Cork AUL 2007/08

[pass&move]

Tuesday August 28th @ 7 pm,Springfield v Knockavilla Celtic, Pat O’Brien Park; (J Thompson)
Check out http://www.billylyons.blogspot.com/ for all the fixtures

[bellavistaman]

Cheers. Billy does alot of work for the A.U.L. 2 seasons ago i got the disc with alll the pictures of Springers he took. Well worth it.

[littleman]

Your right about the Marys/Grattan game,more like a battle than a friendly.Grattan have half of Nevadas and Marys are all Anglers you could see trouble happinin as soon as the Gratts got their second .

The tackle on Grattans keeper was a straight red,shockin tackle.Keeper carried off.Then same player nearly broke Shenky's leg,Ref sent him off and blew the game up with 20 mins left.Best thing he did if you ask me.

Grattan were well above Marys,I was very surprised at the way Marys played,heard good things about them previous to the game,just goes to show you should'nt belive everything you hear.:confused:

[littleman]

Best of luck Saturday Bella,even if you dont start you might come on an score the winner.Word of wisdom,if Keegan their center half has the ball at his feet he always takes the extra touch,double up on him.He's a good player but has a habit of takin to much out of the ball.Got caught at it playin for the AUL and in league games quite a few times.Who ever goes to close him down make sure theres someone fairly closeby.:p

[rebelrover]

pre season friendlies:
Everton (Senior MSL) 0 Leeside 0
Avondale (Junior MSL) 3 Leeside 4

[rebelrover]

true about Keegan in fairness, he can take too much out of it. Its something he knows himself now thou and hopefully he's addressed. Might see ya at the weekend Balla but id imagine the game has come just too soon for me.

[littleman]

2 good results for the little islanders,AUL looks to be catchin up with the MSL.:D

[bellavistaman]

Best of luck Saturday Bella,even if you dont start you might come on an score the winner.Word of wisdom,if Keegan their center half has the ball at his feet he always takes the extra touch,double up on him.He's a good player but has a habit of takin to much out of the ball.Got caught at it playin for the AUL and in league games quite a few times.Who ever goes to close him down make sure theres someone fairly closeby.:p

Cheers lads.

[rebelrover]

they're friendlies littleman!

[bellavistaman]

they're friendlies littleman!

Do you play with leeside, or affiliated to them, im a springers man, littleman take it your a grattan man are ya?

[rebelrover]

I do indeed, i played for them in 06 when we won the aoh, was in dublin a lot of last year so only played in one r two games for them but have signed on for this season. Problem is im nursing an injury n realistically wont be back training until nxt tues so missing the springers game!

[bellavistaman]

I do indeed, i played for them in 06 when we won the aoh, was in dublin a lot of last year so only played in one r two games for them but have signed on for this season. Problem is im nursing an injury n realistically wont be back training until nxt tues so missing the springers game!

Cool, best of luck hope the injury clears up soon.

Are teams taking the mossy seriously, havent been speaking to springers manager bout the cup, but i know some teams use it to "try things out"

[rebelrover]

Cheers bella

well leeside only have about 14 on their panel, so realistically they'll have last years settled team - strong in certain positions, lack creativity on the flanks to open up the opposition. Here's hoping u get your name on the scoresheet and leeside win 2-1 ;)

[bellavistaman]

Cheers bella

well leeside only have about 14 on their panel, so realistically they'll have last years settled team - strong in certain positions, lack creativity on the flanks to open up the opposition. Here's hoping u get your name on the scoresheet and leeside win 2-1 ;)

ha, we'll see. Should have some good banter on this monday so. Will you be at the match anyway?

[littleman]

Ya Bella,a true Gratt.I have every respect for people who support their own club wholeheartedly,its what makes each club so different.

On the subject of the Mossie,I'd say the managers of the respective clubs will want to have a look at their entire squads and the Mossie gives them the chance to do that with the possibility that if things go well that their might be a bit of silverware at the end of it.A bit like the League Cup in England ,with no disrespect meant to the Mossie.

If some have B or minor sides their goin to want to see what might be available to them durin the season without takin a chance on a player durin a league or big cup game .

I dont think I would read to much into any of the results this weekend,I think there will always be a few shocks but thats down more to teams tryin out different players and systems than anything else.I think you will only be able to make a realistic call on the winners of any of the leagues either til Jan or Feb or at least till teams can concentrate on the league free of cup commitments.

[bellavistaman]

Ya Bella,a true Gratt.I have every respect for people who support their own club wholeheartedly,its what makes each club so different.

On the subject of the Mossie,I'd say the managers of the respective clubs will want to have a look at their entire squads and the Mossie gives them the chance to do that with the possibility that if things go well that their might be a bit of silverware at the end of it.A bit like the League Cup in England ,with no disrespect meant to the Mossie.

If some have B or minor sides their goin to want to see what might be available to them durin the season without takin a chance on a player durin a league or big cup game .

I dont think I would read to much into any of the results this weekend,I think there will always be a few shocks but thats down more to teams tryin out different players and systems than anything else.I think you will only be able to make a realistic call on the winners of any of the leagues either til Jan or Feb or at least till teams can concentrate on the league free of cup commitments.


Agree, but thing bout aUL is squads arent that big, like rebelrover said leeside have 14 players on squad so they'll have to play a strioing side against us, but i reckon the likes of kinsale & grattan might try things out.

[littleman]

Whatever about the Gratts,we have a B side,Kinsale dont,and no minors so I think what you see from Kinsale will be what they intend their startin 11 to be for the season if everyone is fit.Kinsale will start like the clappers but will they last,Iagree with you about Leeside,14 is a recipe for trouble:confused:

[Innishvilla]

Whatever about the Gratts,we have a B side,Kinsale dont,and no minors so I think what you see from Kinsale will be what they intend their startin 11 to be for the season if everyone is fit.Kinsale will start like the clappers but will they last,Iagree with you about Leeside,14 is a recipe for trouble:confused:

I'm inclined to agree with Littleman here on Kinsale. After what was a poor season for them last year (they still finished runners-up before the relegation incident) I think Kinsale will be looking to set their stall out early...
It will be a little bit different for them now that it will be Grattan in everyones cross hairs as the big scalp of the champions...

[qwertyui]

Correct- i agree with Innishvilla on last year. People knew Grattan were good but Kinsale were the champs and they were regarded as the big scalp- even though they were winning i think the Gratts were an unknown quantity. This year the roles will be reversed. It's hard to win a title, but even harder to defend it. An interesting season beckons - with leeside's small squad i think it'll be a two horse race between Kinsale and Grattan. Depending on the attitude of both teams its hard to call..

Dont see anyone else making an impression.

Keep us informed on the weekend's results/performances anyway please guys!

[bellavistaman]

Correct- i agree with Innishvilla on last year. People knew Grattan were good but Kinsale were the champs and they were regarded as the big scalp- even though they were winning i think the Gratts were an unknown quantity. This year the roles will be reversed. It's hard to win a title, but even harder to defend it. An interesting season beckons - with leeside's small squad i think it'll be a two horse race between Kinsale and Grattan. Depending on the attitude of both teams its hard to call..

Dont see anyone else making an impression.

Keep us informed on the weekend's results/performances anyway please guys!

Would leeside seriously be the 3rd "best team" in it?
By god we really got hammered with our group of death alrite:D

[Innishvilla]

Alright lads, I'm all tingly the season starts tomorrow... Will Innishvilla fulfill their potential and win the FAI Junior Cup; will Kinsale, Grattan and Ballypheane all end up level and force a 3 way play off for the title... Will the MSL agree to merge with the AUL to create the CORK SUPERLEAGUE...

Or more likely will it p*ss rain for the next 5 months causing the season to run through until August of next year...

[littleman]

Villa utd 0 Grattan Utd 1.

Was correct in thinkin that the Gratts might try things out.The manager used only 12 players.Rested,Lofty,Shinky,PaConnors,Mark O'Sullivan,JohnPaul O'Sullivan,Goldsmith and Gally.Their all normally startin 11.Just goes to show how strong the Grattan squad is,Villa never got to grips with the Gratts.

Figo is in a class of his own ,hit the cross bar with a beauty of a free,tore the Villa apart all day and the Villa had their full back sent off for foulin him time and again.The Villa never realy caused the hard workin Grattan side any problems where as the Gratts should have made things a little bit more comfortable by takin a few more of their chances.

All told Caulfield will be quite happy to have made all those changes and still got a good performance and a win in what is always an enjoyable northside derby game,the first or 4 northside derbys in their group.

[bellavistaman]

Leeside 3 Springers 1, leeside well worth there 3 points,

[alansmithccfc]

Kilreen 2 Grattan B 1

[littleman]

What happened Bella,I was expectin a big post with 'Bella seals it with a belter'.Where did it go wrong for ye.

[thirdeye]

Villa utd 0 Grattan Utd 1.

Was correct in thinkin that the Gratts might try things out.The manager used only 12 players.Rested,Lofty,Shinky,PaConnors,Mark O'Sullivan,JohnPaul O'Sullivan,Goldsmith and Gally.Their all normally startin 11.Just goes to show how strong the Grattan squad is,Villa never got to grips with the Gratts.

Figo is in a class of his own ,hit the cross bar with a beauty of a free,tore the Villa apart all day and the Villa had their full back sent off for foulin him time and again.The Villa never realy caused the hard workin Grattan side any problems where as the Gratts should have made things a little bit more comfortable by takin a few more of their chances.

All told Caulfield will be quite happy to have made all those changes and still got a good performance and a win in what is always an enjoyable northside derby game,the first or 4 northside derbys in their group.

i know it's early but i have a feeling that kinsale mean business this year and the race will be for second place in premier.....they would appear to be a physically strong side which is worth points in this climate...you can't play football all year round in this country....i think everybody will want to beat grattan for many reasons but especially for some of the quotes being put out there from within their camp....some very strong showings by some of the newer clubs in premier over the weekend..yes it's the mossie linnane but...could be an interesting season ahead

[littleman]

Im surprised at that 3rd i,Pat Caulfied (manager) makes a point of keepin his players very grounded.He or indeed they won't be takin anythin or anyone for granted.If the players or supporters of the club after a few beers have a bit of banter it can be taken out of context.Their young lads they won the league fair and square I think no one would begrudge them that,do you.

Kinsale are physcially strong yes,as they were last year but no different to either Coachford or Leeside with regards to their physcial strenght.

If you watched the Gratts last year you would know that some of the best wins came in bad weather against physcially bigger sides.Pike would be a prime example.Pat Caulfield did'nt get manager of the year for nothin,he knows his stuff and he knows how to play against each side,big or small.

I would'nt be surprised if the bookies put Kinsale down as fav's for the league again.One way or the other it wont bother the Gratts,they will just take it one game at a time.

[Shilts]

Should be tight between Kinsale and Grattan this year. I expect Kinsale to improve but will Grattan improve much?
Remember Grattan couldn't beat a 10 man Kinsale twice last year, and this was when Kinsale were struggling.

[bellavistaman]

What happened Bella,I was expectin a big post with 'Bella seals it with a belter'.Where did it go wrong for ye.

Bella didnt play transfer didnt go through or something, ok for tuesday though. Most frustrating thing ever watching, Leeside totally deserved their win, and their bald striker caused us alot of problem, thier definitly going to be beatable.

[littleman]

No place for excuse's Shilts.Both games were there for the taken .That was last year though.I'd expect Kinsale to try harder,Leeside too.But I'd be foolish to think otherwise.Kinsale are a good side,Leeside too and even more so Ballypheane but I just think we have a better package.

Lets be honest Grattan have come from know where in the last 2 years to win the Premier A and Premier titles at a canter.I dont think its just luck that they have 2 internationals,just good players and a good team thats all.Their the first northside team since Cresent in 92 to win the Premier.Knocknaheeny is the hotbed of football in Cork so its no great surprise to me that its produced a team this good.It was always goin to happen to some team on the northside ,I'm just happy it happend to us.

[littleman]

who Ye playin Tue bella

[Towelie]

Leeside were missing 5 against springfield.The side that starts the first league game will be very different to the side yesterday.No doubt Grattan and Kinsale will still be the teams to beat.Best of luck to springers for the season ahead too.

[bellavistaman]

who Ye playin Tue bella
Knockavilla is it? The team that replaced togher anyway. and were at home again to kinsale next sunday morning, lookig forward to that one.


Leeside were missing 5 against springfield..Best of luck to springers for the season ahead too.

Seemed to be fairly much same team as last year when we lost 1 nil. Cheers anyway.

Echo said it 3-2, but it wasnt, 3-1

[littleman]

Now now Bella,ye were probably missin a few yourselves and from what I've been readin here and on the echo their B manager is in charge now. The players they were missin could have been B players brought up if you are that sure you remember the ones you played against.

Don't read to much into the Mossie,this time of the year no one has their full squad available.We are in the holiday season an will be for another couple of weeks.If ye were happy with how ye performed thats all that counts.The real stuff dose'nt start till the middle of September;)

[bellavistaman]

We had a squad of 16 and 6 were mising going to be great competition, few coming back from rams 21s so squad should strengthen hopefully in next few weeks.

[rebelrover]

couldnt make it to the game in the end bella, my brother played thou.....but didnt have much to say about the game. We were missing a good few alrite - gonz, keegan, con o leary, colin ahern, looney and kenneally were 6 starters from last year. But a good win nonetheless. Looks like the gratts and kinsale are the teams to beat alrite, could be the start of a great rivalry between the pair!! Hopefully leeside and others might have a say in it yet!

[rebelrover]

sorry brother's just told me keanneally and gonz came on, what do i know eh :rolleyes: Back training myself thurs nite so mite get a look in at the wknd Could have been 4:3 to springers if u were avaialble for selection bella :)

[littleman]

Bella the pressure is mountain.If you dont score a hat trick or make a goal line clearence or sometin special on your debut we'll all be disgusted.:D

Bella t'would be a great bang if you got someone to record you durin the game and stick it on YOUTUBE.

The Return of BELLA

[Innishvilla]

I must say reading this shows the huge advantage Prem and Prem A teams get from the Mossie... A load of people here have mentioned small squads and missing players due to holidays and other reasons (bad time of year) hence mossie is competitive but nothing lost for having a weaker side out. However lower leagues it's foot to the throttle from day 1. A few early losses and season can be over before the season has started fully...

[littleman]

2 true Innish,our A team plays basically 4 warm up games(mossie) to get their squad right before the Fai and the league games start.Our B squad will have 5 league games played by then(encludin 2 midweek of which 1 is away down in Midelton,joke).

The B season is short enough as it is without playin midweek games.18 league games,Aoh,Saxone and the City Challange.21 games if we lose in the first round.We could be finished by the end of January and thats even allowin for a few weeks of rain.Our A team only had 3 league games played at that stage last year.I dont see why they could'nt run the individual divisional competitions like they run the Mossie.

[bellavistaman]

Bella the pressure is mountain.If you dont score a hat trick or make a goal line clearence or sometin special on your debut we'll all be disgusted.:D

Bella t'would be a great bang if you got someone to record you durin the game and stick it on YOUTUBE.

The Return of BELLA

I'm retiring at the young age of 20, too much pressure. :D

[Billynose]

Am i missing something here, how come the two grattan players haven't been included in the junior squad? Did they perform badly in the last international or is this the anti cork bias roy keane speaks about :p

[littleman]

A complete joke.Thats all I can say on the matter.The only guys that played well out in the Cross for the Yankee game were Robert O'Mahony,Howey,Pa Connors and John Paul.All from Cork.

I've seen John Paul play the 2 previous junior internationals and he was excellent.Pa only played out in the Cross for 14 minutes and in that 14 mins he created the only clean cut chance the Irish team had.

Beats me how the man is able to pick a squad with only a week or 2 gone in the season.Very dissapointing.

[Shilts]

A complete joke.Thats all I can say on the matter.The only guys that played well out in the Cross for the Yankee game were Robert O'Mahony,Howey,Pa Connors and John Paul.All from Cork.

I've seen John Paul play the 2 previous junior internationals and he was excellent.Pa only played out in the Cross for 14 minutes and in that 14 mins he created the only clean cut chance the Irish team had.

Beats me how the man is able to pick a squad with only a week or 2 gone in the season.Very dissapointing.

Have to agree with you on this one littleman. However, that game in TX v USA was an amateur intnl game which is supposedly higher than the junior intnl level. Maybe they are now part of this higher level squad. Its the only answer I can think of as they were both excellent when they came on.

[littleman]

Thats what I was thinkin myself this mornin when I got the news.I hope hope your right shilts.Their both more than able to shine at that standard.Be great for the lads and the AUL if it is the case.:confused:

[bellavistaman]

Our game was abandoned after 15 mins today, wont go into the story of it, better not for a while anyway. Bella still waitin for his comeback though, was coming on at half time and all.ha.

[Innishvilla]

Our game was abandoned after 15 mins today, wont go into the story of it, better not for a while anyway. Bella still waitin for his comeback though, was coming on at half time and all.ha.

Bella, you have to tell the story... You can't leave us hanging like this???

[rebelrover]

leeside lost 2-1 - had two sent off also!

[bellavistaman]

leeside lost 2-1 - had two sent off also!

to who, kinsale or wilton?

[rebelrover]

da wilts