2008 attendances

[superfrank]

It is the big derby in the First.

[Buller]

Not a bad crowd for a 1st division game and for a team just starting out.

You hardly think there were 1,200 fingal fans?
Over 80% of that crowd had to be shels...

[pineapple stu]

You hardly think that there were 1200 Shels fans? ;)

[Martinho II]

not much at our game tonight.. reckon that there was aprox 300 people at the game...

[Buller]

You hardly think that there were 1200 Shels fans? ;)

Hmmm, also a valid point... :D

[Dunny]

Mostly made up of Shels fans and Bohs schooligans..

[LeixlipRed]

More Shels fans at that game then we got at Tolka at any stage last year. Which is bizarre. Some faces I hadn't seen since 2006. Maybe they only come out for the big Dublin derbies :rolleyes:

[The Lilywhites]

Ah the clever lad, drinking McGarry's xtra strength cider over there must of had you seeing three of everything.

Seems to just be a Galway thing that. :p

[deecay]

Did Sligo announce the crowd at the game?
Small attendance I assume,Sligo would'nt have brought many as most knew they were as good as relegated

Home team usually announces the attendance

[higgins]

1,276 at Fingal-Shels

I can't see how you arrive at this figure ?
When people buy a family ticket for two adults are they counted as four ???

Was it reported before that the stand holds only 440 ?
If that's the case it was only around 3/4 full leaving 900 on the terrace!! I doubt that seen as a lot of Shels fans had made their way to the stand. It's difficult to tell standing on the terrace but didn't seem like 900 there to me.

Shels got just over 900 for a home game with Longford last week yet we're getting nearly 1000 for an away game with Sporting Fingal ???

I'm not buying that.

[KevB76]

Limerick Vs Dundalk 735

:confused: :confused: :confused:
more like 375 !

[L37Ultra]

:confused: :confused: :confused:
more like 375 !


Official attendance was 735

[KevB76]

Official attendance was 735


It didnt seem like anywhere near that many to me ( I'm usually pretty close with my guesstimates). I'll take your word for it though :)

[L37Ultra]

It didnt seem like anywhere near that many to me ( I'm usually pretty close with my guesstimates). I'll take your word for it though :)


There was more than 375 anyways , I would say.:) They said after the game it was 735. Sure there was 555 at the Wexford game and there seemed to more at the Dundalk game. Im open to correction but a reliable source told me it was 735 at full-time. Not bad considering.

[KevB76]

There was more than 375 anyways , I would say.:) They said after the game it was 735. Sure there was 555 at the Wexford game and there seemed to more at the Dundalk game. Im open to correction but a reliable source told me it was 735 at full-time. Not bad considering.

The attendances so far have been abysmal, hopefully the extra press coverage and advertising will pay off and things will improve. I'll be expecting a decent crowd for Shelbourne.

[oldyouth]

The attendances so far have been abysmal, hopefully the extra press coverage and advertising will pay off and things will improve.
I think the recent 'extra press coverage' in Limerick has been keeping the attendances down. How's that whole curfew thing working out down there?

[Raheny Red]

The attendances so far have been abysmal, hopefully the extra press coverage and advertising will pay off and things will improve. I'll be expecting a decent crowd for Shelbourne.

Obviously :cool:

[L37Ultra]

I think the recent 'extra press coverage' in Limerick has been keeping the attendances down. How's that whole curfew thing working out down there?


Its going well. It has been put back to 23:15 because we have been good for the last few weeks. But everything shuts down at that time so we cant do anything. Oh wait what time is it. I must put the piebald pony inside before the army tanks patrolling the streets crush him......:rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

380 at the UCD-Pat's League Cup game today. 400 Drogheda fans in there.

[TheFingallian]

I can't see how you arrive at this figure ?
When people buy a family ticket for two adults are they counted as four ???

Was it reported before that the stand holds only 440 ?
If that's the case it was only around 3/4 full leaving 900 on the terrace!! I doubt that seen as a lot of Shels fans had made their way to the stand. It's difficult to tell standing on the terrace but didn't seem like 900 there to me.

Shels got just over 900 for a home game with Longford last week yet we're getting nearly 1000 for an away game with Sporting Fingal ???

I'm not buying that.

The stand holds 800. The attendance figure was given out during the game and on the website.

I'd say there was about 600-700 Shels fans there, the rest being Fingal fans and neutral interested observers, but i'm new to the game so i wouldn't count on my observations.

[oldyouth]

Its going well. It has been put back to 23:15 because we have been good for the last few weeks. But everything shuts down at that time so we cant do anything. Oh wait what time is it. I must put the piebald pony inside before the army tanks patrolling the streets crush him......:rolleyes:
Well done. If everyone down there did that, the problems would be sorted in a few weeks:p

[ndrog]

380 at the UCD-Pat's League Cup game today. 400 Drogheda fans in there.

yeah a great drogheda crowd there allright .Fair play on your win :rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

Update after week seven. Clubs who give official figures are in bold.

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 3,153 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (awaiting official figure for Harps; missing Bray; going to ty find those out actually)
Bray - 1,350 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,863 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD)
Cork - 3,903 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 4,540 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,900 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554) (missing Bohs)
Harps - 1,844 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD) (awaiting official figure for Pat's)
Galway - 1,743 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 2,271 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882) (missing Cobh)
Rovers - 2,170 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,100 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 621 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 404 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,500 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 280 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 598 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 650 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD)
Monaghan - 158 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 1,119 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 997 (N/A)
Waterford - 815 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 1,298 (810)

Premier Division average - 2,235 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 797 (722; 570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,565 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)

FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.

Recent games missing -
Drogs v Bohs
Pat's v Cobh

[LeixlipRed]

The stand holds 800. The attendance figure was given out during the game and on the website.

I'd say there was about 600-700 Shels fans there, the rest being Fingal fans and neutral interested observers, but i'm new to the game so i wouldn't count on my observations.

That stand holds 800?? Are you sure about that??

[onceahoop]

Is that an official figure? DO you have any official figure for the Dundalk game? Have 1000 here.

1276 seems to be the official figure as it's quoted in the Fingal Independent who also quoted 1100 for the Dundalk game.

[Raheny Red]

1276 seems to be the official figure as it's quoted in the Fingal Independent who also quoted 1100 for the Dundalk game.

What are their write ups on the games like?

[TheFingallian]

That stand holds 800?? Are you sure about that??

Well it's what Clonliffe Harriers (http://www.clonliffeharriers.com/ch_facilities_f.html) say. Havn't counted them myself.

[Buile Shuibhne]

Sporting Fingal are publishing inaccurate 'official' attendances,

Last Friday, I proffered €24 to pay for myself and the missus. The lady in the ticket booth gave be back €4 and told me to take a family ticket which admits 2 adults + 2 kids. The steward then tore off & kept my single ticket stub.

When the stubs are counted - they count each family ticket stub as 4.

SF also sell a a single group ticket which admits between 5 to 10 adults for €50.
Do they count each of these as 10 people admitted?

There's is also a 'kids go free' ticket if accompanied by an adult. How many are counted for each of these tickets?

[pateen]

Sporting Fingal are publishing inaccurate 'official' attendances,

Last Friday, I proffered €24 to pay for myself and the missus. The lady in the ticket booth gave be back €4 and told me to take a family ticket which admits 2 adults + 2 kids. The steward then tore off & kept my single ticket stub.

When the stubs are counted - they count each family ticket stub as 4.

SF also sell a a single group ticket which admits between 5 to 10 adults for €50.
Do they count each of these as 10 people admitted?

There's is also a 'kids go free' ticket if accompanied by an adult. How many are counted for each of these tickets?

Jez that’s an interesting point.

Why do you think clubs do this, is it so the can declare increased revenue, wouldn’t that mean the tax man would demand more money at the end of the tax year.
Is it to keep the FAI happy with bigger attendances and were all led to believe the merger with the FAI is a huge success.

I would have imagined they do a count of the turnstiles 'clicks' which would be as accurate as you get but I imagine not every ground has good turnstiles.

[pete]

Why do you think clubs do this, is it so the can declare increased revenue, wouldn’t that mean the tax man would demand more money at the end of the tax year..

There would be no extra tax to declare as no VAT on tickets anyway plus they get the same money whether 3 or 4 people admitted on family ticket.

[Buile Shuibhne]

There's a PR / Marketing value to be gained from publishing inflated attendances.


There was a League Media Briefing in Abbottstown yesterday. The Irish Times has a brief report on it which includes:


Club promotions officer Noel Mooney reported that, over the first five series of games, attendances were up marginally on the same period last year at 8 per cent.


No mention if any figures were provided to back this up ?

[onceahoop]

What are their write ups on the games like?

Their coverage is good including their reports both on the sports pages and in the news section. Sometimes you've to do a bit of searching online, but I generally buy it every week. In fairness to them their local sports coverage is excellent.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/eircom-league/crawley-nicks-late-equaliser-for-dundalk-1339188.html

[pete]

I saw the piece about 8% rise in attendances. I suppose 8% over first 2 months is not enough for the FAI to make a big deal about. How does 8% tally with the official/unofficial averages on this thread? After 11 games will be in a better place to judge averages.

[higgins]

8% is not a big deal ???
If we went up by 8% each season I'd be more than happy!

[pete]

8% is not a big deal ???
If we went up by 8% each season I'd be more than happy!

Me too but it is not enough to write Press release. Hopefully with some big games in coming weeks it will rise.

[dcfcsteve]

Inflating attendances would be a short-term measure, and a daft one.

If 'official' crowds don't closely reflect the actual, people will twig - and it'll undermine the credibility of any club's future figures.

The easy solution is to do what happens in the North, and charge VAT on gate receipts..... :D

[higgins]

Inflating attendances would be a short-term measure, and a daft one.

If 'official' crowds don't closely reflect the actual, people will twig - and it'll undermine the credibility of any club's future figures.



Sure thats the way of the world now.
You lie today to get what you want and when it comes out later down the road theres too much going on for anyone to really care. Loads of politicians have been getting away with it for the last few years.

People are too busy to care.

Nobody seems to remember things for longer than 2 days in this country.

hype hype hype

[KevB76]

The 8% definitely hasnt arrived in Limerick yet. Our first couple of attendances were on a par with the last four or five games of last season (typically lowest attandances in the last games) so that does not bode well.
Our attnedance for Dundalk last week was half of last years attendance for the same fixture.
Overall we're about 50% down. Is anyone else in a similar situaution ?

[pineapple stu]

Overall we're about 50% down. Is anyone else in a similar situaution ?
We're up 10% on the same three games last year.

The figures to date show a 26% increase on last year, but obviously there's a greater percentage of derby games in there than there will be over the season (Derry v Harps, Cobh v Cork and Bohs v Rovers have all been played already), and the new season interest hasn't waned yet.

[oldyouth]

Myself and Young Oldyouth have season tickets for the Mighty Youths. At the turnstile, we just flash them like cops at a CSI Miami crime scene (no analagy needed friends). I think our 'official' attendance assumes a full turnout from season ticket holders, added to pay on the night supporters

[kevincronin2000]

4220 at city v drogs tonight, dont know how many will return

[pete]

4220 at city v drogs tonight, dont know how many will return

Just to be accurate but that is official attendance.

[Marco]

Cobh v UCD 1154 attendance

[oldyouth]

Don't have official figures yet but I'd say 600 V Longford

[DmanDmythDledge]

624 is on extratime.ie- I'd say that's official.

[Sam_Heggy]

Not far off 3000 at Finn Park tonight for that god awful excuse for a game, maybe 500 of which were Sligo fans.

[oldyouth]

626 is on extratime.ie- I'd say that's official.
Just went to have a look at that report and what a load of rubbish it is. Doesn't even mention the Longford goal, goes on to talk about Gavin Doyle having a shot in the 70th minute, us going down to 10 men 2 minutes later and then goes back to a sub Town made on 55 minutes:confused:

[gufct]

1,283 in Terryland

[The Lilywhites]

865 at Shels vs. Waterford, or something close to that. Shels fans may be able to remember the exact figure announced.

[oriel]

Not far off 3000 at Finn Park tonight for that god awful excuse for a game, maybe 500 of which were Sligo fans.

Was it really that high Sam ? Seems a very large crowd esp with the poor run Harps are currently on even taking into account 500 Sligo.

One of the tabloids this am had something like 2,185 as the attendance.