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BillysBoots
07/01/2008, 4:24 PM
Every single team in the MSL prem trains properly, and keeps themselves fit. The same can only be said for about 5/6 of the AUL prem teams

Therefore going Senior will improve your team at every level, it will attract better players with the right attitude to training and match days.

But having said that there are far better teams in the AUL Premier etc than certainly in the MSL 1st and 2nd Divs.

blackiegray
07/01/2008, 8:00 PM
Evening gents.
New to these parts. Just wondering what's all this crack these days with teams having games blown up early when they're getting a beating. Been on both sides of it this year.
Don't agree with it I must say. In my day, you hung on til the bitter end and took your humiliation whatever the final tally might be.
If it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger.
What do youse think?

Innishvilla
08/01/2008, 8:08 AM
Therefore going Senior will improve your team at every level, it will attract better players with the right attitude to training and match days.

But having said that there are far better teams in the AUL Premier etc than certainly in the MSL 1st and 2nd Divs.

There are a grand total of 10 teams in the munster senior league premier, yes they do all train but that doesn't mean that a high percentage of Junior teams don't train and play hard as well. I'm pretty sure the teams in any of the higher divisions (in any league) that don't train won't stay there for very long!!!

I don't know how it has happened but it looks like the annual chat about the merits and failings of the MSL and AUL is getting going again.

Yoda01
08/01/2008, 8:39 AM
having played both MSL & AUL (premier A) in my opinion the basic difference is u can't carry any players in the MSL, in the AUL if u have a core of 4 or 5 good players you can do well but in MSL u need a squad of 16 good players, they have to train twice weekly, be prepared for games and look after themselves during the week. saying that i'm sure there are 3 or 4 teams in the AUL who do this and would do ok in senior first divison.

BillysBoots
08/01/2008, 9:24 AM
having played both MSL & AUL (premier A) in my opinion the basic difference is u can't carry any players in the MSL, in the AUL if u have a core of 4 or 5 good players you can do well but in MSL u need a squad of 16 good players, they have to train twice weekly, be prepared for games and look after themselves during the week. saying that i'm sure there are 3 or 4 teams in the AUL who do this and would do ok in senior first divison.

I think the AUL and MSL should be come together, not completely but in way that if you win the Premier AUL you into the MSL 2nd Div and if you finish bottom of the MSL 2nd div you go into the AUL Premier Div.

That way all the top teams will progress and make all Divs more competitive.

le tizz
08/01/2008, 10:58 AM
this msl v aul debate is never gonna be sorted cause they rarely meet each other and the senior cup is something that each can showcase their talents, the aul champs have given a reasonable outting for themselves in the past few years, i dont think pre-season is a fair reflection of anything to be fair littleman so you're gonna be judged on 2 games- a narrow win against fermoy and being beaten by marys- both 1st division msl, as for winning the fai intermediate cup, i think we in the aul are still a bit off that yet !

the msl is trying to expand and to maintain the current high standard for pitches and facilities, something the aul could do with having a good look at ! they are def watering down the footballing standard by not taking the best aul teams, that said, across the 3 msl divisions the standard is far higher in all aspects of football and facilities, i for one would be happier playing lovely football on a decent surface every week than having to tramp around a muddy field which is too often the case in the aul !

casement are the bottom club in the senior league and i'd swap their pitch for all the pitches in the aul prem (we'd miss the view of the boats in kinsale though), they've all got decent dressing rooms and there's no such thing as having a **** on the side of the pitch

we're gonna have to move on from this, cork clubs all did well last weekend in the fai intermediate cup, many of them away from home against strong opposition, wonder how our aul clubs will do this w/e, we've got a very tough draw against michaels but a home draw gives us a fighting chance, things are heating up now, here's where you can put your money where your mouth is gentlemen, i think the semi-finalists from the fai junior go into the draw for the intermediate so there's the chance to prove everybody right or wrong.......

littleman
09/01/2008, 7:26 AM
Lads this is gettin really boring with regards the msl aul thing.Gone over an through it a thousand times.Take from what i posted what you will.I say what I see and I would not expect everyone to agree with it.

Football is a very fickle game,especially junior football and you never know if you will have the same players one year from the next but right now I know that the players we have all things being equal would be a challange to any team junior or senior team in Cork.

Saturday's Fai game is not being helped by all this rain.We are lookin forward to playin at home but just to be on the safe side we have booked Blarneys Fifa/Fai licensed all weather pitch just to be safe.Ballypheane and Richmond the same.Surprised you havnt done likewise letizz.Great bonus knowin its their but hopefully O'Neill Park will be playable.Hope its all goin well for the rest of ye

bogwarrior
09/01/2008, 11:22 AM
All weather pitch is grand as a back up but i wudnt book it just yet... arent u allowed to call the game off once if the pitch is unplayable and still retain home advantage?! Home advantage is exactly that - an advantage! If you still have the opportunity to play at home even if it means calling off the original game i'd jump at the chance!! Moving to an all weather that is new to both teams evens it up! F*ck that!!

Dunno is this still the case though? Portmarnock fla'd us a few years ago in dublin - we were winning one nil up there and the ref called it off midway thru the first half!! We had to go back up there a few week later and the beat us 3-0 i fink. Not too sure if this rule stands...

Shilts
09/01/2008, 12:02 PM
All weather pitch is grand as a back up but i wudnt book it just yet... arent u allowed to call the game off once if the pitch is unplayable and still retain home advantage?! Home advantage is exactly that - an advantage! If you still have the opportunity to play at home even if it means calling off the original game i'd jump at the chance!! Moving to an all weather that is new to both teams evens it up! F*ck that!!

Dunno is this still the case though? Portmarnock fla'd us a few years ago in dublin - we were winning one nil up there and the ref called it off midway thru the first half!! We had to go back up there a few week later and the beat us 3-0 i fink. Not too sure if this rule stands...

I think that the rule for the FAI Junior Cup is something like this:
If a game is postponed once then the venue is changed to the away teams pitch for the refixed match.
However, if the game is abandoned after starting (for whatever reason, weather, serious injury etc) then it hasn't been postponed and must be refixed for the original venue.
Some home teams (with the help of 'homer' refs) have insisted that games be started on unplayable pitches knowing that when the game would be abandoned that they would then still keep home advantage for the refixture.

I think that in the FAI intermediate Cup a game must be postponed twice before home advantage is lost.

Best of luck to all the Cork AUL teams involved in the open draw this weekend

callyno3
09/01/2008, 3:15 PM
I'd agree with you that their were well better players available to him than the Togher players but a lot of the sides who were asked for players didnt show or didnt want to play for the Oscar Traynor so he went for what he knew an to be honest they did all right.On the brewery **** up an his management style,well we'll agree to disagree as I know him on a personal level and him and Decky put an awlful lot into last years run and could and should have got a lot more support from both the clubs within the Aul and the AUL itself.
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Regarding last years selection an if forced to answer a question on it I'd say that he would tell you that of the 16 or so he had for the Dublin game .Maybe only 9 or 10 were players he asked for at the start of the competition and the rest had to be called up to make up for the ones who couldnt be bothered their arse turning up when called at the start of the competition..:ball:
Is it true littleman, that Gratts players all pulled out of AUL squad??
Hmm ;)

Silly wknd for the fixture wknd before FAI, Squad really badly run 1 or 2 training seissions since last game. No surprise that they are out

littleman
09/01/2008, 5:22 PM
Utter ****e,thats all that last statement is.Would expext that kind of statement from other threads.Even more surprised it comes from a Leeside poster.

Figo,Brian an Cans went Sunday with the Aul team.John Paul an Pa were left out because they heve only played 90 an 45 mins a peice since the Mayfield game in the 2nd round of the Fai and have only last week returned from injury.That was nearly 9 weeks ago.Dave O'Sullivan was'nt selected.

Grattan players were only delighted to represent their league.Futher more when we were made aware of the situation that the management were put in the day before the game due to withdrawls we offered more than one replacement but the management felt it would not be fair to call on those players.Remember we had 6 players on the original squad(more than anyone),they all turned up for training/games when fit, and the managment were offered more of our players if they were needed, thats how much support our club gave to Minty and the Aul.Yes we were not happy at the timing of the Oscar game but thems the joys .

We still have been let down badly by some.

callyno3
10/01/2008, 8:51 AM
Utter ****e,thats all that last statement is.Would expext that kind of statement from other threads.Even more surprised it comes from a Leeside poster.

Figo,Brian an Cans went Sunday with the Aul team.John Paul an Pa were left out because they heve only played 90 an 45 mins a peice since the Mayfield game in the 2nd round of the Fai and have only last week returned from injury.That was nearly 9 weeks ago.Dave O'Sullivan was'nt selected.

Grattan players were only delighted to represent their league.Futher more when we were made aware of the situation that the management were put in the day before the game due to withdrawls we offered more than one replacement but the management felt it would not be fair to call on those players.Remember we had 6 players on the original squad(more than anyone),they all turned up for training/games when fit, and the managment were offered more of our players if they were needed, thats how much support our club gave to Minty and the Aul.Yes we were not happy at the timing of the Oscar game but thems the joys .

We still have been let down badly by some.

Thanks For clearing that up littleman, It was asked of you cos I only heard a rumor, I was surprised when I heard that. I think there alot of withdrawls alright tho.
The main point of my thread was how badly the AUL squad was run and not a dig at you or gratts
Best of luck at wknd against Clonmel, and to all the cork teams (providing weather doesn't spoil things)

littleman
10/01/2008, 11:09 AM
Grattan Utd V Clonmel Celtic
Fai 5th round
Saturday 12th
Kick off 3pm
Blarney Fifa All weather pitch

bishbash
10/01/2008, 1:32 PM
I fear we may be on the end of a heavy result now that the game has been changed to an astro. our only hope of getting a result was on a poor pitch where we could get in around grattan now however that the pitch is on a perfect surface we could be passed off the park.

The benchwarmer
10/01/2008, 1:42 PM
I believe the Ballypheane V Ballymun United game is also switched to Blarneys pitch. 7 pm Kick off..

Is it a good quality pitch by astro standards?

le tizz
10/01/2008, 1:52 PM
its not astro lads but real grass turf enhanced by a sand base which gives it the superhuman drainage, its dry today and the bit of sunshine should help, forecast is ok for the next couple a days so pitch should hold up, still though, i'd rather have 1st go off it and not wait till 7pm and the 2nd match, any spectators should make an effort to support the local lads

besta luck to gratts & bally (sorry bishbash) should be 2 decent games

good luck to richmond & douglas hall too, hall are the only cork team away from home this w/e (galway) and by the way west are shaping up the hall will prob need all the luck they get

hopefully we get a result home against st michaels and we're all snug in the draw for the next round
corcaigh abu

Billynose
10/01/2008, 3:23 PM
Um, it's "fake grass" the same stuff that they have out in leisureworld in cork with all the black rubbery stuff that gets everywhere

bishbash
10/01/2008, 4:13 PM
there is a rumour the michaels kinsale is on there to any truth in that?

littleman
10/01/2008, 4:56 PM
Grattan Utd V Clonmel Celtic ko's @ 3pm

Ballypheane Celtic V Ballymun Utd ko's @ 7pm

Their the only 2 confirmed on Billy Lyons website to be played Saturday.

le tizz
11/01/2008, 9:50 AM
Um, it's "fake grass" the same stuff that they have out in leisureworld in cork with all the black rubbery stuff that gets everywhere

my mistake billy, plastic grass and rubber granules,
"snus should be banned from the pitch" so better give all the players instructions on sat (and "spitting is a nuisance and players should refrain") ...... this is advice from the guys who construct the pitch http://gb.pst-sport.no/index.php/service_og_vedlikehold/vedlikehold_av_kunstgressbaner/generelt
not sure if theres a whole lot of snus in blarney so should be ok with that
has anyone played out there yet ? any feedback .....

kinsale v michaels game still fixed for a watery rubber clad kinsale on saturday
we didnt have the good sense to move it to a rubber pitch but we're not really into rubber as much as other people
dry y/day and dry today so if we get a breeze blowing then the pitch at charles fort should be sound for the game, has anyone ever know there not to be a breeze up there ??

we'll be grand but thanks for the concern

littleman
11/01/2008, 10:01 AM
Tizz their is a 2 hour gap between us an Bally playin Saturday.Why dont ye try for that,an have ye tryed Mayfield.All the Msl an schoolboys matchs are off this weekend.

littleman
11/01/2008, 10:02 AM
Tizz their is a 2 hour gap between us an Bally playin Saturday.Why dont ye try for that,an have ye tryed Mayfield.All the Msl an schoolboys matchs are off this weekend.I hope im not rubbin ye up the wrong way with this info:D

Tipp Man 2
11/01/2008, 10:28 AM
Tizz their is a 2 hour gap between us an Bally playin Saturday.Why dont ye try for that,an have ye tryed Mayfield.All the Msl an schoolboys matchs are off this weekend.I hope im not rubbin ye up the wrong way with this info:D

Le Tizz, heavy wind and rain predicted for kinsale sat morning and sat afternoon, has there any alternative arrangements do you know..?? few rumours up herein TS& DL that game might be moved because of predicted weather?

Tipp Man 2
11/01/2008, 10:30 AM
my mistake billy, plastic grass and rubber granules,
"snus should be banned from the pitch" so better give all the players instructions on sat (and "spitting is a nuisance and players should refrain") ...... this is advice from the guys who construct the pitch http://gb.pst-sport.no/index.php/service_og_vedlikehold/vedlikehold_av_kunstgressbaner/generelt
not sure if theres a whole lot of snus in blarney so should be ok with that
has anyone played out there yet ? any feedback .....

kinsale v michaels game still fixed for a watery rubber clad kinsale on saturday
we didnt have the good sense to move it to a rubber pitch but we're not really into rubber as much as other people
dry y/day and dry today so if we get a breeze blowing then the pitch at charles fort should be sound for the game, has anyone ever know there not to be a breeze up there ??

we'll be grand but thanks for the concern

check out http://www.weather-forecast.com/locations/Kinsale/forecasts/latest

Billynose
11/01/2008, 10:33 AM
The pitch is very fast as you'd expect. It's a quality surface and it lends itself to ball playing sides. There is a big bounce out of the pitch as well, you're supposedly not allowed wear metal studs or blades but that's not enforced in my experience.

Word of warning, there is a concrete path surrounding the pitch. It's quite close to the touchline and it can lead to some painful incidents.

le tizz
11/01/2008, 10:38 AM
Tizz their is a 2 hour gap between us an Bally playin Saturday.Why dont ye try for that,an have ye tryed Mayfield.All the Msl an schoolboys matchs are off this weekend.I hope im not rubbin ye up the wrong way with this info:D

are ye def going to blarney then or is it just backup littleman ??
there'll be a pitch inspection at the seaside tonight but not sure if the powers that be have looked into booking an alternative, i know we've contacted mayfield but they are using theirs so thats out,
not sure if blarney is available for that 2 hour spell but prob worth a call, they prob left that window in case there's extra time and penos in yer game which would screw us if we were waiting!
are you gonna go out to see the bally game ? will try to get out for a bit of it anyway and support the cork boys on sat evening
besta luck gainst the tipp men, be good for us both to knock two tipp teams out between us

see ye in the draw for the next round !
a bit of rubbin never hurt anyone .........will resume the banter next week

le tizz
11/01/2008, 12:37 PM
Le Tizz, heavy wind and rain predicted for kinsale sat morning and sat afternoon, has there any alternative arrangements do you know..?? few rumours up herein TS& DL that game might be moved because of predicted weather?

that forecast looks accurate so far tipp. we got blue skies down here and a nice breeze blowing so pitch will be grand for 2pm kick off
we are looking into a back up pitch but not sure if its gonna be needed, its always sunny at the seaside dont ya know
i'd say we'll get away with the forecast http://www.windguru.cz/int/index.php?sc=64358
its gonna be dry with a nice wind overnight which will dry out the pitch (its already pretty good) and whatever rain is forecast aint blowing in till after 3pm
i reckon you wont even need your umbrella

is zizu coming with ye for the spin, reckon he'd be great craic to have on the journey,
is it your fond memories of kinsale that are bringing you to tears zizu or the fact that michaels knocked ye out of the cup already ??

littleman
11/01/2008, 1:40 PM
If ever their were words to regret it has to be ''and whatever rain is forecast aint blowing in till after 3pm
i reckon you wont even need your umbrella''.


Bring the feckin UMBRELLA,actually bring a second one for when the first one gets soaked right through an for the hell of it,a life jacket,a flare an a rubber ducky just to be safe.When the weather is nice its a good place to play fair dues,but.....................when it aint like every where else in Cork your on the side of a hill in the wind an rain.

When all is said an done lads let this be a good weekend for us all at home an away.

Littleman over an out.

bogwarrior
13/01/2008, 3:55 PM
Well done cork teams - absolutely terrific! Good cork showing in the last 32. There may be a winner from the rebel county yet!! Unfortunately our game was called off - the monsoon yesterday morning killed us. The pitch was grand up to 12 oclock but it was rightly called before the game.

Unfortunately we didnt have the forseight to book the Blarney pitch which i heard was good.. could you chaps give us any details on the games??

Its gonna be a tough ask to beat michaels up in their back yard and as you all now home advantage is massive. The conditions yesterday would of been perfect for a big scalp:mad:. To do any good in this comp tho you've got to beat the best and what better way to get people noticed than beating Michaels at home??

You heard it here first... Kinsale to reach the last 16!!:eek:

Innishvilla
14/01/2008, 12:52 PM
Well done to Grattan, Ballypheane and Douglas Hall. All games at this stage are tough so credit to all three for progressing... Littleman any report? Anyone at the Ballypheane game, did they concede after 4 minutes? How about a few douglas hall travellers, I know this is an AUL forum but I think we're all interested in how cork teams do in FAI and Munster Junior cups...
Le Tizz et al, do you know when the kinsale v St.M game is re-fixed for?

le tizz
14/01/2008, 1:31 PM
Well done to Grattan, Ballypheane and Douglas Hall. All games at this stage are tough so credit to all three for progressing... Littleman any report? Anyone at the Ballypheane game, did they concede after 4 minutes? How about a few douglas hall travellers, I know this is an AUL forum but I think we're all interested in how cork teams do in FAI and Munster Junior cups...
Le Tizz et al, do you know when the kinsale v St.M game is re-fixed for?

we were bitten by the weather and didnt have a plan B, so disappointing to miss the game, that said we will have a few players back who were carrying knocks and a few with flu so we should be full strength for the re-fixed game

its provisionally set for next sunday in tipp town but we're awaiting confirmation, weather forecast is poor again for the week so keep an eye on that tippman

a few of us went out to support grattan on saturday, tough conditions with all the rain but i must say i was well impressed with the setup in blarney, pitch was great, did ye have any feedback on what it was like to play on thirdeye ??

grattan were deserving winners, soft goal to take the lead in the 1st half, keeper made a bags of a shot strait at him, slipped under his body, grattan should have had a few more but went in at 1-0, clonmel changed from 5 at the back at half time and pushed forward a bit more, they are a very small team and were troubled throughout from grattan set pieces, i thought the keeper was very poor, couldnt even kick the ball ! JP up front worked his socks off and created lots of trouble for clonmel, i think clonmel set out to defend and play on the break and it kinda didnt work for them as they were overrun in midfield and didnt pose much threat up front

a deflected shot about 15 mins into the 2nd half saw clonmel equalise and they looked like up'ing their game forra while but fair dues to grattan for pluggin away and JP won them a peno with 15 to go to do enuf to take em into the next round

havent heard anything about ballyphehane but well done on a great result and same for a goal fest in galway with douglas hall getting the result of the round for cork teams

we're setting on plans for sunday so hopefully a bit of luck keeps us in with a shout of playing well and giving a fancied saints team a game

Tipp Man 2
14/01/2008, 1:31 PM
Well done to Grattan, Ballypheane and Douglas Hall. All games at this stage are tough so credit to all three for progressing... Littleman any report? Anyone at the Ballypheane game, did they concede after 4 minutes? How about a few douglas hall travellers, I know this is an AUL forum but I think we're all interested in how cork teams do in FAI and Munster Junior cups...
Le Tizz et al, do you know when the kinsale v St.M game is re-fixed for?

St Michaels v kinsale is fixed for this sunday at 2 oc clock by all accounts..

Shilts
14/01/2008, 2:30 PM
Congrats to Grattan, Ballyphehane and Douglas Hall. Great results at the weekend. 4 Cork teams in the last 32 is good going!

I really hope that Kinsale didnt arrange a plan B last weekend because of their injured players returing, and didnt want to risk playing even if it meant losing home advantage.
Otherwise it looks like a bad call not to play on one of the all-weather pitchs. Especially considering their poor record on the road down the years! :confused:
However, I have seen teams get home advantage back when the game has been postponed again, so you never know! ;)

Letizz for a raindance or two this week maybe? :cool:
Best of luck whenever its played.

bishbash
14/01/2008, 3:01 PM
i Agree 100% that grattan were the better team that was never in doubt even prior to the game but the fact that celtic were still in the game with 20 mins to go and to have it take away from them with what you have to admit was a very dubious penalty was a bitter pill to swallow. celtic went down to blarney knowing it was an uphill battle and yes whatever football that was played was played completely by the home side the fact remains that it was ultimately a dodgy call that decided it. we would have rathered been stuffed 5 nil than to go out like that.

littleman
14/01/2008, 9:05 PM
Football can be a head wrecker at times.You can dominate a game ,creat plenty of chances but only score a couple of goals.The opposition be up against it for the majority of the game an maybe only have 1 or 2 chances an take them.We played really well Saturday but credit to Clonmel they did as well.They were very defensive,5/4/1 it looked like an kept their shape very well.We knew we would have to be patient an it worked in the end.

They were decent on the counter but sitting that far back the pitch on that surface is only askin trouble against a team that plays ball.At times we ping'd the ball around and it was fantastic to watch.Not up in the air all ground ball.We loved playin on that surface an if it was'nt for the excellent Clonmel rearguard an the weather we would have made it a bit easier. Clon made agame of it credit to them,they lost but they lost well.They gave a 100% but we were in great form an not even Clonmel or the wind an rain were goin to deny us what we deserved on the day.I thought we put in a very good team performance on the day an deserved our win but i dont think the score line was a true reflection how we played or the chances we created,but its the result that counts.


Plus points the performance of the players an management.
Minus points the feckin weather.

Special thank you to Blarney FC,fantastic facilitys,great people too.

Delighted for the Ballypheane lads,great result.I love seein the Dubs loose.:D
Doughlas Hall's game must have been a cracker.:)
Richmond well done an now ye have a taste for more no doubt.;)

bishbash
14/01/2008, 9:36 PM
again as i've already stated grattan was by far the better team on the day but if you dont take your chances you have no 1 to blame but yourself, granted if a game was won by the amount of chances you created then it would have been a huge margin and also if it was a boxing match it would prob have been stopped but its not decided by either of these things. surely people can see that the pen was dubious at the very best lets put bias aside for a moment i'm a clonmel man and i'm not naive enough to say we should have won i admit 100% we were a long way the 2nd best team on the day but can you admit to have a large slice of home town decision goin your way? as i said previous it would have felt better to have gotten tanked 5 0 than to have put in the effort that was put in and to be on the end of one of the harshest decisions i've seen for a long time.

But I also accept that grattan dont appoint the referee and they are not to be blamed for the decision and I genuinely wish them all the best for the next round which they have a great chance of winning and to say see ye next year in the 5th round. this could become an annual thing :)

littleman
14/01/2008, 10:36 PM
I agree with ya on the peno decision,I've seen um give an not given .But you see Jp is very cute an he knew the ball was comin an just stood his ground.Your lad just came in over the top to quick.Jp being small an light ,sure we could see it comin even from the side lines.With regards to the ref,the less said the better.I dont think either of us were happy with the ref or the 2 doin the line.Yer man on your side looked an acted like a corpse.Cheers for the game an would have no prob headin to Bulmers country for a rematch next year.Kathy Ryans I think it was last year top spot.

thirdeye
15/01/2008, 6:19 AM
again as i've already stated grattan was by far the better team on the day but if you dont take your chances you have no 1 to blame but yourself, granted if a game was won by the amount of chances you created then it would have been a huge margin and also if it was a boxing match it would prob have been stopped but its not decided by either of these things. surely people can see that the pen was dubious at the very best lets put bias aside for a moment i'm a clonmel man and i'm not naive enough to say we should have won i admit 100% we were a long way the 2nd best team on the day but can you admit to have a large slice of home town decision goin your way? as i said previous it would have felt better to have gotten tanked 5 0 than to have put in the effort that was put in and to be on the end of one of the harshest decisions i've seen for a long time.

But I also accept that grattan dont appoint the referee and they are not to be blamed for the decision and I genuinely wish them all the best for the next round which they have a great chance of winning and to say see ye next year in the 5th round. this could become an annual thing :)


would have to agree as i'm sure would all those involved with grattan that the penalty decision was harsh and if it had gone the other way grattan would be feeling really hard done by and i know what you mean when you say you'd rather loose by a few then to a decision like that....to be honest i thought the referee was poor all day and a lot of his decisions were contentious...... celtic worked really hard and had a good 10/15 minute spell in the second half, were a credit to their club and have some good young players, the centre forward looked an accomplished player whoever he was...a srong lad with a very good first touch...

blackiegray
16/01/2008, 4:07 PM
Which Ballymun United team would it be that the Bally boys beat?
Is that their LSL Saturday Major team. ie the club second team?

littleman
16/01/2008, 8:05 PM
Mjc weekend is upon us and its Pearce Celtic away in Clashdubh Park,Toghers old pitch.Our B team are in the same 2nd division as them an the B team put up a good account of themselves despite losin 1 nil on the day in their one an only league meeting to date.We are looking forward to Saturday .Its best to just concentrate on whats in front of you ,that way we can keep grounded and focused with whoever you play from week to week.

Pearce have a fair few experienced players and in fairness do like to play ball so I'm expectin a good game.They should an will not be underestimated because for a 2nd division side to get this far they must be a decent side.A few years back they had a very good side an from what I saw on the day in the B league game they have some old experienced heads with them who will have a trick or 2 up their sleeve no doubt.Their pitch is due to be checked Friday and if its not playable the game will go ahead instead up in Mayfields all weather with a 6pm ko Saturday night instead.

The winners face a trip to Limerick to play Kilmallock who are going well in the Limerick Premier A to date.A nice prize for the winner Saturday.

Ps,letizz you have been singing the praises of all things KFC( at times to the point drivin me mad) to date,whats up.They have a big pitch yes which might not suit ye but thEy do play ball which gives ye a chance.Also its ****in rain again all week so it might not even go ahead.They dont have an all weather so it'll come back to ye,pray for rain.

Best of luck to KFC.

Tipp Man 2
17/01/2008, 7:53 AM
Mjc weekend is upon us and its Pearce Celtic away in Clashdubh Park,Toghers old pitch.Our B team are in the same 2nd division as them an the B team put up a good account of themselves despite losin 1 nil on the day in their one an only league meeting to date.We are looking forward to Saturday .Its best to just concentrate on whats in front of you ,that way we can keep grounded and focused with whoever you play from week to week.

Pearce have a fair few experienced players and in fairness do like to play ball so I'm expectin a good game.They should an will not be underestimated because for a 2nd division side to get this far they must be a decent side.A few years back they had a very good side an from what I saw on the day in the B league game they have some old experienced heads with them who will have a trick or 2 up their sleeve no doubt.Their pitch is due to be checked Friday and if its not playable the game will go ahead instead up in Mayfields all weather with a 6pm ko Saturday night instead.

The winners face a trip to Limerick to play Kilmallock who are going well in the Limerick Premier A to date.A nice prize for the winner Saturday.

Ps,letizz you have been singing the praises of all things KFC( at times to the point drivin me mad) to date,whats up.They have a big pitch yes which might not suit ye but thEy do play ball which gives ye a chance.Also its ****in rain again all week so it might not even go ahead.They dont have an all weather so it'll come back to ye,pray for rain.

Best of luck to KFC.


Cooke Park Tipp town is is great condition, surface is superb, it hasn't been played on in a month so the boys will severly test the Kinsale credentials on Sunday. I walked it last night and its perfect. It will be spiked and rolled in the coming days so have no fears the game will go ahead..

le tizz
17/01/2008, 8:02 AM
Its best to just concentrate on whats in front of you ,that way we can keep grounded and focused with whoever you play from week to week.

Ps,letizz you have been singing the praises of all things KFC( at times to the point drivin me mad) to date,whats up.They have a big pitch yes which might not suit ye but they do play ball which gives ye a chance.Also its ****in rain again all week so it might not even go ahead.They dont have an all weather so it'll come back to ye,pray for rain.

Best of luck to KFC.


you said it yourself littleman "best to concentrate on whats in front of you"
to date we've played teams that we've beaten with some ease, the only tough game we've had was against ballyphehane down in the cross and we choked and handed em an easy win, we'll try not to repeat that performance again

if i have been blowing the KFC trumpet then it has manifested itself in the results we've been putting in, like yourselves and bally, we're still in all the cups and there's a lengthening fixture list piling up for us all, we have to play hillington b from the 3rd division in the next rnd of the aoh and the winners are at home to carrigaline (div 3b) in the following round, this to me is a waste of 2 weekends, sure they may give us a game but i'm not sure about beating us with all respect to both sides

thats leaving us with extra games to play when the sunshine comes back and into the stoopid and dangerous 3 games a week on rock hard bumpy pitches (our own included), thats a recurring rant from me anyway, wonder if any of the aul suits are watching

this weekend is gonna be a big test for us, even bigger than the bally game (you belittled the mossie cup in a previous post so we're all on a par here....still a nice cup to win tho)
michaels are one of the biggest clubs in the country, i've no idea how they will fare against us, we might do well to stay with them or they could give us a good beating on their own patch, we'll have to wait n see if all 11 seasiders and subs and management step up to the plate, we're not going up there to be beaten but we know we've a mountain to climb, thats why i'm not singing from the rooftops about how great we are, i'm a realist, i see what game is in front of us and i'll make a call

you're doing pearse a great service by saying they'll give ye a good game, perhaps for an hour but they shouldnt be able to live with ye, there is a big divide between the top prem teams and the lower divisions and there is rarely any cup upsets in the aoh (and aul rounds in the mjc & fai) until the latter rounds when a lower team in good form might turn over a prem team on a given day

thats all armchair talk tho, job at hand is sunday in tipp, i dont think michaels will make the same mistake we did and lose home advantage and the waste of a weekend, the match will go ahead in tipp and we will give it one hell of a rattle, thanks for your well wishes, hopefully i can say it got us thru to the next round, will give you a heads up on monday

go out and shine against pearse, clashduv is prob under water already so i'd be confident it'll be up in mayfield, by the way is that astro like the blarney set up or is it grass ??

thats my story for the day, bring on the saints .......

le tizz
17/01/2008, 8:04 AM
Cooke Park Tipp town is is great condition, surface is superb, it hasn't been played on in a month so the boys will severly test the Kinsale credentials on Sunday. I walked it last night and its perfect. It will be spiked and rolled in the coming days so have no fears the game will go ahead..

cheers tippman, we'll be looking forward to a good game of ball on a good pitch
skiddy on top should be lovely for forwards so we might see a few goals, we'll bring some goal celebrations just in case

see ye on sunday !

pass&move
19/01/2008, 10:34 AM
Does Ballyphehane Celtic have a game this weekend? If not it's crazy for a team with only 1 league game played to have a free weekend at this stage of the season.Can't find any fixture on Billies blog.

littleman
21/01/2008, 6:24 AM
.Pearse 1 The Gratts 7.n'uf said.

Unlucky letizz.How did the match in general go, did ye have any chances or was it one to best forget.

le tizz
21/01/2008, 8:36 AM
We set up 4-5-1 on a big big pitch, superb setup in Tipp town and we were made very welcome by all the Michaels people, thanks very much

Errors cost us dearly in the game, we gifted em 2 goals- one midway thru 1st half and one at the start of the 2nd, gave em a soft peno and we had a gripe about their 2nd goal (a guy tapped it in on the line with nobody near him, couldn’t believe he wasn’t flagged for offside when the whole place could see him standing in the middle of the goal on his own, receive a deflected shot and tap it in!). 2-0 at the break then 5 mins into the 2nd half our right side was away doing their nails or something cause their midfielder had a clear run on goal and slotted in. GAME OVER 3-0, we did pull one back and played most of the football in their half in the 2nd but they’re too mean to make too many mistakes so we came away with nothing, we didn’t get 100% out of 11 players on the pitch and that cost us

think the 4-1 scoreline flattered a bit but a loss is a loss, if it was 1-0 or 10-0 we’re out and we’ll have to look at ourselves to pick it up again, still a lot of work to do to compete at that level, we may get to them again in the munster junior so we may have chance for giving a better account of ourselves, good luck to the saints in the rest of the cup, home draw in the next round will suit them again

good fai draw for ye grattan boys too, good result at the w/e well done, we’re both off to limerick in the next round next week so no mistakes !! still a lot to play for, we could all do with boats if this miserable weather keeps up, a floating pitch might be needed

some big cup games on again next w/e, good luck to bally in the FAI and everyone else from cork in the munster junior

littleman
21/01/2008, 1:06 PM
Pa Connors has been picked for the Irish Junior Squad for the game in the Isle of Man in April.

littleman
21/01/2008, 4:32 PM
We are down in the Echo to play the Mjc but we are actually playin the Fai against New Ross Celtic,Sunday the 27 with a 2pm ko time.

Shilts
22/01/2008, 9:40 AM
We are down in the Echo to play the Mjc but we are actually playin the Fai against New Ross Celtic,Sunday the 27 with a 2pm ko time.

I think New Ross Celtic beat Avondale (juniors) in an earlier round. You might get some tips from them on New Ross. I heard that they are a strong enough side.
Best of luck :)

Closing Time
22/01/2008, 10:16 AM
I think New Ross Celtic beat Avondale (juniors) in an earlier round. You might get some tips from them on New Ross. I heard that they are a strong enough side.
Best of luck :)

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