prize was life membership.

[pineapple stu]

Fourth prize was a Galway United DVD.

[Olander]

Fifth prize was a 2 euro mushroom haircut.

[pineapple stu]

Touche...

[Kildare Lad]

About 130 at County -v- Fingal

[deecay]

About 130 at County -v- Fingal
How are ye still in existance?

[steno]

How are ye still in existance?

Simple we live within our means. Gates aren't the only source of income. Surely you would have learned this by now?, no?. County also have sponsorship and there is a five month draw in the close season. Pretty ridiculous question.

[The Rebel Ram]

about 1,300 at Ramblers v Sham Rovers i recon, didn't hear any official announcement.......
About 150 Rovers i'd say...........All perfectly well behaved at the match, plenty of flags and great noise from them too.............
Credit when it is due, they get enough stick when they do anything wrong and I know a lot of people didn't go because they wouldn't bring their kids to the game but all was well.............

[ndrog]

Impossible to tell really. Assuming everyone went in the ends they were supposed to, then I'd say about 400/300 UCD/Drogheda. But I didn't get a proper look at the stand to see how full it was and where.

im not stiring or anything but theres no way there was more ucd fans there , not a pups chance .

[deecay]

Simple we live within our means. Gates aren't the only source of income. Surely you would have learned this by now?, no?. County also have sponsorship and there is a five month draw in the close season. Pretty ridiculous question.
I forgot ye have part-time players playing for peanuts

[dcfcsteve]

Simple we live within our means. Gates aren't the only source of income. Surely you would have learned this by now?, no?. County also have sponsorship and there is a five month draw in the close season. Pretty ridiculous question.

Not a ridiculous question at all in fairness Steno.

Football is all about the crowds. A club may have sponsors and the like now, but if it's only attracting crowds of about 130 to home games then there won't be much in it commercially for those sponsors - meaning it borders onto charity donations. And that make it vulnerable to the chop at any future point.

I'm not having a go - none of our clubs have great crowds, and it is a credit to County that they can live within such limited means. But you can't blame people for wondering how a senior club can get by on such low attendances. Or how long it can continue to do so (e.g. Kilkenny City).

[pineapple stu]

im not stiring or anything but theres no way there was more ucd fans there , not a pups chance .
You think there were 350+ Drogheda fans there?

Not a pup's chance, as you say.

[pineapple stu]

about 1,300 at Ramblers v Sham Rovers i recon, didn't hear any official announcement.......
1290 mentioned as official on the Cobh forum.

[WindmillWarrior]

You think there were 350+ Drogheda fans there?
.

I would have thought there was. And before you start calling me "wrong" maybe you should read your own post again:

"But I didn't get a proper look at the stand to see how full it was and where."

[pineapple stu]

You can think all you want, and I won't call you wrong on this. But I'd be very surprised if it were the case.

There were, for example, 525 against Sligo, with about 100 visiting fans and so 400 home fans. Ditto against Derry - 622 with about 200 away fans. But you reckon, even with a promotion which was taken up by over 100 students, that there were 100 less home fans than the previous two games? Doesn't make sense.

I also saw enough of the stand to know that the near two blocks were almost all UCD, would be 350/400 (each block holds 375-ish).

[DmanDmythDledge]

I thought the covered area held 860 (at least that was the capacity of the stand before renovation).

I think there was slightly more Drogs' fans there- covered area was split even and they had a bit more on the outside.
http://www.droghedaunited.ie/photo/index/id/261

[John83]

I stand corrected so. But still believe there was no way there was less than 5,000 if Tolka holds 9,900... I've pics to show the ground was definately at least half full... (Please note- I would count heads the fact that I am not a UCD supporter is a major inhibiting factor)
It also seems to be an inhibiting factor to you correctly spelling "definitely". :rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

I thought the covered area held 860 (at least that was the capacity of the stand before renovation).

I think there was slightly more Drogs' fans there- covered area was split even and they had a bit more on the outside.
http://www.droghedaunited.ie/photo/index/id/261

738 covered.

Don't know what that photo's supposed to show. We had people in the other outside block too. In fact, you were one of them. :confused:

Anyways, petty point scoring should go in other threads.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Don't know what that photo's supposed to show. We had people in the other outside block too. In fact, you were one of them. :confused:
Not as many as that.

[Poor Student]

Not as many as that.

Hate to get bogged down in a petty debate but we had that many in our outer block at least.:confused:

[Flume]

But you reckon, even with a promotion which was taken up by over 100 students, that there were 100 less home fans than the previous two games? Doesn't make sense.


Just out of interest how do you know that offer wasn't taken up by drogheda fans? I know that if its there for the pats game i'll be takng it up as a pats fan as will others and not as a u.c.d fan.

[pineapple stu]

I don't, of course. But there were 130 who took up the offer, so I'm allowing for some Drogs in there too. I've noticed a lot more students going to games this season, most of whom seem to be supporting the home team. It doesn't affect my initial point about the general home/away split as per the signs in the ground and as noticed when the goals went in.

Worth noting that during the week, Drogheda were struggling to get a bus to the game, but now they rckon 400 travelled.

[The Rebel Ram]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rebel Ram
about 1,300 at Ramblers v Sham Rovers i recon, didn't hear any official announcement.......

1290 mentioned as official on the Cobh forum.
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Not bad at the estimating, the other 10 were probably in the loo at that time:p

[Poor Student]

I don't, of course. But there were 130 who took up the offer, so I'm allowing for some Drogs in there too. I've noticed a lot more students going to games this season, most of whom seem to be supporting the home team. It doesn't affect my initial point about the general home/away split as per the signs in the ground and as noticed when the goals went in.

As well as a lot more people in the proper club scarves I'm seeing a fair few UCD students in the official UCD scarf that's given out free at the inaugurations every year. It is very hard to quantify who the free entry UCD students came to support though. We went from 10 or 20 free UCD students from the Sligo game to 124 in the Drogs game. While I imagine the increase had something to do with some Drogs fans taking up the offer there can't have been 100 Drogheda supporting UCD students there.


Worth noting that during the week, Drogheda were struggling to get a bus to the game, but now they rckon 400 travelled.

In fairness, they clearly brought hundreds to the game.

[pineapple stu]

Haven't denied that. Just saying that they were struggling for numbers initially, but are now talking about 400+?

[WindmillWarrior]

Worth noting that during the week, Drogheda were struggling to get a bus to the game, but now they rckon 400 travelled.

Stu, Stu, Stu, will ya let it go fella. The bus you are talking about there is a bus that usally goes from a pub. The club ran 3 buses.

[pete]

Just out of interest how do you know that offer wasn't taken up by drogheda fans?

The debate is getting really stupid now. Do you realise you are suggesting Drogs fans go to college? :eek:

[Battery Rover]

Athlone vs Limerick 37 total attendance 345.

260 paid at the gate plus 85 extras including season tickets and free kids.

[oldyouth]

I hear there was under 100 at the Mons V Youths game, a little worrying

[pineapple stu]

Stu, Stu, Stu, will ya let it go fella. The bus you are talking about there is a bus that usally goes from a pub. The club ran 3 buses.
Do you specialise in missing the point?

If ye were struggling to fill a bus, even one bus which the pub normally runs, it kind of hints that, overall, the demand for the trip wasn't the greatest and so 400 is unlikely.

[WindmillWarrior]

Do you specialise in missing the point?

If ye were struggling to fill a bus, even one bus which the pub normally runs, it kind of hints that, overall, the demand for the trip wasn't the greatest and so 400 is unlikely.

The club ran 3 buses. They wouldn't usually have that many going to UCD, which kinda hints that the people that usually get the bus from the pub got the club buses instead - probably because they're better buses and the fare is usally cheaper. Most of our support would drive to Dublin games anyway.

Stu, you're not always right.

[Titan]

The split was about 360 each!. This is taken from rough figures taken by the lads selling tickets. According to the official gate there was about 15 Drogheda supporting UCD Students (I am currently studying CCTV footage in order to ensure these traitors are given the sound thrashing they deserve:)

We can argue all day about the actual definitive figure but I think the figures above are the most acurate we can get without actually asking everyone that was there!

[oriel]

I hope all this bitching between drogs and ucd fans hasn`t held up the weekly attendance table stu !

Can we move on please from this

[holidaysong]

Dundalk V Waterford approx 1,800 as per

http://www.dundalkfc.com/Matchcentre/080410_Waterford_Matchcentre.asp

I though it was a little less than this.

I would have said 1600-1700 myself.

[WindmillWarrior]

Can we move on please from this

Amen to that.

[pineapple stu]

The split was about 360 each!
Liar!!!!!! UCD have no fans; it was clearly all Drogheda. I'm not going to offer any basis for that; I'll just call you wrong.


I hope all this bitching between drogs and ucd fans hasn`t held up the weekly attendance table stu !

Don't worry; I like to leave posting an update till Monday evening at the earliest as there's always a few figures come in on Monday from people who don't have internet over the weekend.

[Dodge]

If ye were struggling to fill a bus, even one bus which the pub normally runs, it kind of hints that, overall, the demand for the trip wasn't the greatest and so 400 is unlikely.

Thats some fine logic there stu. Fine, fine logic

[pineapple stu]

Why thank you.

I'm going on this thread (http://www.irishfootienetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=10279) in general, by the way, which certainly indicates that demand for the trip wasn't the greatest and the travelling support was likely to be smaller than usual.

[Schumi]

Would that be a larger Drogheda travelling support than previously? I thought they brought that many most times over the past couple of years. I've no interest in the silly argument above, BTW, I'm just curious.

[pineapple stu]

In terms of overall crowds at previous games, they've gone from a high of 737 to a low of 450ish when they were struggling against relegation. Average has been 600-700 the last few years, so it's one of the higher crowds for the game. Read into that what you will.

[Pablo]

Nothing quite like a thread about UCD's support i bet there was actually 374 UCD fans

[oldyouth]

Nothing quite like a thread about UCD's support i bet there was actually 374 UCD fans
Plus the lad counting them, so that makes 375:)

[wonder88]

first time in ballybofey. rough guess, 1800. Dissapointing for a fine evening, and the best footballing team in the league. Great programme though. About 50 away fans.

[pete]

Even though i know this league games only if any one is interested City v Cliftonville official figure tonight is 1681.

[pineapple stu]

Update after week six. Clubs who give official figures are in bold (Cobh's are official per their forum, but only the hundreds are posted (i.e. 9xx)).

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 3,153 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (awaiting official figure for Harps; missing Bray)
Bray - 1,367 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,863 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD)
Cork - 4,158 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 4,540 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,900 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Harps - 1,844 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD) (awaiting official figure for Pat's)
Galway - 1,743 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 2,271 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882)
Rovers - 2,540 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,200 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 621 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 458 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,500 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 280 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 529 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 767 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD)
Monaghan - 158 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 1,119 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 904 (N/A)
Waterford - 837 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 1,458 (810)

Premier Division average - 2,282 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 818 (722; 570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,632 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)

FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.

Recent games missing -
Bohs v Bray
Harps v Pat's - official figure